Question to Andy about Cod Liver Oil

[Guest guest]

Hi Andy:

What is your opinion on autistic kids with metal poisoning taking CLO?

Have you found it necessary or lacking in our kids? Just curious, since

someone told me yesterday that they thought it would help my son. I

don't like to give supplements that aren't really needed.

Thanks!

Sharon

[Guest guest]

I believe you have to " prep " the body to be able to introduce CLO. I

think it's Vit.C, Vit. E and EFAs given in amounts appropiate for the

child's age. I can't recall the web address, which is where I got my

information, but that is where I got my info. Vicky

Arthur wrote:

>

> Leah,

> Yes, the same thing happened with my son. I tried it on two occasions

> a

> week apart. Each time he became very aggressive and disagreeable. I

> don't believe it is a fish allergy because he has had fish, including

> cod, on many other occasions with not problem. I am disappointed,

> because having read Megson's paper, our family definitely fits the

> profile (autoimmune issues abound) for the therapy to be effective.

> I'm

> wondering if the CLO needs to be balanced with some other supplement.

> .

> . .? Anybody know?

> in FL

>

> >Hi,

> >Everytime I read the good that CLO can do for our children, I get so

> frustrated because so far my son cannot take it. I've tryed it once

> and am afraid to do it again, I had him take on small gel cap and he

> was a hyer mess, that is the most I have ever seen him wind up. He

> couldn't even slow himself down. I would love to be able to give this

> supplement, I understand it is very important for our children and

> very beneficial during chelation. Has anyone else seen this reaction

> with CLO. Leah

>

>

[Guest guest]

I had trouble with CLO until I tried Nordic Natural juniors. They are small and not as potent but you know, something is better than none at all. Nordic naturals is a wonderful clean product.

[Guest guest]

Leah,

Yes, the same thing happened with my son. I tried it on two occasions a

week apart. Each time he became very aggressive and disagreeable. I

don't believe it is a fish allergy because he has had fish, including

cod, on many other occasions with not problem. I am disappointed,

because having read Megson's paper, our family definitely fits the

profile (autoimmune issues abound) for the therapy to be effective. I'm

wondering if the CLO needs to be balanced with some other supplement. .

.. .? Anybody know?

in FL

>Hi,

>Everytime I read the good that CLO can do for our children, I get so

frustrated because so far my son cannot take it. I've tryed it once

and am afraid to do it again, I had him take on small gel cap and he

was a hyer mess, that is the most I have ever seen him wind up. He

couldn't even slow himself down. I would love to be able to give this

supplement, I understand it is very important for our children and

very beneficial during chelation. Has anyone else seen this reaction

with CLO. Leah

[Guest guest]

We are using Nature's Life Lycopene to get alpha & beta carotene.

We are using Carlson Omega 3 Fish Oils from Norway - (I'm trying to

get the Norwegian Salmon Oil, but Carlson is having trouble getting

fish that aren't contaminated!) - for EPA & DHA (both were low in my

son plasma test results).

These two products have brought us much progess as well as adding

free form amino acids (many of my sons were low in his plasma test

results).

Carlson Laboratories www.Carlsonlabs.com,

Nordic Naturals www.nordicnaturals.com, and

Prevail Eskimo-3 www.prevail.com

all assay with independent labs for mercury, lead, DDT & PCBs, etc.

WholeFoods carries the Nature's Life Lycopene & Nordic Naturals

in both Adult & Pediatric, & they also carry the Prevail Eskimo-3.

Hope this helps you too,

Cathie

Austin's Mom

> Leah,

> Yes, the same thing happened with my son. I tried it on two

occasions a

> week apart. Each time he became very aggressive and disagreeable.

I

> don't believe it is a fish allergy because he has had fish,

including

> cod, on many other occasions with not problem. I am disappointed,

> because having read Megson's paper, our family definitely fits the

> profile (autoimmune issues abound) for the therapy to be effective.

I'm

> wondering if the CLO needs to be balanced with some other

supplement. .

> . .? Anybody know?

