Guest guest Posted January 24, 2001 Report Share Posted January 24, 2001 Hi everyone. I'm going to start this message with asking for your indulgence of me while I weed through this final aspect of my neanderthal ability to understand this very important aspect of healing. I've spent the last six months reading over the posts on this list. Andy's previous advice to me to turn over every stone to seek a physician's help with chelation is well-received and will be undertaken. I've already had my pediatrician threaten to force me to vaccinate my son with his last Hep B, so I am extremely cautious. I've not seen him since. I see so many with positive results with ALA alone, and yet I have this nagging question to which I can't seen to find an answer, despite my searching on this list. The most powerful statement I've seen Andy make is that mercury " can be slammed into the brain " once it is stirred up. From all I've read herein, ALA stirs up the mercury, and DMSA binds itself to the mercury and it is flushed out of the body. While my daughter's hair analysis did not show mercury, and only slightly elevated levels of metals, I cannot rule out the existence of mercury. Does DMSA in fact keep the mercury from going into the brain? If so, does Andy's statement below apply only to those who do not suspect mercury? Does it even matter? Kirkman Labs' description of one of their chelation support products indicates that it helps the body produce DMSA. If this support product is used prior to ALA, can the body produce it's own DMSA to where you don't need supplementation during chelation. Thanks for your time and your responses. Informed is armed. Carol in Florida --- In egroups, " Cutler " <AndyCutler@a...> wrote: > ALA is the active chelator. The DMSA isn't necessary, but it is > helpful so a lot of people use it. > > Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2001 Report Share Posted March 15, 2001 Brainchild has a liquid ALA. I know 'cause I'm in the process of updating their website to add it and other products to the site. Give them a call at 831 465-0104. I'm not affiliated - only a happy customer who does their website work as barter. Terri At 03:36 AM 3/16/01 +0000, you wrote: Hey good for you! It was suggested I give Nate some ALA to go with the Natual Wonders Heavy metal detox..but all they had was capsuals and he can't take those. I need to find a liguid. Each child is different and if you are seeing improvement that is what counts. Nate is doing really well on the heavy metal detox that I got at a health food place. --- In @y..., Bernard Windham <berniew1@e...> wrote: > I keep wondering if they should'nt be on one or the other??? We are > doing > ALA only, on our own and I must say after 3 round we are seeing nothing > but > positive!! Is there maybe something with the combo of the DMSA/ALA that > is > causing the regressions and/or agression???? Any idea's anyone??? Am I > crazy > think this???? > Laurie > > Your experience is your experience. Different people > have different exposures, susceptabilities, needs, etc. so the same > treatment won't get same results for all. But the symptoms you mention > likely might be due to the effect of the treatment on mineral/nutrient > body stores or efas and mean there is a need of more of whatever is a > factor in causing the problem; such as lithium or zinc or magnesium or > omega3, etc. tests such as hair test results might give a clue. > Bernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2001 Report Share Posted March 16, 2001 In a message dated 3/15/01 4:37:02 PM Pacific Standard Time, berniew1@... writes: << ?? We are doing ALA only, on our own and I must say after 3 round we are seeing nothing but positive!! Is there maybe something with the combo of the DMSA/ALA that >> I have a question about using ALA alone. If you us it alone, what does the mercury bind to? I was under the impression that the DMSA binds to the mercury while the ALA pulls it out of the brain. Please let me know it this is not the case. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2001 Report Share Posted March 16, 2001 I keep wondering if they should'nt be on one or the other??? We are doing ALA only, on our own and I must say after 3 round we are seeing nothing but positive!! Is there maybe something with the combo of the DMSA/ALA that is causing the regressions and/or agression???? Any idea's anyone??? Am I crazy think this???? Laurie Your experience is your experience. Different people have different exposures, susceptabilities, needs, etc. so the same treatment won't get same results for all. But the symptoms you mention likely might be due to the effect of the treatment on mineral/nutrient body stores or efas and mean there is a need of more of whatever is a factor in causing the problem; such as lithium or zinc or magnesium or omega3, etc. tests such as hair test results might give a clue. Bernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2001 Report Share Posted March 16, 2001 Hey good for you! It was suggested I give Nate some ALA to go with the Natual Wonders Heavy metal detox..but all they had was capsuals and he can't take those. I need to find a liguid. Each child is different and if you are seeing improvement that is what counts. Nate is doing really well on the heavy metal detox that I got at a health food place. > I keep wondering if they should'nt be on one or the other??? We are > doing > ALA only, on our own and I must say after 3 round we are seeing nothing > but > positive!! Is there maybe something with the combo of the DMSA/ALA that > is > causing the regressions and/or agression???? Any idea's anyone??? Am I > crazy > think this???? > Laurie > > Your experience is your experience. Different people > have different exposures, susceptabilities, needs, etc. so the same > treatment won't get same results for all. But the symptoms you mention > likely might be due to the effect of the treatment on mineral/nutrient > body stores or efas and mean there is a need of more of whatever is a > factor in causing the problem; such as lithium or zinc or magnesium or > omega3, etc. tests such as hair test results might give a clue. > Bernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2001 Report Share Posted March 16, 2001 , my son won't take capsules either, but I take them apart and mix the powder with apple juice or water, and " shoot " it into his mouth with a bulb syringe. Ready with a glass of water! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Lindy~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --- <moonglow38@...> wrote: > Hey good for you! It was suggested I give Nate some > ALA to go with > the Natual Wonders Heavy metal detox..but all they > had was capsuals > and he can't take those. I need to find a liguid. > Each child is > different and if you are seeing improvement that is > what counts. > Nate is doing really well on the heavy metal detox > that I got at a > health food place. > > > > I keep wondering if they should'nt be on one or > the other??? We are > > doing > > ALA only, on our own and I must say after 3 round > we are seeing > nothing > > but > > positive!! Is there maybe something with the combo > of the DMSA/ALA > that > > is > > causing the regressions and/or agression???? Any > idea's anyone??? > Am I > > crazy > > think this???? > > Laurie > > > > Your experience is your > experience. Different > people > > have different exposures, susceptabilities, needs, > etc. so the > same > > treatment won't get same results for all. But the > symptoms you > mention > > likely might be due to the effect of the treatment > on > mineral/nutrient > > body stores or efas and mean there is a need of > more of whatever > is a > > factor in causing the problem; such as lithium or > zinc or > magnesium or > > omega3, etc. tests such as hair test results > might give a clue. > > Bernie > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2001 Report Share Posted March 16, 2001 I just mix the ALA with some lemonaid or cranberry juice..... I put about 45cc of juice in a cup break open 2- 50mg capsules and stir it up. It does not really disolve so you have to keep stiring. I have gotten a bunch of medicine syringes from the pharmacy and I preload each of them with 5mg of this mixture and store them in a ziploc in the refig. that way I have 24 hrs worth ready to go. By the way, Larry how is Kirkman coming with a liquad ALA??? laurie Mom to Grace 3.11 > > Message: 17 > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 03:36:31 -0000 > From: " " <moonglow38@...