Re: Re: ssdi and disability

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I have to question if my income has an impact on

whether or not my husband gets disability? Anyone

know? It is hardly fair because he earned it and I am

in the negative nearly every month...

Thoughts?

--- Jackie on wrote:

>

> yes,, I guess Im one of the very lucky ones,, I

> have my ssdi Plus my long term disability that was a

> paid medical benefit from the ambulance service I

> worked for AND my pers from my divorce from my ex

> fireman husband ( he never knew he was married,

> lol),, so yes, I can, but Im one of the very very

> lucky ones,,, my ssdi would surely put me in a much

> lower class of income if I had to rely on that

> solely,, but thank God I dont...

>

>

>

> Dorothy wrote:

> Can you live on SSDI?

>

>

> ---------------------------------

>

> From: Hepatitis_C_Central

> [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On

> Behalf Of Jackie on

> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 4:40 PM

> To: Hepatitis_C_Central

> Subject: Re: Re: ssdi and

> disability

>

>

>

>

> Same with me Sharron,, they kept denying me and

> my doc kept telling me not to give up,, that some

> idiot sitting at a desk with an 8th grade education

> was determining my case and that HE would fight with

> me all the way ,, and he did!

>

> They kept saying that I could " sort potato

> chips " or " watch TV for money " etc,, telling me to

> work at stupid things that were not even

> available,,it was awful,, and I developed an ulcer

> over all the stress and worry of this,, and finally

> , when it went before the administrative law judge,

> HE agreed with me, my doc, my rheumy, and even the

> shrink that the state sent me to that I could NOT

> work!.. and like I said in a previous post, HE , the

> judge was just appalled that they refused to take

> the word of the docs who were actually treating me

> and took the word of someone sitting at a desk that

> had never laid eyes on me who just believed that hep

> c was not a debilitating disease,, it was an awful

> time and they repeated it at 18 months,, they tried

> to send me to another doc who was over an hours

> drive away, was a chiropractor who was not required

> to read any of my past medical history,, they were

> trying to get some other doc to say that I was not

> disabled so they could stop

> my disability checks,, so I went and saw an

> attorney who told me NOT to go and see their doc,

> that I had just had my gall bladder removed and

> they'd done another biopsy of my liver and it was

> still very sick,, he told me some of the laws about

> disability that I'd never heard of that those who

> work for the government dont want us to know about

> ,, ie: if you have never had a desk job in the past

> 10 years, and you turn 50 while on disability, they

> CANNOT FORCE you to work a desk job!!! I had worked

> as a 911 paramedic ( very physical) and worked in a

> salon doing hair and nails as well as teaching the

> EMT program at the community college,, all very

> physical jobs that were done on my feet, so they

> could NOT make me 'watch TV for money " or sort

> potato chips etc,, and when I told them what I knew

> and sited the law reference to each, I was

> immediately approved with no further problems,,, but

> only after the jerk at the office who was trying to

> send me to that other doc called and

> threatened me twice,, but going and seeing this

> attorney who only handles ssdi cases was very very

> helpful to me and had I gone to see this doc, there

> is a chance that she may have said I could go back

> to work,, and let me tell you right now, there is no

> way I could work anymore... No employer would hire

> me knowing Im on morphine, medical cannabis ,

> needing to get into the hot tub several times per

> day and needing a good 14-16 hours sleep every

> day... and having serious short term memory would or

> could make for serious business problems for who

> ever would be silly enough to hire me, lol..

>

> it was a horrible time in my life,, trying to

> get my ssdi,, and after working 3 nearly full time

> jobs paying in huge amounts to soc sec,, it was

> really frustrating to fight the insane thinking that

> hcv is not a disabling disease.... Im sure that had

> I been an ILLEGAL immigrant, they'd be happy to give

> me anything I asked for, but being a LEGAL American

> citizen, they feel its ok to take all that money

> FROM me each and every month I worked and refuse to

> give it back when I needed it,, especially since the

> American Red Cross is the company responsible for my

> disease...... grrrrrrr...............

>

>

>

>

> SHARON CROSBY wrote:

> I didn't mean it like I said it. THere

> were many denials and more filed paperwork in those

> two years, it just took that long for the whole

> process to be completed.

>

> Sharon in NW Washington

> All I have seen teaches me to trust in the Creator

> for all that I have not seen. Ralph Waldo Emerson

>

> Re: ssdi and

> disability

>

>

>

> Sharon,

>

> Having an attorney fill out the paperwork and then

> having to wait for

> two (2) years for a court date are separate things.

> First, you fill

> out the required paperwork thoroughly, hopefully.

> In my experience,

> it can take anywhere from one month to six months

> before you get an

> answer on whether you get SSDI. Second, if you are

> initially denied

> SSDI, you have a right to appeal. You generally do

> this in front of

> an administrative judge. This is the part that is

> generaly two years

> from when you file. The timeframe can be a few

> months sooner or

> later, but around two years, basically.

>

> By the way, I should have placed a caveat in my

> first response, just

> because you file all of your paperwork correctly and

> thoroughly does

> not mean that your doctor, or your attorney for that

> matter, did.

> Just as in insurance work, social security could

> want something that

> the doctor thinks they have sufficiently provided

> information for,

> but SS thinks otherwise. That situation can

> sometimes take months to

> straighten out. Bottom line is, get a copy of what

> your doctor sends

> to SS and see if they have filled the paperwork out

> correctly.

> Granted, you may not know what you are looking at (I

> sure do not

> always know), but read the questions and answers and

> see if they make

> some semblence of sense. Also, make sure that the

> doctor answered

> all of the questions.

>

> The same goes with attorneys. Get a copy of your

> paperwork and check

> to see if the attorney filled out all of the forms

> thoroughly and

> correctly. You should know where you lived and

> worked for the past

> 10 years, who your doctors were in the last 10

> years, what

> medications you are taking, job duties that are

> problematic for you

> and how they relate to Hep C, etc. Further, what

> are your reasons

> for filing for SSDI, i.e., trouble with memory,

> concentrating,

> walking, talking on the phone, writing notes,

> sleeping, ordinary

> daily chores, etc. Why do these things causing you

> problems and how

> to these things relate to Hep C and why you should

> get SSDI. Social

> Security work is a specialized area. If you use an

> attorney, get one

> whose practice entails a good majority of social

> security-related

> work. Ask around and don't be afraid to check with

> more than one

> attorney. Being comfortable and confident with your

> attorney, if you

> go that route, is very important.

>

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From: Hepatitis_C_Central [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On Behalf Of Jackie on

Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007

5:35 PM

To: Hepatitis_C_Central

Subject: RE:

Re: ssdi and disability

yes,, I guess Im one of the very lucky ones,, I have

my ssdi Plus my long term disability that was a paid medical benefit from the

ambulance service I worked for AND my pers from my divorce from my ex

fireman husband ( he never knew he was married, lol),, so yes, I can, but Im

one of the very very lucky ones,,, my ssdi would surely put me in a much

lower class of income if I had to rely on that solely,, but thank God I

dont...

Dorothy

<dorvoptonline (DOT) net> wrote:

Can you live on SSDI?

From: Hepatitis_C_Central

[mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ]

On Behalf Of Jackie on

Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007

4:40 PM

To: Hepatitis_C_Central

Subject: Re:

Re: ssdi and disability

Same with me

Sharron,, they kept denying me and my doc kept telling me not to give up,,

that some idiot sitting at a desk with an 8th grade education was determining

my case and that HE would fight with me all the way ,, and he did!

