Re: Re: ssdi and disability

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I’m interested in this topic also

since I’m getting ready to see an attorney.  I was planning on basing my

claim more on my neuropathy and rheumatoid arthritis with HCV thrown in for

good measure!!  I appreciate the idea of using an attorney as a back up since I

feel that I am quite capable of doing this on my own, but don’t know the “ropes”

of getting it done quickly.  My neurologist referred me to an attorney and said

that 95% of the patients he recommends get approved.  I also feel that a lot of

time, I don’t think clearly enough to concentrate and keep my stuff

organized so an attorney could take care of all that stuff.  I just hate to

hand over all that money to them.  And since I have no income now, how do

people live in the meantime?

If anyone else has any personal input,

please pass it on as I think that there are quite a number of us here who could

benefit from this knowledge.

Thanks, Dorothy

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Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007

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Subject: Re:

ssdi and disability

I'm on 100% Social Security Disability from HCV, and

received a nice

back payment check, too. What I did was apply online first. First,

you should put down ALL his symptoms (ability to walk, think, motor

skills, bend & lift, etc. Then, make sure you put all the mental

aspects he is suffering from, like sleep problems, memory loss,

confusion, ability to drive, cook, do laundry, and generally how he

can and can't take care of himself. After that, I went to a SS

attorney specializing in this stuff. They were going to charge

something like 25%, but ended charging me $750.00, as I did all the

work myself and it was approved the first time, which is rare.

Usually they reject you the first time for some b.s. reason and make

you reapply. That's why I had the attorney's, in case they rejected

me. So maybe you don't need an attorney right away, but you can see

if you can get a free 1 hour consultation, The sooner you apply, the

better, because they'll only go back so far in time for your eligible

date (and back pay date) which is something like 18 months or 2

years. Once approved, you are also eligible for Medicare after 2

years from the elegibility date, no matter what your age. I'm 61,

have been receiving SSD for 1 year and 7 months, and will be on

Medicare next May. It's damned worthwhile to do. Just advise you main

GI HCV Doc of what you're doing, because they may contact him. And

don't let your spouse ever get caught taking out the trash, lifting

anything from the yard, etc. Whatever you've put down in the

application is how he must behave, so it's not worth telling a bunch

of lies. That could be fraud against the US Government! Good luck,

and please ask any other questions. Just start with Google " SS

Disability " and you'll find the site to apply.

>

> Hello all,

> I am also seeking any advice on obtaining SSI or disability for my

> husband..who has cirrhosis and in need of transplant.

> thank you in advance..

>

>

>

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recipes

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well I can tell you that they did deny me over and over for more than 2 years and it WAS BS and not because we didnt fill the paperwork out correctly,, we had someone making the decision that did not believe that HCV was debilitating, and the administrative law judge was totally pissed when he saw my info,, he approved me immediatly and wanted to know just WHY the person making the decision was NOT accepting what MY docs were telling them,, so it does happen and NOT for any other reason than the guy looking at the paperwork doesnt believe that hcv is bad........ and I had cirrhosis too! Tony wrote: Really good information on SSDI and Disability, Rick! As someone with some experience with SSDI, I would like to point out that the main reason that SSDI is denied, at first, is because people do not fill out the paperwork properly the first time. They are not BS reasons! Mine went through the first time, but only because my wife and I were overly verbose in answering any and all questions, no

matter how mundane, with thorough answers. SSDI needs all the information they ask for in the forms, even if the applicant does not think it relevant. Remember, you are dealing with government bureaucrats whose only job is to check and make sure the forms are answered fully. If not, they are almost automatically denied. An attorney does help you to get all of the information necessary, but it is definitely possible for the average person to fill out the forms and get approved, if you qualify, and, if you follow all of the instructions and completely answer all of the questions. Just my humble opinion, though.Thanks, also, for the information about medicare after two (2) years. I did not know that and the info gives me some reassurance as to my health insurance in the future as I am only 43.Thanks again for the info.Tony> >> > Hello all,> > I am also seeking any advice on obtaining SSI or disability for my > > husband..who has cirrhosis and in need of transplant.> > thank you in advance..> > > > > > > > **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes > > (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004)>

>>Jackie

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Yes, most of my problems stemmed form the HCV, but they don't want to hear about that. I would guess if it's gone to cirrhosis and other serious problems, they would be more open to it. Lots depends on the bureaucrats mood, tho.

Sharon in NW WashingtonAll I have seen teaches me to trust in the Creator for all that I have not seen. Ralph Waldo Emerson

Re: ssdi and disability> > > > I'm on 100% Social Security Disability from HCV, and received > a nice > back payment check, too. What I did was apply online first. > First, > you should put down ALL his symptoms (ability to walk, think, > motor > skills, bend & lift, etc. Then, make sure you put all the > mental > aspects he is suffering from, like sleep problems, memory > loss, > confusion, ability to drive, cook, do laundry, and generally > how he > can and can't take care of himself. After that, I went to a SS > attorney specializing in this stuff. They were going to charge > something like 25%, but ended charging me $750.00, as I did > all the > work myself and it was approved the first time, which is rare. > Usually they reject you the first time for some b.s. reason > and make > you reapply. That's why I had the attorney's, in case they > rejected > me. So maybe you don't need an attorney right away, but you > can see > if you can get a free 1 hour consultation, The sooner you > apply, the > better, because they'll only go back so far in time for your > eligible > date (and back pay date) which is something like 18 months or > 2 > years. Once approved, you are also eligible for Medicare after > 2 > years from the elegibility date, no matter what your age. I'm > 61, > have been receiving SSD for 1 year and 7 months, and will be > on > Medicare next May. It's damned worthwhile to do. Just advise > you main > GI HCV Doc of what you're doing, because they may contact him. > And > don't let your spouse ever get caught taking out the trash, > lifting > anything from the yard, etc. Whatever you've put down in the > application is how he must behave, so it's not worth telling a > bunch > of lies. That could be fraud against the US Government! Good > luck, > and please ask any other questions. Just start with Google "SS > Disability" and you'll find the site to apply.> > > >> > Hello all,> > I am also seeking any advice on obtaining SSI or disability > for my > > husband..who has cirrhosis and in need of transplant.> > thank you in advance..> > > > > > > > **************************************See AOL's top rated > recipes > > (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-> recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004> recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004>) >> > >

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i also had a lawyer and i hd o prbl but lots of people do for diff reasons, but you allways get approved the 2nd time around, it is retroactive from the day you apply ssi goes by yr income and need i was denyed that and still am, but ssdisability i got they look at yr work history etc,,,and yr state to determine yr amt i am in mass , my sister got lung cancer 2 yrs ago and got it the first time out ssd that is and she lives in nevada she wasnt eligible for ssi because again based on need and her husband made a pretty gd pay,also you could allwas apply yr self lots of questions i mean alot call and they will go over a few things with you on the phone and send you the app if yr denied its ok, cause they still go by the date of when you appled then you could get a lawyer a social sec lawyer, either way as i told my sister you have nothing to loose good luck joyceSHARON CROSBY wrote: I had an attorney to fill out and file all my paperwork and it STILL took me 2 years to get before the judge. Sharon in NW WashingtonAll I have seen teaches me to trust in the Creator for all that I have not seen. Ralph Waldo Emerson Re: ssdi and disability Really good information on SSDI and Disability, Rick! As someone with some experience with SSDI, I would like to point out that the main reason that SSDI is denied, at first, is because people do not fill out the paperwork properly the first time. They are not BS reasons! Mine went through the first time, but only because my wife and I were overly verbose in answering any and all questions, no matter how mundane, with thorough answers. SSDI needs all the information they ask for in the forms, even if the applicant does not

think it relevant. Remember, you are dealing with government bureaucrats whose only job is to check and make sure the forms are answered fully. If not, they are almost automatically denied. An attorney does help you to get all of the information necessary, but it is definitely possible for the average person to fill out the forms and get approved, if you qualify, and, if you follow all of the instructions and completely answer all of the questions. Just my humble opinion, though.Thanks, also, for the information about medicare after two (2) years. I did not know that and the info gives me some reassurance as to my health insurance in the future as I am only 43.Thanks again for the info.Tony

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Rick-

Thank you so much for this email!!! We have been

trying to get my husband on disability for 5 years

now. He was denied once and we are going back at it

again. The first denial was bogus since even the

industrial therapist said he could not work.

