RE: Fw: Enforcement Report for July 22, 2009

July 26, 2009

Thanks, Jan.

Looks like I have some cytomel I might need

to call in on. How do these recalls work?

Enforcement Report for July 22, 2009

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Date: Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 2:37 PM

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How do we know if ours is included in this? Do we check with

our pharmacy?

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Subject: Fw: Enforcement Report for July 22, 2009

There

are several recalls for thyroid meds including Armour, $ynthroid, Levothroid,

Cytomel and the Mylan generic. Click on the link for the enforcement report

and scroll through.

Subject: Enforcement Report for July 22, 2009

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Jan - am I missing something? I didn't find any Armour recall info since

2005...

Marti

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July 26, 2009

43) Armour Thyroid, 60MG (1 gr) TAB, Mfg. FOR, NDC 00456-0459-01, Rx Only. Recall # D-1380-2009;

From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of Martha LovejoySent: July 26, 2009 10:10To: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Subject: Re: Fw: Enforcement Report for July 22, 2009

Jan - am I missing something? I didn't find any Armour recall info since 2005...Marti Enforcement Report for July 22, 2009> To: texasthyroid> Date: Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 2:37 PM>> Enforcement Report for July 22, 2009> <http://www.fda.gov/Safety/Recalls/EnforcementReports/ucm173256.htm>> Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:20:00 -0500>> The FDA Enforcement Report is published weekly by the Food and Drug> Administration, Department of Health and Human Services. It contains> information on actions taken in connection with agency Regulatory> activities.>> _____>> Manage your FDA Subscriptions:>> * Update your preferences or unsubscribe> <https://service.govdelivery.com/service/user.html?code=USFDA>> * Questions about this service? supportgovdelivery> <http://us.mc568.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=supportgovdelivery>> * Other inquiries? webmail@....gov> <http://us.mc568.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=webmailoc (DOT) fda.gov>>> GovDelivery, Inc. sending on behalf of U.S. Food & Drug Administration > (FDA)> . 5600 Fishers Lane . Rockville MD 20857 . >>>>>>

July 26, 2009

Thanks. All of mine are 30 mg, so I should be okay, right?

Marti

Enforcement Report for July 22, 2009

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July 26, 2009

I finally clicked the right link... this was a bad day for thyroid drugs.

What, exactly, are patients who need these replacement drugs supposed to be

doing? Are they notified by their pharmacies that they got a bad batch?

Are we really supposed to monitor the FDA every single day????

This is sooooooooooooo frustrating.

Marti

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July 26, 2009

I called my pharmacy about the Cytomel and they don’t have those

lot numbers. I overlooked the Armour, so I didn’t ask about that one. I guess

it doesn’t matter since I’m not taking that one anymore.

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[mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of Grace

Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 8:27 AM

To: Texas_Thyroid_Groups

Subject: RE: Fw: Enforcement Report for July 22,

2009

How do we know if ours is included in

this? Do we check with our pharmacy?

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Subject: Fw: Enforcement Report for July 22, 2009

There are several recalls

for thyroid meds including Armour, $ynthroid, Levothroid, Cytomel and the

Mylan generic. Click on the link for the enforcement report and scroll

through.

Subject: Enforcement Report for July 22, 2009

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Date: Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 2:37 PM

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In Texas, the pharmacies are not required to put lot numbers on your prescriptions or otherwise keep track of them. . . . .so they don't bother.

The only time I have ever seen a lot number has been when I have ordered a factory sealed bottle of 100, as I do when I get my Lannett levothyroxine outside of my drug plan.

I am not giving up on Armour, even if at some point I need to temporarily switch to NT or a compound.

We think that Forest is jumping through hoops for the FDA in order to keep Armour on the market. TimeCap Labs has had their thyroid operation shut down by the FDA, because they did not want to do what was necessary to bring their product up to code.