They kept saying that I could " sort potato

chips " or " watch TV for money " etc,, telling me to work at

stupid things that were not even available,,it was awful,, and I developed an

ulcer over all the stress and worry of this,, and finally , when it went before

the administrative law judge, HE agreed with me, my doc, my rheumy, and even

the shrink that the state sent me to that I could NOT work!.. and like I said

in a previous post, HE , the judge was just appalled that they refused to

take the word of the docs who were actually treating me and took the word of

someone sitting at a desk that had never laid eyes on me who just believed

that hep c was not a debilitating disease,, it was an awful time and they

repeated it at 18 months,, they tried to send me to another doc who was over

an hours drive away, was a chiropractor who was not required to read any of

my past medical history,, they were trying to get some other doc to say that

I was not disabled so they could stop my disability checks,, so I went and

saw an attorney who told me NOT to go and see their doc, that I had just had

my gall bladder removed and they'd done another biopsy of my liver and it was

still very sick,, he told me some of the laws about disability that I'd never

heard of that those who work for the government dont want us to know about ,,

ie: if you have never had a desk job in the past 10 years, and you turn

50 while on disability, they CANNOT FORCE you to work a desk job!!! I

had worked as a 911 paramedic ( very physical) and worked in a salon doing

hair and nails as well as teaching the EMT program at the community college,,

all very physical jobs that were done on my feet, so they could NOT make me

'watch TV for money " or sort potato chips etc,, and when I told them

what I knew and sited the law reference to each, I was immediately approved

with no further problems,,, but only after the jerk at the office who was

trying to send me to that other doc called and threatened me twice,, but

going and seeing this attorney who only handles ssdi cases was very very helpful

to me and had I gone to see this doc, there is a chance that she may have

said I could go back to work,, and let me tell you right now, there is no way

I could work anymore... No employer would hire me knowing Im on morphine,

medical cannabis , needing to get into the hot tub several times per day and

needing a good 14-16 hours sleep every day... and having serious short term

memory would or could make for serious business problems for who ever would

be silly enough to hire me, lol..

it was a horrible time in my life,, trying to get my

ssdi,, and after working 3 nearly full time jobs paying in huge amounts to

soc sec,, it was really frustrating to fight the insane thinking that hcv is

not a disabling disease.... Im sure that had I been an ILLEGAL immigrant,

they'd be happy to give me anything I asked for, but being a LEGAL American

citizen, they feel its ok to take all that money FROM me each and every month

I worked and refuse to give it back when I needed it,, especially since the

American Red Cross is the company responsible for my disease......

grrrrrrr...............

SHARON CROSBY

<csharonxoxomsn> wrote:

I didn't mean it like I said it. THere were many denials and more

filed paperwork in those two years, it just took that long for the whole

process to be completed.

Sharon in NW Washington

All I have seen teaches me to trust in the Creator for all that I

have not seen. Ralph Waldo Emerson

Re: ssdi and disability

>

>

> Really good information on SSDI and Disability, Rick! As

someone

> with some experience with SSDI, I would like to point out that

the

> main reason that SSDI is denied, at first, is because people

do

not

> fill out the paperwork properly the first time. They are

not BS

> reasons! Mine went through the first time, but only

because my

wife

> and I were overly verbose in answering any and all questions,

no

> matter how mundane, with thorough answers. SSDI needs

all the

> information they ask for in the forms, even if the applicant does

not

> think it relevant. Remember, you are dealing with

government

> bureaucrats whose only job is to check and make sure the forms

are

> answered fully. If not, they are almost automatically

denied.

An

> attorney does help you to get all of the information

necessary,

but

> it is definitely possible for the average person to fill out

the

> forms and get approved, if you qualify, and, if you follow all

of

the

> instructions and completely answer all of the questions.

Just my

> humble opinion, though.

>

> Thanks, also, for the information about medicare after two (2)

> years. I did not know that and the info gives me some

reassurance as

> to my health insurance in the future as I am only 43.

>

> Thanks again for the info.

>

> Tony

>

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Talk about poor timing!

From: Hepatitis_C_Central [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On Behalf Of Jackie on

Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007

5:35 PM

To: Hepatitis_C_Central

Subject: RE:

Re: ssdi and disability

yes,, I guess Im one of the very lucky ones,, I have

my ssdi Plus my long term disability that was a paid medical benefit from the

ambulance service I worked for AND my pers from my divorce from my ex

fireman husband ( he never knew he was married, lol),, so yes, I can, but Im

one of the very very lucky ones,,, my ssdi would surely put me in a much

lower class of income if I had to rely on that solely,, but thank God I

dont...

Dorothy

<dorvoptonline (DOT) net> wrote:

Can you live on SSDI?

From: Hepatitis_C_Central

[mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ]

On Behalf Of Jackie on

Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007

4:40 PM

To: Hepatitis_C_Central

Subject: Re:

Re: ssdi and disability

Same with me

Sharron,, they kept denying me and my doc kept telling me not to give up,,

that some idiot sitting at a desk with an 8th grade education was determining

my case and that HE would fight with me all the way ,, and he did!

They kept saying that I could " sort potato

chips " or " watch TV for money " etc,, telling me to work at

stupid things that were not even available,,it was awful,, and I developed an

ulcer over all the stress and worry of this,, and finally , when it went before

the administrative law judge, HE agreed with me, my doc, my rheumy, and even

the shrink that the state sent me to that I could NOT work!.. and like I said

in a previous post, HE , the judge was just appalled that they refused to

take the word of the docs who were actually treating me and took the word of

someone sitting at a desk that had never laid eyes on me who just believed

that hep c was not a debilitating disease,, it was an awful time and they

repeated it at 18 months,, they tried to send me to another doc who was over

an hours drive away, was a chiropractor who was not required to read any of

my past medical history,, they were trying to get some other doc to say that

I was not disabled so they could stop my disability checks,, so I went and

saw an attorney who told me NOT to go and see their doc, that I had just had

my gall bladder removed and they'd done another biopsy of my liver and it was

still very sick,, he told me some of the laws about disability that I'd never

heard of that those who work for the government dont want us to know about ,,

ie: if you have never had a desk job in the past 10 years, and you turn

50 while on disability, they CANNOT FORCE you to work a desk job!!! I

had worked as a 911 paramedic ( very physical) and worked in a salon doing

hair and nails as well as teaching the EMT program at the community college,,

all very physical jobs that were done on my feet, so they could NOT make me

'watch TV for money " or sort potato chips etc,, and when I told them

what I knew and sited the law reference to each, I was immediately approved

with no further problems,,, but only after the jerk at the office who was

trying to send me to that other doc called and threatened me twice,, but

going and seeing this attorney who only handles ssdi cases was very very helpful

to me and had I gone to see this doc, there is a chance that she may have

said I could go back to work,, and let me tell you right now, there is no way

I could work anymore... No employer would hire me knowing Im on morphine,

medical cannabis , needing to get into the hot tub several times per day and

needing a good 14-16 hours sleep every day... and having serious short term

memory would or could make for serious business problems for who ever would

be silly enough to hire me, lol..

it was a horrible time in my life,, trying to get my

ssdi,, and after working 3 nearly full time jobs paying in huge amounts to

soc sec,, it was really frustrating to fight the insane thinking that hcv is

not a disabling disease.... Im sure that had I been an ILLEGAL immigrant,

they'd be happy to give me anything I asked for, but being a LEGAL American

citizen, they feel its ok to take all that money FROM me each and every month

I worked and refuse to give it back when I needed it,, especially since the

American Red Cross is the company responsible for my disease......

grrrrrrr...............

SHARON CROSBY

<csharonxoxomsn> wrote:

I didn't mean it like I said it. THere were many denials and more

filed paperwork in those two years, it just took that long for the whole

process to be completed.

Sharon in NW Washington

All I have seen teaches me to trust in the Creator for all that I

have not seen. Ralph Waldo Emerson

Re: ssdi and disability

>

>

> Really good information on SSDI and Disability, Rick! As

someone

> with some experience with SSDI, I would like to point out that

the

> main reason that SSDI is denied, at first, is because people

do

not

> fill out the paperwork properly the first time. They are

not BS

> reasons! Mine went through the first time, but only

because my

wife

> and I were overly verbose in answering any and all questions,

no

> matter how mundane, with thorough answers. SSDI needs

all the

> information they ask for in the forms, even if the applicant does

not

> think it relevant. Remember, you are dealing with

government

> bureaucrats whose only job is to check and make sure the forms

are

> answered fully. If not, they are almost automatically

denied.

An

> attorney does help you to get all of the information

necessary,

but

> it is definitely possible for the average person to fill out

the

> forms and get approved, if you qualify, and, if you follow all

of

the

> instructions and completely answer all of the questions.

Just my

> humble opinion, though.

>

> Thanks, also, for the information about medicare after two (2)

> years. I did not know that and the info gives me some

reassurance as

> to my health insurance in the future as I am only 43.

>

> Thanks again for the info.

