Guest guest Posted May 28, 2004 Report Share Posted May 28, 2004 In a message dated 5/28/2004 5:13:11 PM Central Standard Time, mjs93311@... writes: Well, in spite of my religious preoccupation with calcium, my PTH is high, over 100. My calcium I am not worried about even though it is 0.1 below the normal range. Close enough. So, I propose to start taking my calcium four times or even five times each day. Ugh. I will probably have diarrhea from so much calcium, lol. Marta who by the way, has a folate level about four or five times normal so will stop the extra folate. _______________________________ Maybe switch to all calcium citrate? The viactives don't seem to be cutting it. in Bama VBG 1982 (lost from 433lbs to 270's) VBG -RNY1996 revision(Lost from 343 to 299) RNY-DS revision Dec 2002 -down 137 lbs (377.7 to 240 and still going) Homepage address- _http://hometown.aol.com/mdl1031/myhomepage/profile.html_ (http://hometown.aol.com/mdl1031/myhomepage/profile.html) Many thanks to Dr. K willing to take on a 3rd timer....LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2004 Report Share Posted May 28, 2004 > In a message dated 5/28/2004 5:13:11 PM Central Standard Time, > mjs93311@y... writes: > > Well, in spite of my religious preoccupation with calcium, my PTH is > high, over 100. My calcium I am not worried about even though it is > 0.1 below the normal range. Close enough. So, I propose to start > taking my calcium four times or even five times each day. Ugh. I > ************************************ thats what i was asking about. i take viactives and im told to switch to citrate. this is by people on the main list. i dont want to wait to see if i have a problem- i want to avoid it. i just dont see how it matters if it is citrate or carbonate. learn something new everyday vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2004 Report Share Posted May 28, 2004 > Maybe switch to all calcium citrate? The viactives don't seem to be cutting > it. > in Bama Mel, I don't use viactives as my main source of calcium. I quit taking the citrate because they were freaking horse pills and a couple times I got one stuck in my throat and nearly choked. Figgered a slow death was better than a quick one, lol. I barely started taking viactives again a couple weeks ago. You may recall that I use multiple sources for my calcium. What has changed the past few months, though, is that I am busy and eating less calcium containing foods which I think is my main problem right now. ALso I started drinking tea non-stop which we know interferes with calcium absorption. Sigh. Now what am I supposed to drink? Really, I mean it. I am addicted to sipping and hate herbal tea. So, I just bought a bunch of cottage cheese and tapioca pudding and rice pudding. Boy, am I ever going to be eating well! lol Plus, I will start drinking milk, fat free. Marta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2004 Report Share Posted May 28, 2004 In a message dated 5/28/2004 9:22:23 PM Central Standard Time, mjs93311@... writes: ALso I started drinking tea non-stop which we know interferes with calcium absorption. Sigh. Now what am I supposed to drink? Really, I mean it. I am addicted to sipping and hate herbal tea. __________________________ there's your answer...LOL.And water(yuck!)Can you not find the chewable citrate? Caltrate has a brand. in Bama VBG 1982 (lost from 433lbs to 270's) VBG -RNY1996 revision(Lost from 343 to 299) RNY-DS revision Dec 2002 -down 137 lbs (377.7 to 240 and still going) Homepage address- _http://hometown.aol.com/mdl1031/myhomepage/profile.html_ (http://hometown.aol.com/mdl1031/myhomepage/profile.html) Many thanks to Dr. K willing to take on a 3rd timer....LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2004 Report Share Posted May 28, 2004 Marta, Calcium gives you dairrhea? Since upping my calcium it tends to plug me up if I am not careful to get enough water during the day. Huh. in WA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2004 Report Share Posted May 29, 2004 > You've been busy...so I just wanted to remind you to get that skin > exposed to the sun. > > Hugs > Jo Well, my vit D is normal and I am wearing sunblock due to a middle- age crisis. Apparently, enough light is getting through. It is 20.5 (8.9-46.7 is the normal range). I wonder if it needs to be any higher? My copper is normal and my magnesium which was low before surgery is .1 over normal, so it is okay. I take mostly Kirkland calcium (carbonate) which has magnesium, zinc, copper and manganese in it. I take it morning and night and in between take Viactiv and Tums, etc. I will increase my dietary calcium since I previously ate more calcium-containing foods and had better labs at my one year. Maybe that will help. Meanwhile, I have no symptoms, OF COURSE! Like Dee, lol, except that I am full of fear of ending up like her, so will