> > > Subject: Enforcement Report for July 22, 2009> To: texasthyroid@...> Date: Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 2:37 PM> > Enforcement Report for July 22, 2009> <http://www.fda.gov/Safety/Recalls/EnforcementReports/ucm173256.htm> > Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:20:00 -0500 > > The FDA Enforcement Report is published weekly by the Food and Drug> Administration, Department of Health and Human Services. It contains> information on actions taken in connection with agency Regulatory> activities. > > _____ > > Manage your FDA Subscriptions: > > * Update your preferences or unsubscribe> <https://service.govdelivery.com/service/user.html?code=USFDA> > * Questions about this service? support@...> <http://us.mc568.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=support@... > * Other inquiries? webmail@...> <http://us.mc568.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=webmail@... > > GovDelivery, Inc. sending on behalf of U.S. Food & Drug Administration (FDA)> . 5600 Fishers Lane . Rockville MD 20857 . >

July 26, 2009

Who is TimeCap Labs? What do they make?

That is absolutely disgusting to me that the pharmacies aren’t

required to track which lot numbers your scripts came from. So in the case of

a recall, there can’t be any claims. How convenient. I know in my case my

pharmacist checked and said he didn’t have that lot number, but who knows if he

was just looking at the bottle on the shelf right now or checking a list or

what.

As someone else asked…how do we know what the problems actually

are?

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[mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of Jan

Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 3:43 PM

To: Texas_Thyroid_Groups

Subject: Re: Fw: Enforcement Report for July 22,

2009

In Texas, the

pharmacies are not required to put lot numbers on your prescriptions or

otherwise keep track of them. . . . .so they don't bother.

The only time I

have ever seen a lot number has been when I have ordered a factory sealed

bottle of 100, as I do when I get my Lannett levothyroxine outside of my drug

plan.

I am not giving up

on Armour, even if at some point I need to temporarily switch to NT or a compound.

We think that Forest

is jumping through hoops for the FDA in order to keep Armour on the market.

TimeCap Labs has had their thyroid operation shut down by the FDA, because they

did not want to do what was necessary to bring their product up to code.

>

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> To: texasthyroid@...

> Date: Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 2:37 PM

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July 27, 2009

TimeCap labs made one of the so-called generics for Armour. (There is no legal generic for Armour.)

>> Who is TimeCap Labs? What do they make?> > > > That is absolutely disgusting to me that the pharmacies aren't required to> track which lot numbers your scripts came from. So in the case of a recall,> there can't be any claims. How convenient. I know in my case my pharmacist> checked and said he didn't have that lot number, but who knows if he was> just looking at the bottle on the shelf right now or checking a list or> what.> > > > As someone else asked.how do we know what the problems actually are?> > > > > > From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups > [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of Jan > Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 3:43 PM> To: Texas_Thyroid_Groups > Subject: Re: Fw: Enforcement Report for July 22, 2009> In Texas, the pharmacies are not required to put lot numbers on your> prescriptions or otherwise keep track of them. . . . .so they don't bother.> > The only time I have ever seen a lot number has been when I have ordered a> factory sealed bottle of 100, as I do when I get my Lannett levothyroxine> outside of my drug plan.> > I am not giving up on Armour, even if at some point I need to temporarily> switch to NT or a compound. > > We think that Forest is jumping through hoops for the FDA in order to keep> Armour on the market. TimeCap Labs has had their thyroid operation shut down> by the FDA, because they did not want to do what was necessary to bring> their product up to code

July 27, 2009

My Armour is recalled!!!! So Caremark doesn't bother to call people when

this happens? Grrrrrr!

Thanks Jan, this probably help to explain the brain fog!

Kate

At 03:45 PM 7/25/2009, you wrote:

>There are several recalls for thyroid meds including Armour, $ynthroid,

>Levothroid, Cytomel and the Mylan generic. Click on the link for the

>enforcement report and scroll through.

>

>Subject: Enforcement Report for July 22, 2009

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July 28, 2009

CVS and Caremark put it on the printout but not on the label. That is

insane that they aren't required to track them. So people go around taking

bad pills and never know it. How many people have been harmed because

drugs are recalled and they don't know about it?! Insane!!!!!

Kate G

At 03:42 PM 7/26/2009, you wrote:

>In Texas, the pharmacies are not required to put lot numbers on your

>prescriptions or otherwise keep track of them. . . . .so they don't bother.

>

>The only time I have ever seen a lot number has been when I have ordered a

>factory sealed bottle of 100, as I do when I get my Lannett levothyroxine

>outside of my drug plan.

>

>I am not giving up on Armour, even if at some point I need to temporarily

>switch to NT or a compound.

