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Yep, its ok for me. I bet its ok for others too. Post here. We will help! Also,

tell more about hubby who " just cant deal with " all of it?? Is that somehow a

familiar thing? Did dad handle your feelings same way?- jana

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Yep, its ok for me. I bet its ok for others too. Post here. We will help! Also,

tell more about hubby who " just cant deal with " all of it?? Is that somehow a

familiar thing? Did dad handle your feelings same way?- jana

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Hello! Welcome to this site. I, too am a new member. I am very

sorry to hear about the way your mother/Nada is behaving.

Remember,that your husband and kids always come first. Protecting

them and yourself is never a bad thing.

My nada has had one of the worst years ever. Her and my father got

divorced or shall I say are still trying to get divorced. My father

finally left, but the divorce is still not final.

In this past year she has pulled out all the stops. She thinks I

should take care of her (she lives 7 hours away.) She doesn't

believe that I've ever been there for her, she now says she doesn't

love me and never wants to have anything to with me again.

The book WOE (Walking on Eggshells) really helped me to understand

all the chaos. If you haven't read it please do. It is completely

worth it.

Whatever you do, remember you are not blame. You are not the one

with the problem. It is an illness that you did not create. Setting

your boundaries is the best thing you can do to help yourself and to

help her.

Peace and love,

>

> Hi!

>

> I am 38 years old woman and have 3 kids of my own (and fairly happy

> married too, can't believe it sometimes). I found out about my

mom's

> BP at the beginning of this year, after a terrible Christmas, and

it

> continued with almost a psychotic spring. These things have been

> going on as long as I can remember, but this one was the worst, she

> is just becoming more and more difficult when the years go by (she

is

> 60).

>

> I have 2 younger brothers and my parents are devorced ( 8 years

> ago ). We always thought the troubles we had in our FOO, were

because

> of mom and dad did not have a good marriage, and believed that it

> would stop after our parents got devorced. Well, it didn't! It was

so

> unbearable to listen to her going on about how terrible dad is,

> again, and being puzzled about why, when she did not see of talk to

> him in eight years. It got so crazy that she scared us bad, and we

> went to a crisis-center to get help. We were advised to set

> boundaries and we did it, after that we have not seen her, I know

at

> some point she will try to contact us and blame us for everything

> that has happened in her life, that is how she is, but I think that

I

> just can't deal with her anymore.

>

> I am feeling lonely with this all, although I can talk to my dad

and

> brothers about how I feel and how this all is affecting me, but I

> just don't want to burden anyone, it's not easy for them either. My

> hubby is one of the people, who just can't deal with stuff like

this

> and I think it's ok, I would not want to make my family miserable

> because of stuff that has nothing to do with them.

>

> I just need friends who understand why this is so difficult, some

> people I can talk to about things. It's been a difficult year and I

> am just trying to cope and understand what has happened. Hope this

is

> ok for ya all?!

>

> Sorry about any mistakes in spelling ect., English is not my first

> language.

>

> BM

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Welcome BM:

Much of your description of your situation sounds like my own (save

no sibilings or kids) and you will find much support here. It helps

all of us as so much of what happens (right down to identical

language) here sounds remarkably familiar. I am continually amazed

at how " our nadas were all cast from the same mold " as someone wrote

recently. It's so validating and thus comforting to here other

people experiencing similar things and that our responses are also

similar to one another.

Many men resist talking about this kind of stuff anyway. Depending

on what role your brothers played, they may not feel comfortable

opening up to you or supporting you at times. Women use about two

to three times more words in a day than most men. Vis a vis, we

tend to talk about things more than men do to make sense of the

world. It is a wonderful " place " to find help, comfort and advice.

I was blamed for most everything while I was growing up, but now

that I'm grown and gone, it's funny how the same old stuff persists

for my mother. Your thoughts about your parents marriage echo this

for me. I'm glad that you're able to recognize that circumstances

are only used as an excuse for the underlying problems that always

trace back to the BP. Now nada has to blame everything on my dad

and tries to triangulate things so that I'll support her against

him. On some level, I'm still to blame in her mind, too. Probably

for breaking away from her identity by virtue of growing up. Any

port in a storm can hold the blame for her...

And spelling!!!! At least you have an excuse! I have none, but I

don't care much about it. Bigger things to be concerned about.

K

> We always thought the troubles we had in our FOO, were because

> of mom and dad did not have a good marriage, and believed that it

> would stop after our parents got devorced. Well, it didn't! .....