Thank you again for your post and thank you everyone

for your posts too-it helps us alot!

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!

Kathy

--- Rick Kipp wrote:

> I'm on 100% Social Security Disability from HCV, and

> received a nice

> back payment check, too. What I did was apply online

> first. First,

> you should put down ALL his symptoms (ability to

> walk, think, motor

> skills, bend & lift, etc. Then, make sure you put

> all the mental

> aspects he is suffering from, like sleep problems,

> memory loss,

> confusion, ability to drive, cook, do laundry, and

> generally how he

> can and can't take care of himself. After that, I

> went to a SS

> attorney specializing in this stuff. They were going

> to charge

> something like 25%, but ended charging me $750.00,

> as I did all the

> work myself and it was approved the first time,

> which is rare.

> Usually they reject you the first time for some b.s.

> reason and make

> you reapply. That's why I had the attorney's, in

> case they rejected

> me. So maybe you don't need an attorney right away,

> but you can see

> if you can get a free 1 hour consultation, The

> sooner you apply, the

> better, because they'll only go back so far in time

> for your eligible

> date (and back pay date) which is something like 18

> months or 2

> years. Once approved, you are also eligible for

> Medicare after 2

> years from the elegibility date, no matter what your

> age. I'm 61,

> have been receiving SSD for 1 year and 7 months, and

> will be on

> Medicare next May. It's damned worthwhile to do.

> Just advise you main

> GI HCV Doc of what you're doing, because they may

> contact him. And

> don't let your spouse ever get caught taking out the

> trash, lifting

> anything from the yard, etc. Whatever you've put

> down in the

> application is how he must behave, so it's not worth

> telling a bunch

> of lies. That could be fraud against the US

> Government! Good luck,

> and please ask any other questions. Just start with

> Google " SS

> Disability " and you'll find the site to apply.

>

>

> >

> > Hello all,

> > I am also seeking any advice on obtaining SSI or

> disability for my

> > husband..who has cirrhosis and in need of

> transplant.

> > thank you in advance..

> >

> >

> >

> > **************************************See AOL's

> top rated recipes

> >

>

(http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004)

> >

>

>

>

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Rick-

Thank you so much for this email!!! We have been

trying to get my husband on disability for 5 years

now. He was denied once and we are going back at it

again. The first denial was bogus since even the

industrial therapist said he could not work.

Thank you again for your post and thank you everyone

for your posts too-it helps us alot!

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!

Kathy

--- Rick Kipp wrote:

> I'm on 100% Social Security Disability from HCV, and

> received a nice

> back payment check, too. What I did was apply online

> first. First,

> you should put down ALL his symptoms (ability to

> walk, think, motor

> skills, bend & lift, etc. Then, make sure you put

> all the mental

> aspects he is suffering from, like sleep problems,

> memory loss,

> confusion, ability to drive, cook, do laundry, and

> generally how he

> can and can't take care of himself. After that, I

> went to a SS

> attorney specializing in this stuff. They were going

> to charge

> something like 25%, but ended charging me $750.00,

> as I did all the

> work myself and it was approved the first time,

> which is rare.

> Usually they reject you the first time for some b.s.

> reason and make

> you reapply. That's why I had the attorney's, in

> case they rejected

> me. So maybe you don't need an attorney right away,

> but you can see

> if you can get a free 1 hour consultation, The

> sooner you apply, the

> better, because they'll only go back so far in time

> for your eligible

> date (and back pay date) which is something like 18

> months or 2

> years. Once approved, you are also eligible for

> Medicare after 2

> years from the elegibility date, no matter what your

> age. I'm 61,

> have been receiving SSD for 1 year and 7 months, and

> will be on

> Medicare next May. It's damned worthwhile to do.

> Just advise you main

> GI HCV Doc of what you're doing, because they may

> contact him. And

> don't let your spouse ever get caught taking out the

> trash, lifting

> anything from the yard, etc. Whatever you've put

> down in the

> application is how he must behave, so it's not worth

> telling a bunch

> of lies. That could be fraud against the US

> Government! Good luck,

> and please ask any other questions. Just start with

> Google " SS

> Disability " and you'll find the site to apply.

>

>

> >

> > Hello all,

> > I am also seeking any advice on obtaining SSI or

> disability for my

> > husband..who has cirrhosis and in need of

> transplant.

> > thank you in advance..

> >

> >

> >

> > **************************************See AOL's

> top rated recipes

> >

>

(http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004)

> >

>

>

>

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Yes, I got a very healthy check when it was finally accepted. I think perserverence is the key, it seems most people will get approved if they just hang in and really have something going on.

Sharon in NW WashingtonAll I have seen teaches me to trust in the Creator for all that I have not seen. Ralph Waldo Emerson

Re: Re: ssdi and disability

i also had a lawyer and i hd o prbl but lots of people do for diff reasons, but you allways get approved the 2nd time around, it is retroactive from the day you apply ssi goes by yr income and need i was denyed that and still am, but ssdisability i got they look at yr work history etc,,,and yr state to determine yr amt i am in mass , my sister got lung cancer 2 yrs ago and got it the first time out ssd that is and she lives in nevada she wasnt eligible for ssi because again based on need and her husband made a pretty gd pay,also you could allwas apply yr self lots of questions i mean alot call and they will go over a few things with you on the phone and send you the app if yr denied its ok, cause they still go by the date of when you appled then you could get a lawyer a social sec lawyer, either way as i told my sister you have nothing to loose good luck joyce

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I didn't mean it like I said it. THere were many denials and more filed paperwork in those two years, it just took that long for the whole process to be completed.Sharon in NW WashingtonAll I have seen teaches me to trust in the Creator for all that I have not seen. Ralph Waldo Emerson Re: ssdi and disability> > > Really good information on SSDI and Disability, Rick! As someone > with some experience with SSDI, I would like to point out that the > main reason that SSDI is denied, at first, is because people do not > fill out the paperwork properly the first time. They are not BS > reasons! Mine went through the first time, but only because my wife > and I were overly verbose in answering any and all questions, no > matter how mundane, with thorough answers. SSDI needs all the > information they ask for in the forms, even if the applicant does not > think it relevant. Remember, you are dealing with government > bureaucrats whose only job is to check and make sure the forms are > answered fully. If not, they are almost automatically denied. An > attorney does help you to get all of the information necessary, but > it is definitely possible for the average person to fill out the > forms and get approved, if you qualify, and, if you follow all of the > instructions and completely answer all of the questions. Just my > humble opinion, though.> > Thanks, also, for the information about medicare after two (2) > years. I did not know that and the info gives me some reassurance as > to my health insurance in the future as I am only 43.> > Thanks again for the info.> > Tony>It's a pleasure having you join in our conversations. We hope you have found the support you need with us. If you are using email for your posts, for easy access to our group, just click the link-- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Hepatitis_C_Central/Happy Posting

