Resistant to Diflucan but DAN! wants to prescribe anyway - help

[Guest guest]

Okay, I have another dilemma here that I'd love some input on. My

son is on day 85 of Nizoral, Day 25 of Valtrex. Our DAN! says he's

been on Nizoral long enough and it's time to switch - he suggests

Diflucan. Here's my dilemma. Both stool cultures we've done with

our son (spaced 9 months apart) both indicated a resistance to

Diflucan. In fact, it said that ketoconozole and nystatin were the

only drugs he was sensitive to (out of diflucan, nizoral, sporonax

and nystatin). So if we switch to diflucan and he his specific type

of yeast is resistant to it, what would be the point? And how long

would you do a trial of diflucan if this were the case?

I'm not sure what other options we have, but as of now, either the

dosage of nizoral we are giving him currently (50mg a day) isn't

enough or his yeast has become resistant to this drug because he is

acting very " yeasty " (drunk walk, goofy, laughing inappropriately,

spacy, bad poops, etc.)

I'd ask our DAN! his opinion, but he seems to be more parent

directed vs. giving me direction which is really what I need because

I'm new to this and I want/need some experienced opinions. He

didn't even keep my son's previous test results so I'm sure he

doesn't remember off the top of his head.

Any thoughts on this? Would you switch to Diflucan if your child

showed a resistance to it both times on his stool culture? What

other options do we have if we're on Valtrex? Naturals aren't

strong enough right? Oh gosh - I feel lost. Thanks in advance for

any guidance, experience you can share.

~Claudine

[Guest guest]

We used to have a DAN like that too...I felt like I was coaxing him,

prying him for more info because I was so desperate to learn. He

seemed to agree with whatever I said and had several " suggestions "

about things I " might " want to try. I wanted someone to tell me

EXACTLY what to try, and if that didn't work, we could make

changes..so forth and so on. Thats what we pay the big bucks for

right?

Anywho, my son is starting Nizoral next week at double the dosage

that your son is currently on. Have you knocked out the bacteria? Is

he on the GFCF/yeast free diet? If you are still giving sweets/lots

of fruits, this may cancel some of the effectiveness out of the

medication. I have heard that even though test results show some

kids to be resistant to Diflucan, that it may work anyways, so I

would probably give it a try if I were you. In fact, my son showed

up as resistant to Diflucan as well, but if this Nizoral doesn't

work, then I would like to give Diflucan a try. Just make sure and

have him on a diet that doesn't overfeed the yeast you are trying to

kill. You may check into adding another probiotic/antifungal as well.

>

> Okay, I have another dilemma here that I'd love some input on. My

> son is on day 85 of Nizoral, Day 25 of Valtrex. Our DAN! says

he's

> been on Nizoral long enough and it's time to switch - he suggests

> Diflucan. Here's my dilemma. Both stool cultures we've done with

> our son (spaced 9 months apart) both indicated a resistance to

> Diflucan. In fact, it said that ketoconozole and nystatin were

the

> only drugs he was sensitive to (out of diflucan, nizoral, sporonax

> and nystatin). So if we switch to diflucan and he his specific

type

> of yeast is resistant to it, what would be the point? And how

long

> would you do a trial of diflucan if this were the case?

>

> I'm not sure what other options we have, but as of now, either the

> dosage of nizoral we are giving him currently (50mg a day) isn't

> enough or his yeast has become resistant to this drug because he

is

> acting very " yeasty " (drunk walk, goofy, laughing inappropriately,

> spacy, bad poops, etc.)

>

> I'd ask our DAN! his opinion, but he seems to be more parent

> directed vs. giving me direction which is really what I need

because

> I'm new to this and I want/need some experienced opinions. He

> didn't even keep my son's previous test results so I'm sure he

> doesn't remember off the top of his head.

>

> Any thoughts on this? Would you switch to Diflucan if your child

> showed a resistance to it both times on his stool culture? What

> other options do we have if we're on Valtrex? Naturals aren't

> strong enough right? Oh gosh - I feel lost. Thanks in advance

for

> any guidance, experience you can share.

