Guest guest Posted February 27, 2003 Report Share Posted February 27, 2003 I'm really not trying to keep " the diet " thing going, but I'm working on a theme for college about genetically modified food and came across this. It discussed a Lancet study and epilepsy, which we've also been talking about recently. It does appear (at least from this article) that gf can indeed prevent epilepsy in some people. I copied only a fraction of the entire article and included the link if anyone wants to read further. Most of it talks only about the genetic history of civilization and gluten's evolution in the diet. (Zzzzz, lol) Debi http://www.celiac.com/cgi-bin/webc.cgi/st_prod.html? p_prodid=78 & p_catid= & sid=91hH9H0lEHeIEJ5-56103139725.11 Why So Many Intolerant To Gluten ? - by Luigi Greco, D.C.H., M.Sc. (MCH), M.D., Department of Pediatrics, University of Naples 06/30/1995 We have recently reported on Lancet (1) a consistent cohort of patients affected by drug-resistant epilepsy with cerebral calcifications, half of which were cured by a gluten-free diet. All had an atrophic jejunal mucosa, which recovered on a gluten free diet. Gluten intolerance is now a recognized cause of brain calcifications and epilepsy, of dementia, of psychiatric disturbances: many researchers believe that, in genetically predisposed subjects, gluten is not healthy for the brain function (2). This is just too much. Having had over 25 years of variegated experience with gluten intolerance I find hard to imagine that the single most common food intolerance to the single most diffuse staple food in our environment might provoke such a complexity of severe adverse immune-mediated reactions in any part of the human body and function. The list is endless, but malignancies, adverse pregnancy outcome and impaired brain function are indeed complications above the tolerable threshold of this food intolerance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2003 Report Share Posted February 27, 2003 Signs that a child might be successful on " the diet " are hyperactivity, OCD issues, seizures and epilepsy, all the excessive stimming. Because the gut is leaking digestive parts into the blood and going to the brain, the issues are not all digestive. They're medical (like seizures) and cognitive. A speaker on sulfation in autism at a biomedical conference I attended last year said she put her Dad on GFCF. He'd been declining rapidly with Alzheimer's, and she realized the sulfation issues in that disease, and he lived w/ her. So she put him on the gfcf diet, gave him 2 epsom salt baths a day, and says that while he gained nothing new, he did not decline/deteriorate any more for 4.5 years. Owens is the speaker's name. > I'm really not trying to keep " the diet " thing going, but I'm working > on a theme for college about genetically modified food and came > across this. It discussed a Lancet study and epilepsy, which we've > also been talking about recently. It does appear (at least from this > article) that gf can indeed prevent epilepsy in some people. I > copied only a fraction of the entire article and included the link if > anyone wants to read further. Most of it talks only about the genetic > history of civilization and gluten's evolution in the diet. (Zzzzz, > lol) > > Debi > > http://www.celiac.com/cgi-bin/webc.cgi/st_prod.html? > p_prodid=78 & p_catid= & sid=91hH9H0lEHeIEJ5-56103139725.11 > > > > Why So Many Intolerant To Gluten ? - by Luigi Greco, D.C.H., M.Sc. > (MCH), M.D., Department of Pediatrics, University of Naples > 06/30/1995 > > > We have recently reported on Lancet (1) a consistent cohort of > patients affected by drug-resistant epilepsy with cerebral > calcifications, half of which were cured by a gluten-free diet. All > had an atrophic jejunal mucosa, which recovered on a gluten free > diet. Gluten intolerance is now a recognized cause of brain > calcifications and epilepsy, of dementia, of psychiatric > disturbances: many researchers believe that, in genetically > predisposed subjects, gluten is not healthy for the brain function > (2). > > This is just too much. > > Having had over 25 years of variegated experience with gluten > intolerance I find hard to imagine that the single most common food > intolerance to the single most diffuse staple food in our environment > might provoke such a complexity of severe adverse immune-mediated > reactions in any part of the human body and function. The list is > endless, but malignancies, adverse pregnancy outcome and impaired > brain function are indeed complications above the tolerable threshold > of this food intolerance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2003 Report Share Posted February 27, 2003 I also read in an article (could have been this one) that magnesium helps celiacs after the gluten has been removed. That's probably why the Epsom Salts baths helped. I find it helps my NT daughter sleep through the night better. It's just so fascinating. Debi So she put him on the gfcf diet, > gave him 2 epsom salt baths a day, and says that while he gained > nothing new, he did not decline/deteriorate any more for 4.5 years. > Owens is the speaker's name. > > > > > > I'm really not trying to keep " the diet " thing going, but I'm > working > > on a theme for college about genetically modified food and came > > across this. It discussed a Lancet study and epilepsy, which we've > > also been talking about recently. It does appear (at least from > this > > article) that gf can indeed prevent epilepsy in some people. I > > copied only a fraction of the entire article and included the link > if > > anyone wants to read further. Most of it talks only about the > genetic > > history of civilization and gluten's evolution in the diet. (Zzzzz, > > lol) > > > > Debi > > > > http://www.celiac.com/cgi-bin/webc.cgi/st_prod.html? > > p_prodid=78 & p_catid= & sid=91hH9H0lEHeIEJ5-56103139725.11 > > > > > > > > Why So Many Intolerant To Gluten ? - by Luigi Greco, D.C.H., M.Sc. > > (MCH), M.D., Department