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Same with me Sharron,, they kept denying me and my doc kept telling me not to give up,, that some idiot sitting at a desk with an 8th grade education was determining my case and that HE would fight with me all the way ,, and he did! They kept saying that I could "sort potato chips" or "watch TV for money" etc,, telling me to work at stupid things that were not even available,,it was awful,, and I developed an ulcer over all the stress and worry of this,, and finally , when it went before the administrative law judge, HE agreed with me, my doc, my rheumy, and even the shrink that the state sent me to that I could NOT work!.. and like I said in a previous post, HE , the judge was

just appalled that they refused to take the word of the docs who were actually treating me and took the word of someone sitting at a desk that had never laid eyes on me who just believed that hep c was not a debilitating disease,, it was an awful time and they repeated it at 18 months,, they tried to send me to another doc who was over an hours drive away, was a chiropractor who was not required to read any of my past medical history,, they were trying to get some other doc to say that I was not disabled so they could stop my disability checks,, so I went and saw an attorney who told me NOT to go and see their doc, that I had just had my gall bladder removed and they'd done another biopsy of my liver and it was still very sick,, he told me some of the laws about disability that I'd never heard of that those who work for the government dont want us to know about ,, ie: if you have never had a desk job in the past 10 years, and you turn 50 while on disability, they

CANNOT FORCE you to work a desk job!!! I had worked as a 911 paramedic ( very physical) and worked in a salon doing hair and nails as well as teaching the EMT program at the community college,, all very physical jobs that were done on my feet, so they could NOT make me 'watch TV for money" or sort potato chips etc,, and when I told them what I knew and sited the law reference to each, I was immediately approved with no further problems,,, but only after the jerk at the office who was trying to send me to that other doc called and threatened me twice,, but going and seeing this attorney who only handles ssdi cases was very very helpful to me and had I gone to see this doc, there is a chance that she may have said I could go back to work,, and let me tell you right now, there is no way I could work anymore... No employer would hire me knowing Im on morphine, medical cannabis , needing to get into the hot tub several times per day and needing a good 14-16 hours sleep

every day... and having serious short term memory would or could make for serious business problems for who ever would be silly enough to hire me, lol.. it was a horrible time in my life,, trying to get my ssdi,, and after working 3 nearly full time jobs paying in huge amounts to soc sec,, it was really frustrating to fight the insane thinking that hcv is not a disabling disease.... Im sure that had I been an ILLEGAL immigrant, they'd be happy to give me anything I asked for, but being a LEGAL American citizen, they feel its ok to take all that money FROM me each and every month I worked and refuse to give it back when I needed it,, especially since the American Red Cross is the company responsible for my disease...... grrrrrrr............... SHARON CROSBY

wrote: I didn't mean it like I said it. THere were many denials and more filed paperwork in those two years, it just took that long for the whole process to be completed. Sharon in NW WashingtonAll I have seen teaches me to trust in the Creator for all that I have not seen. Ralph Waldo Emerson Re: ssdi and disability> > > Really good information on SSDI and Disability, Rick! As someone > with some experience with SSDI, I would like to point out that the > main reason that SSDI is denied, at first, is because people do not > fill out the paperwork properly the first time. They are not BS > reasons! Mine went through the first time, but only because my wife > and I were overly verbose in answering any and all questions, no > matter how mundane, with thorough answers. SSDI needs all the > information they ask for in the forms, even if the applicant does not > think it relevant. Remember, you are dealing with government > bureaucrats whose only job is to check

and make sure the forms are > answered fully. If not, they are almost automatically denied. An > attorney does help you to get all of the information necessary, but > it is definitely possible for the average person to fill out the > forms and get approved, if you qualify, and, if you follow all of the > instructions and completely answer all of the questions. Just my > humble opinion, though.> > Thanks, also, for the information about medicare after two (2) > years. I did not know that and the info gives me some reassurance as > to my health insurance in the future as I am only 43.> > Thanks again for the info.> > Tony>It's a pleasure having you join in our conversations. We

hope you have found the support you need with us. If you are using email for your posts, for easy access to our group, just click the link-- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Hepatitis_C_Central/Happy Posting

[Guest guest]

Same with me Sharron,, they kept denying me and my doc kept telling me not to give up,, that some idiot sitting at a desk with an 8th grade education was determining my case and that HE would fight with me all the way ,, and he did! They kept saying that I could "sort potato chips" or "watch TV for money" etc,, telling me to work at stupid things that were not even available,,it was awful,, and I developed an ulcer over all the stress and worry of this,, and finally , when it went before the administrative law judge, HE agreed with me, my doc, my rheumy, and even the shrink that the state sent me to that I could NOT work!.. and like I said in a previous post, HE , the judge was

just appalled that they refused to take the word of the docs who were actually treating me and took the word of someone sitting at a desk that had never laid eyes on me who just believed that hep c was not a debilitating disease,, it was an awful time and they repeated it at 18 months,, they tried to send me to another doc who was over an hours drive away, was a chiropractor who was not required to read any of my past medical history,, they were trying to get some other doc to say that I was not disabled so they could stop my disability checks,, so I went and saw an attorney who told me NOT to go and see their doc, that I had just had my gall bladder removed and they'd done another biopsy of my liver and it was still very sick,, he told me some of the laws about disability that I'd never heard of that those who work for the government dont want us to know about ,, ie: if you have never had a desk job in the past 10 years, and you turn 50 while on disability, they

CANNOT FORCE you to work a desk job!!! I had worked as a 911 paramedic ( very physical) and worked in a salon doing hair and nails as well as teaching the EMT program at the community college,, all very physical jobs that were done on my feet, so they could NOT make me 'watch TV for money" or sort potato chips etc,, and when I told them what I knew and sited the law reference to each, I was immediately approved with no further problems,,, but only after the jerk at the office who was trying to send me to that other doc called and threatened me twice,, but going and seeing this attorney who only handles ssdi cases was very very helpful to me and had I gone to see this doc, there is a chance that she may have said I could go back to work,, and let me tell you right now, there is no way I could work anymore... No employer would hire me knowing Im on morphine, medical cannabis , needing to get into the hot tub several times per day and needing a good 14-16 hours sleep

every day... and having serious short term memory would or could make for serious business problems for who ever would be silly enough to hire me, lol.. it was a horrible time in my life,, trying to get my ssdi,, and after working 3 nearly full time jobs paying in huge amounts to soc sec,, it was really frustrating to fight the insane thinking that hcv is not a disabling disease.... Im sure that had I been an ILLEGAL immigrant, they'd be happy to give me anything I asked for, but being a LEGAL American citizen, they feel its ok to take all that money FROM me each and every month I worked and refuse to give it back when I needed it,, especially since the American Red Cross is the company responsible for my disease...... grrrrrrr............... SHARON CROSBY

wrote: I didn't mean it like I said it. THere were many denials and more filed paperwork in those two years, it just took that long for the whole process to be completed. Sharon in NW WashingtonAll I have seen teaches me to trust in the Creator for all that I have not seen. Ralph Waldo Emerson Re: ssdi and disability> > > Really good information on SSDI and Disability, Rick! As someone > with some experience with SSDI, I would like to point out that the > main reason that SSDI is denied, at first, is because people do not > fill out the paperwork properly the first time. They are not BS > reasons! Mine went through the first time, but only because my wife > and I were overly verbose in answering any and all questions, no > matter how mundane, with thorough answers. SSDI needs all the > information they ask for in the forms, even if the applicant does not > think it relevant. Remember, you are dealing with government > bureaucrats whose only job is to check

and make sure the forms are > answered fully. If not, they are almost automatically denied. An > attorney does help you to get all of the information necessary, but > it is definitely possible for the average person to fill out the > forms and get approved, if you qualify, and, if you follow all of the > instructions and completely answer all of the questions. Just my > humble opinion, though.> > Thanks, also, for the information about medicare after two (2) > years. I did not know that and the info gives me some reassurance as > to my health insurance in the future as I am only 43.> > Thanks again for the info.> > Tony>It's a pleasure having you join in our conversations. We

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Can you live on SSDI?