> in FL

>

> >Hi,

> >Everytime I read the good that CLO can do for our children, I get

so

> frustrated because so far my son cannot take it. I've tryed it once

> and am afraid to do it again, I had him take on small gel cap and he

> was a hyer mess, that is the most I have ever seen him wind up. He

> couldn't even slow himself down. I would love to be able to give

this

> supplement, I understand it is very important for our children and

> very beneficial during chelation. Has anyone else seen this reaction

> with CLO. Leah

[Guest guest]

<<Original message:

Message: 14

Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 20:56:13 -0500

From: " Arthur " <sea@...>

Subject: Re:Question to Andy about Cod Liver Oil

Leah,

Yes, the same thing happened with my son. I tried it on two occasions a

week apart. Each time he became very aggressive and disagreeable. I

don't believe it is a fish allergy because he has had fish, including

cod, on many other occasions with not problem. I am disappointed,

because having read Megson's paper, our family definitely fits the

profile (autoimmune issues abound) for the therapy to be effective. I'm

wondering if the CLO needs to be balanced with some other supplement. .

.. .? Anybody know?

in FL>>

I think I saw a couple of posts last week on this but didn't have time to

respond, so here are some of my thoughts and findings on this issue.

I think there may be several things involved with taking CLO, that could be

causing the problem.

One, of course would be the source- which company, and is it mercury free?

Another would be the dosage you are using and is it a balanced formula?

(i.e.: ratio of EPA and DHA) It appears that DHA, an essential fatty acid

(EFA), in fish oil, will hype you up, while EPA, another EFA in fish oil will

slow you down.

Then there is the issue of balancing the fatty acids. I think that CLO is

important, or at least some type of fish oil that also contains the right

kind of vitamin A that Dr. Megson found useful. I find her research really

fascinating. However, the fish oil needs to be in balance with other oils

containing other EFAs.

I'll copy part of the post I sent to another group on this issue here- you

may find it helpful. This is a summary of some of the information on fatty

acids that I have been able to locate.

(I sent about 20 citations and web sites on fatty acids to the other list.

There is really a whole host of research that has been done by multiple

researchers dealing with this issue and specifically in regard to fatty acid

derangements in neurological disorders. Kay stammers has several posted on

her website that you may find interesting. I will send the list if you guys

want it, but it is quite long, so I won't do it here.)

Ruth

PS Good sources of Omega 6 fatty acids include: Evening Primrose Oil and cold

pressed Sunflower or Safflower oil- not the grocery store variety that is

hydrogenated.

Here is part of my other post:

<<I think that a lot of people don't really understand the fatty acid issue.

I've done a fair amount of reading, so bear with me here.

In our current modern day America we don't eat much fish, so we are very

depleted in Omega 3 oils (fish is the primary source, but also found in soy

and flax).

However, we eat a diet high in fried foods- canola oil (basically from

several web sites I've seen, it looks like it does some pretty nasty stuff,

as well as causing a build up of long chain fatty acids), and hydrogenated

vegetable oils- which are basically inactivated fatty acids, so we aren't

getting the Omega 6's either. Hydrogenated oils (trans fatty acids) are

manmade (they are vegetable oils that have been hydrogenated under pressure,

bleached and flavored) to extend shelf life and taste. They are extremely

damaging to metabolic function (they act like plastic inside cell membranes).

Since some of these fats start out as corn or other oils that in their

original state would provide us with Omega 6 oils, some clinicians are

misunderstanding the problem, not recognizing that we are also depleted in

Omega 6's.

To further compound the issue, until fairly recently, it was thought that

Omega 6 to Omega 3 ratio should be 1:1. It is now known that it really should

be 4:1. This is the work of Dr. Shloma Yahuda from Israel. Dr. Yahuda

presented this at the NIH meeting in September 98.

The Omega 3's and Omega 6's are in competition with each other in our bodies,

too much of one drives down the other one. So too much fish oil depletes the

Omega 6 group of fatty acids.

The Omega 3's and 6's help with natural Prostaglandin formation. Prosta

glandin 1 has to do with anti-inflammatory responses and thinning of the

blood (a good source for this would be GLA from Evening Primrose oil).

Prostaglandin 2 has to do with swelling and inflammation, inducing birth,

regulating temperature, lowering blood pressure, and regulation of platelet

aggregation and clotting. (The primary source for this is Arachidonic acid in

meat and dairy fats, but too much may stimulate the inflammation and

autoimmune problems we see in our kids). Prostaglandin 3's work to attenuate

excessive Series 2 production. Adequate production of the Series 3

prostaglandins seems to protect against heart attack and stroke as well as

certain inflammatory diseases like arthritis, lupus and asthma (these are

formed from EPA in fish oil). So, as you can see, it is important to have

both Omega 3 and Omega 6 fatty acids in the diet, and we need to be careful

to have them in the proper amounts.