of Pediatrics, University of Naples > > 06/30/1995 > > > > > > We have recently reported on Lancet (1) a consistent cohort of > > patients affected by drug-resistant epilepsy with cerebral > > calcifications, half of which were cured by a gluten-free diet. All > > had an atrophic jejunal mucosa, which recovered on a gluten free > > diet. Gluten intolerance is now a recognized cause of brain > > calcifications and epilepsy, of dementia, of psychiatric > > disturbances: many researchers believe that, in genetically > > predisposed subjects, gluten is not healthy for the brain function > > (2). > > > > This is just too much. > > > > Having had over 25 years of variegated experience with gluten > > intolerance I find hard to imagine that the single most common food > > intolerance to the single most diffuse staple food in our > environment > > might provoke such a complexity of severe adverse immune-mediated > > reactions in any part of the human body and function. The list is > > endless, but malignancies, adverse pregnancy outcome and impaired > > brain function are indeed complications above the tolerable > threshold > > of this food intolerance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 Did you see any succuss with it Sondra? I have heard go thing about it, never needed to do it with Abby though. Pennie Abby's mom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 It is so hard to watch children suffer, they dont deserve that. Talk to you later sondra Pennie Abby's mom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 Pennie is this to be the one with the oils added to the food. When I to be to worked in a developmental center much years ago a young man with major seizure disorder and profound MR was to be non verbal was on this diet and it to be to helped him some. It was a word that to be I think started with K like maybe ketogenic diet. Sondra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 Pennie, No I to not be to used it on self but have been to know of the words you to be sharing on special diet with seizure children's. He to be one of the children's I to be to seen on the diet and he did be to have less seizures, although he had multiple types from full seizure where the whole body to be involved and the boy would be to go unconscious(grand-mal), and then other times he to be walking around and hims body would be to jerk him so hard to the floor. I to be to breaked my heart for this young boy to be to have this. He to had to wear helmet to protect hims head, but hims chin and face with so many scars from the jerk seizures. He was such a cute little boy too. But I to be partial to special needs children as they to be such strong children's as many are to be so much challenged but still full of smiles.I to loved working there. I to often say they to be the children of my heart. Sondra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 Good for you Penny, i am proud. LOL Pennie Abby's Mom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 Yes, it IS fascinating. I wish I had a medical degree. No, wait, I wish my kids came with one of those " do not remove under penalty of law " tags that explained all the puzzle pieces. Here's an article on sulfation: http://www.newtreatments.org/fromweb/sulfur.html And you'll be so proud of me. *grin* Last night, at my mothers of multiples meeting, a mom w/ boy/girl twins where the boy is autistic approached me with some behavioral questions. I know they're not doing the diet, and I actually suggested she research something else first! > > > I'm really not trying to keep " the diet " thing going, but I'm > > working > > > on a theme for college about genetically modified food and came > > > across this. It discussed a Lancet study and epilepsy, which > we've > > > also been talking about recently. It does appear (at least from > > this > > > article) that gf can indeed prevent epilepsy in some people. I > > > copied only a fraction of the entire article and included the > link > > if > > > anyone wants to read further. Most of it talks only about the > > genetic > > > history of civilization and gluten's evolution in the diet. > (Zzzzz, > > > lol) > > > > > > Debi > > > > > > http://www.celiac.com/cgi-bin/webc.cgi/st_prod.html? > > > p_prodid=78 & p_catid= & sid=91hH9H0lEHeIEJ5-56103139725.11 > > > > > > > > > > > > Why So Many Intolerant To Gluten ? - by Luigi Greco, D.C.H., M.Sc. > > > (MCH), M.D., Department of Pediatrics, University of Naples > > > 06/30/1995 > > > > > > > > > We have recently reported on Lancet (1) a consistent cohort of > > > patients affected by drug-resistant epilepsy with cerebral > > > calcifications, half of which were cured by a gluten-free diet. > All > > > had an atrophic jejunal mucosa, which recovered on a gluten free > > > diet. Gluten intolerance is now a recognized cause of brain > > > calcifications and epilepsy, of dementia, of psychiatric > > > disturbances: many researchers believe that, in genetically > > > predisposed subjects, gluten is not healthy for the brain > function > > > (2). > > > > > > This is just too much. > > > > > > Having had over 25 years of variegated experience with gluten > > > intolerance I find hard to imagine that the single most common > food > > > intolerance to the single most diffuse staple food in our > > environment > > > might provoke such a complexity of severe adverse immune- mediated > > > reactions in any part of the human body and function. The list is > > > endless, but malignancies, adverse pregnancy outcome and impaired > > > brain function are indeed complications above the tolerable > > threshold > > > of this food intolerance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 Sondra, you are correct on the name of the ketogenic diet. I think the Mayo Center discovered it. I did speak on the phone with a woman new to my area whose daughter was using the diet with great success. She explained the diet to me as 80% fat and the foods had to be measured to the gram. She also said