>

> Tony

>

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I got mine despite my husbands income. Didn't seem to matter.Sharon in NW WashingtonAll I have seen teaches me to trust in the Creator for all that I have not seen. Ralph Waldo Emerson Re: ssdi and> disability> > > > Sharon,> > Having an attorney fill out the paperwork and then> having to wait for > two (2) years for a court date are separate things. > First, you fill > out the required paperwork thoroughly, hopefully. > In my experience, > it can take anywhere from one month to six months> before you get an > answer on whether you get SSDI. Second, if you are> initially denied > SSDI, you have a right to appeal. You generally do> this in front of > an administrative judge. This is the part that is> generaly two years > from when you file. The timeframe can be a few> months sooner or > later, but around two years, basically.> > By the way, I should have placed a caveat in my> first response, just > because you file all of your paperwork correctly and> thoroughly does > not mean that your doctor, or your attorney for that> matter, did. > Just as in insurance work, social security could> want something that > the doctor thinks they have sufficiently provided> information for, > but SS thinks otherwise. That situation can> sometimes take months to > straighten out. Bottom line is, get a copy of what> your doctor sends > to SS and see if they have filled the paperwork out> correctly. > Granted, you may not know what you are looking at (I> sure do not > always know), but read the questions and answers and> see if they make > some semblence of sense. Also, make sure that the> doctor answered > all of the questions. > > The same goes with attorneys. Get a copy of your> paperwork and check > to see if the attorney filled out all of the forms> thoroughly and > correctly. You should know where you lived and> worked for the past > 10 years, who your doctors were in the last 10> years, what > medications you are taking, job duties that are> problematic for you > and how they relate to Hep C, etc. Further, what> are your reasons > for filing for SSDI, i.e., trouble with memory,> concentrating, > walking, talking on the phone, writing notes,> sleeping, ordinary > daily chores, etc. Why do these things causing you> problems and how > to these things relate to Hep C and why you should> get SSDI. Social > Security work is a specialized area. If you use an> attorney, get one > whose practice entails a good majority of social> security-related > work. Ask around and don't be afraid to check with> more than one > attorney. Being comfortable and confident with your> attorney, if you > go that route, is very important. > === message truncated === ____________________________________________________________________________________Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ It's a pleasure having you join in our conversations. We hope you have found the support you need with us. If you are using email for your posts, for easy access to our group, just click the link-- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Hepatitis_C_Central/Happy Posting

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Thank you! I was hoping that had nothing to do with

it! I might have had to talk to him about divorce,

for the wrong reasons....thanks Sharon!

--- SHARON CROSBY wrote:

> I got mine despite my husbands income. Didn't seem

> to matter.

> Sharon in NW Washington

> All I have seen teaches me to trust in the Creator

> for all that I have not seen. Ralph Waldo Emerson

> Re: Re: ssdi and

> > disability

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Same with me Sharron,, they kept denying me

> and

> > my doc kept telling me not to give up,, that

> some

> > idiot sitting at a desk with an 8th grade

> education

> > was determining my case and that HE would fight

> with

> > me all the way ,, and he did!

> >

> > They kept saying that I could " sort potato

> > chips " or " watch TV for money " etc,, telling me

> to

> > work at stupid things that were not even

> > available,,it was awful,, and I developed an

> ulcer

> > over all the stress and worry of this,, and

> finally

> > , when it went before the administrative law

> judge,

> > HE agreed with me, my doc, my rheumy, and even

> the

> > shrink that the state sent me to that I could

> NOT

> > work!.. and like I said in a previous post, HE ,

> the

> > judge was just appalled that they refused to

> take

> > the word of the docs who were actually treating

> me

> > and took the word of someone sitting at a desk

> that

> > had never laid eyes on me who just believed that

> hep

> > c was not a debilitating disease,, it was an

> awful

> > time and they repeated it at 18 months,, they

> tried

> > to send me to another doc who was over an hours

> > drive away, was a chiropractor who was not

> required

> > to read any of my past medical history,, they

> were

> > trying to get some other doc to say that I was

> not

> > disabled so they could stop

> > my disability checks,, so I went and saw an

> > attorney who told me NOT to go and see their

> doc,

> > that I had just had my gall bladder removed and

> > they'd done another biopsy of my liver and it

> was

> > still very sick,, he told me some of the laws

> about

> > disability that I'd never heard of that those

> who

> > work for the government dont want us to know

> about

> > ,, ie: if you have never had a desk job in the

> past

> > 10 years, and you turn 50 while on disability,

> they

> > CANNOT FORCE you to work a desk job!!! I had

> worked

> > as a 911 paramedic ( very physical) and worked

> in a

> > salon doing hair and nails as well as teaching

> the

> > EMT program at the community college,, all very

> > physical jobs that were done on my feet, so they

> > could NOT make me 'watch TV for money " or sort

> > potato chips etc,, and when I told them what I

> knew

> > and sited the law reference to each, I was

> > immediately approved with no further problems,,,

> but

> > only after the jerk at the office who was trying

> to

> > send me to that other doc called and

> > threatened me twice,, but going and seeing this

> > attorney who only handles ssdi cases was very

> very

> > helpful to me and had I gone to see this doc,

> there

> > is a chance that she may have said I could go

> back

> > to work,, and let me tell you right now, there

> is no

> > way I could work anymore... No employer would

> hire

> > me knowing Im on morphine, medical cannabis ,

> > needing to get into the hot tub several times

> per

> > day and needing a good 14-16 hours sleep every

> > day... and having serious short term memory

> would or

> > could make for serious business problems for who

> > ever would be silly enough to hire me, lol..

> >

> > it was a horrible time in my life,, trying

> to

> > get my ssdi,, and after working 3 nearly full

> time

> > jobs paying in huge amounts to soc sec,, it was

> > really frustrating to fight the insane thinking

> that

> > hcv is not a disabling disease.... Im sure that

> had

> > I been an ILLEGAL immigrant, they'd be happy to

> give

> > me anything I asked for, but being a LEGAL

> American

> > citizen, they feel its ok to take all that money

> > FROM me each and every month I worked and refuse

> to

> > give it back when I needed it,, especially since

> the

> > American Red Cross is the company responsible

> for my

> > disease...... grrrrrrr...............

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > SHARON CROSBY

> >

> wrote:

> > I didn't mean it like I said it.

> THere

> > were many denials and more filed paperwork in

> those

> > two years, it just took that long for the whole

> > process to be completed.

> >

>

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WELL, I DID have to divorce my hubby with the first round of treatment. I didn't have insurance coverage and we could not afford the treatment. SOOO we divorced and married again later. It was a tiny civil ceremony in our tiny town in front of the license department. We had 3 other couples who had come in to get licenses of one thing or another who cheered and clapped for us, being in our 60's at the time. lol Sharon in NW WashingtonAll I have seen teaches me to trust in the Creator for all that I have not seen. Ralph Waldo Emerson Re: Re: ssdi and> > disability> > > > > > > > > > Same with me Sharron,, they kept denying me> and> > my doc kept telling me not to give up,, that> some> > idiot sitting at a desk with an 8th grade> education> > was determining my case and that HE would fight> with> > me all the way ,, and he did!> > > > They kept saying that I could "sort potato> > chips" or "watch TV for money" etc,, telling me> to> > work at stupid things that were not even> > available,,it was awful,, and I developed an> ulcer> > over all the stress and worry of this,, and> finally> > , when it went before the administrative law> judge,> > HE agreed with me, my doc, my rheumy, and even> the> > shrink that the state sent me to that I could> NOT> > work!.. and like I said in a previous post, HE ,> the> > judge was just appalled that they refused to> take> > the word of the docs who were actually treating> me> > and took the word of someone sitting at a desk> that> > had never laid eyes on me who just believed that> hep> > c was not a debilitating disease,, it was an> awful> > time and they repeated it at 18 months,, they> tried> > to send me to another doc who was over an hours> > drive away, was a chiropractor who was not> required> > to read any of my past medical history,, they> were> > trying to get some other doc to say that I was> not> > disabled so they could stop> > my disability checks,, so I went and saw an> > attorney who told me NOT to go and see their> doc,> > that I had just had my gall bladder removed and> > they'd done another biopsy of my liver and it> was> > still very sick,, he told me some of the laws> about> > disability that I'd never heard of that those> who> > work for the government dont want us to know> about> > ,, ie: if you have never had a desk job in the> past> > 10 years, and you turn 50 while on disability,> they> > CANNOT FORCE you to work a desk job!!! I had> worked> > as a 911 paramedic ( very physical) and worked> in a> > salon doing hair and nails as well as teaching> the> > EMT program at the community college,, all very> > physical jobs that were done on my feet, so they> > could NOT make me 'watch TV for money" or sort> > potato chips etc,, and when I told them what I> knew> > and sited the law reference to each, I was> > immediately approved with no further problems,,,> but> > only after the jerk at the office who was trying> to> > send me to that other doc called and> > threatened me twice,, but going and seeing this> > attorney who only handles ssdi cases was very> very> > helpful to me and had I gone to see this doc,> there> > is a chance that she may have said I could go> back> > to work,, and let me tell you right now, there> is no> > way I could work anymore... No employer would> hire> > me knowing Im on morphine, medical cannabis ,> > needing to get into the hot tub several times> per> > day and needing a good 14-16 hours sleep every> > day... and having serious short term memory> would or> > could make for serious business problems for who> > ever would be silly enough to hire me, lol.. > > > > it was a horrible time in my life,, trying> to> > get my ssdi,, and after working 3 nearly full> time> > jobs paying in huge amounts to soc sec,, it was> > really frustrating to fight the insane thinking> that> > hcv is not a disabling disease.... Im sure that> had> > I been an ILLEGAL immigrant, they'd be happy to> give> > me anything I asked for, but being a LEGAL> American> > citizen, they feel its ok to take all that money> > FROM me each and every month I worked and refuse> to> > give it back when I needed it,, especially since> the> > American Red Cross is the company responsible> for my> > disease...... grrrrrrr...............> > > > > > > > > > SHARON CROSBY> >> wrote: > > I didn't mean it like I said it. > THere> > were many denials and more filed paperwork in> those> > two years, it just took that long for the whole> > process to be completed.> > > === message truncated === ____________________________________________________________________________________Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hsIt's a pleasure having you join in our conversations. We hope you have found the support you need with us. If you are using email for your posts, for easy access to our group, just click the link-- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Hepatitis_C_Central/Happy Posting

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How very sweet! I love this story!