From: Hepatitis_C_Central [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On Behalf Of Jackie on

Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007

4:40 PM

To: Hepatitis_C_Central

Subject: Re:

Re: ssdi and disability

Same with me Sharron,, they kept denying me and my

doc kept telling me not to give up,, that some idiot sitting at a desk with

an 8th grade education was determining my case and that HE would fight with

me all the way ,, and he did!

They kept saying that I could " sort potato

chips " or " watch TV for money " etc,, telling me to work at

stupid things that were not even available,,it was awful,, and I developed an

ulcer over all the stress and worry of this,, and finally , when it went

before the administrative law judge, HE agreed with me, my doc, my rheumy,

and even the shrink that the state sent me to that I could NOT work!.. and

like I said in a previous post, HE , the judge was just appalled that they

refused to take the word of the docs who were actually treating me and took

the word of someone sitting at a desk that had never laid eyes on me who just

believed that hep c was not a debilitating disease,, it was an awful time and

they repeated it at 18 months,, they tried to send me to another doc who was

over an hours drive away, was a chiropractor who was not required to read any

of my past medical history,, they were trying to get some other doc to say

that I was not disabled so they could stop my disability checks,, so I went

and saw an attorney who told me NOT to go and see their doc, that I had just

had my gall bladder removed and they'd done another biopsy of my liver and it

was still very sick,, he told me some of the laws about disability that I'd

never heard of that those who work for the government dont want us to know

about ,, ie: if you have never had a desk job in the past 10 years, and

you turn 50 while on disability, they CANNOT FORCE you to work a desk job!!!

I had worked as a 911 paramedic ( very physical) and worked in a salon doing

hair and nails as well as teaching the EMT program at the community college,,

all very physical jobs that were done on my feet, so they could NOT make me

'watch TV for money " or sort potato chips etc,, and when I told them

what I knew and sited the law reference to each, I was immediately approved

with no further problems,,, but only after the jerk at the office who was

trying to send me to that other doc called and threatened me twice,, but

going and seeing this attorney who only handles ssdi cases was very very

helpful to me and had I gone to see this doc, there is a chance that she may

have said I could go back to work,, and let me tell you right now, there is

no way I could work anymore... No employer would hire me knowing Im on

morphine, medical cannabis , needing to get into the hot tub several times

per day and needing a good 14-16 hours sleep every day... and having serious

short term memory would or could make for serious business problems for who

ever would be silly enough to hire me, lol..

it was a horrible time in my life,, trying to get my

ssdi,, and after working 3 nearly full time jobs paying in huge amounts to

soc sec,, it was really frustrating to fight the insane thinking that hcv is

not a disabling disease.... Im sure that had I been an ILLEGAL immigrant,

they'd be happy to give me anything I asked for, but being a LEGAL American

citizen, they feel its ok to take all that money FROM me each and every month

I worked and refuse to give it back when I needed it,, especially since the

American Red Cross is the company responsible for my disease......

grrrrrrr...............

SHARON CROSBY

<csharonxoxomsn> wrote:

I didn't mean it like I said it. THere were many denials and more

filed paperwork in those two years, it just took that long for the whole

process to be completed.

Sharon in NW Washington

All I have seen teaches me to trust in the Creator for all that I have not

seen. Ralph Waldo Emerson

Re: ssdi and disability

>

>

> Really good information on SSDI and Disability, Rick! As

someone

> with some experience with SSDI, I would like to point out that

the

> main reason that SSDI is denied, at first, is because people

do

not

> fill out the paperwork properly the first time. They are

not BS

> reasons! Mine went through the first time, but only

because my

wife

> and I were overly verbose in answering any and all questions,

no

> matter how mundane, with thorough answers. SSDI needs

all the

> information they ask for in the forms, even if the applicant

does

not

> think it relevant. Remember, you are dealing with

government

> bureaucrats whose only job is to check and make sure the forms

are

> answered fully. If not, they are almost automatically

denied.

An

> attorney does help you to get all of the information

necessary,

but

> it is definitely possible for the average person to fill out

the

> forms and get approved, if you qualify, and, if you follow all

of

the

> instructions and completely answer all of the questions.

Just my

> humble opinion, though.

>

> Thanks, also, for the information about medicare after two (2)

> years. I did not know that and the info gives me some

reassurance as

> to my health insurance in the future as I am only 43.

>

> Thanks again for the info.

>

> Tony

>

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Can you live on SSDI?

From: Hepatitis_C_Central [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On Behalf Of Jackie on

Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007

4:40 PM

To: Hepatitis_C_Central

Subject: Re:

Re: ssdi and disability

Same with me Sharron,, they kept denying me and my

doc kept telling me not to give up,, that some idiot sitting at a desk with

an 8th grade education was determining my case and that HE would fight with

me all the way ,, and he did!

They kept saying that I could " sort potato

chips " or " watch TV for money " etc,, telling me to work at

stupid things that were not even available,,it was awful,, and I developed an

ulcer over all the stress and worry of this,, and finally , when it went

before the administrative law judge, HE agreed with me, my doc, my rheumy,

and even the shrink that the state sent me to that I could NOT work!.. and

like I said in a previous post, HE , the judge was just appalled that they

refused to take the word of the docs who were actually treating me and took

the word of someone sitting at a desk that had never laid eyes on me who just

believed that hep c was not a debilitating disease,, it was an awful time and

they repeated it at 18 months,, they tried to send me to another doc who was

over an hours drive away, was a chiropractor who was not required to read any

of my past medical history,, they were trying to get some other doc to say

that I was not disabled so they could stop my disability checks,, so I went

and saw an attorney who told me NOT to go and see their doc, that I had just

had my gall bladder removed and they'd done another biopsy of my liver and it

was still very sick,, he told me some of the laws about disability that I'd

never heard of that those who work for the government dont want us to know

about ,, ie: if you have never had a desk job in the past 10 years, and

you turn 50 while on disability, they CANNOT FORCE you to work a desk job!!!

I had worked as a 911 paramedic ( very physical) and worked in a salon doing

hair and nails as well as teaching the EMT program at the community college,,

all very physical jobs that were done on my feet, so they could NOT make me

'watch TV for money " or sort potato chips etc,, and when I told them

what I knew and sited the law reference to each, I was immediately approved

with no further problems,,, but only after the jerk at the office who was

trying to send me to that other doc called and threatened me twice,, but

going and seeing this attorney who only handles ssdi cases was very very

helpful to me and had I gone to see this doc, there is a chance that she may

have said I could go back to work,, and let me tell you right now, there is

no way I could work anymore... No employer would hire me knowing Im on

morphine, medical cannabis , needing to get into the hot tub several times

per day and needing a good 14-16 hours sleep every day... and having serious

short term memory would or could make for serious business problems for who

ever would be silly enough to hire me, lol..

it was a horrible time in my life,, trying to get my

ssdi,, and after working 3 nearly full time jobs paying in huge amounts to

soc sec,, it was really frustrating to fight the insane thinking that hcv is

not a disabling disease.... Im sure that had I been an ILLEGAL immigrant,

they'd be happy to give me anything I asked for, but being a LEGAL American

citizen, they feel its ok to take all that money FROM me each and every month

I worked and refuse to give it back when I needed it,, especially since the

American Red Cross is the company responsible for my disease......

grrrrrrr...............

