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In a message dated 9/4/03 3:37:02 AM Central Daylight Time,

kathy.hi@... writes:

> Wow!! Keri is an incredibly perceptive person! Congrats to her for

> having such good insight into her depression. That is no mean feat.

Kathy,

Thanks to you and to all who have answered my post :) Yep, Keri expresses

herself very well, and thank God for that! I am still trying to discern what

all this means, because Keri is very perceptive and she has the sensory issues

so some fairly ordinary stuff can " loom large " even though it might be within

the realm of normal (if that makes any sense). What she may be experiencing is

the onset of puberty and the hormonal shifts that bring mood swings, but even

so, I don't want to ignore it given her history (also, I have had depression

and was anorexic as a teenager so I have had my own struggles and can't ignore

the fact that the " apple doesn't fall far from the tree " !). Having just

moved here makes it difficult because I am still looking for a pediatrician who

would be the first line of defense in all this. We did have a psychiatrist in

Houston who saw her a couple of times and dx the anxiety and possible OCD (we

never did meds because we dealt with it from a sensory standpoint and she just

kind of pulled out of the worst of it). So I have to " reinvent the wheel "

here as far as finding help. I know I must sound ignorant, but refresh my

memory

-- what is a " p-doc " ? Is this a pediatrician or a psychiatrist?

Judy also mentioned SAD ... and this is a possibility too. Of course we

lived in Houston and are now in San Diego so its not like we live in a snowy

climate or place where it rains all the time. But yep, Keri did say it had

something to do with environment sometimes ... like the lighting can make a

difference.

I can't tell you how much help you all have been!

Thanks,

Tina

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In a message dated 9/4/03 3:37:02 AM Central Daylight Time,

kathy.hi@... writes:

> Wow!! Keri is an incredibly perceptive person! Congrats to her for

> having such good insight into her depression. That is no mean feat.

Kathy,

Thanks to you and to all who have answered my post :) Yep, Keri expresses

herself very well, and thank God for that! I am still trying to discern what

all this means, because Keri is very perceptive and she has the sensory issues

so some fairly ordinary stuff can " loom large " even though it might be within

the realm of normal (if that makes any sense). What she may be experiencing is

the onset of puberty and the hormonal shifts that bring mood swings, but even

so, I don't want to ignore it given her history (also, I have had depression

and was anorexic as a teenager so I have had my own struggles and can't ignore

the fact that the " apple doesn't fall far from the tree " !). Having just

moved here makes it difficult because I am still looking for a pediatrician who

would be the first line of defense in all this. We did have a psychiatrist in

Houston who saw her a couple of times and dx the anxiety and possible OCD (we

never did meds because we dealt with it from a sensory standpoint and she just

kind of pulled out of the worst of it). So I have to " reinvent the wheel "

here as far as finding help. I know I must sound ignorant, but refresh my

memory

-- what is a " p-doc " ? Is this a pediatrician or a psychiatrist?

Judy also mentioned SAD ... and this is a possibility too. Of course we

lived in Houston and are now in San Diego so its not like we live in a snowy

climate or place where it rains all the time. But yep, Keri did say it had

something to do with environment sometimes ... like the lighting can make a

difference.

I can't tell you how much help you all have been!

Thanks,

Tina

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In a message dated 9/4/03 3:37:02 AM Central Daylight Time,

kathy.hi@... writes:

> Wow!! Keri is an incredibly perceptive person! Congrats to her for

> having such good insight into her depression. That is no mean feat.

Kathy,

Thanks to you and to all who have answered my post :) Yep, Keri expresses

herself very well, and thank God for that! I am still trying to discern what

all this means, because Keri is very perceptive and she has the sensory issues

so some fairly ordinary stuff can " loom large " even though it might be within

the realm of normal (if that makes any sense). What she may be experiencing is

the onset of puberty and the hormonal shifts that bring mood swings, but even

so, I don't want to ignore it given her history (also, I have had depression

and was anorexic as a teenager so I have had my own struggles and can't ignore

the fact that the " apple doesn't fall far from the tree " !). Having just

moved here makes it difficult because I am still looking for a pediatrician who

would be the first line of defense in all this. We did have a psychiatrist in

Houston who saw her a couple of times and dx the anxiety and possible OCD (we

never did meds because we dealt with it from a sensory standpoint and she just

kind of pulled out of the worst of it). So I have to " reinvent the wheel "

here as far as finding help. I know I must sound ignorant, but refresh my

memory

-- what is a " p-doc " ? Is this a pediatrician or a psychiatrist?