He does have his own coverage that I pay a good sum

for every month, but still less than my employer.

My husband would be devistated if I asked him for a

divorce of any kind. I finally have him looking up at

the world instead of down.

So-does this mean you get 2 anniversary gifts from

your husband

--- SHARON CROSBY wrote:

> WELL, I DID have to divorce my hubby with the first

> round of treatment. I didn't have insurance

> coverage and we could not afford the treatment.

> SOOO we divorced and married again later.

>

> It was a tiny civil ceremony in our tiny town in

> front of the license department. We had 3 other

> couples who had come in to get licenses of one thing

> or another who cheered and clapped for us, being in

> our 60's at the time. lol

>

> Sharon in NW Washington

> All I have seen teaches me to trust in the Creator

> for all that I have not seen. Ralph Waldo Emerson

> Re: Re: ssdi

> and

> > > disability

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Same with me Sharron,, they kept denying

> me

> > and

> > > my doc kept telling me not to give up,, that

> > some

> > > idiot sitting at a desk with an 8th grade

> > education

> > > was determining my case and that HE would

> fight

> > with

> > > me all the way ,, and he did!

> > >

> > > They kept saying that I could " sort

> potato

> > > chips " or " watch TV for money " etc,, telling

> me

> > to

> > > work at stupid things that were not even

> > > available,,it was awful,, and I developed an

> > ulcer

> > > over all the stress and worry of this,, and

> > finally

> > > , when it went before the administrative law

> > judge,

> > > HE agreed with me, my doc, my rheumy, and

> even

> > the

> > > shrink that the state sent me to that I

> could

> > NOT

> > > work!.. and like I said in a previous post,

> HE ,

> > the

> > > judge was just appalled that they refused to

> > take

> > > the word of the docs who were actually

> treating

> > me

> > > and took the word of someone sitting at a

> desk

> > that

> > > had never laid eyes on me who just believed

> that

> > hep

> > > c was not a debilitating disease,, it was an

> > awful

> > > time and they repeated it at 18 months,,

> they

> > tried

> > > to send me to another doc who was over an

> hours

> > > drive away, was a chiropractor who was not

> > required

> > > to read any of my past medical history,,

> they

> > were

> > > trying to get some other doc to say that I

> was

> > not

> > > disabled so they could stop

> > > my disability checks,, so I went and saw an

> > > attorney who told me NOT to go and see their

> > doc,

> > > that I had just had my gall bladder removed

> and

> > > they'd done another biopsy of my liver and

> it

> > was

> > > still very sick,, he told me some of the

> laws

> > about

> > > disability that I'd never heard of that

> those

> > who

>

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I doubt anyone can live on SSDI alone...but in our

case, I am hoping it will pay for his medical monthly

premium and maybe a few meds...

--- Tony wrote:

> Can one live on SSDI? In my experience, one cannot

> live, for long,

> on SSDI alone. I had a pretty good job with decent

> income and I

> would not be able to live and pay normal monthly

> bills if I did not

> also have a private long term disability plan from

> my, now previous,

> employer. Between SSDI and LTD, I am now receiving

> approximately 60%

> of my previous salary. Not a lot of money, but

> enough to get by. My

> SSDI is only about 30% of what I used to make, but

> it did go up a

> whole 2.8% for 2008.

>

> Tony

>

>

> >

> > I didn't mean it like I said it. THere were many

> denials and more

> filed

> > paperwork in those two years, it just took that

> long for the whole

> process

> > to be completed.

> >

> > Sharon in NW Washington

> > All I have seen teaches me to trust in the Creator

> for all that I

> have not

> > seen. Ralph Waldo Emerson

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

>

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HA HA I don't even get one. We both forget the date til it's past and then just go to dinner. lol Sharon in NW WashingtonAll I have seen teaches me to trust in the Creator for all that I have not seen. Ralph Waldo Emerson Re: Re: ssdi and disabilityHow very sweet! I love this story!He does have his own coverage that I pay a good sumfor every month, but still less than my employer.My husband would be devistated if I asked him for adivorce of any kind. I finally have him looking up atthe world instead of down.So-does this mean you get 2 anniversary gifts fromyour husband --- SHARON CROSBY wrote:> WELL, I DID have to divorce my hubby with the first> round of treatment. I didn't have insurance> coverage and we could not afford the treatment. > SOOO we divorced and married again later.> > It was a tiny civil ceremony in our tiny town in> front of the license department. We had 3 other> couples who had come in to get licenses of one thing> or another who cheered and clapped for us, being in> our 60's at the time. lol>

[Guest guest]

I have to laugh...I do not know if my husband would

marry me twice!

--- SHARON CROSBY wrote:

> HA HA I don't even get one. We both forget the

> date til it's past and then just go to dinner. lol

>

> Sharon in NW Washington

> All I have seen teaches me to trust in the Creator

> for all that I have not seen. Ralph Waldo Emerson

> Re: Re: ssdi and

> disability

>

>

> How very sweet! I love this story!

>

> He does have his own coverage that I pay a good

> sum

> for every month, but still less than my employer.

>

> My husband would be devistated if I asked him for

> a

> divorce of any kind. I finally have him looking

> up at

> the world instead of down.

>

> So-does this mean you get 2 anniversary gifts from

> your husband

> --- SHARON CROSBY

> >

> wrote:

>

> > WELL, I DID have to divorce my hubby with the

> first

> > round of treatment. I didn't have insurance

> > coverage and we could not afford the treatment.

> > SOOO we divorced and married again later.

> >

> > It was a tiny civil ceremony in our tiny town in

> > front of the license department. We had 3 other

> > couples who had come in to get licenses of one

> thing

> > or another who cheered and clapped for us, being

> in

> > our 60's at the time. lol

> >

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Well...I do not care...it is still most romantic!!!!

--- SHARON CROSBY wrote:

> HA HA I don't even get one. We both forget the

> date til it's past and then just go to dinner. lol

>

> Sharon in NW Washington

> All I have seen teaches me to trust in the Creator

> for all that I have not seen. Ralph Waldo Emerson

> Re: Re: ssdi and

> disability

>

>

> How very sweet! I love this story!

>

> He does have his own coverage that I pay a good

> sum

> for every month, but still less than my employer.

>

> My husband would be devistated if I asked him for

> a

> divorce of any kind. I finally have him looking

> up at

> the world instead of down.

>

> So-does this mean you get 2 anniversary gifts from

> your husband

> --- SHARON CROSBY

> >

> wrote:

>

> > WELL, I DID have to divorce my hubby with the

> first

> > round of treatment. I didn't have insurance

> > coverage and we could not afford the treatment.

> > SOOO we divorced and married again later.

> >

> > It was a tiny civil ceremony in our tiny town in

> > front of the license department. We had 3 other

> > couples who had come in to get licenses of one

> thing

> > or another who cheered and clapped for us, being

> in

> > our 60's at the time. lol

> >

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It was fun, after the tx was over. I relapsed, but ya gotta find fun where you can with this disease. Sharon in NW WashingtonAll I have seen teaches me to trust in the Creator for all that I have not seen. Ralph Waldo Emerson Re: Re: ssdi and disabilityWell...I do not care...it is still most romantic!!!!--- SHARON CROSBY wrote:> HA HA I don't even get one. We both forget the> date til it's past and then just go to dinner. lol>

[Guest guest]

It better not have anything to do with a

spouse’s income.  I am legally married, but receive no financial support

from him.

And that’s like saying that you

wouldn’t qualify for unemployment benefits if you were married with a

second income.  Makes no sense to me.

From: Hepatitis_C_Central [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On Behalf Of SHARON CROSBY

Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007

7:41 PM

To: Hepatitis_C_Central

Subject: Re:

Re: ssdi and disability

I got mine despite my husbands income. Didn't seem to matter.