SHARON CROSBY

<csharonxoxomsn> wrote:

I didn't mean it like I said it. THere were many denials and more

filed paperwork in those two years, it just took that long for the whole

process to be completed.

Sharon in NW Washington

All I have seen teaches me to trust in the Creator for all that I have not

seen. Ralph Waldo Emerson

Re: ssdi and disability

>

>

> Really good information on SSDI and Disability, Rick! As

someone

> with some experience with SSDI, I would like to point out that

the

> main reason that SSDI is denied, at first, is because people

do

not

> fill out the paperwork properly the first time. They are

not BS

> reasons! Mine went through the first time, but only

because my

wife

> and I were overly verbose in answering any and all questions,

no

> matter how mundane, with thorough answers. SSDI needs

all the

> information they ask for in the forms, even if the applicant

does

not

> think it relevant. Remember, you are dealing with

government

> bureaucrats whose only job is to check and make sure the forms

are

> answered fully. If not, they are almost automatically

denied.

An

> attorney does help you to get all of the information

necessary,

but

> it is definitely possible for the average person to fill out

the

> forms and get approved, if you qualify, and, if you follow all

of

the

> instructions and completely answer all of the questions.

Just my

> humble opinion, though.

>

> Thanks, also, for the information about medicare after two (2)

> years. I did not know that and the info gives me some

reassurance as

> to my health insurance in the future as I am only 43.

>

> Thanks again for the info.

>

> Tony

>

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NOPE, I was a stay at home mom most of the time with three boys in three years. I didn't pay enough in to get paid back. I bring home less than 600 after paying for medicare and my script coverage.

Sharon in NW WashingtonAll I have seen teaches me to trust in the Creator for all that I have not seen. Ralph Waldo Emerson

Can you live on SSDI?

Jackie

[Guest guest]

NOPE, I was a stay at home mom most of the time with three boys in three years. I didn't pay enough in to get paid back. I bring home less than 600 after paying for medicare and my script coverage.

Sharon in NW WashingtonAll I have seen teaches me to trust in the Creator for all that I have not seen. Ralph Waldo Emerson

Can you live on SSDI?

Jackie

[Guest guest]

NOPE, I was a stay at home mom most of the time with three boys in three years. I didn't pay enough in to get paid back. I bring home less than 600 after paying for medicare and my script coverage.Sharon in NW WashingtonAll I have seen teaches me to trust in the Creator for all that I have not seen. Ralph Waldo EmersonCan you live on SSDI?

[Guest guest]

NOPE, I was a stay at home mom most of the time with three boys in three years. I didn't pay enough in to get paid back. I bring home less than 600 after paying for medicare and my script coverage.Sharon in NW WashingtonAll I have seen teaches me to trust in the Creator for all that I have not seen. Ralph Waldo EmersonCan you live on SSDI?

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Doesnt it take at least 2 denials before you go the administrative judge? I was denied 3 times before we got before the judge.. Tony wrote: Sharon,Having an attorney fill out the paperwork and then having to wait for two (2) years for a court date are separate things. First, you fill out the required paperwork thoroughly, hopefully. In my experience, it can take anywhere from one month to six months before you get an answer on whether you get SSDI. Second, if you are initially denied SSDI, you have a right to appeal. You generally do this in front of an administrative judge. This is the part that is generaly two years from when you file. The timeframe can be a few months sooner or later, but around two years, basically.By the way, I should have placed a caveat in my first response, just because you file all of your paperwork correctly and thoroughly does not mean that your doctor, or your attorney for that matter, did. Just as in insurance work, social security

could want something that the doctor thinks they have sufficiently provided information for, but SS thinks otherwise. That situation can sometimes take months to straighten out. Bottom line is, get a copy of what your doctor sends to SS and see if they have filled the paperwork out correctly. Granted, you may not know what you are looking at (I sure do not always know), but read the questions and answers and see if they make some semblence of sense. Also, make sure that the doctor answered all of the questions. The same goes with attorneys. Get a copy of your paperwork and check to see if the attorney filled out all of the forms thoroughly and correctly. You should know where you lived and worked for the past 10 years, who your doctors were in the last 10 years, what medications you are taking, job duties that are problematic for you and how they relate to Hep C, etc. Further, what are your reasons for filing

for SSDI, i.e., trouble with memory, concentrating, walking, talking on the phone, writing notes, sleeping, ordinary daily chores, etc. Why do these things causing you problems and how to these things relate to Hep C and why you should get SSDI. Social Security work is a specialized area. If you use an attorney, get one whose practice entails a good majority of social security-related work. Ask around and don't be afraid to check with more than one attorney. Being comfortable and confident with your attorney, if you go that route, is very important. Finally, get as much help from your doctor in filling out the SSDI forms as possible. I cannot stress enough that you should get copies of all of your records and ask questions of the doctor(s) until you understand exactly what is going on. You will be better able to assist an attorney with filling out the paperwork this way, or better prepared to fill out the

paperwork yourself, if you go that route. Also, it is possible for you to initially do all of the work without an attorney, then hire one for the appeal, if necessary. Just a thought!I hope this answers some questions for the group.Tony>> I had an attorney to fill out and file all my paperwork and it STILL took me 2 years to get before the judge.> Sharon in NW Washington> All I have seen teaches me to trust in the Creator for all that I have not seen. Ralph Waldo Emerson> Re: ssdi and disability> > > Really good information on SSDI and Disability, Rick! As someone > with some experience with SSDI, I would like to point out that the > main reason that SSDI is denied, at first, is because people do not > fill out the paperwork properly the first time. They are not BS > reasons! Mine went through the first time, but only because my wife > and I were overly verbose in answering any and all questions, no > matter how mundane, with thorough answers. SSDI needs all the > information they ask for in the forms, even if the applicant does not > think it relevant. Remember, you are dealing with

government > bureaucrats whose only job is to check and make sure the forms are > answered fully. If not, they are almost automatically denied. An > attorney does help you to get all of the information necessary, but > it is definitely possible for the average person to fill out the > forms and get approved, if you qualify, and, if you follow all of the > instructions and completely answer all of the questions. Just my > humble opinion, though.> > Thanks, also, for the information about medicare after two (2) > years. I did not know that and the info gives me some reassurance as > to my health insurance in the future as I am only 43.> > Thanks again for the info.> > Tony>Jackie

[Guest guest]

Doesnt it take at least 2 denials before you go the administrative judge? I was denied 3 times before we got before the judge.. Tony wrote: Sharon,Having an attorney fill out the paperwork and then having to wait for two (2) years for a court date are separate things. First, you fill out the required paperwork thoroughly, hopefully. In my experience, it can take anywhere from one month to six months before you get an answer on whether you get SSDI. Second, if you are initially denied SSDI, you have a right to appeal. You generally do this in front of an administrative judge. This is the part that is generaly two years from when you file. The timeframe can be a few months sooner or later, but around two years, basically.By the way, I should have placed a caveat in my first response, just because you file all of your paperwork correctly and thoroughly does not mean that your doctor, or your attorney for that matter, did. Just as in insurance work, social security

could want something that the doctor thinks they have sufficiently provided information for, but SS thinks otherwise. That situation can sometimes take months to straighten out. Bottom line is, get a copy of what your doctor sends to SS and see if they have filled the paperwork out correctly. Granted, you may not know what you are looking at (I sure do not always know), but read the questions and answers and see if they make some semblence of sense. Also, make sure that the doctor answered all of the questions. The same goes with attorneys. Get a copy of your paperwork and check to see if the attorney filled out all of the forms thoroughly and correctly. You should know where you lived and worked for the past 10 years, who your doctors were in the last 10 years, what medications you are taking, job duties that are problematic for you and how they relate to Hep C, etc. Further, what are your reasons for filing