>

> ...I am feeling lonely with this all, although I can talk to my

dad and

> brothers about how I feel and how this all is affecting me, but I

> just don't want to burden anyone, it's not easy for them either.

My

> hubby is one of the people, who just can't deal with stuff like

this

> and I think it's ok, I would not want to make my family miserable

> because of stuff that has nothing to do with them.

>

> I just need friends who understand why this is so difficult, some

> people I can talk to about things. It's been a difficult year and

I

> am just trying to cope and understand what has happened. Hope this

is

> ok for ya all?!

>

> Sorry about any mistakes in spelling ect., English is not my first

> language.

>

> BM

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Welcome BM:

Much of your description of your situation sounds like my own (save

no sibilings or kids) and you will find much support here. It helps

all of us as so much of what happens (right down to identical

language) here sounds remarkably familiar. I am continually amazed

at how " our nadas were all cast from the same mold " as someone wrote

recently. It's so validating and thus comforting to here other

people experiencing similar things and that our responses are also

similar to one another.

Many men resist talking about this kind of stuff anyway. Depending

on what role your brothers played, they may not feel comfortable

opening up to you or supporting you at times. Women use about two

to three times more words in a day than most men. Vis a vis, we

tend to talk about things more than men do to make sense of the

world. It is a wonderful " place " to find help, comfort and advice.

I was blamed for most everything while I was growing up, but now

that I'm grown and gone, it's funny how the same old stuff persists

for my mother. Your thoughts about your parents marriage echo this

for me. I'm glad that you're able to recognize that circumstances

are only used as an excuse for the underlying problems that always

trace back to the BP. Now nada has to blame everything on my dad

and tries to triangulate things so that I'll support her against

him. On some level, I'm still to blame in her mind, too. Probably

for breaking away from her identity by virtue of growing up. Any

port in a storm can hold the blame for her...

And spelling!!!! At least you have an excuse! I have none, but I

don't care much about it. Bigger things to be concerned about.

K

> We always thought the troubles we had in our FOO, were because

> of mom and dad did not have a good marriage, and believed that it

> would stop after our parents got devorced. Well, it didn't! .....

>

> ...I am feeling lonely with this all, although I can talk to my

dad and

> brothers about how I feel and how this all is affecting me, but I

> just don't want to burden anyone, it's not easy for them either.

My

> hubby is one of the people, who just can't deal with stuff like

this

> and I think it's ok, I would not want to make my family miserable

> because of stuff that has nothing to do with them.

>

> I just need friends who understand why this is so difficult, some

> people I can talk to about things. It's been a difficult year and

I

> am just trying to cope and understand what has happened. Hope this

is

> ok for ya all?!

>

> Sorry about any mistakes in spelling ect., English is not my first

> language.

>

> BM

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Hi Jana and you all!

Well, I have not thought about my dad or my hubby in that way ever.

They have both their bad sides, my hubby can be demanding, but he can

be empathizing too and does understand reasoning and when it comes to

dad, he is the one I turn to when it comes to FOO-problems, althought

they are devorced with nada.

One thing I have understood about my hubbys difficulties in dealing

with anything that has something to do with an illness, is that he

has a mother who is a nurse and he has heard so many terrible stories

of accidents and about people being ill that he is terrified of an

idea that something would happen to any of us. And propably he is a

child of a dad with a somekind of personality disorder, but that is

an other story. So... it seems that he has not devoloped any terribly

hurtful tendesies yet.

Anyway we decided together that when this began again with nada, and

I saw how it hurt him to see me being so upset and hurt, that it's

better that I will try to get thrue this with the help of others -

therapists and so on. Maybe he just wants to live in the " land of

OZ " , or something but I still don't want to burden him with this ;).

Dad, he was there for me, and I don't feel abondened by him, but my

youngest brother (10 years younger than me) would if you talked to

him. Dad did not have any energy to fight to get the custody of him

when nada and he was separating the first time and he propably got

the worst treatments by nada, when dad was not around. I feel so sad

about that, that my heart just brakes and so does dad!

Well anyway, that was a good question and I propably will see clearer

in time, if anyone in my nearest relatives develop BP-traits, or my

fleas get the better of me.

It's great that I found you!

BM

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Hi!

I've been trying to find the book here, but I haven't had any luck

yet. It's propably called something else in my lanquage, could you

tell me who wrote it?! it might be easier to find it with the name of

the writer.