>

>We think that Forest is jumping through hoops for the FDA in order to keep

>Armour on the market. TimeCap Labs has had their thyroid operation shut

>down by the FDA, because they did not want to do what was necessary to

>bring their product up to code.

>

> >

> > From: U.S. Food & Drug Administration (FDA) fda@...

> > Subject: Enforcement Report for July 22, 2009

> > To: texasthyroid@...

> > Date: Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 2:37 PM

> >

> > Enforcement Report for July 22, 2009

> > <http://www.fda.gov/Safety/Recalls/EnforcementReports/ucm173256.htm>

> > Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:20:00 -0500

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July 28, 2009

CVS and Caremark put it on the printout but not on the label. That is

insane that they aren't required to track them. So people go around taking

bad pills and never know it. How many people have been harmed because

drugs are recalled and they don't know about it?! Insane!!!!!

Kate G

At 03:42 PM 7/26/2009, you wrote:

>In Texas, the pharmacies are not required to put lot numbers on your

>prescriptions or otherwise keep track of them. . . . .so they don't bother.

>

>The only time I have ever seen a lot number has been when I have ordered a

>factory sealed bottle of 100, as I do when I get my Lannett levothyroxine

>outside of my drug plan.

>

>I am not giving up on Armour, even if at some point I need to temporarily

>switch to NT or a compound.

>

>We think that Forest is jumping through hoops for the FDA in order to keep

>Armour on the market. TimeCap Labs has had their thyroid operation shut

>down by the FDA, because they did not want to do what was necessary to

>bring their product up to code.

>

> >

> > From: U.S. Food & Drug Administration (FDA) fda@...

> > Subject: Enforcement Report for July 22, 2009

> > To: texasthyroid@...

> > Date: Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 2:37 PM

> >

> > Enforcement Report for July 22, 2009

> > <http://www.fda.gov/Safety/Recalls/EnforcementReports/ucm173256.htm>

> > Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:20:00 -0500

> >

> > The FDA Enforcement Report is published weekly by the Food and Drug

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July 28, 2009

That is just the NDC number, not the lot number. The NDC number stays the same from lot to lot. It denotes the drug, the dose and the format or packaging originally sent to the pharmacy. Caremark probably gets the 50,000 pill drums.

I just checked the prescribing information and compared it to my Caremark printout. It is the NDC number for the bottles of 100, not the drums of 50,000. Forest is no longer making any intermediate container sizes.

Caremark does not even keep a record of lot numbers. I found that out when I had a problem with another drug.

>> CVS and Caremark put it on the printout but not on the label. That is > insane that they aren't required to track them. So people go around taking > bad pills and never know it. How many people have been harmed because > drugs are recalled and they don't know about it?! Insane!!!!!> > Kate G

July 28, 2009

Actually, they do track them. You have to look at the lot number too (it's at the end of the section, like a footnote). CVS (and other pharmacies, I suspect) do not put the lot numbers on the prescription, but they can check if you call and ask. I called (on account of your post, I knew where to look for the number--thank you) because my NDC number matched up, and I learned that the lot number is different.

The reason for the recall on the thyroid drugs in the list is Not in conformance with cGMPs.

You can read more about what that means, here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Current_good_manufacturing_practice

From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of Kate GuynnSent: July 27, 2009 18:12To: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Subject: Re: Re: Fw: Enforcement Report for July 22, 2009

CVS and Caremark put it on the printout but not on the label. That is insane that they aren't required to track them. So people go around taking bad pills and never know it. How many people have been harmed because drugs are recalled and they don't know about it?! Insane!!!!!Kate G

July 28, 2009

Actually, they do track them. You have to look at the lot number too (it's at the end of the section, like a footnote). CVS (and other pharmacies, I suspect) do not put the lot numbers on the prescription, but they can check if you call and ask. I called (on account of your post, I knew where to look for the number--thank you) because my NDC number matched up, and I learned that the lot number is different.

The reason for the recall on the thyroid drugs in the list is Not in conformance with cGMPs.

