Guest guest Posted January 24, 2001 Report Share Posted January 24, 2001 She said something interesting about his eyebrows which I > didn't know. He's missing about a 1/4 of the outside of his eyebrows. She > said this can be a sign of mercury poisoning. <This is also a classic sign of hypothyroidism. Ask her about that.> This is very interesting since I have all the symptoms of hyperthyroidism too. Jo (South Carolina) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2001 Report Share Posted January 24, 2001 I could not agree with you more! I wish I could personally pay for everyone to see Dr. Holmes or her partner Dr. Cave! They are angels. I hope when things settle down here I can start calling doctors around the country to make a list of at least one in every state that is following her protocol!!! ........laurie [ ] Is Chelation the " Cure " for Autism? > I just got back from a great appt. with Dr. Amy Holmes. She feels like >she can recover the most severe autism, it may just take longer. I talked to >some parents in the waiting room who said their son stopped walking when he >was 2 1/2. After starting chelation, he's walking (actually running around >the waiting room) and they said he's sleeping at night for the first time. He >looked like he was about 7 years old. They've been seeing Dr. Holmes since >May. She did say that she's fully chelated the 1 and 2 year olds and they're >recovered but hasn't finished with any 3 year olds yet but she's only been >doing this for 10 mos. I can't wait to get all of his tests back. They did >call today and said his Glucose was 234 with 70-110 being normal. We'll have >him tested tomorrow. He's had a virus with a high fever. Could this be why >it's so high? She said something interesting about his eyebrows which I >didn't know. He's missing about a 1/4 of the outside of his eyebrows. She >said this can be a sign of mercury poisoning. Also he's very pale. She said >her son was the same way and now his eyebrows have fully grown in and he's no >longer pale. I have one question, why isn't everyone doing chelation if this >is indeed the cure? Was Dr. Holme's son the first child to be chelated >successfully? I'm so excited about starting chelation but can't understand >why everyone isn't looking into this more. Don't they realize that this >really could be the cure for autism? > >Jo (South Carolina) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2001 Report Share Posted January 24, 2001 She said something interesting about his eyebrows which I > didn't know. He's missing about a 1/4 of the outside of his eyebrows. She > said this can be a sign of mercury poisoning. This is also a classic sign of hypothyroidism. Ask her about that. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2001 Report Share Posted January 24, 2001 He's missing about a 1/4 of the outside of his eyebrows. She : said this can be a sign of mercury poisoning. Also he's very pale. She said : her son was the same way and now his eyebrows have fully grown in and he's no : longer pale. Wow, I didn't know this either and when I read this I checked my son, he's also missing part of his eyebrow, we never noticed! This gives me hope that this might be what helps my son. We're working with another Doctor but we've already disscussed it and if things don't go well we will make the appt with Dr Holmes. Toma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2001 Report Share Posted January 25, 2001 Mine is missing part of his eyebrow too, could that be low thyroid??? At 06:47 PM 1/24/01 -0500, you wrote: > >He's missing about a 1/4 of the outside of his eyebrows. She >: said this can be a sign of mercury poisoning. Also he's very pale. She >said >: her son was the same way and now his eyebrows have fully grown in and he's >no >: longer pale. > >Wow, I didn't know this either and when I read this I checked my son, he's >also missing part of his eyebrow, we never noticed! This gives me hope that >this might be what helps my son. > >We're working with another Doctor but we've already disscussed it and if >things don't go well we will make the appt with Dr Holmes. > > >Toma > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2001 Report Share Posted January 25, 2001 Jo, Is Amy doing thyroid panels on her patients? I ask this because what you describe with the outer part of the eyebrow missing and the pale skin is CLASSIC for hypothyroidism. I would be curious to know if she is doing thyroid panels and whether they are changing with chelation. Ricci JPiker@a... wrote: > I just got back from a great appt. with Dr. Amy Holmes. She feels like > she can recover the most severe autism, it may just take longer. I talked to > some parents in the waiting room who said their son stopped walking when he > was 2 1/2. After starting chelation, he's walking (actually running around > the waiting room) and they said he's sleeping at night for the first time. He > looked like he was about 7 years old. They've been seeing Dr. Holmes since > May. She did say that she's fully chelated the 1 and 2 year olds and they're > recovered but hasn't finished with any 3 year olds yet but she's only been > doing this for 10 mos. I can't wait to get all of his tests back. They did > call today and said his Glucose was 234 with 70-110 being normal. We'll have > him tested tomorrow. He's had a virus with a high fever. Could this be why > it's so high? She said something interesting about his eyebrows which I > didn't know. He's missing about a 1/4 of the outside of his eyebrows. She > said this can be a sign of mercury poisoning. Also he's very pale. She said > her son was the same way and now his eyebrows have fully grown in and he's no > longer pale. I have one question, why isn't everyone doing chelation if this > is indeed the cure? Was Dr. Holme's son the first child to be chelated > successfully? I'm so excited about starting chelation but can't understand > why everyone isn't looking into this more. Don't they realize that this > really could be the cure for autism? > > Jo (South Carolina) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2001 Report Share Posted January 26, 2001 No, she didn't run a thyroid panel on my son. I think she said > that > > nothing can be done until we get the mercury levels down and that > would > > pretty much take care of it. I only talked to Dr. Holme's nurse and will be calling on Monday to straighten this out. I'm sure Dr. Holme's had a reason not to do the Thyroid testing at that time. I'll let you know what she says on Monday. Jo (South Carolina) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2001 Report Share Posted January 26, 2001 It is hard for me to believe that any responsible physician would postpone investigation and treatment of thyroid hormone deficiency in a developing child with the presumption that everything will be okay when the mercury is gone. From what I have been reading on this list I have gathered that the chelation process can take MONTHS and possibly YEARS before all the metals are out. Chelation