> > Subject: Re: ALA alone > > Hey good for you! It was suggested I give Nate some ALA to go with > the Natual Wonders Heavy metal detox..but all they had was capsuals > and he can't take those. I need to find a liguid. Each child is > different and if you are seeing improvement that is what counts. > Nate is doing really well on the heavy metal detox that I got at a > health food place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2001 Report Share Posted March 16, 2001 I doubt Nate would drink anything that tasted funny or had something floating in it...I have tried that before...lol...I hate to spend 26$ and then he won't take it...going to check GNC and see if they have a liquid. But thanks. > > I just mix the ALA with some lemonaid or cranberry juice..... I put about > 45cc of juice in a cup break open 2- 50mg capsules and stir it up. It does > not really disolve so you have to keep stiring. I have gotten a bunch of > medicine syringes from the pharmacy and I preload each of them with 5mg of > this mixture and store them in a ziploc in the refig. that way I have 24 hrs > worth ready to go. > > By the way, Larry how is Kirkman coming with a liquad ALA??? > > laurie > Mom to Grace 3.11 > > > > Message: 17 > > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 03:36:31 -0000 > > From: " " <moonglow38@Y...> > > Subject: Re: ALA alone > > > > Hey good for you! It was suggested I give Nate some ALA to go with > > the Natual Wonders Heavy metal detox..but all they had was capsuals > > and he can't take those. I need to find a liguid. Each child is > > different and if you are seeing improvement that is what counts. > > Nate is doing really well on the heavy metal detox that I got at a > > health food place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2001 Report Share Posted March 16, 2001 Hi , The ALA I have been buying is under $20 (don't know exact price) for 60 capsules 100 mg each. Brainchild Nutritionals (brainchildnutritionals.com) sells a liquid ALA. An 8 oz bottle for $10.00 plus 4.50 S/H. One tsp equals 16 mg ALA. (According to a standard conversion chart one 8 oz bottle contains 48 teaspoons. At 16 mg per teaspoon, that's 768 mg in the whole bottle.) It would be a LOT cheaper to mix your own (from capsules). Brainchild Nutritional's phone number is: (831) 465-0104 (M-F, 9-5 PST.) email address: postmaster@... best, Moria ============================================================= At 03:05 PM 3/16/2001 -0000, you wrote: >I doubt Nate would drink anything that tasted funny or had something >floating in it...I have tried that before...lol...I hate to spend 26$ >and then he won't take it...going to check GNC and see if they have a >liquid. But thanks. > > >> >> I just mix the ALA with some lemonaid or cranberry juice..... I put >about >> 45cc of juice in a cup break open 2- 50mg capsules and stir it up. >It does >> not really disolve so you have to keep stiring. I have gotten a >bunch of >> medicine syringes from the pharmacy and I preload each of them with >5mg of >> this mixture and store them in a ziploc in the refig. that way I >have 24 hrs >> worth ready to go. >> >> By the way, Larry how is Kirkman coming with a liquad ALA??? >> >> laurie >> Mom to Grace 3.11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2001 Report Share Posted March 16, 2001 Yes, what about mixing the capsule contents in a bit of pearsauce? You couldn't mix it up ahead of time, but it wouldn't take long to prepare and it's easier to spoon a bit of something into a child than to get them to drink it (at least, that's been my experience). Re: [ ] Re: ALA alone > Hi , > > The ALA I have been buying is under $20 (don't know exact > price) for 60 capsules 100 mg each. > > Brainchild Nutritionals (brainchildnutritionals.com) sells a liquid ALA. > An 8 oz bottle for $10.00 plus 4.50 S/H. One tsp > equals 16 mg ALA. (According to a standard conversion > chart one 8 oz bottle contains 48 teaspoons. At 16 mg per teaspoon, that's > 768 mg in the whole bottle.) It would be a LOT > cheaper to mix your own (from capsules). > > Brainchild Nutritional's phone number is: (831) 465-0104 > (M-F, 9-5 PST.) email address: postmaster@... > > best, > Moria > ============================================================= > At 03:05 PM 3/16/2001 -0000, you wrote: > >I doubt Nate would drink anything that tasted funny or had something > >floating in it...I have tried that before...lol...I hate to spend 26$ > >and then he won't take it...going to check GNC and see if they have a > >liquid. But thanks. > > > > > >> > >> I just mix the ALA with some lemonaid or cranberry juice..... I put > >about > >> 45cc of juice in a cup break open 2- 50mg capsules and stir it up. > >It does > >> not really disolve so you have to keep stiring. I have gotten a > >bunch of > >> medicine syringes from the pharmacy and I preload each of them with > >5mg of > >> this mixture and store them in a ziploc in the refig. that way I > >have 24 hrs > >> worth ready to go. > >> > >> By the way, Larry how is Kirkman coming with a liquad ALA??? > >> > >> laurie > >> Mom to Grace 3.11 > > > > > ======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2001 Report Share Posted March 16, 2001 Ok thanks...might try it after I