I found this excerpt from an online site on fatty acids and prostaglandin

formation: " The excessive use of commercial vegetable oils interferes with

the production of prostaglandins, leading to an array of complaints ranging

from autoimmune disease to premenstrual syndrome (PMS). Disruption of

prostaglandin production leads to an increased tendency to form blood clots,

and hence to myocardial infarction - which has reached epidemic levels in the

US. Vegetable oils are more toxic when heated. One study reported that

polyunsaturates turn to varnish in the intestines. "

Then, there is also evidence that a lot of our ASD kids have a build up of

VERY long chain fatty acids, so canola oil, peanut oil and peanut butter and

mustard can cause further neurological problems for our kids.>>

[Guest guest]

Be careful with the evening primrose oil if seizures are a factor! Look on the speech diet at chat for TONS of information on the LC and just DHA in general. it is a site that discusses the use of fish oil for those with ADD/ SID/ Apraxia. for those that have children that have trouble with speech. you will see many parents that are describing autistic type behaviors that probably don't have a diagnosis or their children aren't severe enough to be considered autistic. Basically you will find reference to the fish oil being the necessary way to receive benefits from the DHA and they discuss why, which has something to do with the bodies inability to do the conversion thru the essential fatty acid process. I have studied this subject a lot and have good information but am hurried right now. Also they allude to the fact that the deep sea marine life oils are geared more for the children with apraxia, dyslexia, chronic fatigue, ADD, ADHD and that the cod liver oil is more for the autism spectrum and you can read why. there is one woman that discusses the risk of evening primrose oil and seizures very frankly so it is something to consider. They recommend borage oil. This is found in many supplements such as vitamins. And unless you are on a good multi vitamin it will probably have a difficult time getting everything to work well. I have found Nordic naturals to be the cleanest product out there as far as mercury with the fish oil. They offer a great deal of things. it will only be offered in a capsule that is oil filled as that is what it is; oil. The taste of these is the best out there as they mask it with a strawberry flavor. Man, you need that with fish oil, trust me. The only thing I can do is squeeze the capsule into orange juice but she takes it no problem. I have gotten greedy at times and tried to increase the dosage but it never works in the positive for me when I do this. I give my daughter one of the DHA juniors which is from COD and one of the DHA ultimate omega which is all DHA. You really probably don't need to worry about balancing with an omega 6 as you get plenty of it from other things, like margarine and any type of hydrogenated oil. Olive oil is the best oil to use. We saw an improvement in my daughters so called eczema when we started it then i added brainchild nutrionals multi vitamin because it has a great number of things that are necessary in the autism spectrum. they also have an ALA product that is good. the vitamins are in the form of a liquid and taste good. easy to disguise in juice. you can email me privately for more info if you want, have to go to work which is why I am hurrying

[Guest guest]

Thanks for sharing that. I have two quwstions. You also mentioned

the build up of long chain fatty acids. Will balancing the omegas

correctly handle this? And if so, how do you properly balance them?

I know the ratio is 4:1. But some of the intake is dietary. We only

use olive oil sparingly and some snacks have cold expeller pressed

safflower oil. So is there a formula which takes dietary intake into

account and then recommends dosage of 3's to 6's?

Thanks,

N.

> <<Original message:

> Message: 14

>

> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 20:56:13 -0500

>

> From: " Arthur " <sea@i...>

>

> Subject: Re:Question to Andy about Cod Liver Oil

>

>

> Leah,

>

> Yes, the same thing happened with my son. I tried it on two

occasions a

>

> week apart. Each time he became very aggressive and disagreeable.

I

>

> don't believe it is a fish allergy because he has had fish,

including

>

> cod, on many other occasions with not problem. I am disappointed,

>

> because having read Megson's paper, our family definitely fits the

>

> profile (autoimmune issues abound) for the therapy to be

effective. I'm

>

> wondering if the CLO needs to be balanced with some other

supplement. .

>

> . .? Anybody know?

>

> in FL>>

>

>

>

> I think I saw a couple of posts last week on this but didn't have

time to

> respond, so here are some of my thoughts and findings on this issue.

>

> I think there may be several things involved with taking CLO, that

could be

> causing the problem.

>

> One, of course would be the source- which company, and is it

mercury free?

>

> Another would be the dosage you are using and is it a balanced

formula?

> (i.e.: ratio of EPA and DHA) It appears that DHA, an essential

fatty acid

> (EFA), in fish oil, will hype you up, while EPA, another EFA in

fish oil will

> slow you down.