that her daughter went from 17 seizures per hour with medication to no seizures in several months without meds. She told me if her daughter could make it 6 more months they could begin phasing back to a regular eating pattern and chances are the seizures would never return again. Her daughter was six at the time and the daughter was so angry at being on the diet her mother literally had to lock all the cabinets and chain the refrig. Her major problem was trying to get an aid for her daughter at school because the little girl would go dig food out of the trash at lunch to eat. It was horrible all around, the daughter could not realize the diet was literally saving her life and the mother could not stop the little girls misery or all the gains would have gone right out the window. Debi > Pennie, No I to not be to used it on self but have been to know of the words > you to be sharing on special diet with seizure children's. He to be one of > the children's I to be to seen on the diet and he did be to have less > seizures, although he had multiple types from full seizure where the whole > body to be involved and the boy would be to go unconscious(grand- mal), and > then other times he to be walking around and hims body would be to jerk him > so hard to the floor. I to be to breaked my heart for this young boy to be > to have this. He to had to wear helmet to protect hims head, but hims chin > and face with so many scars from the jerk seizures. He was such a cute > little boy too. But I to be partial to special needs children as they to be > such strong children's as many are to be so much challenged but still full > of smiles.I to loved working there. I to often say they to be the children > of my heart. > Sondra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 Sondra, you are correct on the name of the ketogenic diet. I think the Mayo Center discovered it. I did speak on the phone with a woman new to my area whose daughter was using the diet with great success. She explained the diet to me as 80% fat and the foods had to be measured to the gram. She also said that her daughter went from 17 seizures per hour with medication to no seizures in several months without meds. She told me if her daughter could make it 6 more months they could begin phasing back to a regular eating pattern and chances are the seizures would never return again. Her daughter was six at the time and the daughter was so angry at being on the diet her mother literally had to lock all the cabinets and chain the refrig. Her major problem was trying to get an aid for her daughter at school because the little girl would go dig food out of the trash at lunch to eat. It was horrible all around, the daughter could not realize the diet was literally saving her life and the mother could not stop the little girls misery or all the gains would have gone right out the window. Debi > Pennie, No I to not be to used it on self but have been to know of the words > you to be sharing on special diet with seizure children's. He to be one of > the children's I to be to seen on the diet and he did be to have less > seizures, although he had multiple types from full seizure where the whole > body to be involved and the boy would be to go unconscious(grand- mal), and > then other times he to be walking around and hims body would be to jerk him > so hard to the floor. I to be to breaked my heart for this young boy to be > to have this. He to had to wear helmet to protect hims head, but hims chin > and face with so many scars from the jerk seizures. He was such a cute > little boy too. But I to be partial to special needs children as they to be > such strong children's as many are to be so much challenged but still full > of smiles.I to loved working there. I to often say they to be the children > of my heart. > Sondra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 Sondra, you are correct on the name of the ketogenic diet. I think the Mayo Center discovered it. I did speak on the phone with a woman new to my area whose daughter was using the diet with great success. She explained the diet to me as 80% fat and the foods had to be measured to the gram. She also said that her daughter went from 17 seizures per hour with medication to no seizures in several months without meds. She told me if her daughter could make it 6 more months they could begin phasing back to a regular eating pattern and chances are the seizures would never return again. Her daughter was six at the time and the daughter was so angry at being on the diet her mother literally had to lock all the cabinets and chain the refrig. Her major problem was trying to get an aid for her daughter at school because the little girl would go dig food out of the trash at lunch to eat. It was horrible all around, the daughter could not realize the diet was literally saving her life and the mother could not stop the little girls misery or all the gains would have gone right out the window. Debi > Pennie, No I to not be to used it on self but have been to know of the words > you to be sharing on special diet with seizure children's. He to be one of > the children's I to be to seen on the diet and he did be to have less > seizures, although he had multiple types from full seizure where the whole > body to be involved and the boy would be to go unconscious(grand- mal), and > then other times he to be walking around and hims body would be to jerk him > so hard to the floor. I to be to breaked my heart for this young boy to be > to have this. He to had to wear helmet to protect hims head, but hims chin > and face with so many scars from the jerk seizures. He was such a cute > little boy too. But I to be partial to special needs children as they to be > such strong children's as many are to be so much challenged but still full > of smiles.I to loved working there. I to often say they to be the children > of my heart. > Sondra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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