learn from her and be very pro-active in taking care of this problem before it becomes a problem. Gee, I must be tired, that sounds weird. Also, I await Dr.K's input regarding my labs. Some are still pending, though. Honestly, I have been very good about my supplements and that is one reason I am so surprised and concerned about the abnormalities. Marta hoping Dee fully recovers from the pain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2004 Report Share Posted May 29, 2004 Can you not find the chewable > citrate? Caltrate has a brand. > in Bama Mel, I am not convinced that changing to the citrate form will actually make much of a difference. I probably need to stop the tea, sigh. Marta who washes down her viactiv with tea, sob! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2004 Report Share Posted May 29, 2004 In a message dated 5/29/2004 3:29:37 AM Central Standard Time, mjs93311@... writes: I will increase my dietary calcium since I previously ate more calcium-containing foods and had better labs at my one year. Maybe that will help. Meanwhile, I have no symptoms, OF COURSE! Like Dee, lol, except that I am full of fear of ending up like her, so will learn from her and be very pro-active in taking care of this problem before it becomes a problem. Gee, I must be tired, that sounds weird. __________________________ Marta, Just remember, I had no symptoms when mine was low except until I ended up with spinal compression fractures. Of course these are now contributing to the bones spurs....Oh, And I was talking to someone the other day and wondered if higher calcium levels will make the spurs worse? Banish the thought! Anyway despite the fact that I was what? 33 yo with spinal fractures, Noone ever did a dexa scan! Just told me it was expensive and insurance wouldn't cover it because I was so young. Didn't think it was necessary. Then when the PTH was sky high pre op none thought of the calcium as the culprit. Well, NOW I know why, but then all they did was scare me and run me through needless tests. My blood calcium was low(2 or 3 tenths of a point) but I started caltrate once a day. My pth was normal so I assume I'm ok otherwise. in Bama VBG 1982 (lost from 433lbs to 270's) VBG -RNY1996 revision(Lost from 343 to 299) RNY-DS revision Dec 2002 -down 137 lbs (377.7 to 240 and still going) Homepage address- _http://hometown.aol.com/mdl1031/myhomepage/profile.html_ (http://hometown.aol.com/mdl1031/myhomepage/profile.html) Many thanks to Dr. K willing to take on a 3rd timer....LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2004 Report Share Posted May 29, 2004 > Marta, > Just remember, I had no symptoms when mine was low except until I ended up > with spinal compression fractures. That is my point, there are no symptoms. Scary, huh? > My blood calcium was low(2 or 3 tenths of a point) but I started caltrate > once a day. My pth was normal so I assume I'm ok otherwise. Mel, no way was it that low! Your heart would stop. Marta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2004 Report Share Posted May 29, 2004 In a message dated 5/29/2004 12:11:53 PM Central Standard Time, mjs93311@... writes: My blood calcium was low(2 or 3 tenths of a point) but I started caltrate > once a day. My pth was normal so I assume I'm ok otherwise. Mel, no way was it that low! Your heart would stop. ____________________________________- Hundredths?...LOL? I can't remeber how it was measured...I thought it was like something point something and it was (example) if it was supposed to be 8.7..Mine was 8.6... isn't that tenths?(I always cheated on the labs with the reference ranges for most....LOL.) in Bama VBG 1982 (lost from 433lbs to 270's) VBG -RNY1996 revision(Lost from 343 to 299) RNY-DS revision Dec 2002 -down 137 lbs (377.7 to 240 and still going) Homepage address- _http://hometown.aol.com/mdl1031/myhomepage/profile.html_ (http://hometown.aol.com/mdl1031/myhomepage/profile.html) Many thanks to Dr. K willing to take on a 3rd timer....LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2004 Report Share Posted May 29, 2004 In a message dated 5/29/2004 12:11:53 PM Central Standard Time, mjs93311@... writes: My blood calcium was low(2 or 3 tenths of a point) but I started caltrate > once a day. My pth was normal so I assume I'm ok otherwise. Mel, no way was it that low! Your heart would stop. ____________________________________- Hundredths?...LOL? I can't remeber how it was measured...I thought it was like something point something and it was (example) if it was supposed to be 8.7..Mine was 8.6... isn't that tenths?