get some more money. If he won't take it I will. > >> > >> I just mix the ALA with some lemonaid or cranberry juice..... I put > >about > >> 45cc of juice in a cup break open 2- 50mg capsules and stir it up. > >It does > >> not really disolve so you have to keep stiring. I have gotten a > >bunch of > >> medicine syringes from the pharmacy and I preload each of them with > >5mg of > >> this mixture and store them in a ziploc in the refig. that way I > >have 24 hrs > >> worth ready to go. > >> > >> By the way, Larry how is Kirkman coming with a liquad ALA??? > >> > >> laurie > >> Mom to Grace 3.11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2001 Report Share Posted March 16, 2001 Could try something like that too. He isn't much on eating mushy stuff like that...has a sensory intregration disorder and won't eat certain foods because of how they feel in his mouth. I was thinking mashed potatoes he loves those...cause their warm not cold (I know weird kid..lol) but I don't fix mashed potatoes everyday. Can't sneak stuff in his juice anymore either. He used to refuse to take his liquid antibotic or tyneol when he was sick so I would sneak it in his juice..back when he was still using a sippy cup and couldn't really see what was in it that well. The only time he uses his sippy cup now is at bedtime and I tried smashing up a vitamine once and putting it in there but it plugged up the cup and no juice would come out. I wish I could just get him to take pills. He gags really easily and is afraid he will choke on them unless they are very tiny. He would rather chew up a pill first. Darn. Well I will figure out something. i hope. Thanks . > > >> > > >> I just mix the ALA with some lemonaid or cranberry juice..... I put > > >about > > >> 45cc of juice in a cup break open 2- 50mg capsules and stir it up. > > >It does > > >> not really disolve so you have to keep stiring. I have gotten a > > >bunch of > > >> medicine syringes from the pharmacy and I preload each of them with > > >5mg of > > >> this mixture and store them in a ziploc in the refig. that way I > > >have 24 hrs > > >> worth ready to go. > > >> > > >> By the way, Larry how is Kirkman coming with a liquad ALA??? > > >> > > >> laurie > > >> Mom to Grace 3.11 > > > > > > > > > > ======================================================= > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2001 Report Share Posted March 17, 2001 Hi again , You can also mix it into " harder " foods: peanut butter, coleslaw, cereal, anything he will eat. Of course, you do have to see that the food it is in all gets eaten If you are mixing it up one dose at a time, you can mix it into anything you want. If you are premixing (according to Andy) then ALA is " pretty stable " , but DMSA is more subject to oxidation and should be mixed into acidic stuff (such as oreange juice of pineapple juice). Premix only a few doses and then use them up. good luck! Moria At 11:36 PM 3/16/2001 -0000, you wrote: >Could try something like that too. He isn't much on eating mushy >stuff like that...has a sensory intregration disorder and won't eat >certain foods because of how they feel in his mouth. I was thinking >mashed potatoes he loves those...cause their warm not cold (I know >weird kid..lol) but I don't fix mashed potatoes everyday. Can't >sneak stuff in his juice anymore either. He used to refuse to take >his liquid antibotic or tyneol when he was sick so I would sneak it >in his juice..back when he was still using a sippy cup and couldn't >really see what was in it that well. The only time he uses his sippy >cup now is at bedtime and I tried smashing up a vitamine once and >putting it in there but it plugged up the cup and no juice would come >out. > >I wish I could just get him to take pills. He gags really easily and >is afraid he will choke on them unless they are very tiny. He would >rather chew up a pill first. Darn. Well I will figure out something. >i hope. Thanks . > > >> Yes, what about mixing the capsule contents in a bit of pearsauce? >You >> couldn't mix it up ahead of time, but it wouldn't take long to >prepare and >> it's easier to spoon a bit of something into a child than to get >them to >> drink it (at least, that's been my experience). >> >> Re: [ ] Re: ALA alone >> >> >> > Hi , >> > >> > The ALA I have been buying is under $20 (don't know exact >> > price) for 60 capsules 100 mg each. >> > >> > Brainchild Nutritionals (brainchildnutritionals.com) sells a >liquid ALA. >> > An 8 oz bottle for $10.00 plus 4.50 S/H. One tsp >> > equals 16 mg ALA. (According to a standard conversion >> > chart one 8 oz bottle