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Since the immunosuppressants

are a Medicare allowable under Part B, would the patient’s BC medical

policy cover part or all of the 20%?

Barbara

Barbara Cochrane, MSN, RN

Transplant Financial Coordinator

Mercy Medical Center—Des Moines

Fax:

bcochrane@...

From: TxFinancialCoordinators [mailto:TxFinancialCoordinators ] On Behalf Of Aguiar, J.

Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 2:36

PM

To: TxFinancialCoordinators

Subject: RE:

Coverage of immunos

If there is no Rx coverage thru the BC,

then her immunos would be thru Part B (@ 80%) & the rest of her drugs thru

Humana. However, she will be responsible for the 20% Part B doesn't cover

& no, that can't be balance billed into Humana. So, make sure your pt

knows she will have significant out of pocket costs for the immunos because of

the way her BC is structured.

J. Aguiar

Mayo Clinic Arizona

From: TxFinancialCoordinators

[mailto:TxFinancialCoordinators ]

On Behalf Of Dana T

Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 12:29

PM

To: TxFinancialCoordinators

Subject: RE:

Coverage of immunos

ok..last

question and then I think I have my head on straight...my patient says she

doesn't have prescription coverage through BCBS..she only has her Humana part

D...will part B then pay for immuno drugs even though Medicare isn't primary ??

thanks for all the help!! I would be lost without everyone's input as I

have no one in my hospital who has any idea what I do !! :)

" Aguiar,

J. " <Aguiar.Mayo (DOT) Edu> wrote:

No, you're not off base-while the pt has

other ins, the immunos would fall under the commercial plan BUT when the day

comes that Medicare is primary, then coverage for the immunos will be under

Part B, because the pt had Part A @ the time of tx, vs. getting them under the

Part D plan.

Hope this helps,

J. Aguiar

Mayo Clinic Arizona

From: TxFinancialCoordinators

[mailto:TxFinancialCoordinators ]

On Behalf Of Dana T

Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 11:17

AM

To: TxFinancialCoordinators

Subject: RE:

DX start date after age 65

thanks that does help but I still have another question about

this..if the BCBS is now the primary doesn't the drug coverage go through

them? In some way I have become confused thinking that Medicare B only

pays for the immuno drugs if Medicare is primary at the time of

transplant otherwise they need to be paid through the GHP

coverage. Am I totally off base on that ?? this is my 1st

situation like this and I think I've just got myself confused on who pays what

when... thanks again !

" Aguiar,

J. " <Aguiar.Mayo (DOT) Edu> wrote:

Dana, the Part B piece comes because she

has Medicare part A @ the time of tx, so regardless of whether Medicare is

primary or 2ndy, her coverage for immunos, as far as Medicare & the Part D

plans are concerned, will always come thru Part B. The Part D plan only

picks up immunos when the pt didn't have at least Medicare Part A @ the time of

tx so there was no Part B coverage available for the immunos.

Hope this helps,

J. Aguiar

Mayo Clinic Arizona

From: TxFinancialCoordinators

[mailto:TxFinancialCoordinators ]

On Behalf Of Dana T

Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 10:53

AM

To: TxFinancialCoordinators

Subject: Re:

DX start date after age 65

Hi all,

I kind of have the same situation I am confused about..my patient is 70

years old and her husband started working for a grocery store and she now has

BCBS since 2/1/2007 and they say the BCBS is primary and her Medicare is

2ndry. She has a Humana part D plan and when I called to confirm the drug

coverage they told me her Part B would be paying for them. WIll part B

still pay for immuno drugs is she has the BCBS as primary?? it goes back to the

response below where they think Medicare is primary due to age. If

that is the case why does BCBS think they are primary?? thanks !!

Dana Trujillo

Financial Coordinator

Sanford

Transplant Center

Sioux Falls,

SD

Patti Montemayor

<PMontemayorSWMail (DOT) SW.Org> wrote:

i love your eloquence, i

have wanted to say that but was afraid people

would think me odd, so, what else is new.

i believe her medicare is primary because of age. . . .

Patti Montemayor, RN CCTC

Transplant Coordinator

and White Hospital

254/724-8448

>>> kimmonykricketsbcglobal (DOT) net

7/27/2007 11:47 AM >>>

Hello. I am having a brain fart.

We have a patient who has Medicare and a GHI.

She is 70 years old and just started dialysis Feb of 2007.

Does Medicare become secondary because of a new COB period? or does

Medicare stay primary because she is over age 65?

Any help will be great!!

Thanks

Kim

Transplant Financial Coordinator

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Since the immunosuppressants

are a Medicare allowable under Part B, would the patient’s BC medical

policy cover part or all of the 20%?