Sharon in NW Washington

All I have seen teaches me to trust in the Creator for all that I have not

seen. Ralph Waldo Emerson

Re: ssdi and

> disability

>

>

>

> Sharon,

>

> Having an attorney fill out the paperwork and then

> having to wait for

> two (2) years for a court date are separate things.

> First, you fill

> out the required paperwork thoroughly, hopefully.

> In my experience,

> it can take anywhere from one month to six months

> before you get an

> answer on whether you get SSDI. Second, if you are

> initially denied

> SSDI, you have a right to appeal. You generally do

> this in front of

> an administrative judge. This is the part that is

> generaly two years

> from when you file. The timeframe can be a few

> months sooner or

> later, but around two years, basically.

>

> By the way, I should have placed a caveat in my

> first response, just

> because you file all of your paperwork correctly and

> thoroughly does

> not mean that your doctor, or your attorney for that

> matter, did.

> Just as in insurance work, social security could

> want something that

> the doctor thinks they have sufficiently provided

> information for,

> but SS thinks otherwise. That situation can

> sometimes take months to

> straighten out. Bottom line is, get a copy of what

> your doctor sends

> to SS and see if they have filled the paperwork out

> correctly.

> Granted, you may not know what you are looking at (I

> sure do not

> always know), but read the questions and answers and

> see if they make

> some semblence of sense. Also, make sure that the

> doctor answered

> all of the questions.

>

> The same goes with attorneys. Get a copy of your

> paperwork and check

> to see if the attorney filled out all of the forms

> thoroughly and

> correctly. You should know where you lived and

> worked for the past

> 10 years, who your doctors were in the last 10

> years, what

> medications you are taking, job duties that are

> problematic for you

> and how they relate to Hep C, etc. Further, what

> are your reasons

> for filing for SSDI, i.e., trouble with memory,

> concentrating,

> walking, talking on the phone, writing notes,

> sleeping, ordinary

> daily chores, etc. Why do these things causing you

> problems and how

> to these things relate to Hep C and why you should

> get SSDI. Social

> Security work is a specialized area. If you use an

> attorney, get one

> whose practice entails a good majority of social

> security-related

> work. Ask around and don't be afraid to check with

> more than one

> attorney. Being comfortable and confident with your

> attorney, if you

> go that route, is very important.

>

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Life is always fun...sometimes you have to look for

it!

--- SHARON CROSBY wrote:

> It was fun, after the tx was over. I relapsed, but

> ya gotta find fun where you can with this disease.

>

> Sharon in NW Washington

> All I have seen teaches me to trust in the Creator

> for all that I have not seen. Ralph Waldo Emerson

> Re: Re: ssdi and

> disability

>

>

> Well...I do not care...it is still most

> romantic!!!!

> --- SHARON CROSBY

> >

> wrote:

>

> > HA HA I don't even get one. We both forget the

> > date til it's past and then just go to dinner.

> lol

> >

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I am appealing NY State short term

disability right now.  And it pays $170 a week!!  Not sure what they expect you

to do with ALL that money!!

From: Hepatitis_C_Central [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On Behalf Of Tony

Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007

7:54 PM

To: Hepatitis_C_Central

Subject: Re:

ssdi and disability

Can one live on SSDI? In my experience, one cannot

live, for long,

on SSDI alone. I had a pretty good job with decent income and I

would not be able to live and pay normal monthly bills if I did not

also have a private long term disability plan from my, now previous,

employer. Between SSDI and LTD, I am now receiving approximately 60%

of my previous salary. Not a lot of money, but enough to get by. My

SSDI is only about 30% of what I used to make, but it did go up a

whole 2.8% for 2008.

Tony

> >

> > I had an attorney to fill out and file all my paperwork and it

> STILL took me 2 years to get before the judge.

> > Sharon in NW Washington

> > All I have seen teaches me to trust in the Creator for all that I

> have not seen. Ralph Waldo Emerson

> > Re: ssdi and disability

> >

> >

> > Really good information on SSDI and Disability, Rick! As

someone

> > with some experience with SSDI, I would like to point out that

> the

> > main reason that SSDI is denied, at first, is because people do

> not

> > fill out the paperwork properly the first time. They are not

BS

> > reasons! Mine went through the first time, but only because my

> wife

> > and I were overly verbose in answering any and all questions,

no

> > matter how mundane, with thorough answers. SSDI needs all the

> > information they ask for in the forms, even if the applicant

does

> not

> > think it relevant. Remember, you are dealing with government

> > bureaucrats whose only job is to check and make sure the forms

> are

> > answered fully. If not, they are almost automatically denied.

> An

> > attorney does help you to get all of the information necessary,

> but

> > it is definitely possible for the average person to fill out

the

> > forms and get approved, if you qualify, and, if you follow all

of

> the

> > instructions and completely answer all of the questions. Just

my

> > humble opinion, though.

> >

> > Thanks, also, for the information about medicare after two (2)

> > years. I did not know that and the info gives me some

> reassurance as

> > to my health insurance in the future as I am only 43.

> >

> > Thanks again for the info.

> >

> > Tony

> >

>

>

>

>

> It's a pleasure having you join in our conversations. We hope you

have found

> the support you need with us.

>

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Thanks Dorothy!

--- Dorothy wrote:

> It better not have anything to do with a spouse’s

> income. I am legally

> married, but receive no financial support from him.

>

>

>

> And that’s like saying that you wouldn’t qualify for

> unemployment benefits

> if you were married with a second income. Makes no

> sense to me.

>

>

>

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>

> From: Hepatitis_C_Central

> [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On

> Behalf Of SHARON CROSBY

> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 7:41 PM

> To: Hepatitis_C_Central

> Subject: Re: Re: ssdi and

> disability

>

>

>

> I got mine despite my husbands income. Didn't seem

> to matter.

>

> Sharon in NW Washington

> All I have seen teaches me to trust in the Creator

> for all that I have not

> seen. Ralph Waldo Emerson

>

> Re: Re: ssdi and

> > disability

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Same with me Sharron,, they kept denying me

> and

> > my doc kept telling me not to give up,, that some

> > idiot sitting at a desk with an 8th grade

> education

> > was determining my case and that HE would fight

> with

> > me all the way ,, and he did!

> >

> > They kept saying that I could " sort potato

> > chips " or " watch TV for money " etc,, telling me to

> > work at stupid things that were not even

> > available,,it was awful,, and I developed an ulcer

> > over all the stress and worry of this,, and

> finally

> > , when it went before the administrative law

> judge,

> > HE agreed with me, my doc, my rheumy, and even the

> > shrink that the state sent me to that I could NOT

> > work!.. and like I said in a previous post, HE ,

> the

> > judge was just appalled that they refused to take

> > the word of the docs who were actually treating me

> > and took the word of someone sitting at a desk

> that

> > had never laid eyes on me who just believed that

> hep

> > c was not a debilitating disease,, it was an awful

> > time and they repeated it at 18 months,, they

> tried

> > to send me to another doc who was over an hours

> > drive away, was a chiropractor who was not

> required

> > to read any of my past medical history,, they were

> > trying to get some other doc to say that I was not

> > disabled so they could stop

> > my disability checks,, so I went and saw an

> > attorney who told me NOT to go and see their doc,

> > that I had just had my gall bladder removed and

> > they'd done another biopsy of my liver and it was

> > still very sick,, he told me some of the laws

> about

> > disability that I'd never heard of that those who

> > work for the government dont want us to know about

> > ,, ie: if you have never had a desk job in the

> past

> > 10 years, and you turn 50 while on disability,

> they

> > CANNOT FORCE you to work a desk job!!! I had

> worked

> > as a 911 paramedic ( very physical) and worked in

> a

> > salon doing hair and nails as well as teaching the

> > EMT program at the community college,, all very

> > physical jobs that were done on my feet, so they

> > could NOT make me 'watch TV for money " or sort

> > potato chips etc,, and when I told them what I

> knew

> > and sited the law reference to each, I was

> > immediately approved with no further problems,,,

> but

> > only after the jerk at the office who was trying

> to

> > send me to that other doc called and

> > threatened me twice,, but going and seeing this

> > attorney who only handles ssdi cases was very very

> > helpful to me and had I gone to see this doc,

> there

> > is a chance that she may have said I could go back

> > to work,, and let me tell you right now, there is

> no

> > way I could work anymore... No employer would hire

> > me knowing Im on morphine, medical cannabis ,

> > needing to get into the hot tub several times per

> > day and needing a good 14-16 hours sleep every

> > day... and having serious short term memory would

> or

> > could make for serious business problems for who

> > ever would be silly enough to hire me, lol..