contains 48 teaspoons. At 16 mg per >teaspoon, >> that's >> > 768 mg in the whole bottle.) It would be a LOT >> > cheaper to mix your own (from capsules). >> > >> > Brainchild Nutritional's phone number is: (831) 465-0104 >> > (M-F, 9-5 PST.) email address: postmaster@b... >> > >> > best, >> > Moria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2001 Report Share Posted March 17, 2001 That sounds like a good idea...he eats jelly sandwiched. I put the jelly down the middle of the bread and fold it in half. He used to get peanut butter and jelly sandwiches but I think he was possibly having allergies with the peanut butter...that was one food he wasn't tested for. Since he is allergic to yeast...peanut butter can be a moldy type of food which he is suppose to avoid those types of foods. The jelly may mask any funny taste too...I hope. Thanks. > >> Yes, what about mixing the capsule contents in a bit of pearsauce? > >You > >> couldn't mix it up ahead of time, but it wouldn't take long to > >prepare and > >> it's easier to spoon a bit of something into a child than to get > >them to > >> drink it (at least, that's been my experience). > >> > >> Re: [ ] Re: ALA alone > >> > >> > >> > Hi , > >> > > >> > The ALA I have been buying is under $20 (don't know exact > >> > price) for 60 capsules 100 mg each. > >> > > >> > Brainchild Nutritionals (brainchildnutritionals.com) sells a > >liquid ALA. > >> > An 8 oz bottle for $10.00 plus 4.50 S/H. One tsp > >> > equals 16 mg ALA. (According to a standard conversion > >> > chart one 8 oz bottle contains 48 teaspoons. At 16 mg per > >teaspoon, > >> that's > >> > 768 mg in the whole bottle.) It would be a LOT > >> > cheaper to mix your own (from capsules). > >> > > >> > Brainchild Nutritional's phone number is: (831) 465-0104 > >> > (M-F, 9-5 PST.) email address: postmaster@b... > >> > > >> > best, > >> > Moria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2001 Report Share Posted March 20, 2001 Hello : I just returned from visiting some friends in CA and one of them has a son with autism. She is doing the gambit of stuff for him. One thing I noticed, as I spent a day in the life of my friend, is that she takes many of the capsules of " stuff " and puts it either on toast with appropriate butter and jelly, or she buys these special " yummy bears " splits them open and pulls open the capsules and pours the contents into them for her son to take. Hope this may give you some more options. In Christ's love and mine...Jen : ) On Fri, 16 Mar 2001 03:36:31 -0000 " " <moonglow38@...> writes: > Hey good for you! It was suggested I give Nate some ALA to go with > the Natual Wonders Heavy metal detox..but all they had was capsuals > > and he can't take those. I need to find a liguid. Each child is > different and if you are seeing improvement that is what counts. > Nate is doing really well on the heavy metal detox that I got at a > health food place. > > > > I keep wondering if they should'nt be on one or the other??? We > are > > doing > > ALA only, on our own and I must say after 3 round we are seeing > nothing > > but > > positive!! Is there maybe something with the combo of the DMSA/ALA > > that > > is > > causing the regressions and/or agression???? Any idea's anyone??? > > Am I > > crazy > > think this???? > > Laurie > > > > Your experience is your experience. Different > people > > have different exposures, susceptabilities, needs, etc. so the > > same > > treatment won't get same results for all. But the symptoms you > mention > > likely might be due to the effect of the treatment on > mineral/nutrient > > body stores or efas and mean there is a need of more of whatever > > is a > > factor in causing the problem; such as lithium or zinc or > magnesium or > > omega3, etc. tests such as hair test results might give a > clue. > > Bernie > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2001 Report Share Posted March 21, 2001 > > > I keep wondering if they should'nt be on one or the other??? We > > are > > > doing > > > ALA only, on our own and I must say after 3 round we are seeing > > nothing > > > but > > > positive!! Is there maybe something with the combo of the DMSA/ALA > > > > that > > > is > > > causing the regressions and/or agression???? Any idea's anyone??? > > > > Am I > > > crazy > > > think this???? > > > Laurie > > > > > > Your experience is your experience. Different > > people > > > have different exposures, susceptabilities, needs, etc. so the > > > > same > > > treatment won't get same results for all. But the symptoms you > > mention > > > likely might be due to the effect of