>

> Then there is the issue of balancing the fatty acids. I think that

CLO is

> important, or at least some type of fish oil that also contains the

right

> kind of vitamin A that Dr. Megson found useful. I find her research

really

> fascinating. However, the fish oil needs to be in balance with

other oils

> containing other EFAs.

>

> I'll copy part of the post I sent to another group on this issue

here- you

> may find it helpful. This is a summary of some of the information

on fatty

> acids that I have been able to locate.

>

> (I sent about 20 citations and web sites on fatty acids to the

other list.

> There is really a whole host of research that has been done by

multiple

> researchers dealing with this issue and specifically in regard to

fatty acid

> derangements in neurological disorders. Kay stammers has several

posted on

> her website that you may find interesting. I will send the list if

you guys

> want it, but it is quite long, so I won't do it here.)

>

>

>

Ruth

>

> PS Good sources of Omega 6 fatty acids include: Evening Primrose

Oil and cold

> pressed Sunflower or Safflower oil- not the grocery store variety

that is

> hydrogenated.

>

>

> Here is part of my other post:

>

>

> <<I think that a lot of people don't really understand the fatty

acid issue.

> I've done a fair amount of reading, so bear with me here.

>

> In our current modern day America we don't eat much fish, so we are

very

> depleted in Omega 3 oils (fish is the primary source, but also

found in soy

> and flax).

>

> However, we eat a diet high in fried foods- canola oil (basically

from

> several web sites I've seen, it looks like it does some pretty

nasty stuff,

> as well as causing a build up of long chain fatty acids), and

hydrogenated

> vegetable oils- which are basically inactivated fatty acids, so we

aren't

> getting the Omega 6's either. Hydrogenated oils (trans fatty acids)

are

> manmade (they are vegetable oils that have been hydrogenated under

pressure,

> bleached and flavored) to extend shelf life and taste. They are

extremely

> damaging to metabolic function (they act like plastic inside cell

membranes).

> Since some of these fats start out as corn or other oils that in

their

> original state would provide us with Omega 6 oils, some clinicians

are

> misunderstanding the problem, not recognizing that we are also

depleted in

> Omega 6's.

>

> To further compound the issue, until fairly recently, it was

thought that

> Omega 6 to Omega 3 ratio should be 1:1. It is now known that it

really should

> be 4:1. This is the work of Dr. Shloma Yahuda from Israel. Dr.

Yahuda

> presented this at the NIH meeting in September 98.

>

> The Omega 3's and Omega 6's are in competition with each other in

our bodies,

> too much of one drives down the other one. So too much fish oil

depletes the

> Omega 6 group of fatty acids.

>

> The Omega 3's and 6's help with natural Prostaglandin formation.

Prosta

> glandin 1 has to do with anti-inflammatory responses and thinning

of the

> blood (a good source for this would be GLA from Evening Primrose

oil).

> Prostaglandin 2 has to do with swelling and inflammation, inducing

birth,

> regulating temperature, lowering blood pressure, and regulation of

platelet

> aggregation and clotting. (The primary source for this is

Arachidonic acid in

> meat and dairy fats, but too much may stimulate the inflammation

and

> autoimmune problems we see in our kids). Prostaglandin 3's work to

attenuate

> excessive Series 2 production. Adequate production of the Series 3

> prostaglandins seems to protect against heart attack and stroke as

well as

> certain inflammatory diseases like arthritis, lupus and asthma

(these are

> formed from EPA in fish oil). So, as you can see, it is important

to have

> both Omega 3 and Omega 6 fatty acids in the diet, and we need to be

careful

> to have them in the proper amounts.

>

> I found this excerpt from an online site on fatty acids and

prostaglandin

> formation: " The excessive use of commercial vegetable oils

interferes with

> the production of prostaglandins, leading to an array of complaints

ranging

> from autoimmune disease to premenstrual syndrome (PMS). Disruption

of

> prostaglandin production leads to an increased tendency to form

blood clots,

> and hence to myocardial infarction - which has reached epidemic

levels in the

> US. Vegetable oils are more toxic when heated. One study reported

that

> polyunsaturates turn to varnish in the intestines. "

>

> Then, there is also evidence that a lot of our ASD kids have a

build up of

> VERY long chain fatty acids, so canola oil, peanut oil and peanut

butter and

> mustard can cause further neurological problems for our kids.>>

[Guest guest]

We have stayed away from peanut oil, peanut butter, and canola oil,

and also mustard, this we knew to be bad for our son many years ago

so these have not been a part of our diet. We only cook in sesame

seed oil, by Hains products it is very light and natural. We use no

other ois in the house, and eating out is a treat that is almost

never to avoid the bad oils and contaminates.