will NOT correct any developmental deficits caused by existing hypothyroidism, even if the hypothyroidism is caused by mercury toxicity. The hypothyroidism MAY be resolved by the removal of mercury, but you will not be able to go back and make up for the time the child had was deficient in thyroid hormone during those possible months or years of chelation. Also, how do you know if chelation resolves hypothyroidism if you can't show it was there to begin with????? Ricci JPiker@a... wrote: > < Is Amy doing thyroid panels on her patients? I ask this because what > you describe with the outer part of the eyebrow missing and the pale > skin is CLASSIC for hypothyroidism. I would be curious to know if she > is doing thyroid panels and whether they are changing with chelation. > > > > > No, she didn't run a thyroid panel on my son. I think she said that > nothing can be done until we get the mercury levels down and that would > pretty much take care of it. > > Jo (South Carolina) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2001 Report Share Posted January 26, 2001 I'm sure there can be some clarification on whether Dr. Holmes is testing for Thyroid, and adrenal deficiency. From everything that I have read from her patients on this list, she is a physician who treats children until signs, symptoms, subjective feelings, and tests for the most part agree that they are healthy rather than refusing them treatment because one particular test isn't in the range where it is " supposed " to be. I also know that Andy Cutler discusses both these areas in his book and leads mercury toxic persons to seek testing and thyroid supplements that make the patient feel better. Aly [ ] Re: Is Chelation the " Cure " for Autism? > It is hard for me to believe that any responsible physician would > postpone investigation and treatment of thyroid hormone deficiency in > a developing child with the presumption that everything will be okay > when the mercury is gone. From what I have been reading on this list > I have gathered that the chelation process can take MONTHS and > possibly YEARS before all the metals are out. Chelation will NOT > correct any developmental deficits caused by existing hypothyroidism, > even if the hypothyroidism is caused by mercury toxicity. The > hypothyroidism MAY be resolved by the removal of mercury, but you will > not be able to go back and make up for the time the child had was > deficient in thyroid hormone during those possible months or years of > chelation. > > Also, how do you know if chelation resolves hypothyroidism if you > can't show it was there to begin with????? > > Ricci > > JPiker@a... wrote: > > < Is Amy doing thyroid panels on her patients? I ask this because > what > > you describe with the outer part of the eyebrow missing and the pale > > skin is CLASSIC for hypothyroidism. I would be curious to know if > she > > is doing thyroid panels and whether they are changing with > chelation. > > > > > > > > > No, she didn't run a thyroid panel on my son. I think she said > that > > nothing can be done until we get the mercury levels down and that > would > > pretty much take care of it. > > > > Jo (South Carolina) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2001 Report Share Posted January 26, 2001 -You need to re-read her post. It says wait until the levels go DOWN. Probably meaning " within range " . Dr. Holmes is an exceptionally good Doctor and as well versed as anyone, anywhere in the care and treatment of these children. They are quite well monitored and tested. I'm sure she has her reasons for waiting. Ann agrammy to: dean/4 bryan/12 toxic...but getting better -- In @y..., Wutsername@a... wrote: > It is hard for me to believe that any responsible physician would > postpone investigation and treatment of thyroid hormone deficiency in > a developing child with the presumption that everything will be okay > when the mercury is gone. From what I have been reading on this list > I have gathered that the chelation process can take MONTHS and > possibly YEARS before all the metals are out. Chelation will NOT > correct any developmental deficits caused by existing hypothyroidism, > even if the hypothyroidism is caused by mercury toxicity. The > hypothyroidism MAY be resolved by the removal of mercury, but you will > not be able to go back and make up for the time the child had was > deficient in thyroid hormone during those possible months or years of > chelation. > > Also, how do you know if chelation resolves hypothyroidism if you > can't show it was there to begin with????? > > Ricci > > JPiker@a... wrote: > > < Is Amy doing thyroid panels on her patients? I ask this because > what > > you describe with the outer part of the eyebrow missing and the pale > > skin is CLASSIC for hypothyroidism. I would be curious to know if > she > > is doing thyroid panels and whether they are changing with > chelation. > > > > > > > > > No, she didn't run a thyroid panel on my son. I think she said > that > > nothing can be done until we get the mercury levels down and that > would > > pretty much take care of it. > > > > Jo (South Carolina) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2001 Report Share Posted January 28, 2001 > > It is hard for me to believe that any responsible physician would > > postpone investigation and treatment of thyroid hormone deficiency > in > > a developing child with the presumption that everything will be > okay > > when the mercury is gone. These children are often also adrenally insufficient. Supplementing thyroid levels would make them more adrenally insufficient - this is a well known and potentially life threatening interaction. Administering cortisol to correct the adrenal insufficiency has so many attendant risks and difficulties that any physician would wish to avoid having to do it in children if at all possible - hence not treating mild thyroid deficiency that is expected to improve makes a lot of sense. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2001 Report Share Posted January 29, 2001 Andy, In trying to figure out the thyroid question, I just want to make sure I understand your point here: are you saying that it is best for us not to treat a potential thryoid problem in our kids (especially if it's a mild one). And, are most thyroid problems likely to take care of themselves with chelation? I really appreciate your opinions. Thanks! Marisol AndyCutler@... wrote: > These children are often also adrenally insufficient. > > Supplementing thyroid levels would make them more adrenally > insufficient - this is a well known and potentially life threatening > interaction. > > Administering cortisol to correct the adrenal insufficiency has so > many attendant risks and difficulties that any physician would wish to > avoid having to do it in children if at all possible - hence not > treating mild thyroid deficiency that is expected to improve makes a > lot of sense. > > Andy > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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