for SSDI, i.e., trouble with memory, concentrating, walking, talking on the phone, writing notes, sleeping, ordinary daily chores, etc. Why do these things causing you problems and how to these things relate to Hep C and why you should get SSDI. Social Security work is a specialized area. If you use an attorney, get one whose practice entails a good majority of social security-related work. Ask around and don't be afraid to check with more than one attorney. Being comfortable and confident with your attorney, if you go that route, is very important. Finally, get as much help from your doctor in filling out the SSDI forms as possible. I cannot stress enough that you should get copies of all of your records and ask questions of the doctor(s) until you understand exactly what is going on. You will be better able to assist an attorney with filling out the paperwork this way, or better prepared to fill out the

paperwork yourself, if you go that route. Also, it is possible for you to initially do all of the work without an attorney, then hire one for the appeal, if necessary. Just a thought!I hope this answers some questions for the group.Tony>> I had an attorney to fill out and file all my paperwork and it STILL took me 2 years to get before the judge.> Sharon in NW Washington> All I have seen teaches me to trust in the Creator for all that I have not seen. Ralph Waldo Emerson> Re: ssdi and disability> > > Really good information on SSDI and Disability, Rick! As someone > with some experience with SSDI, I would like to point out that the > main reason that SSDI is denied, at first, is because people do not > fill out the paperwork properly the first time. They are not BS > reasons! Mine went through the first time, but only because my wife > and I were overly verbose in answering any and all questions, no > matter how mundane, with thorough answers. SSDI needs all the > information they ask for in the forms, even if the applicant does not > think it relevant. Remember, you are dealing with

government > bureaucrats whose only job is to check and make sure the forms are > answered fully. If not, they are almost automatically denied. An > attorney does help you to get all of the information necessary, but > it is definitely possible for the average person to fill out the > forms and get approved, if you qualify, and, if you follow all of the > instructions and completely answer all of the questions. Just my > humble opinion, though.> > Thanks, also, for the information about medicare after two (2) > years. I did not know that and the info gives me some reassurance as > to my health insurance in the future as I am only 43.> > Thanks again for the info.> > Tony>Jackie

[Guest guest]

No, one does not always get approved the 2nd time around,, I was denied 3 times before I could even appeal to the administrative law judge... I know many ppl who are denied many times, and so I just need to make sure that everyone knows that NO, you do NOT ALWAYS get approved the second time.. joyceann silva wrote: i also had a lawyer and i hd o prbl but lots of people do for diff reasons, but you allways get approved the 2nd time around, it is retroactive from the day you apply ssi goes by yr income and need i was denyed that and still am, but ssdisability i got they look at yr work history etc,,,and yr state to determine yr amt i am in mass , my sister got lung cancer 2 yrs ago and got it the first time out ssd that is and she lives in nevada she wasnt eligible for ssi because again based on need and her husband made a pretty gd pay,also you could allwas apply yr self lots of questions i mean alot call and they will go over a few things with you on the phone and send you

the app if yr denied its ok, cause they still go by the date of when you appled then you could get a lawyer a social sec lawyer, either way as i told my sister you have nothing to loose good luck joyceSHARON CROSBY <csharonxoxomsn> wrote: I had an attorney to fill out and file all my paperwork and it STILL took me 2 years to get before the judge. Sharon in NW WashingtonAll I have seen teaches me to trust in the Creator for all that I have not seen. Ralph Waldo Emerson Re: ssdi and disability Really good information on SSDI and Disability, Rick! As someone with some experience with SSDI, I would like to point out that the main reason that SSDI is denied, at first, is because people do not fill out the paperwork properly the first time. They are not BS reasons! Mine went through the first time, but only because my wife and I were overly verbose in answering any and all questions, no matter how mundane, with thorough answers. SSDI needs all the information they ask for in the forms, even if the applicant does not

think it relevant. Remember, you are dealing with government bureaucrats whose only job is to check and make sure the forms are answered fully. If not, they are almost automatically denied. An attorney does help you to get all of the information necessary, but it is definitely possible for the average person to fill out the forms and get approved, if you qualify, and, if you follow all of the instructions and completely answer all of the questions. Just my humble opinion, though.Thanks, also, for the information about medicare after two (2) years. I did not know that and the info gives me some reassurance as to my health insurance in the future as I am only 43.Thanks again for the info.Tony Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. Jackie

[Guest guest]

No, one does not always get approved the 2nd time around,, I was denied 3 times before I could even appeal to the administrative law judge... I know many ppl who are denied many times, and so I just need to make sure that everyone knows that NO, you do NOT ALWAYS get approved the second time.. joyceann silva wrote: i also had a lawyer and i hd o prbl but lots of people do for diff reasons, but you allways get approved the 2nd time around, it is retroactive from the day you apply ssi goes by yr income and need i was denyed that and still am, but ssdisability i got they look at yr work history etc,,,and yr state to determine yr amt i am in mass , my sister got lung cancer 2 yrs ago and got it the first time out ssd that is and she lives in nevada she wasnt eligible for ssi because again based on need and her husband made a pretty gd pay,also you could allwas apply yr self lots of questions i mean alot call and they will go over a few things with you on the phone and send you

the app if yr denied its ok, cause they still go by the date of when you appled then you could get a lawyer a social sec lawyer, either way as i told my sister you have nothing to loose good luck joyceSHARON CROSBY <csharonxoxomsn> wrote: I had an attorney to fill out and file all my paperwork and it STILL took me 2 years to get before the judge. Sharon in NW WashingtonAll I have seen teaches me to trust in the Creator for all that I have not seen. Ralph Waldo Emerson Re: ssdi and disability Really good information on SSDI and Disability, Rick! As someone with some experience with SSDI, I would like to point out that the main reason that SSDI is denied, at first, is because people do not fill out the paperwork properly the first time. They are not BS reasons! Mine went through the first time, but only because my wife and I were overly verbose in answering any and all questions, no matter how mundane, with thorough answers. SSDI needs all the information they ask for in the forms, even if the applicant does not

think it relevant. Remember, you are dealing with government bureaucrats whose only job is to check and make sure the forms are answered fully. If not, they are almost automatically denied. An attorney does help you to get all of the information necessary, but it is definitely possible for the average person to fill out the forms and get approved, if you qualify, and, if you follow all of the instructions and completely answer all of the questions. Just my humble opinion, though.Thanks, also, for the information about medicare after two (2) years. I did not know that and the info gives me some reassurance as to my health insurance in the future as I am only 43.Thanks again for the info.Tony Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. Jackie

[Guest guest]

Well,, as Sheena says,, "That sucks swamp water"...... SHARON CROSBY wrote: NOPE, I was a stay at home mom most of the time with three boys in three years. I didn't pay enough in to get paid back. I bring home less than 600 after paying for medicare and my script coverage. Sharon in NW WashingtonAll I have seen teaches me to trust in the Creator for all that I have not seen. Ralph Waldo Emerson Can you live on SSDI? Jackie

