Guest guest Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 Try biotin. Lawler wrote: It seems as though we've been fighting yeast FOREVER. About 5-6 months now. We have been on many natural anti fungals, and the SCD. We have been through Nystatin and now are on Diflucan. We've been on Diflucan for about a week and a half and it seems now it's tapering off.Each time we give our son a probiotic his stomach bloats up like a blow fish. We give him the smallest amount and this always happens. We are meeting with our new DAN doctor in 2 weeks and I know he's going to tell us to get on a probiotic. We just tried the Kirkman single strain L. Acidophilus and the same thing happened. Just a 1/4 of a capsule was given. I know in the book "Children with Starving Brains" Dr. McCandless mentions that some children with severe distention can not take a probiotic, but doesn't go any further in to it.It seems as though probiotic is mandatory in fighting yeast and it obviously is- seeing how we just can't get rid of it in order to chelate.Has anyone else had this problem?? Perhaps giving him gas drops with the probiotic, but then are there any SCD legal ones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 If you do try biotin, most need really high doses to regulate yeast--side effects of high-dose biotin are headaches and constipation, usually relieved by Magnesium. You HAVE to give lots of Magnesium when using high-dose biotin. Have you tried giving 1/4 of the probiotic and working upwards? What about the goat's milk yogurt on SCD, have you tried that? What about YCK or water kefir as your probiotic. The bloating may just be a sign of die off--what about charcoal and hour later. Just seeing what you have tried. Beth It seems as though we've been fighting yeast FOREVER. About 5-6 months now. We have been on many natural anti fungals, and the SCD. We have been through Nystatin and now are on Diflucan. We've been on Diflucan for about a week and a half and it seems now it's tapering off.Each time we give our son a probiotic his stomach bloats up like a blow fish. We give him the smallest amount and this always happens. We are meeting with our new DAN doctor in 2 weeks and I know he's going to tell us to get on a probiotic. We just tried the Kirkman single strain L. Acidophilus and the same thing happened. Just a 1/4 of a capsule was given. I know in the book "Children with Starving Brains" Dr. McCandless mentions that some children with severe distention can not take a probiotic, but doesn't go any further in to it.It seems as though probiotic is mandatory in fighting yeast and it obviously is- seeing how we just can't get rid of it in order to chelate.Has anyone else had this problem?? Perhaps giving him gas drops with the probiotic, but then are there any SCD legal ones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 Yes, it does have casein but apparently better tolerated than cow's milk and it's fermented so it makes it easier to digest. Lots of info re this on pecanbread.com YCK--lots of discussion about this--Young coconut kefir--you can search previous posts on how to make, etc--my kid can't do coconut so I just ordered kefir grains for water kefir. Kefirs are fermented drinks/yogurts etc. They have natural "probiotics" so live acidophillus, etc attached to foods that transport it to the body better than capsules--I think that' the theory anyway It seems as though we've been fighting yeast FOREVER. About 5-6 months now. We have been on many natural anti fungals, and the SCD. We have been through Nystatin and now are on Diflucan. We've been on Diflucan for about a week and a half and it seems now it's tapering off.Each time we give our son a probiotic his stomach bloats up like a blow fish. We give him the smallest amount and this always happens. We are meeting with our new DAN doctor in 2 weeks and I know he's going to tell us to get on a probiotic. We just tried the Kirkman single strain L. Acidophilus and the same thing happened. Just a 1/4 of a capsule was given. I know in the book "Children with Starving Brains" Dr. McCandless mentions that some children with severe distention can not take a probiotic, but doesn't go any further in to it.It seems as though probiotic is mandatory in fighting yeast and it obviously is- seeing how we just can't get rid of it in order to chelate.Has anyone else had this problem?? Perhaps giving him gas drops with the probiotic, but then are there any SCD legal ones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 Yes, it does have casein but apparently better tolerated than cow's milk and it's fermented so it makes it easier to digest. Lots of info re this on pecanbread.com YCK--lots of discussion about this--Young coconut kefir--you can search previous posts on how to make, etc--my kid can't do coconut so I just ordered kefir grains for water kefir. Kefirs are fermented drinks/yogurts etc. They have natural "probiotics" so live acidophillus, etc attached to foods that transport it to the body better than capsules--I think that' the theory anyway It seems as though we've been fighting yeast FOREVER. About 5-6 months now. We have been on many natural anti fungals, and the SCD. We have been through Nystatin and now are on Diflucan. We've been on Diflucan for about a week and a half and it seems now it's tapering off.Each time we give our son a probiotic his stomach bloats up like a blow fish. We give him