> >

> > it was a horrible time in my life,, trying to

> > get my ssdi,, and after working 3 nearly full time

> > jobs paying in huge amounts to soc sec,, it was

> > really frustrating to fight the insane thinking

> that

> > hcv is not a disabling disease.... Im sure that

> had

> > I been an ILLEGAL immigrant, they'd be happy to

> give

> > me anything I asked for, but being a LEGAL

> American

> > citizen, they feel its ok to take all that money

> > FROM me each and every month I worked and refuse

> to

> > give it back when I needed it,, especially since

> the

> > American Red Cross is the company responsible for

> my

> > disease...... grrrrrrr...............

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > SHARON CROSBY <csharonxoxo@

>

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I have to laugh at that!  I’m

married over 34 years and we re-married (renewed our vows really) at one of

those chapels in Vegas about 15 years ago.  I did have 2 anniversaries to

celebrate for years……..till we split up!!  But with Christmas,

Valentine’s Day, March anniversary, June birthday and Sept anniversary, I

was doing OK!!

From: Hepatitis_C_Central [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On Behalf Of SHARON CROSBY

Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007

8:46 PM

To: Hepatitis_C_Central

Subject: Re:

Re: ssdi and disability

HA HA I don't even get one. We both forget the date til

it's past and then just go to dinner. lol

Sharon in NW Washington

All I have seen teaches me to trust in the Creator for all that I have not

seen. Ralph Waldo Emerson

Re:

Re: ssdi and disability

How very sweet! I love this story!

He does have his own coverage that I pay a good sum

for every month, but still less than my employer.

My husband would be devistated if I asked him for a

divorce of any kind. I finally have him looking up at

the world instead of down.

So-does this mean you get 2 anniversary gifts from

your husband

--- SHARON CROSBY <csharonxoxomsn> wrote:

> WELL, I DID have to divorce my hubby with the first

> round of treatment. I didn't have insurance

> coverage and we could not afford the treatment.

> SOOO we divorced and married again later.

>

> It was a tiny civil ceremony in our tiny town in

> front of the license department. We had 3 other

> couples who had come in to get licenses of one thing

> or another who cheered and clapped for us, being in

> our 60's at the time. lol

>

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Mine did and it meant nothing!

From: Hepatitis_C_Central [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On Behalf Of kathy przybyla kloth

Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007

8:50 PM

To: Hepatitis_C_Central

Subject: Re:

Re: ssdi and disability

I have to

laugh...I do not know if my husband would

marry me twice!

--- SHARON CROSBY <csharonxoxomsn>

wrote:

> HA HA I don't even get one. We both forget the

> date til it's past and then just go to dinner. lol

>

> Sharon in NW Washington

> All I have seen teaches me to trust in the Creator

> for all that I have not seen. Ralph Waldo Emerson

> Re: Re: ssdi and

> disability

>

>

> How very sweet! I love this story!

>

> He does have his own coverage that I pay a good

> sum

> for every month, but still less than my employer.

>

> My husband would be devistated if I asked him for

> a

> divorce of any kind. I finally have him looking

> up at

> the world instead of down.

>

> So-does this mean you get 2 anniversary gifts from

> your husband

> --- SHARON CROSBY

> <csharonxoxomsn<mailto:csharonxoxomsn>>

> wrote:

>

> > WELL, I DID have to divorce my hubby with the

> first

> > round of treatment. I didn't have insurance

> > coverage and we could not afford the treatment.

> > SOOO we divorced and married again later.

> >

> > It was a tiny civil ceremony in our tiny town in

> > front of the license department. We had 3 other

> > couples who had come in to get licenses of one

> thing

> > or another who cheered and clapped for us, being

> in

> > our 60's at the time. lol

> >

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How cool is that! How romantic

--- Dorothy wrote:

> I have to laugh at that! I’m married over 34 years

> and we re-married

> (renewed our vows really) at one of those chapels in

> Vegas about 15 years

> ago. I did have 2 anniversaries to celebrate for

> years……..till we split

> up!! But with Christmas, Valentine’s Day, March

> anniversary, June birthday

> and Sept anniversary, I was doing OK!!

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From: Hepatitis_C_Central

> [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On

> Behalf Of SHARON CROSBY

> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 8:46 PM

> To: Hepatitis_C_Central

> Subject: Re: Re: ssdi and

> disability

>

>

>

> HA HA I don't even get one. We both forget the

> date til it's past and then

> just go to dinner. lol

>

>

>

> Sharon in NW Washington

> All I have seen teaches me to trust in the Creator

> for all that I have not

> seen. Ralph Waldo Emerson

>

> Re: Re: ssdi and

> disability

>

>

>

> How very sweet! I love this story!

>

> He does have his own coverage that I pay a good sum

> for every month, but still less than my employer.

>

> My husband would be devistated if I asked him for a

> divorce of any kind. I finally have him looking up

> at

> the world instead of down.

>

> So-does this mean you get 2 anniversary gifts from

> your husband

> --- SHARON CROSBY <csharonxoxo@

> msn.com> wrote:

>

> > WELL, I DID have to divorce my hubby with the

> first

> > round of treatment. I didn't have insurance

> > coverage and we could not afford the treatment.

> > SOOO we divorced and married again later.

> >

> > It was a tiny civil ceremony in our tiny town in

> > front of the license department. We had 3 other

> > couples who had come in to get licenses of one

> thing

> > or another who cheered and clapped for us, being

> in

> > our 60's at the time. lol

> >

>

>

>

>

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Welll...perhaps i should not go there

--- Dorothy wrote:

> Mine did and it meant nothing!

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From: Hepatitis_C_Central

> [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On

> Behalf Of kathy przybyla

> kloth

> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 8:50 PM

> To: Hepatitis_C_Central

> Subject: Re: Re: ssdi and

> disability

>

>

>

> I have to laugh...I do not know if my husband would

> marry me twice!

> --- SHARON CROSBY <csharonxoxo@

> <mailto:csharonxoxo%40msn.com> msn.com>

> wrote:

>

> > HA HA I don't even get one. We both forget the

> > date til it's past and then just go to dinner. lol

> >

> > Sharon in NW Washington

> > All I have seen teaches me to trust in the Creator

> > for all that I have not seen. Ralph Waldo Emerson

> > Re: Re: ssdi and

> > disability

> >

> >

> > How very sweet! I love this story!

> >

> > He does have his own coverage that I pay a good

> > sum

> > for every month, but still less than my employer.

> >

> > My husband would be devistated if I asked him for

> > a

> > divorce of any kind. I finally have him looking

> > up at

> > the world instead of down.

> >

> > So-does this mean you get 2 anniversary gifts from

> > your husband

> > --- SHARON CROSBY

> > <csharonxoxo@ <mailto:csharonxoxo%40msn.com>

> msn.com<mailto:csharonxoxo@

> <mailto:csharonxoxo%40msn.com> msn.com>>

> > wrote:

> >

> > > WELL, I DID have to divorce my hubby with the

> > first

> > > round of treatment. I didn't have insurance

> > > coverage and we could not afford the treatment.

> > > SOOO we divorced and married again later.

> > >

> > > It was a tiny civil ceremony in our tiny town in

> > > front of the license department. We had 3 other

> > > couples who had come in to get licenses of one

> > thing

> > > or another who cheered and clapped for us, being

> > in

> > > our 60's at the time. lol

> > >

>

>

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SSDI is based upon YOUR income over the last 10 years,, it has nothing to do with your husbands income,, ssi does as ssi is welfare and they base that upon the household income, or so Im told,, but SSDI is based upon your own working history and no one elses,, jax kathy przybyla kloth wrote: Thanks Dorothy!--- Dorothy <dorvoptonline (DOT) net> wrote:> It better not have anything to do with a spouse’s> income. I am legally> married, but receive no financial support from him. > > > > And that’s like saying that you wouldn’t qualify for> unemployment benefits> if you were married with a second income. Makes no> sense to me.> > > > _____ > > From: Hepatitis_C_Central > [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On> Behalf Of SHARON CROSBY> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 7:41 PM> To: Hepatitis_C_Central > Subject: Re: Re: ssdi and> disability> > > > I got mine despite my husbands income. Didn't seem> to matter.> > Sharon in NW Washington> All I have seen teaches me to trust in the Creator> for all that I have not> seen. Ralph Waldo Emerson> > Re: Re: ssdi and> > disability> > > > > > > > > > Same with me Sharron,, they kept denying me> and> > my doc kept telling me not to give up,, that some> > idiot sitting at a desk with an 8th grade> education> > was determining my case and that HE would fight> with> > me all the way ,, and he did!> > > > They kept saying that I could "sort potato>