You can read more about what that means, here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Current_good_manufacturing_practice

From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of Kate GuynnSent: July 27, 2009 18:12To: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Subject: Re: Re: Fw: Enforcement Report for July 22, 2009

CVS and Caremark put it on the printout but not on the label. That is insane that they aren't required to track them. So people go around taking bad pills and never know it. How many people have been harmed because drugs are recalled and they don't know about it?! Insane!!!!!Kate G

July 28, 2009

So what do we do when there is a recall. This is so confusing. Do they

replace our pills?

Sorry my brain fog is preventing me from getting words out.

Kate G

At 06:34 PM 7/27/2009, you wrote:

>That is just the NDC number, not the lot number. The NDC number stays the

>same from lot to lot. It denotes the drug, the dose and the format or

>packaging originally sent to the pharmacy. Caremark probably gets the

>50,000 pill drums.

>

>I just checked the prescribing information and compared it to my Caremark

>printout. It is the NDC number for the bottles of 100, not the drums of

>50,000. Forest is no longer making any intermediate container sizes.

>

>Caremark does not even keep a record of lot numbers. I found that out when

>I had a problem with another drug.

>

> >

> > CVS and Caremark put it on the printout but not on the label. That is

> > insane that they aren't required to track them. So people go around taking

> > bad pills and never know it. How many people have been harmed because

> > drugs are recalled and they don't know about it?! Insane!!!!!

> >

> > Kate G

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July 28, 2009

So what do we do when there is a recall. This is so confusing. Do they

replace our pills?

Sorry my brain fog is preventing me from getting words out.

Kate G

At 06:34 PM 7/27/2009, you wrote:

>That is just the NDC number, not the lot number. The NDC number stays the

>same from lot to lot. It denotes the drug, the dose and the format or

>packaging originally sent to the pharmacy. Caremark probably gets the

>50,000 pill drums.

>

>I just checked the prescribing information and compared it to my Caremark

>printout. It is the NDC number for the bottles of 100, not the drums of

>50,000. Forest is no longer making any intermediate container sizes.

>

>Caremark does not even keep a record of lot numbers. I found that out when

>I had a problem with another drug.

>

> >

> > CVS and Caremark put it on the printout but not on the label. That is

> > insane that they aren't required to track them. So people go around taking

> > bad pills and never know it. How many people have been harmed because

> > drugs are recalled and they don't know about it?! Insane!!!!!

> >

> > Kate G

>

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July 28, 2009

I would contact Forest and also your pharmacy. I do not know what they will do for you. They might replace your pills or give you a refund. (lotta good that will do!)

And have you figured out that the FDA does not care about what patients may need? The FDA is the lackey of BigPharm. . . .and probably not even the friend of SmallerPharm. . . . .

> > >> > > CVS and Caremark put it on the printout but not on the label. That is> > > insane that they aren't required to track them. So people go around taking> > > bad pills and never know it. How many people have been harmed because> > > drugs are recalled and they don't know about it?! Insane!!!!!> > >> > > Kate G

July 28, 2009

I think I'm about to contact my doctor and switch to Nature Thyroid. Jan,

why did they change the binder? Was it a cost issue, supply issue or did

they have research that it would be a better product?

My husband and I got into a big argument about how Pharmacies should have

to keep the information about the lot number and post recalls. He said

that only a small amount of the population (those of us that are already

smart and stay informed ) would benefit from it. He said the average

person when asked probably can't remember the name of the drug(s) because

like sheep they just go ask for that purple pill that they saw on TV. And

the stupid doctors just give it to them. While I agree with some of that,

I still think they should have to keep that information, post recalls on

their website and in there store, and take back and replace recalled

items. The drug company should then be required to replace that to them or

refund it.

Kate G

At 12:34 AM 7/28/2009, you wrote:

>I would contact Forest and also your pharmacy. I do not know what they

>will do for you. They might replace your pills or give you a refund.

>(lotta good that will do!)

>

>And have you figured out that the FDA does not care about what patients

>may need? The FDA is the lackey of BigPharm. . . .and probably not even

>the friend of SmallerPharm. . . . .

>

> > > >

> > > > CVS and Caremark put it on the printout but not on the label. That is

> > > > insane that they aren't required to track them. So people go around

> taking

> > > > bad pills and never know it. How many people have been harmed because

> > > > drugs are recalled and they don't know about it?! Insane!!!!!

> > > >

> > > > Kate G

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