[Guest guest]

yes,, I guess Im one of the very lucky ones,, I have my ssdi Plus my long term disability that was a paid medical benefit from the ambulance service I worked for AND my pers from my divorce from my ex fireman husband ( he never knew he was married, lol),, so yes, I can, but Im one of the very very lucky ones,,, my ssdi would surely put me in a much lower class of income if I had to rely on that solely,, but thank God I dont... Dorothy wrote: Can you live on SSDI? From: Hepatitis_C_Central [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On Behalf Of Jackie onSent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 4:40 PMTo: Hepatitis_C_Central Subject: Re: Re: ssdi and disability Same with me Sharron,, they kept denying me and my doc kept telling me not to give up,, that some idiot sitting at a desk with an 8th grade education was determining my case and that HE would fight with me all the way ,, and he did! They kept saying that I could "sort potato chips" or "watch TV for money" etc,, telling me to work at stupid things that were not even available,,it was awful,, and I developed an ulcer over all the stress and worry of this,, and finally , when it went before the administrative law judge, HE agreed with me, my doc, my rheumy, and even the shrink

that the state sent me to that I could NOT work!.. and like I said in a previous post, HE , the judge was just appalled that they refused to take the word of the docs who were actually treating me and took the word of someone sitting at a desk that had never laid eyes on me who just believed that hep c was not a debilitating disease,, it was an awful time and they repeated it at 18 months,, they tried to send me to another doc who was over an hours drive away, was a chiropractor who was not required to read any of my past medical history,, they were trying to get some other doc to say that I was not disabled so they could stop my disability checks,, so I went and saw an attorney who told me NOT to go and see their doc, that I had just had my gall bladder removed and they'd done another biopsy of my liver and it was still very sick,, he told me some of the laws about disability that I'd never heard of that those who work for the government dont want us to know about ,,

ie: if you have never had a desk job in the past 10 years, and you turn 50 while on disability, they CANNOT FORCE you to work a desk job!!! I had worked as a 911 paramedic ( very physical) and worked in a salon doing hair and nails as well as teaching the EMT program at the community college,, all very physical jobs that were done on my feet, so they could NOT make me 'watch TV for money" or sort potato chips etc,, and when I told them what I knew and sited the law reference to each, I was immediately approved with no further problems,,, but only after the jerk at the office who was trying to send me to that other doc called and threatened me twice,, but going and seeing this attorney who only handles ssdi cases was very very helpful to me and had I gone to see this doc, there is a chance that she may have said I could go back to work,, and let me tell you right now, there is no way I could work anymore... No employer would hire me knowing Im on morphine,

medical cannabis , needing to get into the hot tub several times per day and needing a good 14-16 hours sleep every day... and having serious short term memory would or could make for serious business problems for who ever would be silly enough to hire me, lol.. it was a horrible time in my life,, trying to get my ssdi,, and after working 3 nearly full time jobs paying in huge amounts to soc sec,, it was really frustrating to fight the insane thinking that hcv is not a disabling disease.... Im sure that had I been an ILLEGAL immigrant, they'd be happy to give me anything I asked for, but being a LEGAL American citizen, they feel its ok to take all that money FROM me each and every month I worked and refuse to give it back when I needed it,, especially since the American Red Cross is the company responsible for my disease......

grrrrrrr............... SHARON CROSBY <csharonxoxomsn> wrote: I didn't mean it like I said it. THere were many denials and more filed paperwork in those two years, it just took that long for the whole process to be completed. Sharon in NW WashingtonAll I have seen teaches me to trust in the Creator for all that I have not seen. Ralph Waldo Emerson Re: ssdi and disability> > > Really good information on SSDI and Disability, Rick! As someone > with some experience with SSDI, I would like to point out that the > main reason that SSDI is denied, at first, is because people do not > fill out the paperwork properly the first time. They are not BS > reasons! Mine went

through the first time, but only because my wife > and I were overly verbose in answering any and all questions, no > matter how mundane, with thorough answers. SSDI needs all the > information they ask for in the forms, even if the applicant does not > think it relevant. Remember, you are dealing with government > bureaucrats whose only job is to check and make sure the forms are > answered fully. If not, they are almost automatically denied. An > attorney does help you to get all of the information necessary, but > it is definitely possible for the average person to fill out the > forms and get approved, if you qualify, and, if you follow all of the > instructions and completely answer all of the questions. Just my

> humble opinion, though.> > Thanks, also, for the information about medicare after two (2) > years. I did not know that and the info gives me some reassurance as > to my health insurance in the future as I am only 43.> > Thanks again for the info.> > Tony>It's a pleasure having you join in our conversations. We hope you have found the support you need with us. If you are using email for your posts, for easy access to our group, just click the link-- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Hepatitis_C_Central/Happy Posting

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yes,, I guess Im one of the very lucky ones,, I have my ssdi Plus my long term disability that was a paid medical benefit from the ambulance service I worked for AND my pers from my divorce from my ex fireman husband ( he never knew he was married, lol),, so yes, I can, but Im one of the very very lucky ones,,, my ssdi would surely put me in a much lower class of income if I had to rely on that solely,, but thank God I dont... Dorothy wrote: Can you live on SSDI? From: Hepatitis_C_Central [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On Behalf Of Jackie onSent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 4:40 PMTo: Hepatitis_C_Central Subject: Re: Re: ssdi and disability Same with me Sharron,, they kept denying me and my doc kept telling me not to give up,, that some idiot sitting at a desk with an 8th grade education was determining my case and that HE would fight with me all the way ,, and he did! They kept saying that I could "sort potato chips" or "watch TV for money" etc,, telling me to work at stupid things that were not even available,,it was awful,, and I developed an ulcer over all the stress and worry of this,, and finally , when it went before the administrative law judge, HE agreed with me, my doc, my rheumy, and even the shrink

that the state sent me to that I could NOT work!.. and like I said in a previous post, HE , the judge was just appalled that they refused to take the word of the docs who were actually treating me and took the word of someone sitting at a desk that had never laid eyes on me who just believed that hep c was not a debilitating disease,, it was an awful time and they repeated it at 18 months,, they tried to send me to another doc who was over an hours drive away, was a chiropractor who was not required to read any of my past medical history,, they were trying to get some other doc to say that I was not disabled so they could stop my disability checks,, so I went and saw an attorney who told me NOT to go and see their doc, that I had just had my gall bladder removed and they'd done another biopsy of my liver and it was still very sick,, he told me some of the laws about disability that I'd never heard of that those who work for the government dont want us to know about ,,

ie: if you have never had a desk job in the past 10 years, and you turn 50 while on disability, they CANNOT FORCE you to work a desk job!!! I had worked as a 911 paramedic ( very physical) and worked in a salon doing hair and nails as well as teaching the EMT program at the community college,, all very physical jobs that were done on my feet, so they could NOT make me 'watch TV for money" or sort potato chips etc,, and when I told them what I knew and sited the law reference to each, I was immediately approved with no further problems,,, but only after the jerk at the office who was trying to send me to that other doc called and threatened me twice,, but going and seeing this attorney who only handles ssdi cases was very very helpful to me and had I gone to see this doc, there is a chance that she may have said I could go back to work,, and let me tell you right now, there is no way I could work anymore... No employer would hire me knowing Im on morphine,

medical cannabis , needing to get into the hot tub several times per day and needing a good 14-16 hours sleep every day... and having serious short term memory would or could make for serious business problems for who ever would be silly enough to hire me, lol.. it was a horrible time in my life,, trying to get my ssdi,, and after working 3 nearly full time jobs paying in huge amounts to soc sec,, it was really frustrating to fight the insane thinking that hcv is not a disabling disease.... Im sure that had I been an ILLEGAL immigrant, they'd be happy to give me anything I asked for, but being a LEGAL American citizen, they feel its ok to take all that money FROM me each and every month I worked and refuse to give it back when I needed it,, especially since the American Red Cross is the company responsible for my disease......