the treatment on > > mineral/nutrient > > > body stores or efas and mean there is a need of more of whatever > > > > is a > > > factor in causing the problem; such as lithium or zinc or > > magnesium or > > > omega3, etc. tests such as hair test results might give a > > clue. > > > Bernie > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2001 Report Share Posted April 10, 2001 There are many many questions, and I want to be open to reports from parents as well as from any scientists who might be willing to approach this arena. Jaquelyn ******* I think that determining individual needs and imbalances and balancing electrolytes, essential minerals, essential fatty acids, dealing with detox system problems, intestinal issues, etc. are extremely important in addition to avoiding future toxic exposures and reducing toxic body burdens. I think tests and nutritional methods are major things to concentrate on, along with avoiding more damage. We need more compilation of what helps and what hurts and why when that occurs. Bernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2001 Report Share Posted April 10, 2001 > There are many many questions, and I want > to be open to reports from parents as well as from any scientists who > might > be willing to approach this arena. Jaquelyn I agree with Dr. Jaquelyn that it is important to remain open to what the actual patients or parents are saying, and experiencing, even when it is contrary to what one expects to hear. It is of course also important to elicit adequate detail from them to know EXACTLY what they did, so as to stay out of the pitfall of demonizing some chelating agents due to other physician's inappropriate prescribing practices. It is also important to remain open to " the basics " of biochemistry and pharmacokinetics so not too much has to be learned through unfortunate patient experiences. All that said, the world is a very complicated place and while I make certain suggestions because I am sure they will work well for most people, and are the best choices out there, if you just happen to be doing really well with exactly the opposite approach, stick with it. The point of all this studying, theorizing and debating is to get all the sick people better. Andy > ******* > I think that determining individual needs and imbalances and > balancing electrolytes, > essential minerals, essential fatty acids, dealing with detox system > problems, intestinal issues, etc. are extremely important in addition to > avoiding future toxic exposures and reducing toxic body burdens. I > think tests and nutritional methods are major things to concentrate on, > along with avoiding more damage. We need more compilation of what > helps and what hurts and why when that occurs. I agree with Bernie, too. I think discussions on this list are invaluable for that, as are the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2001 Report Share Posted April 10, 2001 I apologize if I was rude, it was not entirly focused toward you Margaret... Even though it was in response to your email. I guess Wayne Obie coming along and attacking what Andy has been teaching us for months, hit me also the wrong way. I too want to hear why people disagree, and what they think, and to Learn from each other. But there is a difference between that and signing on today and telling us that someone who has been helping all of us is wrong, without any real reasons or knowing what we here on this list are about! And then you asking once again for proof was the culmanation of a very bad two days for me. I know how many nights I have sat at the computer reading different archieves until 2 or 3 in the morning, and then back up at 7, trying to figure out how to " fix " Grace!!! Ask specific questions, but none of us can give you " proof " except our own.... And you also have to find your own " proof " We can't find it for you! Maybe you should tell DH to get on the internet and find you " proof " that you should'nt do it! You may just have to start at message #1 and just start reading..... That's what I have done on this list and others, I admitt I did not get thru all the mercury ones but.... ;-) The real answer to your question is there is " no Proof " but then again there is no " proof " that imunizations cause any of these problems but I bet 99% of the people here will tell you that " they know they do!!!! " You have to be able to come to the place where you can even do one round with a urine or stool test to see the " proof " of what is in your child, unfortunatly because of the way these metals hide its pretty much the only way. I try and post often the little things Grace, you just have to read. Laurie Mom to Grace > From: Laurie Hunter <chinamom@...