Barbara

Barbara Cochrane, MSN, RN

Transplant Financial Coordinator

Mercy Medical Center—Des Moines

Fax:

bcochrane@...

From: TxFinancialCoordinators [mailto:TxFinancialCoordinators ] On Behalf Of Aguiar, J.

Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 2:36

PM

To: TxFinancialCoordinators

Subject: RE:

Coverage of immunos

If there is no Rx coverage thru the BC,

then her immunos would be thru Part B (@ 80%) & the rest of her drugs thru

Humana. However, she will be responsible for the 20% Part B doesn't cover

& no, that can't be balance billed into Humana. So, make sure your pt

knows she will have significant out of pocket costs for the immunos because of

the way her BC is structured.

J. Aguiar

Mayo Clinic Arizona

From: TxFinancialCoordinators

[mailto:TxFinancialCoordinators ]

On Behalf Of Dana T

Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 12:29

PM

To: TxFinancialCoordinators

Subject: RE:

Coverage of immunos

ok..last

question and then I think I have my head on straight...my patient says she

doesn't have prescription coverage through BCBS..she only has her Humana part

D...will part B then pay for immuno drugs even though Medicare isn't primary ??

thanks for all the help!! I would be lost without everyone's input as I

have no one in my hospital who has any idea what I do !! :)

" Aguiar,

J. " <Aguiar.Mayo (DOT) Edu> wrote:

No, you're not off base-while the pt has

other ins, the immunos would fall under the commercial plan BUT when the day

comes that Medicare is primary, then coverage for the immunos will be under

Part B, because the pt had Part A @ the time of tx, vs. getting them under the

Part D plan.

Hope this helps,

J. Aguiar

Mayo Clinic Arizona

From: TxFinancialCoordinators

[mailto:TxFinancialCoordinators ]

On Behalf Of Dana T

Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 11:17

AM

To: TxFinancialCoordinators

Subject: RE:

DX start date after age 65

thanks that does help but I still have another question about

this..if the BCBS is now the primary doesn't the drug coverage go through

them? In some way I have become confused thinking that Medicare B only

pays for the immuno drugs if Medicare is primary at the time of

transplant otherwise they need to be paid through the GHP

coverage. Am I totally off base on that ?? this is my 1st

situation like this and I think I've just got myself confused on who pays what

when... thanks again !

" Aguiar,

J. " <Aguiar.Mayo (DOT) Edu> wrote:

Dana, the Part B piece comes because she

has Medicare part A @ the time of tx, so regardless of whether Medicare is

primary or 2ndy, her coverage for immunos, as far as Medicare & the Part D

plans are concerned, will always come thru Part B. The Part D plan only

picks up immunos when the pt didn't have at least Medicare Part A @ the time of

tx so there was no Part B coverage available for the immunos.

Hope this helps,

J. Aguiar

Mayo Clinic Arizona

From: TxFinancialCoordinators

[mailto:TxFinancialCoordinators ]

On Behalf Of Dana T

Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 10:53

AM

To: TxFinancialCoordinators

Subject: Re:

DX start date after age 65

Hi all,

I kind of have the same situation I am confused about..my patient is 70

years old and her husband started working for a grocery store and she now has

BCBS since 2/1/2007 and they say the BCBS is primary and her Medicare is

2ndry. She has a Humana part D plan and when I called to confirm the drug

coverage they told me her Part B would be paying for them. WIll part B

still pay for immuno drugs is she has the BCBS as primary?? it goes back to the

response below where they think Medicare is primary due to age. If

that is the case why does BCBS think they are primary?? thanks !!

Dana Trujillo

Financial Coordinator

Sanford

Transplant Center

Sioux Falls,

SD

Patti Montemayor

<PMontemayorSWMail (DOT) SW.Org> wrote:

i love your eloquence, i

have wanted to say that but was afraid people

would think me odd, so, what else is new.

i believe her medicare is primary because of age. . . .

Patti Montemayor, RN CCTC

Transplant Coordinator

and White Hospital

254/724-8448

>>> kimmonykricketsbcglobal (DOT) net

7/27/2007 11:47 AM >>>

Hello. I am having a brain fart.

We have a patient who has Medicare and a GHI.

She is 70 years old and just started dialysis Feb of 2007.

Does Medicare become secondary because of a new COB period? or does

Medicare stay primary because she is over age 65?

Any help will be great!!

Thanks

Kim

Transplant Financial Coordinator

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Yes the BC will cover the 20%.