>

> ~Claudine

>

[Guest guest]

We used to have a DAN like that too...I felt like I was coaxing him,

prying him for more info because I was so desperate to learn. He

seemed to agree with whatever I said and had several " suggestions "

about things I " might " want to try. I wanted someone to tell me

EXACTLY what to try, and if that didn't work, we could make

changes..so forth and so on. Thats what we pay the big bucks for

right?

Anywho, my son is starting Nizoral next week at double the dosage

that your son is currently on. Have you knocked out the bacteria? Is

he on the GFCF/yeast free diet? If you are still giving sweets/lots

of fruits, this may cancel some of the effectiveness out of the

medication. I have heard that even though test results show some

kids to be resistant to Diflucan, that it may work anyways, so I

would probably give it a try if I were you. In fact, my son showed

up as resistant to Diflucan as well, but if this Nizoral doesn't

work, then I would like to give Diflucan a try. Just make sure and

have him on a diet that doesn't overfeed the yeast you are trying to

kill. You may check into adding another probiotic/antifungal as well.

>

> Okay, I have another dilemma here that I'd love some input on. My

> son is on day 85 of Nizoral, Day 25 of Valtrex. Our DAN! says

he's

> been on Nizoral long enough and it's time to switch - he suggests

> Diflucan. Here's my dilemma. Both stool cultures we've done with

> our son (spaced 9 months apart) both indicated a resistance to

> Diflucan. In fact, it said that ketoconozole and nystatin were

the

> only drugs he was sensitive to (out of diflucan, nizoral, sporonax

> and nystatin). So if we switch to diflucan and he his specific

type

> of yeast is resistant to it, what would be the point? And how

long

> would you do a trial of diflucan if this were the case?

>

> I'm not sure what other options we have, but as of now, either the

> dosage of nizoral we are giving him currently (50mg a day) isn't

> enough or his yeast has become resistant to this drug because he

is

> acting very " yeasty " (drunk walk, goofy, laughing inappropriately,

> spacy, bad poops, etc.)

>

> I'd ask our DAN! his opinion, but he seems to be more parent

> directed vs. giving me direction which is really what I need

because

> I'm new to this and I want/need some experienced opinions. He

> didn't even keep my son's previous test results so I'm sure he

> doesn't remember off the top of his head.

>

> Any thoughts on this? Would you switch to Diflucan if your child

> showed a resistance to it both times on his stool culture? What

> other options do we have if we're on Valtrex? Naturals aren't

> strong enough right? Oh gosh - I feel lost. Thanks in advance

for

> any guidance, experience you can share.

>

> ~Claudine

>

[Guest guest]

50 mgs of Nizoral is *really* low, in my opinion.  When my son was on it he was taking 175 mgs (he's 32#'s).  Many DAN's just don't know the proper dosages and potentially end up making things worse.cherylOkay, I have another dilemma here that I'd love some input on. My son is on day 85 of Nizoral, Day 25 of Valtrex. Our DAN! says he's been on Nizoral long enough and it's time to switch - he suggests Diflucan. Here's my dilemma. Both stool cultures we've done with our son (spaced 9 months apart) both indicated a resistance to Diflucan. In fact, it said that ketoconozole and nystatin were the only drugs he was sensitive to (out of diflucan, nizoral, sporonax and nystatin). So if we switch to diflucan and he his specific type of yeast is resistant to it, what would be the point? And how long would you do a trial of diflucan if this were the case? I'm not sure what other options we have, but as of now, either the dosage of nizoral we are giving him currently (50mg a day) isn't enough or his yeast has become resistant to this drug because he is acting very "yeasty" (drunk walk, goofy, laughing inappropriately, spacy, bad poops, etc.)I'd ask our DAN! his opinion, but he seems to be more parent directed vs. giving me direction which is really what I need because I'm new to this and I want/need some experienced opinions. He didn't even keep my son's previous test results so I'm sure he doesn't remember off the top of his head. Any thoughts on this? Would you switch to Diflucan if your child showed a resistance to it both times on his stool culture? What other options do we have if we're on Valtrex? Naturals aren't strong enough right? Oh gosh - I feel lost. Thanks in advance for any guidance, experience you can share.~Claudine

[Guest guest]

Our son is 5, 36 lbs and he's on 400 mg Ketoconozol (Nizoral) with

his Valtrex. I'd consider a 2nd opinion. There are many on this board

over the last few months who have shared their dosages. Perhaps that

would support your discussion.

