Guest guest Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 Here's everything you could want to know. Yes Calcium Carbonate is " cheaper " but citrate is almost 3 times as bio available. Read on gentle readers. Optimal Calcium Intake National Institutes of Health Consensus Development Conference Statement June 6-8, 1994 This statement was originally published as: Optimal Calcium Intake. NIH Consens Statement 1994 June 6-8; 12(4):1- 31 For making bibliographic reference to consensus statement number 97 in the electronic form displayed here, it is recommended that the following format be used: Optimal Calcium Intake. NIH Consens Statement Online 1994 June 6-8; 12 (4):1-31 ________________________________ NIH Consensus Statements are prepared by a nonadvocate, non-Federal panel of experts, based on (1) presentations by investigators working in areas relevant to the consensus questions during a 2-day public session; (2) questions and statements from conference attendees during open discussion periods that are part of the public session; and (3) closed deliberations by the panel during the remainder of the second day and morning of the third. This statement is an independent report of the panel and is not a policy statement of the NIH or the Federal Government. The statement reflects the panel's assessment of medical knowledge available at the time the statement was written. Thus, it provides a " snapshot in time " of the state of knowledge on the conference topic. When reading the statement, keep in mind that new knowledge is inevitably accumulating through medical research. [From Section 4. " What are the best ways to obtain optimum calcium intake " - **highlighted** text selected by me (JAZ)] " **For some individuals, calcium supplements may be the preferred way to attain optimal calcium intake.** Calcium supplements are available as various salts, and most preparations are well absorbed except when manufactured such that they do not disintegrate during oral ingestion. **Absorption of calcium supplements is most efficient at individual doses of 500 mg or less and when taken between meals.** Ingesting calcium supplements between meals supports calcium bioavailability, since food may contain certain compounds that reduce calcium absorption (e.g., oxalates). **However, absorption of one form of calcium supplementation, calcium carbonate, is impaired in fasted individuals who have an absence of gastric acid.** Absorption of calcium carbonate can be improved in these individuals when it is taken with certain food. **The potential for calcium supplementation to interfere with iron absorption is an important consideration when it is ingested with meals. Alternatively, calcium supplementation in the form of calcium citrate does not require gastric acid for optimal absorption and thus could be considered in older individuals with reduced gastric acid production.** In individuals with adequate gastric acid production, it is preferable to ingest calcium supplements between meals. " ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ASK AHSC Answers to Health Questions from The University of Arizona Health Sciences Center (AHSC) in Tucson MAY 2001 Q I was told to take calcium supplements daily after my gastric bypass operation. Which is better, calcium carbonate or calcium citrate? Why? And how much should I take? ( I'm a 55-year-old male, 6'3 " , 205 lbs.) R.H. A Calcium carbonate has more calcium per gram than calcium citrate, so it would take less volume (fewer pills or less liquid) of the calcium carbonate to provide the same amount of absorbable calcium. Because calcium carbonate requires hydrochloric acid, a stomach acid, to be digested and absorbed, the type and extent of your gastric bypass will determine which calcium supplement is better for you. The recommended intake of calcium for a 55-year-old male is 1,200 milligrams daily based on the 1997 Institute of Medicine guidelines. However, you should check with the dietitian who assisted you after your surgery, or check with your surgeon, for a specific, individualized recommendation. -Deborah Pesicka, R.D., registered dietician, University Medical Center, Tucson ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.geocities.com/medcin/calcium.html <http://www.geocities.com/medcin/calcium.html> Another source, an MD http://www.askapot.com/prod_info/calcium.htm <http://www.askapot.com/prod_info/calcium.htm> A nutritional supplement store ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.myhealthylife.com/myhealthylife/Tips/May01Tip2.asp <http://www.myhealthylife.com/myhealthylife/Tips/May01Tip2.asp> Do I need a special supplement if I'm over 65 years old? People over 65 produce less gastric acid (stomach acid). Gastric acid is necessary for the absorption of most forms of calcium. If you do not have adequate gastric acid in your stomach, it is recommended that you consider taking a calcium citrate supplement. Take this supplement between meals. What if I'm taking medication that decreases the production of gastric acid? Again, calcium citrate is a good supplement for you. Take between meals. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Some relevant studies from the NIH position paper on osteoporosis and optimum calcium supplementation http://www.nlm.nih.gov/pubs/cbm/calcium.html <http://www.nlm.nih.gov/pubs/cbm/calcium.html> : JJB. Nutritional biochemistry of calcium and phosphorus. J Nutr Biochem 1991 Jun;2(6):300-7. Brennan MJ, Duncan WE, Wartofsky L, VM, Wray HL. In vitro dissolution of calcium carbonate preparations. Calcif Tissue Int 1991 Nov;49(5):308-12. Comment in: Calcif Tissue Int 1992 Feb; 50 (2):197. Bronner F. Nutrient bioavailability, with special reference to calcium. J Nutr 1993 May;123(5):797-802. P. Calcium absorption and calcium bioavailability. J Intern Med 1992 Feb;231(2):161-8. Heaney RP, Recker RR, Weaver CM. Absorbability of calcium sources: the limited role of solubility. Calcif Tissue Int 1990 May;46(5):300-4. Pak CY, Avioli LV. Factors affecting absorbability of calcium from calcium salts and food. Calcif Tissue Int 1988 Aug;43(2):55-60. Schnepf M, Madrick T. The solubility of calcium from antacid tablets, calcium supplements and fortified food products. Nutr Res 1991 Sep;11(9):961-70. Shangraw RF. Factors to consider in the selection of a calcium supplement. Public Health Rep 1992 Sep-Oct;Suppl:46-50. Wabner CL, Pak CY. Modification by food of the calcium absorbability and physicochemical effects of calcium citrate. J Am Coll Nutr 1992 Oct;11(5):548-52. Weaver CM. Calcium bioavailability and its relation to osteoporosis. Proc Soc Exp Biol Med 1992 Jun;200(2):157-60. Whiting SJ, Pluhator MM. Comparison of in vitro and in vivo tests for determination of availability of calcium from calcium carbonate tablets. J Am Coll Nutr 1992 Oct;11(5):553-60. Wood RJ, Serfaty Lacrosniere C. Gastric acidity, atrophic gastritis, and calcium absorption. Nutr Rev 1992 Feb;50(2):33-40. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 Let me say this info came from Z who's a RNYer. But the info is wholesome. Also.. the big thing to note relating to this discussion is that CARBONATE should be taken with meals, and CITRATE absorbs best without as much gastric acid...so it should be taken on an empty stomach. So take your Citrate in the morning before breakfast and at bedtime and chew your carbonate (viative and tums) during the day --Kym Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 Let me say this info came from Z who's a RNYer. But the info is wholesome. Also.. the big thing to note relating to this discussion is that CARBONATE should be taken with meals, and CITRATE absorbs best without as much gastric acid...so it should be taken on an empty stomach. So take your Citrate in the morning before breakfast and at bedtime and chew your carbonate (viative and tums) during the day --Kym Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 > Here's everything you could want to know. Yes Calcium Carbonate > is " cheaper " but citrate is almost 3 times as bio available. Kym, This information you have posted is old. Some of the science is weak and only someone who is trained to evaluate the validity of research would be able to determine what parts of the information are valid and which are not. That is why even I, a physician, will tell everyone to listen to Dr.K and Dr.Z and do what they say. They have been saying CsCO3 is fine and to take it with meals. Personally, I have begun flooding my digestive tract with calcium via both foods and supplements in the hope that some of it is absorbed. lol Marta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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