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-----Original Message-----From: TxFinancialCoordinators [mailto:TxFinancialCoordinators ]On Behalf Of Cochrane, Barbara ESent: Monday, July 30, 2007 4:33 PMTo: TxFinancialCoordinators Subject: RE: Coverage of immunos

Since the immunosuppressants are a Medicare allowable under Part B, would the patient’s BC medical policy cover part or all of the 20%?

Barbara

Barbara Cochrane, MSN, RN

Transplant Financial Coordinator

Mercy Medical Center—Des Moines

Fax:

bcochranemercydesmoines (DOT) org

From: TxFinancialCoordinators [mailto:TxFinancialCoordinators ] On Behalf Of Aguiar, J.Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 2:36 PMTo: TxFinancialCoordinators Subject: RE: Coverage of immunos

If there is no Rx coverage thru the BC, then her immunos would be thru Part B (@ 80%) & the rest of her drugs thru Humana. However, she will be responsible for the 20% Part B doesn't cover & no, that can't be balance billed into Humana. So, make sure your pt knows she will have significant out of pocket costs for the immunos because of the way her BC is structured.

J. Aguiar

Mayo Clinic Arizona

From: TxFinancialCoordinators [mailto:TxFinancialCoordinators ] On Behalf Of Dana TSent: Friday, July 27, 2007 12:29 PMTo: TxFinancialCoordinators Subject: RE: Coverage of immunos

ok..last question and then I think I have my head on straight...my patient says she doesn't have prescription coverage through BCBS..she only has her Humana part D...will part B then pay for immuno drugs even though Medicare isn't primary ?? thanks for all the help!! I would be lost without everyone's input as I have no one in my hospital who has any idea what I do !! :) "Aguiar, J." <Aguiar.Mayo (DOT) Edu> wrote:

No, you're not off base-while the pt has other ins, the immunos would fall under the commercial plan BUT when the day comes that Medicare is primary, then coverage for the immunos will be under Part B, because the pt had Part A @ the time of tx, vs. getting them under the Part D plan.

Hope this helps,

J. Aguiar

Mayo Clinic Arizona

From: TxFinancialCoordinators [mailto:TxFinancialCoordinators ] On Behalf Of Dana TSent: Friday, July 27, 2007 11:17 AMTo: TxFinancialCoordinators Subject: RE: DX start date after age 65

thanks that does help but I still have another question about this..if the BCBS is now the primary doesn't the drug coverage go through them? In some way I have become confused thinking that Medicare B only pays for the immuno drugs if Medicare is primary at the time of transplant otherwise they need to be paid through the GHP coverage. Am I totally off base on that ?? this is my 1st situation like this and I think I've just got myself confused on who pays what when... thanks again ! "Aguiar, J." <Aguiar.Mayo (DOT) Edu> wrote:

Dana, the Part B piece comes because she has Medicare part A @ the time of tx, so regardless of whether Medicare is primary or 2ndy, her coverage for immunos, as far as Medicare & the Part D plans are concerned, will always come thru Part B. The Part D plan only picks up immunos when the pt didn't have at least Medicare Part A @ the time of tx so there was no Part B coverage available for the immunos.

Hope this helps,

J. Aguiar

Mayo Clinic Arizona

From: TxFinancialCoordinators [mailto:TxFinancialCoordinators ] On Behalf Of Dana TSent: Friday, July 27, 2007 10:53 AMTo: TxFinancialCoordinators Subject: Re: DX start date after age 65

Hi all,

I kind of have the same situation I am confused about..my patient is 70 years old and her husband started working for a grocery store and she now has BCBS since 2/1/2007 and they say the BCBS is primary and her Medicare is 2ndry. She has a Humana part D plan and when I called to confirm the drug coverage they told me her Part B would be paying for them. WIll part B still pay for immuno drugs is she has the BCBS as primary?? it goes back to the response below where they think Medicare is primary due to age. If that is the case why does BCBS think they are primary?? thanks !!

Dana Trujillo

Financial Coordinator

Sanford Transplant Center

Sioux Falls, SDPatti Montemayor <PMontemayorSWMail (DOT) SW.Org> wrote:

i love your eloquence, i have wanted to say that but was afraid peoplewould think me odd, so, what else is new.i believe her medicare is primary because of age. . . . Patti Montemayor, RN CCTCTransplant Coordinator and White Hospital254/724-8448>>> kimmonykricketsbcglobal (DOT) net 7/27/2007 11:47 AM >>>Hello. I am having a brain fart.We have a patient who has Medicare and a GHI.She is 70 years old and just started dialysis Feb of 2007.Does Medicare become secondary because of a new COB period? or does Medicare stay primary because she is over age 65?Any help will be great!!ThanksKim Transplant Financial Coordinator

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