dental questions

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Hi Joan, and list,

[note to list: I initially wrote this note JUST to Joan,

but now want to send it to the list instead. please

excuse the lack of capital letters, and the rather informal

style. I'm a lot less picky about such things for an

audience of one. The info I pasted at the end (which

I did not write) will be useful to many people I think.]

well, as usual I don't know much, but I can offer empathy!

man, what a maze to try to figure these things out!

after my 1st appointment for amalgam replacements the

dentist informed me that I needed a root canal in one

of the teeth. major tailspin. I had been reading all

this stuff about how terribly dangerous root canals are

(or can be anyway) but paying no attention. ug.

if they want to remove the tooth (or teeth) you may want

to look for Hal Huggins info on tooth removal procedures.

I think (not sure) that he has some kind of procedure

or guidelines or whatnot. This is to avoid " cavitations "

which seems to be just as controversial as mercury. ug.

you might try searching on " cavitations " --- expect to find

some very upset people and lots of controversy.

regarding the materials, my 2 cents is that all we can

do is look for least harm. the anti-merc dentist that I

went to said that ALL the materials he uses are ones that

are very low reactivity for most people. he doesn't

routinely recommend testing for materials, but will do

it if someone wants to.

I chose not to do it for any of the work. Who knows,

some day I may curse that choice? Anyway, I did get

the GOLD material (in my crown) muscle tested. I took

it to a chiropractor who I know well, who I think is

quite expert at muscle testing. I used to get NAET

from her, and she is a lot of fun besides!

She charged me about $40 for the appointment to muscle

test. (we tested the ACTUAL gold material, which I brought

in, and also tested samples of mercury and amalgam that

she had there in her " kit " .)

Arranging to " borrow " a piece of the gold was merely

inconvienient... no hassels. The dentist doesn't keep

any of it, I had to call the lab people who make the

crowns. They wanted a deposit (which I thought was

perfectly reasonable!) and were cooperative.

I don't know anything about the resins and stuff, I'm

sure there is plenty to know there too.

One last thing: I am starting a " home dental record " .

I plan to find out the names of all the materials

in my mouth, and what they are made of. (as best I can)

I *think* at this point ALL the fillings etc in my mouth

are ones that were placed by 3 dentists, all of whom

I am in contact with. I figure that if questions come

up later, I'll at least have some information about

what is in there and when it was put there.

I just went and found some information I saved from another

list, on the topic of dental materials. I did not write

this. (it is the info below my signature) (Gee, Bernie

comes up again here!)

best regards,

Moria

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Anyone needing any dental materials used in their mouth would

be wise to have this test (prescribed by a dentist or a doctor)

done in advance :

Clifford Materials Reactivity Testing :

http://www.ccrlab.com

Here are two safe and strong, non-metal dental materials for

fiber-reinforced, poly-ceramic crowns and bridges :

Targis Vectris :

http://www.dentalceramicsinc.com/Dental_Ceramics_Targis_Vectris.htm

Sculpture FibreKor :

http://www.killiandental.com/sculptur.htm

Any dentist can find a lab which uses these materials.

The following metals, when used in dental alloys, are toxic (above

a very low level) : mercury, lead, arsenic, cadmium, nickel, tin,

manganese, copper, aluminum, palladium, beryllium, and chromium.

The safest metal for crowns is a " high noble " alloy of (only) gold

plus platinum. Pure titanium is usually safe, also.

It may be best to avoid any metals in the mouth. At the most,

it is safe to have only one type of metal, or metal-alloy, in the

mouth -- because ANY TWO different metals or alloys (including

two different formulations of one alloy or amalgam) will produce

an electro-galvanic current between them.

An electro-galvanic (battery) current will accelerate the dissolving

(or mercury vapor outgassing) of one of the metals /alloys /amalgams.

Also, many dental metals are highly toxic -- or even if they're not

" toxic, " they can produce severe immune reactions. [This restriction

to one type of metal also includes: any metal in braces, or dentures,

or amalgam fillings that may have been left hidden under crowns.]

This unwanted electro-galvanic current will also irritate the

acupuncture meridian(s), and your related bodily organ(s), which

" connect " to the artificially- electrified teeth.