(I always cheated on the labs with the reference ranges for most....LOL.) in Bama VBG 1982 (lost from 433lbs to 270's) VBG -RNY1996 revision(Lost from 343 to 299) RNY-DS revision Dec 2002 -down 137 lbs (377.7 to 240 and still going) Homepage address- _http://hometown.aol.com/mdl1031/myhomepage/profile.html_ (http://hometown.aol.com/mdl1031/myhomepage/profile.html) Many thanks to Dr. K willing to take on a 3rd timer....LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2004 Report Share Posted May 29, 2004 In a message dated 5/29/2004 12:11:53 PM Central Standard Time, mjs93311@... writes: My blood calcium was low(2 or 3 tenths of a point) but I started caltrate > once a day. My pth was normal so I assume I'm ok otherwise. Mel, no way was it that low! Your heart would stop. ____________________________________- Hundredths?...LOL? I can't remeber how it was measured...I thought it was like something point something and it was (example) if it was supposed to be 8.7..Mine was 8.6... isn't that tenths?(I always cheated on the labs with the reference ranges for most....LOL.) in Bama VBG 1982 (lost from 433lbs to 270's) VBG -RNY1996 revision(Lost from 343 to 299) RNY-DS revision Dec 2002 -down 137 lbs (377.7 to 240 and still going) Homepage address- _http://hometown.aol.com/mdl1031/myhomepage/profile.html_ (http://hometown.aol.com/mdl1031/myhomepage/profile.html) Many thanks to Dr. K willing to take on a 3rd timer....LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2004 Report Share Posted May 29, 2004 In a message dated 5/29/2004 7:13:26 PM Central Standard Time, mjs93311@... writes: Mel, whew! I thought you meant that your total calcium was 0.2 or 0.3! Mine was 8.6, lowest range of normal is indeed 8.7. That is why I am not worried about my calcium, especially since my ionized calcium is no doubt normal. I am just worried about WHERE it is coming FROM, ie my bones. Marta ______________________________________ LOL....I was wondering...Been a long time since math and algebra, but I was pretty sure it was a 10th of a point. Nope Even I would know to panic if mine was that low...Hell, there'd be no panic, I'd have been long dead. Do you sneeze sometimes when you get full? I've been wondering if It was just a weird thing with me or what....Doesn't bother me too much, but I was just thinking it was weird...My sister thought I was crazy when I told her until she ate a few meals with me, seems to happen more when I don't drink with the food.Have you ever heard of anything like that? I used to hiccup really, really loud when I'd eat a lot before my revision. I don't mean, little graceful hiccups but those loud enough to hear across a crowded restauraunt...LOL. That's not a problem any more(At least I can muffle a sneeze...LOL. BTW the rectal spasms have eased some....I wonder if the tail bone pain is related? Maybe pressure on some nerve maybe, or would that be to low to affect the colon? I figured it was because my tailbone fat is disappearing!!!~ in Bama VBG 1982 (lost from 433lbs to 270's) VBG -RNY1996 revision(Lost from 343 to 299) RNY-DS revision Dec 2002 -down 137 lbs (377.7 to 240 and still going) Homepage address- _http://hometown.aol.com/mdl1031/myhomepage/profile.html_ (http://hometown.aol.com/mdl1031/myhomepage/profile.html) Many thanks to Dr. K willing to take on a 3rd timer....LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2004 Report Share Posted May 29, 2004 In a message dated 5/29/2004 7:13:26 PM Central Standard Time, mjs93311@... writes: Mel, whew! I thought you meant that your total calcium was 0.2 or 0.3! Mine was 8.6, lowest range of normal is indeed 8.7. That is why I am not worried about my calcium, especially since my ionized calcium is no doubt normal. I am just worried about WHERE it is coming FROM, ie my bones. Marta ______________________________________ LOL....I was wondering...Been a long time since math and algebra, but I was pretty sure it was a 10th of a point. Nope Even I would know to panic if mine was that low...Hell, there'd be no panic, I'd have been long dead. Do you sneeze sometimes when you get full? I've been wondering if It was just a weird thing with me or what....Doesn't bother me too much, but I was just thinking it was weird...My sister thought I was crazy when I told her until she ate a few meals with me, seems to happen more when I don't drink with the food.Have you ever heard of anything like that? I used to hiccup really, really loud when I'd eat a lot before my revision. I don't mean, little graceful hiccups but those loud enough to hear across a crowded restauraunt...LOL. That's not a problem any more(At least I can muffle a sneeze...LOL. BTW the rectal spasms have eased some....I wonder if the tail bone pain is related? Maybe pressure on some nerve maybe, or would that be to low to affect the colon? I figured it was because my tailbone fat is disappearing!!!