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Carol - Yes, we've tested for Landau-Kleffner Syndrome, as well as a

multitude of blood panels, EEGs, MRIs, PET scans, etc. etc. All came up with

nothing. Sometimes I watch the old videos to assure myself that I wasn't

imagining having a normal child )o:

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>Adam - My daughter, now age 5 1/2, is DEFINITELY the victim of regressive

>autism. At age 2, she had 100+ words in her vocabulary and was

exceptionally

>sociable and " normal " in every way. Between 2 and 2 1/2 she started

slipping

>away, and at age 3 she was diagnosed with autism. It's interesting that the

>psychologist who diagnosed her that it was very unusual for a child to lose

>milestones like that. We've been trying a lot of different treatments and

>methods, but she's still (sadly) very autistic.

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Hi, I'm a little behind in posts, but wanted to reply to this since I just

finished watching all the videos of my son from birth on. I haven't been

able to do it since he was diagnosed last May. It is just shocking to watch

the transformation. How can anyone watch these videos and tell us that

autism is not an acquired disease? was normal and I defy anyone to say

otherwise (I was watching them to copy them for a CAN funded study on early

detection) until two weeks after his 15 month shots (DTP) when I couldn't

get him to look at the camera. Autism experts tell me I'm very lucky because

he is so high functioning, but we have lost so much of him. He is also

gluten contaminated this week and way more out of it than usual. I just

cannot get his attention. And I found myself crying at the doctor's office

this morning as I listened to a baby crying and remembered that at the

fifteen month checkup, I sent in with his dad because I was having my

gallbladder removed and they made them wait so long that had screamed

for 30 minutes before he got his shots, and his dad just couldn't calm him

down. Probably not related to his autism and I don't want to make his dad

feel bad, but not ideal circumstances, I would have walked out of the

office. So on his good days, I think we will get him back, but as has been

mentioned already, it will bankrupt us, and put enormous stress on our whole

family, and I just hope we can make it through. I'm sorry to rant, I'm sorry

you are all going through the same mess as I am, I am very grateful that you

are all here as a tremendous source of support.

Diane in NC

(having a bad day)

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> > From: " Adam Feinstein " <LookingUp@c...>

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> > Subject: Regressive autism

> > Date: Sat, Mar 3, 2001, 6:21 pm

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> > Hello all,

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> > I am very interested in the prevalence of regressive (or

>late-onset)

> > autism, when a child seems to be progressing normally (or even ahead

>of

> > schedule) and then loses language and other skills. That, I believe,

>is what

> > happened to my son, ny.

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Diane,

I am so rigt there with ya babe and have experienced the same thing. It is enormously difficult and when you look at what they were and where they were going, it does seem such a waste. We all have our bad days and I hope yours passes quickly. Much love, in CA

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My daughter, I believe, had regressive autism. Between 15-18 months was when

she regressed. She lost her speech, quite wanting to interact and became

totally withdrawn. She started self-stimming. She also lost her ability to

eat solid foods during this time.

I think that this is the most devastating type of autism. Your child brain

is robbed of being your child, and you are left with a child who would no

longer respond to her name. I watch video tapes of my daughter when we did

the " What does the Sheep say " and she would respond " Baa " looking and smiling

at the camera. I cry everytime is watch it and think there is my beautiful

daughter. Where did all that go?

Jill

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Efalex is a combination of essential fatty acids. You can look online under

search to purchase it. Several over the counter places, drugstores,

supermarkets,etc. carry it. Good Luck!

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My son was a normal baby in every way, reached all milestones above

schedule,ie walked at 9 mths, had a vocabulary of more than 25 words at 12

mths, knew his abc's at 15 mths, etc..., had a lot of " personality " ,

laughing, singing, playing; until 22 mths when he had a series of

unexplained high fevers. This was about 3 mths after his MMR. We did not

realize at the time what was happening, as it happened very gradually. I

don't believe he lost skills, rather he stopped gaining. He kept his speech

but did not gain receptively and expressively. He became withdrawn and

uninterested in all that he loved before, I remember for his 3rd birthday I

had planned a big backyard party, had a clown come and do a magic show,

singalong, etc, and he was totally out of it. All the other kids had a blast

except the birthday boy. I remember having to " make " him blow out his

candles kicking and screaming, he had no interest whatsoever in the clown,

the cake, the presents, he just held his balloon and had this distant look

in his eyes. When I compare the photos or videos of his third year and

second year you'd think it were two different kids. I have no doubt he

would be a typical kid, if he had not been damaged by the shots and the

final blow, the MMR...

Carrol

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I just thought some of you might be interested. We recently received the hair tests of two of our NT kids. Interestingly enough, they did NOT show the high accumulations of toxins their brother did, but they both had a more extreme scatter pattern than his! So what does this mean?

Barb

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Barb:

I made the comment about being primed in the womb. I think this is where genetics comes into it. It's how environmental toxins, thimerosol exposure etc interacts with our genetic profile. I wonder about this everyday, as my NT children may one day make me a grandmother. It's a huge fear of mine that their children are more at risk. This is why I think we need research on all fronts.