See:

SCI: mixed metals in the mouth and oral galvanism

by Bernie Windham, Fri, 7 Jul 2000

enter the title here :

(search engine may be slow, so be patient)

http://www.listserv.gmd.de/archives/amalgam.html

Corrosion of dental alloys

[in Italian, except for final summary and 100+ references]

http://summa.infosquare.it/dentista/dm0796/01.htm

Serious immune reactions to metals are detected by the new

MELISA test ( " Memory Lymphocyte Immunostimulation Assay " ) :

http://www.melisa.org

http://www.cfsn.com/melisa.html

http://www.cfsn.com/metimune.html

Also, many white-plastic composite dental materials leak

Bisphenol A, a synthetic estrogen, into the body. Synthetic

estrogens are Endocrine Disrupters. Bisphenol A is the same

estrogen which is contained in the sealants that dentists paint

onto young children's teeth. (Bisphenol A is also contained in

polycarbonate 5-gallon water bottles, and in most baby bottles.)

Some people may have serious reactions to Bisphenol A -- also,

it contributes to weight gain, early puberty in children, and

possible sex damage to male fetuses and nursing infants.

Bisphenol-A references :

Estrogenic agents leach from dental sealant.

Science News 149:214 (Apr. 6, 1996).

Dental sealant safety reconsidered.

http://www.sciencenews.org/sn_arc97/11_22_97/fob1.htm

What's Coming Out of Baby's Bottle?

http://www.sciencenews.org/sn_arc99/7_24_99/food.htm

Bisphenol A contributes to weight gain, early puberty.

http://www.tmc.tulane.edu/ecme/eehome/newsviews/research/bpa2_00.html

Exposure to bisphenol A advances puberty.

Howdeshell, Kembra L., K. Hotchkiss, a A.

Thayer, G. Vandenbergh, and Frederick S. vom Saal.

Nature, 401:763-764 (Oct 21, 1999).

Xenoestrogens: the emerging story of bisphenol A.

Ben-, N. and R. Steinmetz. 1998.

Trends in Endocrinology and Metabolism, 9:124-128.

A physiologically based approach to the study of bisphenol A

and other estrogenic chemicals on the size of reproductive

organs, daily sperm production and behavior.

vom Saal, F.S., P.S. Cooke, D.L. Buchanan, P. Palanza, K.A.

Thayer, S.C. Nagel, S. Parmigiani, and W.V. Welshons. 1998.

Toxicology and Industrial Health, 14:239-260.

Here are a few types of white-plastic dental composites that

are claimed to -not- contain Bisphenol-A :

1) Procera

2) Diamond Lite and Diamond Crown

3) Targis Vectris

4) Sculpture FibreKor

A few key books for further information :

Elements of Danger : Protect Yourself Against the

Hazards of Modern Dentistry,

by Dr Morton

Paperback - 304 pages (November 1999)

Hampton Roads Pub Co; ISBN: 1571741461

Uninformed Consent : The Hidden Dangers in Dental Care

by Hal A. Huggins, DDS and E. Levy, MD

Paperback - 280 pages (February 1999)

Hampton Roads Pub Co; ISBN: 1571741178

Root Canal Cover-up Exposed

by E. Meinig, DDS

Bion Publishing, Ojai, California, 1993, ISBN 0-945196-14-8,

also: Price Pottenger Nutrition, 1994; ISBN: 0945196199

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Message: 18

Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 14:41:34 -0500

From: kenneth kersmanc <kenjoan@...>

Subject: HELP with Dental questions

I would like some feed back please:

My son, 7- will ge going to have his dental surgery in early March.

I do not know if they will try to repair or pull his bad tooth (in back)

if they pull they will want to put in a " spacer " I have a list of the

ingredients that will be used in all circumstances.

>From reading these there is really no save alternative. What is everyone

else doing? I can not at this point get his blood tested.

We are chelating him and in round 18 with DMSA/ALA- he has done great. Of

course there will be no mercury or fluoride.

Is there really anything safe- or do we just hope for the best with the

least offensive. I REALLY need some help with this one.

Does anyone know anything about the " spacers " and glue- I am still checking

the ingredients

Joan

kenjoan@...

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