We have tried Coromega which is very platable for a child for the

essential fatty acids, but it does not have the right kind of vitamin

A which at this time is not to much of a concern, although I would

like to see the benefits of taking the right kind of vitamin a.

Coromega was great except it caused to become extremely

emotional. When I finally looked at the small print on the package I

realized it had Beta-Carotene which we know he cannot handle. We

avoid foods that have beta-carotene also, such as carrots and

sweetpotatoes, which is unfortunate because these food are so good

nutritionally and he likes both of them. We have to be very careful,

we also tried the childrens formula by Nortic Naturals, the are

suppose to be mercury free, so I wasn't worried about that. They

smell wonderful they are easy to give and we only gave him one, this

was what created a monster child. So now with a child so sensitive we

are wondering what to do, I was thinking about using flaxseed oil,

but I am waiting to have other issues checked, such as yeast and and

bacteria which many cause him to be more reactive to anything we give

him, but thanks for the information, it all really helps. Leah

> <<Original message:

> Message: 14

>

> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 20:56:13 -0500

>

> From: " Arthur " <sea@i...>

>

> Subject: Re:Question to Andy about Cod Liver Oil

>

>

> Leah,

>

> Yes, the same thing happened with my son. I tried it on two

occasions a

>

> week apart. Each time he became very aggressive and disagreeable.

I

>

> don't believe it is a fish allergy because he has had fish,

including

>

> cod, on many other occasions with not problem. I am disappointed,

>

> because having read Megson's paper, our family definitely fits the

>

> profile (autoimmune issues abound) for the therapy to be

effective. I'm

>

> wondering if the CLO needs to be balanced with some other

supplement. .

>

> . .? Anybody know?

>

> in FL>>

>

>

>

> I think I saw a couple of posts last week on this but didn't have

time to

> respond, so here are some of my thoughts and findings on this issue.

>

> I think there may be several things involved with taking CLO, that

could be

> causing the problem.

>

> One, of course would be the source- which company, and is it

mercury free?

>

> Another would be the dosage you are using and is it a balanced

formula?

> (i.e.: ratio of EPA and DHA) It appears that DHA, an essential

fatty acid

> (EFA), in fish oil, will hype you up, while EPA, another EFA in

fish oil will

> slow you down.

>

> Then there is the issue of balancing the fatty acids. I think that

CLO is

> important, or at least some type of fish oil that also contains the

right

> kind of vitamin A that Dr. Megson found useful. I find her research

really

> fascinating. However, the fish oil needs to be in balance with

other oils

> containing other EFAs.

>

> I'll copy part of the post I sent to another group on this issue

here- you

> may find it helpful. This is a summary of some of the information

on fatty

> acids that I have been able to locate.

>

> (I sent about 20 citations and web sites on fatty acids to the

other list.

> There is really a whole host of research that has been done by

multiple

> researchers dealing with this issue and specifically in regard to

fatty acid

> derangements in neurological disorders. Kay stammers has several

posted on

> her website that you may find interesting. I will send the list if

you guys

> want it, but it is quite long, so I won't do it here.)

>

>

>

Ruth

>

> PS Good sources of Omega 6 fatty acids include: Evening Primrose

Oil and cold

> pressed Sunflower or Safflower oil- not the grocery store variety

that is

> hydrogenated.

>

>

> Here is part of my other post:

>

>

> <<I think that a lot of people don't really understand the fatty

acid issue.

> I've done a fair amount of reading, so bear with me here.

>

> In our current modern day America we don't eat much fish, so we are

very

> depleted in Omega 3 oils (fish is the primary source, but also

found in soy

> and flax).

>

> However, we eat a diet high in fried foods- canola oil (basically

from

> several web sites I've seen, it looks like it does some pretty

nasty stuff,

> as well as causing a build up of long chain fatty acids), and

hydrogenated

> vegetable oils- which are basically inactivated fatty acids, so we

aren't

> getting the Omega 6's either. Hydrogenated oils (trans fatty acids)

are

> manmade (they are vegetable oils that have been hydrogenated under

pressure,

> bleached and flavored) to extend shelf life and taste. They are

extremely

> damaging to metabolic function (they act like plastic inside cell

membranes).