Thank you for your answer and support, I know I will get thrue this,

hopefully wiser and stronger...

I will also try to read the older posts, when I have the time. For

sure, I can find gems in those posts too.

BM

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  • 1 month later...

Welcome,

You've found a home here. The stress of the holidays and seeing our

nadas is horrible, and we will all have war stories to share after

Christmas. You're not alone.

If you haven't read Understanding the Borderline Mother by

Lawson, I really recommend it. It changed my and my sister's life. I

was worried about the no-diagnosis thing when I first joined here too,

but as far as I can tell, most of our mothers have not been formally

diagnosed. One of the symptoms is that they don't trust the medical

profession and won't seek help. Sometimes they think *we're* the ones

who need help, not them.

Good luck to you this season. Report back after you've seen your nada

and just do your best. Merry Christmas.

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In a message dated 12/24/2004 12:49:49 PM Eastern Standard Time,

little_ugh@... writes:

Sometimes they think *we're* the ones

who need help, not them.

I can totally relate to this statement . . . My father has not been diagnosed

but then again he carted me from psychiatrist to psychiatrist as a child to

find out what was wrong with me . . . It was not until he kicked me out of the

house for over a week my senior year of HS and I went back into therapy (the

only way he would allow me to return -- I had to be fixed he said) did I find a

professional who understood what I was up against and even then BPD did not

come up . . . I was blessed that I was speaking to someone who knew that I did

not need to be fixed but instead deal with the realities that life had handed

me with my father.

Now so many years later my father thinks we all (my sister, as well as his

family and friends who have chosen to sever ties) need to be fixed. His

relationship with the witchmonster (his girlfriend) does not help because she

feeds

into his poor woe is me crap.

I wish you and all of those celebrating any holiday a joyful and more

importantly peaceful holiday.

Maddy

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In a message dated 12/24/2004 12:49:49 PM Eastern Standard Time,

little_ugh@... writes:

Sometimes they think *we're* the ones

who need help, not them.

I can totally relate to this statement . . . My father has not been diagnosed

but then again he carted me from psychiatrist to psychiatrist as a child to

find out what was wrong with me . . . It was not until he kicked me out of the

house for over a week my senior year of HS and I went back into therapy (the

only way he would allow me to return -- I had to be fixed he said) did I find a

professional who understood what I was up against and even then BPD did not

come up . . . I was blessed that I was speaking to someone who knew that I did

not need to be fixed but instead deal with the realities that life had handed

me with my father.

Now so many years later my father thinks we all (my sister, as well as his

family and friends who have chosen to sever ties) need to be fixed. His

relationship with the witchmonster (his girlfriend) does not help because she

feeds

into his poor woe is me crap.

I wish you and all of those celebrating any holiday a joyful and more

importantly peaceful holiday.

Maddy

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  • 5 years later...

I am looking for a forward thinking/practicing endocrinologist in Beaumont Texas (or surrounding area). I am making a residential move to east Texas and will need to establish myself with a new physician.

I would really appreciate a recommendation.

Thank you!

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If you want a "forward thinking" doctor, you will avoid most endocrinologists. Most of the better thyroid docs are in primary care, usually in an alternative/wellness/integrative/anti-aging type practice.

Check out our Texas Armour Docs list in Files. Also read the Database.

>> I am looking for a forward thinking/practicing endocrinologist in Beaumont Texas (or surrounding area). I am making a residential move to east Texas and will need to establish myself with a new physician.> > I would really appreciate a recommendation.> > Thank you!>

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  • 7 months later...

Thank you for your advice . I greatly appreciate it!

>

> >

> >

> > Is there anyone worth seeing in the DFW area who accepts insurance? I've

> > looked through the doctor database but was unimpressed with anyone in DFW.

> >

> > I've had hypothyroidism since 2006 after a RAI for Graves. I'm completely

> > frustrated with my current endocrinoligist, because I have many hypthyroid

> > symptoms, which I have told him about on numerous visits. Recently, I've had

> > an ectopic pregnancy followed by a miscarriage, and I really don't want to

> > return to my reproductive endocrinologist for issues I believe are thyroid

> > related. I'm willing to drive anywhere in the metroplex to anyone worthwhile

> > who will accept my insurance.

> >

> > Thank you in advance for any information!

> >

> > Alyssa

> >

> >

> >

>

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