~ in Bama VBG 1982 (lost from 433lbs to 270's) VBG -RNY1996 revision(Lost from 343 to 299) RNY-DS revision Dec 2002 -down 137 lbs (377.7 to 240 and still going) Homepage address- _http://hometown.aol.com/mdl1031/myhomepage/profile.html_ (http://hometown.aol.com/mdl1031/myhomepage/profile.html) Many thanks to Dr. K willing to take on a 3rd timer....LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2004 Report Share Posted May 29, 2004 > Mel, no way was it that low! Your heart would stop. > > > ____________________________________- > Hundredths?...LOL? I can't remeber how it was measured...I thought it was > like something point something and it was (example) if it was supposed to be > 8.7..Mine was 8.6... Mel, whew! I thought you meant that your total calcium was 0.2 or 0.3! Mine was 8.6, lowest range of normal is indeed 8.7. That is why I am not worried about my calcium, especially since my ionized calcium is no doubt normal. I am just worried about WHERE it is coming FROM, ie my bones. Marta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2004 Report Share Posted May 29, 2004 > Mel, no way was it that low! Your heart would stop. > > > ____________________________________- > Hundredths?...LOL? I can't remeber how it was measured...I thought it was > like something point something and it was (example) if it was supposed to be > 8.7..Mine was 8.6... Mel, whew! I thought you meant that your total calcium was 0.2 or 0.3! Mine was 8.6, lowest range of normal is indeed 8.7. That is why I am not worried about my calcium, especially since my ionized calcium is no doubt normal. I am just worried about WHERE it is coming FROM, ie my bones. Marta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 got theses today in the mail ast 232 alt340 hcv 2b tsh 6.77(i am on synthroid for hypothyroidism) mpv 12.7 high ok here is the results fron the liver biopsy i had on dec 7,97 chronic hepatitis marked periportal and lobular chrnoic piecemeal necrosis, focal necrotic hepatocytes early cirrohitic process the findings correspond th chronic hepatitis, grade 3 stage 3-4 so what does that mean,,,i knew i had hep c for 20 yrs, but this liver biopsy doesnt sound gd,,,,,as i told the grp i would post my results when i got the, i value any opinion its allways helpfull to hear from someone who knows more than i do. p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 Hi Joyceann,, YOUR biopsy sounds just like mine did and I WAS able to successfully treat and get rid of my virus,, so IF I CAN DO IT,, so can you!!! You DO have significant damage to the liver from this virus, but you can still stop it and the liver CAN recover,, you are stage 3-4 with early cirrhosis which is exactly where I was when I treated,, and I too was grade 3 inflammation which means its IS moving along munchin on your liver,, so its really important to treat now,, before you reach full cirrhosis.... Your alt and ast are high but not as bad as many ppl,, those numbers should come come with treatment too,, As I said,, you really do need to think about treating soon with this biopsy report,, its the only way to stop it,, We will be here for ya and will help you all the way through your treatment if you want us to,, it will be ok,, hugs, jax joyceann wrote: got theses today in the mail ast 232 alt340 hcv 2b tsh 6.77(i am on synthroid for hypothyroidism) mpv 12.7 high ok here is the results fron the liver biopsy i had on dec 7,97 chronic hepatitis marked periportal and lobular chrnoic piecemeal necrosis, focal necrotic hepatocytes early cirrohitic process the findings correspond th chronic hepatitis, grade 3 stage 3-4so what does that mean,,,i knew i had hep c for 20 yrs, but this liver biopsy doesnt sound gd,,,,,as i told the grp i would post my results when i got the, i value any opinion its allways helpfull to hear from someone who knows more than i do.pJackie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 And you’re 2B like me which is “great.” Treatment is just 26 weeks. I do #15 this Friday so I’m moving closer to that #26 and you can do it too. The anxiety over starting was a lot worse than the actual treatment!! Dorothy P.S. The last time I was at my doctor’s office, there were about 6 big guys in there and all they did was b*tch about how nauseous they’ve been, etc. etc. I just listened silently. I wanted to say……….hey, I had AWFUL cramps and heavy periods for years……like clockwork every month! I lived through it. I’ve never given birth, but there’s something else we women do – of course, there’s some screaming involved in that J I’m not knocking the guys…..my point is that you’re a woman and you are strong like every other one of us. You’ll sail right through, Joyceann. Like Jackie said….if she can do it……..you can do it. If I can do it….you can do it. From: Hepatitis_C_Central [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On Behalf Of Jackie on Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 6:23 PM To: Hepatitis_C_Central Subject: Re: my labs Hi Joyceann,, YOUR biopsy sounds just like mine did and I WAS able to successfully treat and get rid of my virus,, so IF I CAN DO IT,, so can you!!! You DO have significant