> Since some of these fats start out as corn or other oils that in

their

> original state would provide us with Omega 6 oils, some clinicians

are

> misunderstanding the problem, not recognizing that we are also

depleted in

> Omega 6's.

>

> To further compound the issue, until fairly recently, it was

thought that

> Omega 6 to Omega 3 ratio should be 1:1. It is now known that it

really should

> be 4:1. This is the work of Dr. Shloma Yahuda from Israel. Dr.

Yahuda

> presented this at the NIH meeting in September 98.

>

> The Omega 3's and Omega 6's are in competition with each other in

our bodies,

> too much of one drives down the other one. So too much fish oil

depletes the

> Omega 6 group of fatty acids.

>

> The Omega 3's and 6's help with natural Prostaglandin formation.

Prosta

> glandin 1 has to do with anti-inflammatory responses and thinning

of the

> blood (a good source for this would be GLA from Evening Primrose

oil).

> Prostaglandin 2 has to do with swelling and inflammation, inducing

birth,

> regulating temperature, lowering blood pressure, and regulation of

platelet

> aggregation and clotting. (The primary source for this is

Arachidonic acid in

> meat and dairy fats, but too much may stimulate the inflammation

and

> autoimmune problems we see in our kids). Prostaglandin 3's work to

attenuate

> excessive Series 2 production. Adequate production of the Series 3

> prostaglandins seems to protect against heart attack and stroke as

well as

> certain inflammatory diseases like arthritis, lupus and asthma

(these are

> formed from EPA in fish oil). So, as you can see, it is important

to have

> both Omega 3 and Omega 6 fatty acids in the diet, and we need to be

careful

> to have them in the proper amounts.

>

> I found this excerpt from an online site on fatty acids and

prostaglandin

> formation: " The excessive use of commercial vegetable oils

interferes with

> the production of prostaglandins, leading to an array of complaints

ranging

> from autoimmune disease to premenstrual syndrome (PMS). Disruption

of

> prostaglandin production leads to an increased tendency to form

blood clots,

> and hence to myocardial infarction - which has reached epidemic

levels in the

> US. Vegetable oils are more toxic when heated. One study reported

that

> polyunsaturates turn to varnish in the intestines. "

>

> Then, there is also evidence that a lot of our ASD kids have a

build up of

> VERY long chain fatty acids, so canola oil, peanut oil and peanut

butter and

> mustard can cause further neurological problems for our kids.>>

[Guest guest]

Nordic naturals has a product that is called Ultimate omega that has the ratios that you are looking for but it is unflavored. I would suggest that you try the borage oil, it is readily available at any health foods store and you can balance everything out yourself. I think the ratio is 3:1

[Guest guest]

I would like to add here that my son's plasma tests had shown low

levels for GLA. We tried supplementing with omega 6 GLA in the

form of borage oil, and at a later date, black currant oil, both

gave negative effects, so we discontinued the GLA.

Cathie

> Nordic naturals has a product that is called Ultimate omega that

has

the

> ratios that you are looking for but it is unflavored. I would

suggest that

> you try the borage oil, it is readily available at any health foods

store and

> you can balance everything out yourself. I think the ratio is 3:1

[Guest guest]

I haven't read much yet on borage oil but I believe I've read somewhere that

some of our kids don't do well on it- can't break it down right or something.

Did you try Evening Primrose? That is the most bioavailable form of GLA.

(I don't know anything about black currant oil. I'm still reading everything

I can get my hands on about the fatty acid problems, so I haven't gotten off

into some of the more unusual oils.)

Ruth

Message: 19

Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 15:17:02 -0000

From: Gserna@...

Subject: Re:Question to Andy about Cod Liver Oil

I would like to add here that my son's plasma tests had shown low

levels for GLA. We tried supplementing with omega 6 GLA in the

form of borage oil, and at a later date, black currant oil, both

gave negative effects, so we discontinued the GLA.

Cathie

[Guest guest]

One of the more difficult things to sort out is which lab

abnormalities are part of the pathological process and which are the

body's rational adaptations to it. Correcting the first leads to

improvement, correcting the second leads to getting worse.

Andy

> > Nordic naturals has a product that is called Ultimate omega that

> has

> the

> > ratios that you are looking for but it is unflavored. I would

> suggest that

> > you try the borage oil, it is readily available at any health

foods

> store and

> > you can balance everything out yourself. I think the ratio is 3:1