Judy also mentioned SAD ... and this is a possibility too. Of course we

lived in Houston and are now in San Diego so its not like we live in a snowy

climate or place where it rains all the time. But yep, Keri did say it had

something to do with environment sometimes ... like the lighting can make a

difference.

I can't tell you how much help you all have been!

Thanks,

Tina

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HI Tina:

P-doc is generally referring to a psychiatrist. Actually we found the

most helpful kind of doc for OCD is a psychologist. Meds certainly

helped our son, Steve, but it has been the E & RP which really managed to

put OCD more into the background of his life. Unfortunately we found

that his pediatrician, other than being gentle and kindly, was not very

much help at all for OCD. IN fact I would recommend going directly to

mental health professionals. I know that things are slowly changing

with pediatricians becoming more knowledgeable about anxiety disorders

and OCD, but I believe our experience is not atypical.

After spending years and thousands of dollars on getting Steve treated

with E & RP for his symptoms, many of which were classic contamination

stuff, e.g. handwashing, his pediatrician keeps reminding him to wash

his hands when he goes in for an ear ache, cold or flu. I have gently

mentioned that he has a problem with that but I don't think it

registers. Just our experience.

People even have SAD (seasonal affective disorder) here in Hawai`i and

to me it feels like summer almost all year around here. Some people are

very sensitive to changes in the seasons.

OCD tends to wax and wane so symptoms can become less apparent for no

real reason. I hope you can find a good team of mental health

professionals to give Keri the treatment she needs and seems very ready

to try. Unfortunately when untreated OCD tends to get worse, and when

treated about 80% of people show significant improvement. To get well

from his OCD and MDD Steve had a child psychiatrist (actually quite a

few), a psychologist (quite a few of these till finding the right one)

and a E & RP behavior therapist. IT took all three of them working

together for a long time to get our child back.

Good luck, take care, aloha, Kathy (h)

kathy.hi@...

Re: depression? Thanks!

In a message dated 9/4/03 3:37:02 AM Central Daylight Time,

kathy.hi@... writes:

> Wow!! Keri is an incredibly perceptive person! Congrats to her for

> having such good insight into her depression. That is no mean feat.

Kathy,

Thanks to you and to all who have answered my post :) Yep, Keri

expresses

herself very well, and thank God for that! I am still trying to discern

what

all this means, because Keri is very perceptive and she has the sensory

issues

so some fairly ordinary stuff can " loom large " even though it might be

within

the realm of normal (if that makes any sense). What she may be

experiencing is

the onset of puberty and the hormonal shifts that bring mood swings, but

even

so, I don't want to ignore it given her history (also, I have had

depression

and was anorexic as a teenager so I have had my own struggles and can't

ignore

the fact that the " apple doesn't fall far from the tree " !). Having just

moved here makes it difficult because I am still looking for a

pediatrician who

would be the first line of defense in all this. We did have a

psychiatrist in

Houston who saw her a couple of times and dx the anxiety and possible

OCD (we

never did meds because we dealt with it from a sensory standpoint and

she just

kind of pulled out of the worst of it). So I have to " reinvent the

wheel "

here as far as finding help. I know I must sound ignorant, but refresh

my memory

-- what is a " p-doc " ? Is this a pediatrician or a psychiatrist?

Judy also mentioned SAD ... and this is a possibility too. Of course we

lived in Houston and are now in San Diego so its not like we live in a

snowy

climate or place where it rains all the time. But yep, Keri did say it

had

something to do with environment sometimes ... like the lighting can

make a

difference.

I can't tell you how much help you all have been!

Thanks,

Tina

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