damage to the liver from this virus, but you can still stop it and the liver CAN recover,, you are stage 3-4 with early cirrhosis which is exactly where I was when I treated,, and I too was grade 3 inflammation which means its IS moving along munchin on your liver,, so its really important to treat now,, before you reach full cirrhosis.... Your alt and ast are high but not as bad as many ppl,, those numbers should come come with treatment too,, As I said,, you really do need to think about treating soon with this biopsy report,, its the only way to stop it,, We will be here for ya and will help you all the way through your treatment if you want us to,, it will be ok,, hugs, jax joyceann <mepurplegee> wrote: got theses today in the mail ast 232 alt340 hcv 2b tsh 6.77(i am on synthroid for hypothyroidism) mpv 12.7 high ok here is the results fron the liver biopsy i had on dec 7,97 chronic hepatitis marked periportal and lobular chrnoic piecemeal necrosis, focal necrotic hepatocytes early cirrohitic process the findings correspond th chronic hepatitis, grade 3 stage 3-4 so what does that mean,,,i knew i had hep c for 20 yrs, but this liver biopsy doesnt sound gd,,,,,as i told the grp i would post my results when i got the, i value any opinion its allways helpfull to hear from someone who knows more than i do. p Jackie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 And you’re 2B like me which is “great.” Treatment is just 26 weeks. I do #15 this Friday so I’m moving closer to that #26 and you can do it too. The anxiety over starting was a lot worse than the actual treatment!! Dorothy P.S. The last time I was at my doctor’s office, there were about 6 big guys in there and all they did was b*tch about how nauseous they’ve been, etc. etc. I just listened silently. I wanted to say……….hey, I had AWFUL cramps and heavy periods for years……like clockwork every month! I lived through it. I’ve never given birth, but there’s something else we women do – of course, there’s some screaming involved in that J I’m not knocking the guys…..my point is that you’re a woman and you are strong like every other one of us. You’ll sail right through, Joyceann. Like Jackie said….if she can do it……..you can do it. If I can do it….you can do it. From: Hepatitis_C_Central [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On Behalf Of Jackie on Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 6:23 PM To: Hepatitis_C_Central Subject: Re: my labs Hi Joyceann,, YOUR biopsy sounds just like mine did and I WAS able to successfully treat and get rid of my virus,, so IF I CAN DO IT,, so can you!!! You DO have significant damage to the liver from this virus, but you can still stop it and the liver CAN recover,, you are stage 3-4 with early cirrhosis which is exactly where I was when I treated,, and I too was grade 3 inflammation which means its IS moving along munchin on your liver,, so its really important to treat now,, before you reach full cirrhosis.... Your alt and ast are high but not as bad as many ppl,, those numbers should come come with treatment too,, As I said,, you really do need to think about treating soon with this biopsy report,, its the only way to stop it,, We will be here for ya and will help you all the way through your treatment if you want us to,, it will be ok,, hugs, jax joyceann <mepurplegee> wrote: got theses today in the mail ast 232 alt340 hcv 2b tsh 6.77(i am on synthroid for hypothyroidism) mpv 12.7 high ok here is the results fron the liver biopsy i had on dec 7,97 chronic hepatitis marked periportal and lobular chrnoic piecemeal necrosis, focal necrotic hepatocytes early cirrohitic process the findings correspond th chronic hepatitis, grade 3 stage 3-4 so what does that mean,,,i knew i had hep c for 20 yrs, but this liver biopsy doesnt sound gd,,,,,as i told the grp i would post my results when i got the, i value any opinion its allways helpfull to hear from someone who knows more than i do. p Jackie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 -yes ill be fine p.s the biopsy was 2007 typo i put 97 im bad ,,,,joyce- - In Hepatitis_C_Central , " joyceann " wrote: > > got theses today in the mail ast 232 alt340 hcv 2b tsh 6.77(i am > on synthroid for hypothyroidism) mpv 12.7 high ok here is the > results fron the liver biopsy i had on dec 7,97 chronic hepatitis > marked periportal and lobular chrnoic piecemeal necrosis, focal > necrotic hepatocytes early cirrohitic process > the findings correspond th chronic hepatitis, grade 3 stage 3-4 > > so what does that mean,,,i knew i had hep c for 20 yrs, but this liver > biopsy doesnt sound gd,,,,,as i told the grp i would post my results > when i got the, i value any opinion its allways helpfull to hear from > someone who knows more than i do. > p > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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