> > Subject: Re: Digest Number 1066 > > Because most of us are TO BUSY FIXING OUR KIDS!!!! The Archieve's are there! > READ THEM!!!! > > laurie >> Hi >> >> Sorry, I have to agree with Wayne. Where is this information? Why won't >> share with the group? Why is she insisting that we find out for >> ourselves? >> >> I'm sure that chelation would help our daughter, but I need to have solid, >> yes, " Scientific " evidence (ie test results) in support of it before DH will >> consider it. >> So where do I find this information? >> >> Margaret > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2001 Report Share Posted June 4, 2001 > Moria, > > Thanks for the reply! We are using the ALA alone this weekend. I had my > fillings removed in October and I am going to start chealation soon. What > can I expect? see page 52 of my book (Amalgam Illness: Diagnosis and Treatment, described at http://hometown.aol.com/noamalgam) and the general discussion of side effects on this list. Not all the side effects are unpleasant. I usually found ALA euphoric. I had a great time - everyone ELSE thought I was acting pretty wierd while I was taking it though. >I am a little nervous about it. Here I am trying to take care > of my child, and then going into this myself! I am loaded. I am taking > supplements 4 times a day. Very important, that 4 times a day bit. It is a LOT easier if you find a nice pill minder chest that has 4 compartments per day. Make sure to get a big one (or even two). > to prepare and going through some rounds of nystatin for yeast > starting this week. > > Wish me luck! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2001 Report Share Posted June 4, 2001 Hey Jane, Good luck, most definately! I tell you, I was VERY nervous. I was --um-- like waiting to see if I was gonna MELT or grow a tail or something. A grand experiment, but reading about " redistribution " had me worried. That nervousness really only lasted 2 or 3 rounds for me. I've had a few questions and issues since, but at a much lower level of emotional intensity. I don't know what you should expect, I'm sure you will have different reactions and issues. But for me it has not been too bad. The waking up at night is no fun, but you are probably already doing that, right? so no extra work there. Heck, if you and the kiddo are on the same schedule, that seems almost convienient! I think that all the parents who are treating BOTH themselves and kids at the same time should get some sort of " extra credit " or something! I tend to get some mild insomnia starting about day 3 on and it lasts a few days. I " just recover " on sleep by the next week. I'm mostly doing 3/11 now, which gives me more of a break. On 3/4 I was tired a lot during the day. (I still am on 3/11, but only 1/2 the time!) As you may have read I've had LOTS of skin allergies/reactions the entire last 6 months (while chelating) --- this is something I've had " off and on " anyway, and I really don't know if it is related to chelation. Same story with getting sick more than usual. Again good luck, and let us all know how it goes. best, Moria At 09:56 PM 6/3/2001 EDT, you wrote: >Moria, > >Thanks for the reply! We are using the ALA alone this weekend. I had my >fillings removed in October and I am going to start chealation soon. What >can I expect? I am a little nervous about it. Here I am trying to take care >of my child, and then going into this myself! I am loaded. I am taking >supplements to prepare and going through some rounds of nystatin for yeast >starting this week. > >Wish me luck! > Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2001 Report Share Posted June 4, 2001 Andy, Thanks, I just started reading your book. We have been on vacation, so now it's time to get busy reading! MJW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2001 Report Share Posted June 9, 2001 Andy wrote: <<Not all the side effects are unpleasant. I usually found ALA euphoric. I had a great time - everyone ELSE thought I was acting pretty wierd while I was taking it though.>> LOL, Andy. I was told that , I was " entirely too perky " while on it. It made me absolutely joyful even after being up for two nights. I think I wrote you that I thought we should bottle it as a Prozac competitor. This ALA stuff is terrific. I look forward to my next round on Monday after having taken a few weeks off. Cheers ! Jeannie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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