Joyce

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I'm also curious about the comment that someone made about their son being " primed in the womb " . I've wondered frequently why so many of these kids seemed to make the turn at 15 to 18 months, when my son was gone at 4. Did he have a greater toxic load in his body from me? I don't have fillings, or Rh issues, but I did live overseas and received frequent injections. But so did my sister, and she has none of these issues with her daughter? Ideas?

Barb

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In a message dated 3/6/01 7:09:52 AM Pacific Standard Time,

cverasamy@... writes:

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don't believe he lost skills, rather he stopped gaining. He kept his speech

but did not gain receptively and expressively. He became withdrawn and

uninterested in all that he loved before, I remember for his 3rd birthday I

had planned a big backyard party, had a clown come and do a magic show,

singalong, etc, and he was totally out of it. All the other kids had a blast

except the birthday boy. I remember having to " make " him blow out his >>

Ditto with my son.

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Jill - I agree with you completely. I also cry when I watch videos of my

little 2 year old saying " Hello Mommy - this is fun! " . It's devastating to

have them, then to lose them. Much worse, I think, than to have a child who

is autistic from birth. It seems that the heartache doesn't go away. I only

hope that they find a cure.

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Count our son on the regressive side. All seemed fine until about 2.9-3

when his behavior and language went sideways then downhill. The ubiquitous

Thief-in-the-Night seemed to walk off with our boy. He has language and

seems to be making a recovery, but it is very slow. It's like 3 steps forward,

2 back. Like most other people here, we've tried everything (not yet chelation)

and are hoping for the best. I think, ultimately, only time will tell.

Tim

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From: "Adam Feinstein" <LookingUp@...>

autism-awareness-actionegroups

Subject: Regressive autism

Date: Sat, Mar 3, 2001, 6:21 pm

Hello all,

I am very interested in the prevalence

of regressive (or late-onset) autism, when a child seems to be progressing

normally (or even ahead of schedule) and then loses language and other

skills. That, I believe, is what happened to my son, ny.

The general consensus among the

autism experts I've talked to (including Geraldine Dawson, Ed Cook, ph

Piven) is that the assessment of the proportion of total autism cases which

is regressive has actually gone DOWN. That surprised me, but Dawson, for

instance, believes that, whereas she used to think the percentage was about

25 per cent, she has revised this in the light of the massive autism study

her team has been carrying out, and she now thinks that the figure is more

likely to be 10 per cent.

I would like to carry out my own,

very unscientific straw poll of list members who are parents of autistic

children. Which of you has a child with regressive autism? I'd be

fascinated to hear from you.

Many thanks and best wishes,

Adam Feinstein

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Us too. Tristan was a little odd as a baby, but he IS a member of MY

family.

He did make eye contact, had a couple words and would wave bye bye. When

he got the MMR he stopped progressing, then regressed after the DPT.

Like the old stories of the Fae stealing children in the middle of

the night and leaving changelings in their place. I even asked Tristan

once if he was a Pookah (the changeling faery) and he shook his head NO,

vigorously as he laughed maniacally. Hmmmmm, I think thee protest too

much. Odd thing is, he doesn't shake his head no.

He still is not verbal, but has been making gains lately. I'm looking

forward to his birthday sunday (6) as it will be the first time for him

to blow out his candles.

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Hi

I can fully understand your need to know about regression, my 1st

son was diagnosed when I was pregnant with my next, and was told that

he must have been autistic from birth - I just didn't notice! I have

videos where at 1 yr he was sitting on strangers laps having stories

read, following people around the room, and investigating new born

babies, he waved and smiled all the time. It was probably at 20-24

months when he started to lag behind his peers and he became

incredibly hyperactive.

This probably isn't much comfort to you in your present situation - I

had the same concerns and was visited by a neuro developmental

therapist on a regular basis who explicitly told me very early on

than my second son was neuro typical.

Regards

NZ

> Hello!

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> I am interested in hearing from those of you whose children

developed completely normally and then had an obvious regression.

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> I ask because my 3-yr old (almost 4!) was affected mildly from

birth. I know this looking back but didn't realize until he was

about 6 mos old that something was just a bit off, mostly with his

eye contact and social skills. He had points where he seemed to

regress more (roseola, MMR, intro of dairy in diet), but definitely

was born with subtle differences.

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> My new baby boy,(4 wks) much to my joy, already looks me

straight in the eye, gazes at me for minutes at a time, and smiles.

never made good, lasting eye contact until he was older and

wouldn't smile at people-- only toys and objects-- for the longest

time. So I sigh a sigh of relief for now, but plan on being

extremely paranoid for the next couple of years.

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> What I'd like to know is your thoughts on what could have

triggered the regression in your children. I know the immune

dysfunction is an inborn tendency, but why is it expressed at

different points for different kids/adults? And why so often between

the ages of 1 and 2 for autism? Is it a true regression or were the

signs just too subtle to recognize before that age?

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> Thanks for your input! Feel free to email privately

if you don't want to clog up the list.. beckeric@e...

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> Becky

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