grrrrrrr............... SHARON CROSBY <csharonxoxomsn> wrote: I didn't mean it like I said it. THere were many denials and more filed paperwork in those two years, it just took that long for the whole process to be completed. Sharon in NW WashingtonAll I have seen teaches me to trust in the Creator for all that I have not seen. Ralph Waldo Emerson Re: ssdi and disability> > > Really good information on SSDI and Disability, Rick! As someone > with some experience with SSDI, I would like to point out that the > main reason that SSDI is denied, at first, is because people do not > fill out the paperwork properly the first time. They are not BS > reasons! Mine went

through the first time, but only because my wife > and I were overly verbose in answering any and all questions, no > matter how mundane, with thorough answers. SSDI needs all the > information they ask for in the forms, even if the applicant does not > think it relevant. Remember, you are dealing with government > bureaucrats whose only job is to check and make sure the forms are > answered fully. If not, they are almost automatically denied. An > attorney does help you to get all of the information necessary, but > it is definitely possible for the average person to fill out the > forms and get approved, if you qualify, and, if you follow all of the > instructions and completely answer all of the questions. Just my

> humble opinion, though.> > Thanks, also, for the information about medicare after two (2) > years. I did not know that and the info gives me some reassurance as > to my health insurance in the future as I am only 43.> > Thanks again for the info.> > Tony>It's a pleasure having you join in our conversations. We hope you have found the support you need with us. If you are using email for your posts, for easy access to our group, just click the link-- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Hepatitis_C_Central/Happy Posting

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I have to question if my income has an impact on

whether or not my husband gets disability? Anyone

know? It is hardly fair because he earned it and I am

in the negative nearly every month...

Thoughts?

--- Jackie on wrote:

>

> yes,, I guess Im one of the very lucky ones,, I

> have my ssdi Plus my long term disability that was a

> paid medical benefit from the ambulance service I

> worked for AND my pers from my divorce from my ex

> fireman husband ( he never knew he was married,

> lol),, so yes, I can, but Im one of the very very

> lucky ones,,, my ssdi would surely put me in a much

> lower class of income if I had to rely on that

> solely,, but thank God I dont...

>

>

>

> Dorothy wrote:

> Can you live on SSDI?

>

>

> ---------------------------------

>

> From: Hepatitis_C_Central

> [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On

> Behalf Of Jackie on

> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 4:40 PM

> To: Hepatitis_C_Central

> Subject: Re: Re: ssdi and

> disability

>

>

>

>

> Same with me Sharron,, they kept denying me and

> my doc kept telling me not to give up,, that some

> idiot sitting at a desk with an 8th grade education

> was determining my case and that HE would fight with

> me all the way ,, and he did!

>

> They kept saying that I could " sort potato

> chips " or " watch TV for money " etc,, telling me to

> work at stupid things that were not even

> available,,it was awful,, and I developed an ulcer

> over all the stress and worry of this,, and finally

> , when it went before the administrative law judge,

> HE agreed with me, my doc, my rheumy, and even the

> shrink that the state sent me to that I could NOT

> work!.. and like I said in a previous post, HE , the

> judge was just appalled that they refused to take

> the word of the docs who were actually treating me

> and took the word of someone sitting at a desk that

> had never laid eyes on me who just believed that hep

> c was not a debilitating disease,, it was an awful

> time and they repeated it at 18 months,, they tried

> to send me to another doc who was over an hours

> drive away, was a chiropractor who was not required

> to read any of my past medical history,, they were

> trying to get some other doc to say that I was not

> disabled so they could stop

> my disability checks,, so I went and saw an

> attorney who told me NOT to go and see their doc,

> that I had just had my gall bladder removed and

> they'd done another biopsy of my liver and it was

> still very sick,, he told me some of the laws about

> disability that I'd never heard of that those who

> work for the government dont want us to know about

> ,, ie: if you have never had a desk job in the past

> 10 years, and you turn 50 while on disability, they

> CANNOT FORCE you to work a desk job!!! I had worked

> as a 911 paramedic ( very physical) and worked in a

> salon doing hair and nails as well as teaching the

> EMT program at the community college,, all very

> physical jobs that were done on my feet, so they

> could NOT make me 'watch TV for money " or sort

> potato chips etc,, and when I told them what I knew

> and sited the law reference to each, I was

> immediately approved with no further problems,,, but

> only after the jerk at the office who was trying to

> send me to that other doc called and

> threatened me twice,, but going and seeing this

> attorney who only handles ssdi cases was very very

> helpful to me and had I gone to see this doc, there

> is a chance that she may have said I could go back

> to work,, and let me tell you right now, there is no

> way I could work anymore... No employer would hire

> me knowing Im on morphine, medical cannabis ,

> needing to get into the hot tub several times per

> day and needing a good 14-16 hours sleep every

> day... and having serious short term memory would or

> could make for serious business problems for who

> ever would be silly enough to hire me, lol..

>

> it was a horrible time in my life,, trying to

> get my ssdi,, and after working 3 nearly full time

> jobs paying in huge amounts to soc sec,, it was

> really frustrating to fight the insane thinking that

> hcv is not a disabling disease.... Im sure that had

> I been an ILLEGAL immigrant, they'd be happy to give

> me anything I asked for, but being a LEGAL American

> citizen, they feel its ok to take all that money

> FROM me each and every month I worked and refuse to

> give it back when I needed it,, especially since the

> American Red Cross is the company responsible for my

> disease...... grrrrrrr...............

>

>

>

>

> SHARON CROSBY wrote:

> I didn't mean it like I said it. THere

> were many denials and more filed paperwork in those

> two years, it just took that long for the whole

> process to be completed.

>

> Sharon in NW Washington

> All I have seen teaches me to trust in the Creator

> for all that I have not seen. Ralph Waldo Emerson

>

> Re: ssdi and

> disability

>

>

>

> Sharon,

>

> Having an attorney fill out the paperwork and then

> having to wait for

> two (2) years for a court date are separate things.

> First, you fill

> out the required paperwork thoroughly, hopefully.

> In my experience,

> it can take anywhere from one month to six months

> before you get an

> answer on whether you get SSDI. Second, if you are

> initially denied

> SSDI, you have a right to appeal. You generally do

> this in front of

> an administrative judge. This is the part that is

> generaly two years

> from when you file. The timeframe can be a few

> months sooner or

> later, but around two years, basically.

>

> By the way, I should have placed a caveat in my

> first response, just

> because you file all of your paperwork correctly and

> thoroughly does

> not mean that your doctor, or your attorney for that

> matter, did.

> Just as in insurance work, social security could

> want something that

> the doctor thinks they have sufficiently provided

> information for,

> but SS thinks otherwise. That situation can

> sometimes take months to

> straighten out. Bottom line is, get a copy of what

> your doctor sends

> to SS and see if they have filled the paperwork out

> correctly.

> Granted, you may not know what you are looking at (I

> sure do not

> always know), but read the questions and answers and

> see if they make

> some semblence of sense. Also, make sure that the

> doctor answered

> all of the questions.

>

> The same goes with attorneys. Get a copy of your

> paperwork and check

> to see if the attorney filled out all of the forms

> thoroughly and

> correctly. You should know where you lived and

> worked for the past

> 10 years, who your doctors were in the last 10

> years, what

> medications you are taking, job duties that are

> problematic for you

> and how they relate to Hep C, etc. Further, what

> are your reasons

> for filing for SSDI, i.e., trouble with memory,

> concentrating,

> walking, talking on the phone, writing notes,

> sleeping, ordinary

> daily chores, etc. Why do these things causing you

> problems and how

> to these things relate to Hep C and why you should

> get SSDI. Social

> Security work is a specialized area. If you use an

> attorney, get one

> whose practice entails a good majority of social

> security-related

> work. Ask around and don't be afraid to check with

> more than one

> attorney. Being comfortable and confident with your

> attorney, if you

> go that route, is very important.

>

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