> chips" or "watch TV for money" etc,, telling me to> > work at stupid things that were not even> > available,,it was awful,, and I developed an ulcer> > over all the stress and worry of this,, and> finally> > , when it went before the administrative law> judge,> > HE agreed with me, my doc, my rheumy, and even the> > shrink that the state sent me to that I could NOT> > work!.. and like I said in a previous post, HE ,> the> > judge was just appalled that they refused to take> > the word of the docs who were actually treating me> > and took the word of someone sitting at a desk> that> > had never laid eyes on me who just believed that> hep> > c was not a debilitating disease,, it was an awful> > time and they repeated it at 18 months,, they> tried> > to send me to another doc who was over an

hours> > drive away, was a chiropractor who was not> required> > to read any of my past medical history,, they were> > trying to get some other doc to say that I was not> > disabled so they could stop> > my disability checks,, so I went and saw an> > attorney who told me NOT to go and see their doc,> > that I had just had my gall bladder removed and> > they'd done another biopsy of my liver and it was> > still very sick,, he told me some of the laws> about> > disability that I'd never heard of that those who> > work for the government dont want us to know about> > ,, ie: if you have never had a desk job in the> past> > 10 years, and you turn 50 while on disability,> they> > CANNOT FORCE you to work a desk job!!! I had> worked> > as a 911 paramedic ( very physical) and worked in>

a> > salon doing hair and nails as well as teaching the> > EMT program at the community college,, all very> > physical jobs that were done on my feet, so they> > could NOT make me 'watch TV for money" or sort> > potato chips etc,, and when I told them what I> knew> > and sited the law reference to each, I was> > immediately approved with no further problems,,,> but> > only after the jerk at the office who was trying> to> > send me to that other doc called and> > threatened me twice,, but going and seeing this> > attorney who only handles ssdi cases was very very> > helpful to me and had I gone to see this doc,> there> > is a chance that she may have said I could go back> > to work,, and let me tell you right now, there is> no> > way I could work anymore... No employer would hire> >

me knowing Im on morphine, medical cannabis ,> > needing to get into the hot tub several times per> > day and needing a good 14-16 hours sleep every> > day... and having serious short term memory would> or> > could make for serious business problems for who> > ever would be silly enough to hire me, lol.. > > > > it was a horrible time in my life,, trying to> > get my ssdi,, and after working 3 nearly full time> > jobs paying in huge amounts to soc sec,, it was> > really frustrating to fight the insane thinking> that> > hcv is not a disabling disease.... Im sure that> had> > I been an ILLEGAL immigrant, they'd be happy to> give> > me anything I asked for, but being a LEGAL> American> > citizen, they feel its ok to take all that money> > FROM me each and every month I worked and refuse>

to> > give it back when I needed it,, especially since> the> > American Red Cross is the company responsible for> my> > disease...... grrrrrrr...............> > > > > > > > > > SHARON CROSBY <csharonxoxo@> <mailto:csharonxoxomsn> === message truncated ===__________________________________________________________Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hsJackie

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thats awful,, yep, timing is wrong! Im sorry hon,, hope you will be ok! Dorothy wrote: I had an LTD policy that I paid for myself for almost 8 years. Then I was laid off 3 months before my neuropathy hit! Talk about poor timing! From:

Hepatitis_C_Central [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On Behalf Of Jackie onSent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 5:35 PMTo: Hepatitis_C_Central Subject: RE: Re: ssdi and disability yes,, I guess Im one of the very lucky ones,, I have my ssdi Plus my long term disability that was a paid medical benefit from the ambulance service I worked for AND my pers from my divorce from my ex fireman husband ( he never knew he was married, lol),, so yes, I can, but Im one of the very very lucky ones,,, my ssdi would surely put me in a much lower class of income if I had to rely on that solely,, but thank God I dont... Dorothy

<dorvoptonline (DOT) net> wrote: Can you live on SSDI? From: Hepatitis_C_Central

[mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On Behalf Of Jackie onSent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 4:40 PMTo: Hepatitis_C_Central Subject: Re: Re: ssdi and disability Same with me Sharron,, they kept denying me and my doc kept telling me not to give up,, that some idiot sitting at a desk with an 8th grade education was

determining my case and that HE would fight with me all the way ,, and he did! They kept saying that I could "sort potato chips" or "watch TV for money" etc,, telling me to work at stupid things that were not even available,,it was awful,, and I developed an ulcer over all the stress and worry of this,, and finally , when it went before the administrative law judge, HE agreed with me, my doc, my rheumy, and even the shrink that the state sent me to that I could NOT work!.. and like I said in a previous post, HE , the judge was just appalled that they refused to take the word of the docs who were actually treating me and took the word of someone sitting at a desk that had never laid eyes on me who just believed that hep c was not a debilitating disease,, it was an awful time and they repeated it at 18 months,, they tried to send

me to another doc who was over an hours drive away, was a chiropractor who was not required to read any of my past medical history,, they were trying to get some other doc to say that I was not disabled so they could stop my disability checks,, so I went and saw an attorney who told me NOT to go and see their doc, that I had just had my gall bladder removed and they'd done another biopsy of my liver and it was still very sick,, he told me some of the laws about disability that I'd never heard of that those who work for the government dont want us to know about ,, ie: if you have never had a desk job in the past 10 years, and you turn 50 while on disability, they CANNOT FORCE you to work a desk job!!! I had worked as a 911 paramedic ( very physical) and worked in a salon doing hair and nails as well as teaching the EMT program at the community college,, all very physical jobs that were done on my feet, so they could NOT make me 'watch TV for money" or sort

potato chips etc,, and when I told them what I knew and sited the law reference to each, I was immediately approved with no further problems,,, but only after the jerk at the office who was trying to send me to that other doc called and threatened me twice,, but going and seeing this attorney who only handles ssdi cases was very very helpful to me and had I gone to see this doc, there is a chance that she may have said I could go back to work,, and let me tell you right now, there is no way I could work anymore... No employer would hire me knowing Im on morphine, medical cannabis , needing to get into the hot tub several times per day and needing a good 14-16 hours sleep every day... and having serious short term memory would or could make for serious business problems for who ever would be silly enough to hire me, lol.. it

was a horrible time in my life,, trying to get my ssdi,, and after working 3 nearly full time jobs paying in huge amounts to soc sec,, it was really frustrating to fight the insane thinking that hcv is not a disabling disease.... Im sure that had I been an ILLEGAL immigrant, they'd be happy to give me anything I asked for, but being a LEGAL American citizen, they feel its ok to take all that money FROM me each and every month I worked and refuse to give it back when I needed it,, especially since the American Red Cross is the company responsible for my disease...... grrrrrrr............... SHARON CROSBY <csharonxoxomsn> wrote: I didn't mean it like I said it. THere were many denials and more filed paperwork in those two years, it just took that long for the whole process to be completed. Sharon in NW WashingtonAll I have seen teaches me to trust in the Creator for all that I have

not seen. Ralph Waldo Emerson Re: ssdi and disability> > > Really good information on SSDI and Disability, Rick! As someone > with some experience with SSDI, I would like to point out that the > main reason that SSDI is denied, at first, is because people do not > fill out the paperwork properly the first time. They are not BS > reasons! Mine went through the first time, but only because my

wife > and I were overly verbose in answering any and all questions, no > matter how mundane, with thorough answers. SSDI needs all the > information they ask for in the forms, even if the applicant does not > think it relevant. Remember, you are dealing with government > bureaucrats whose only job is to check and make sure the forms are > answered fully. If not, they are almost automatically denied. An > attorney does help you to get all of the information necessary, but > it is definitely possible for the average person to fill out the > forms and get approved, if you qualify, and, if you follow all of the > instructions and completely answer all of the questions. Just my > humble opinion, though.>

> Thanks, also, for the information about medicare after two (2) > years. I did not know that and the info gives me some reassurance as > to my health insurance in the future as I am only 43.> > Thanks again for the info.> > Tony>It's a pleasure having you join in our conversations. We hope you have found the support you need with us. If you are using email for your posts, for easy access to our group, just click the link-- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Hepatitis_C_Central/Happy Posting

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nope, your income has NOTHING to do with HIS ssdi,, kathy przybyla kloth wrote: I have to question if my income has an impact onwhether or not my husband gets disability? Anyoneknow? It is hardly fair because he earned it and I amin the negative nearly every month...Thoughts?--- Jackie on <redjaxjm> wrote:> > yes,, I guess Im one of the very lucky ones,, I> have my ssdi Plus my long term disability that was a> paid medical benefit from the ambulance service I> worked for AND my pers from my divorce from my ex> fireman husband ( he never knew he was married,> lol),, so yes, I can, but Im one of the very very> lucky ones,,, my ssdi would surely put me in a much> lower class of income if I had to rely on that> solely,, but thank God I dont...> > > > Dorothy <dorvoptonline (DOT) net> wrote:

> Can you live on SSDI?> > > ---------------------------------> > From: Hepatitis_C_Central > [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On> Behalf Of Jackie on> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 4:40 PM> To: Hepatitis_C_Central > Subject: Re: Re: ssdi and> disability> > > > > Same with me Sharron,, they kept denying me and> my doc kept telling me not to give up,, that some> idiot sitting at a desk with an 8th grade education> was determining my case and that HE would fight with> me all the way ,, and he did!> > They kept saying that

I could "sort potato> chips" or "watch TV for money" etc,, telling me to> work at stupid things that were not even> available,,it was awful,, and I developed an ulcer> over all the stress and worry of this,, and finally> , when it went before the administrative law judge,> HE agreed with me, my doc, my rheumy, and even the> shrink that the state sent me to that I could NOT> work!.. and like I said in a previous post, HE , the> judge was just appalled that they refused to take> the word of the docs who were actually treating me> and took the word of someone sitting at a desk that> had never laid eyes on me who just believed that hep> c was not a debilitating disease,, it was an awful> time and they repeated it at 18 months,, they tried> to send me to another doc who was over an hours> drive away, was a chiropractor who was not required> to read any of my

past medical history,, they were> trying to get some other doc to say that I was not> disabled so they could stop> my disability checks,, so I went and saw an> attorney who told me NOT to go and see their doc,> that I had just had my gall bladder removed and> they'd done another biopsy of my liver and it was> still very sick,, he told me some of the laws about> disability that I'd never heard of that those who> work for the government dont want us to know about> ,, ie: if you have never had a desk job in the past> 10 years, and you turn 50 while on disability, they> CANNOT FORCE you to work a desk job!!! I had worked> as a 911 paramedic ( very physical) and worked in a> salon doing hair and nails as well as teaching the> EMT program at the community college,, all very> physical jobs that were done on my feet, so they> could NOT make me 'watch TV for money"

or sort> potato chips etc,, and when I told them what I knew> and sited the law reference to each, I was> immediately approved with no further problems,,, but> only after the jerk at the office who was trying to> send me to that other doc called and> threatened me twice,, but going and seeing this> attorney who only handles ssdi cases was very very> helpful to me and had I gone to see this doc, there> is a chance that she may have said I could go back> to work,, and let me tell you right now, there is no> way I could work anymore... No employer would hire> me knowing Im on morphine, medical cannabis ,> needing to get into the hot tub several times per> day and needing a good 14-16 hours sleep every> day... and having serious short term memory would or> could make for serious business problems for who> ever would be silly enough to hire me, lol.. >

> it was a horrible time in my life,, trying to> get my ssdi,, and after working 3 nearly full time> jobs paying in huge amounts to soc sec,, it was> really frustrating to fight the insane thinking that> hcv is not a disabling disease.... Im sure that had> I been an ILLEGAL immigrant, they'd be happy to give> me anything I asked for, but being a LEGAL American> citizen, they feel its ok to take all that money> FROM me each and every month I worked and refuse to> give it back when I needed it,, especially since the> American Red Cross is the company responsible for my> disease...... grrrrrrr...............> > > > > SHARON CROSBY <csharonxoxomsn> wrote: > I didn't mean it like I said it. THere> were many denials and more filed paperwork in those> two years, it just

took that long for the whole> process to be completed.> > Sharon in NW Washington> All I have seen teaches me to trust in the Creator> for all that I have not seen. Ralph Waldo Emerson> > Re: ssdi and> disability> > > > Sharon,> > Having an attorney fill out the paperwork and then> having to wait for > two (2) years for a court date are separate things. > First, you fill > out the required paperwork thoroughly, hopefully. > In my experience, > it can take anywhere from one month to six months> before you get an > answer on

whether you get SSDI. Second, if you are> initially denied > SSDI, you have a right to appeal. You generally do> this in front of > an administrative judge. This is the part that is> generaly two years > from when you file. The timeframe can be a few> months sooner or > later, but around two years, basically.> > By the way, I should have placed a caveat in my> first response, just > because you file all of your paperwork correctly and> thoroughly does > not mean that your doctor, or your attorney for that> matter, did. > Just as in insurance work, social security could> want something that > the doctor thinks they have sufficiently provided> information for, > but SS thinks otherwise. That situation can> sometimes take months to > straighten out. Bottom line is, get a copy of what> your doctor sends > to SS

and see if they have filled the paperwork out> correctly. > Granted, you may not know what you are looking at (I> sure do not > always know), but read the questions and answers and> see if they make > some semblence of sense. Also, make sure that the> doctor answered > all of the questions. > > The same goes with attorneys. Get a copy of your> paperwork and check > to see if the attorney filled out all of the forms> thoroughly and > correctly. You should know where you lived and> worked for the past > 10 years, who your doctors were in the last 10> years, what > medications you are taking, job duties that are> problematic for you > and how they relate to Hep C, etc. Further, what> are your reasons > for filing for SSDI, i.e., trouble with memory,> concentrating, > walking, talking on the phone, writing

notes,> sleeping, ordinary > daily chores, etc. Why do these things causing you> problems and how > to these things relate to Hep C and why you should> get SSDI. Social > Security work is a specialized area. If you use an> attorney, get one > whose practice entails a good majority of social> security-related > work. Ask around and don't be afraid to check with> more than one > attorney. Being comfortable and confident with your> attorney, if you > go that route, is very important. > === message truncated ===__________________________________________________________Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ

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Hi Bill Actually, I dont know for sure but I would think that they might count that time,, but since Im not sure, I'd sure check it out... Most of the drug pharmies have programs to help ppl needing treatment who do not have insurance so you could probably get the treatment meds from them.. Im sure that Liz will come along soon to post the places where you can get the Peg and Riba from both Scherring and Roche... Congrats for doing your time and for it saving your life,, sometimes we all have to really fall on our butts before we realize what we need to do in order to make our lives better.. Im glad to see you posting here again and please,

dont be a stranger,, post often and keep us updated how you are doing,, ok? Merry Christmas! jax Bill wrote: Hello guys, long time no post. I had a question relating to ssdi which is, I recently got out of federal prison after being in their care(lol) for 5 years and want to know if this lack of income for

that time will count as part of the 10 years they look at? It might sound weird but being in there might have saved my life because I would never have had a hep test otherwise. They are mandatory for everybody being released, along with an aids test. A year ago my vl was 700,000 and I'm finally able to get to a REAL doctor next month to get another blood test and probably biopsy done. I just hope it hasn't gone up too much. I have no insurance but am going to ask the dr about free clinics or teaching colleges who might be able to treat me for free. I'm in PA and the doctor I'm going to see is part of a free clinic. If I can get on ssdi do they provide medical coverage? My wife works and makes about 20k/yr so we make too much for welfare with just her income. I have an artificial hip, a knee joint wearing out, a messed up shoulder from the swat team tackle 5 years ago and my hernia is ripping open again so I'm hoping I

can get help from somewhere. I don't post much but learn an awful lot from you guys and I thank you for that. Jackie

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Re: Re: ssdi and disability

Hi Bill

Actually, I dont know for sure but I would think that they might count that time,, but since Im not sure, I'd sure check it out...

Most of the drug pharmies have programs to help ppl needing treatment who do not have insurance so you could probably get the treatment meds from them.. Im sure that Liz will come along soon to post the places where you can get the Peg and Riba from both Scherring and Roche...

Congrats for doing your time and for it saving your life,, sometimes we all have to really fall on our butts before we realize what we need to do in order to make our lives better..

Im glad to see you posting here again and please, dont be a stranger,, post often and keep us updated how you are doing,, ok?

Merry Christmas!

jax

Bill <falsarge> wrote:

Hello guys, long time no post. I had a question relating to ssdi which is, I recently got out of federal prison after being in their care(lol) for 5 years and want to know if this lack of income for that time will count as part of the 10 years they look at? It might sound weird but being in there might have saved my life because I would never have had a hep test otherwise. They are mandatory for everybody being released, along with an aids test. A year ago my vl was 700,000 and I'm finally able to get to a REAL doctor next month to get another blood test and probably biopsy done. I just hope it hasn't gone up too much. I have no insurance but am going to ask the dr about free clinics or teaching colleges who might be able to treat me for free. I'm in PA and the doctor I'm going to see is part of a free clinic. If I can get on ssdi do they provide medical coverage? My wife works and makes about 20k/yr so we make too much for welfare with just her income. I have an artificial hip, a knee joint wearing out, a messed up shoulder from the swat team tackle 5 years ago and my hernia is ripping open again so I'm hoping I can get help from somewhere. I don't post much but learn an awful lot from you guys and I thank you for that. Jackie