We're OK with Diflucan but there is Sporonox with which we did not

respond but many people use it. It is expensive -- we needed pre

approval from our Ins. Co.

Good luck.

>

> Okay, I have another dilemma here that I'd love some input on. My

> son is on day 85 of Nizoral, Day 25 of Valtrex. Our DAN! says he's

> been on Nizoral long enough and it's time to switch - he suggests

> Diflucan. Here's my dilemma. Both stool cultures we've done with

> our son (spaced 9 months apart) both indicated a resistance to

> Diflucan. In fact, it said that ketoconozole and nystatin were the

> only drugs he was sensitive to (out of diflucan, nizoral, sporonax

> and nystatin). So if we switch to diflucan and he his specific

type

> of yeast is resistant to it, what would be the point? And how long

> would you do a trial of diflucan if this were the case?

>

> I'm not sure what other options we have, but as of now, either the

> dosage of nizoral we are giving him currently (50mg a day) isn't

> enough or his yeast has become resistant to this drug because he is

> acting very " yeasty " (drunk walk, goofy, laughing inappropriately,

> spacy, bad poops, etc.)

>

> I'd ask our DAN! his opinion, but he seems to be more parent

> directed vs. giving me direction which is really what I need

because

> I'm new to this and I want/need some experienced opinions. He

> didn't even keep my son's previous test results so I'm sure he

> doesn't remember off the top of his head.

>

> Any thoughts on this? Would you switch to Diflucan if your child

> showed a resistance to it both times on his stool culture? What

> other options do we have if we're on Valtrex? Naturals aren't

> strong enough right? Oh gosh - I feel lost. Thanks in advance for

> any guidance, experience you can share.

>

> ~Claudine

>

[Guest guest]

Our son is 5, 36 lbs and he's on 400 mg Ketoconozol (Nizoral) with

his Valtrex. I'd consider a 2nd opinion. There are many on this board

over the last few months who have shared their dosages. Perhaps that

would support your discussion.

We're OK with Diflucan but there is Sporonox with which we did not

respond but many people use it. It is expensive -- we needed pre

approval from our Ins. Co.

Good luck.

>

> Okay, I have another dilemma here that I'd love some input on. My

> son is on day 85 of Nizoral, Day 25 of Valtrex. Our DAN! says he's

> been on Nizoral long enough and it's time to switch - he suggests

> Diflucan. Here's my dilemma. Both stool cultures we've done with

> our son (spaced 9 months apart) both indicated a resistance to

> Diflucan. In fact, it said that ketoconozole and nystatin were the

> only drugs he was sensitive to (out of diflucan, nizoral, sporonax

> and nystatin). So if we switch to diflucan and he his specific

type

> of yeast is resistant to it, what would be the point? And how long

> would you do a trial of diflucan if this were the case?

>

> I'm not sure what other options we have, but as of now, either the

> dosage of nizoral we are giving him currently (50mg a day) isn't

> enough or his yeast has become resistant to this drug because he is

> acting very " yeasty " (drunk walk, goofy, laughing inappropriately,

> spacy, bad poops, etc.)

>

> I'd ask our DAN! his opinion, but he seems to be more parent

> directed vs. giving me direction which is really what I need

because

> I'm new to this and I want/need some experienced opinions. He

> didn't even keep my son's previous test results so I'm sure he

> doesn't remember off the top of his head.

>

> Any thoughts on this? Would you switch to Diflucan if your child

> showed a resistance to it both times on his stool culture? What

> other options do we have if we're on Valtrex? Naturals aren't

> strong enough right? Oh gosh - I feel lost. Thanks in advance for

> any guidance, experience you can share.

>

> ~Claudine

>