the smallest amount and this always happens. We are meeting with our new DAN doctor in 2 weeks and I know he's going to tell us to get on a probiotic. We just tried the Kirkman single strain L. Acidophilus and the same thing happened. Just a 1/4 of a capsule was given. I know in the book "Children with Starving Brains" Dr. McCandless mentions that some children with severe distention can not take a probiotic, but doesn't go any further in to it.It seems as though probiotic is mandatory in fighting yeast and it obviously is- seeing how we just can't get rid of it in order to chelate.Has anyone else had this problem?? Perhaps giving him gas drops with the probiotic, but then are there any SCD legal ones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 I am going to try some activated charcoal with the probiotic again, hopefully it will alleviate the bloat.Any suggestions on amount of charcoal to give?  My son is 28 lbs.Thanks!Yes, it does have casein but apparently better tolerated than cow's milk and it's fermented so it makes it easier to digest. Lots of info re this on pecanbread.com YCK--lots of discussion about this--Young coconut kefir--you can search previous posts on how to make, etc--my kid can't do coconut so I just ordered kefir grains for water kefir. Kefirs are fermented drinks/yogurts etc. They have natural "probiotics" so live acidophillus, etc attached to foods that transport it to the body better than capsules--I think that' the theory anyway--- On Fri, 5/30/08, Lawler <jenny.lawlerslothjaer> wrote:From: Lawler <jenny.lawlerslothjaer>Subject: Re: Probiotic HelpTo: mb12 valtrex Date: Friday, May 30, 2008, 5:01 PMWe haven't tried any of that.  I'm a little worried about the goat yogurt, does this have caesin?What is YCK or water kefir?We are going to try charcoal, esp. seeing how his dark circles under the eyes are much more prominent with the Diflucan.If you do try biotin, most need really high doses to regulate yeast--side effects of high-dose biotin are headaches and constipation, usually relieved by Magnesium. You HAVE to give lots of Magnesium when using high-dose biotin. Have you tried giving 1/4 of the probiotic and working upwards? What about the goat's milk yogurt on SCD, have you tried that? What about YCK or water kefir as your probiotic. The bloating may just be a sign of die off--what about charcoal and hour later. Just seeing what you have tried. Beth--- On Fri, 5/30/08, angie carter <angcarter97@ yahoo.com> wrote:From: angie carter <angcarter97@ yahoo.com>Subject: Re: Probiotic HelpTo: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comDate: Friday, May 30, 2008, 3:03 PMTry biotin. Lawler <jenny.lawler@ slothjaer. com> wrote:It seems as though we've been fighting yeast FOREVER. About 5-6 months now. We have been on many natural anti fungals, and the SCD. We have been through Nystatin and now are on Diflucan. We've been on Diflucan for about a week and a half and it seems now it's tapering off.Each time we give our son a probiotic his stomach bloats up like a blow fish. We give him the smallest amount and this always happens. We are meeting with our new DAN doctor in 2 weeks and I know he's going to tell us to get on a probiotic. We just tried the Kirkman single strain L. Acidophilus and the same thing happened. Just a 1/4 of a capsule was given. I know in the book "Children with Starving Brains" Dr. McCandless mentions that some children with severe distention can not take a probiotic, but doesn't go any further in to it.It seems as though probiotic is mandatory in fighting yeast and it obviously is- seeing how we just can't get rid of it in order to chelate.Has anyone else had this problem?? Perhaps giving him gas drops with the probiotic, but then are there any SCD legal ones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 I am going to try some activated charcoal with the probiotic again, hopefully it will alleviate the bloat.Any suggestions on amount of charcoal to give?  My son is 28 lbs.Thanks!Yes, it does have casein but apparently better tolerated than cow's milk and it's fermented so it makes it easier to digest. Lots of info re this on pecanbread.com YCK--lots of discussion about this--Young coconut kefir--you can search previous posts on how to make, etc--my kid can't do coconut so I just ordered kefir grains for water kefir. Kefirs are fermented drinks/yogurts etc. They have natural "probiotics" so live acidophillus, etc attached to foods that transport it to the body better than capsules--I think that' the theory anyway--- On Fri, 5/30/08, Lawler <jenny.lawlerslothjaer> wrote:From: Lawler <jenny.lawlerslothjaer>Subject: Re: Probiotic HelpTo: mb12 valtrex Date: Friday, May 30, 2008, 5:01 PMWe haven't tried any of that.  I'm a little worried about the goat yogurt, does this have caesin?What is YCK or water kefir?We are going to try charcoal, esp. seeing how his dark circles under the eyes are much more prominent with the Diflucan.If you do try biotin, most need really high doses to regulate yeast--side effects of high-dose biotin are headaches and constipation, usually relieved by Magnesium. You HAVE to give lots of Magnesium when using high-dose biotin. Have you tried giving 1/4 of the probiotic and working upwards? What about the goat's milk yogurt on SCD, have you tried that? What about YCK or water kefir as your probiotic. The bloating may just be a sign of die off--what about charcoal and hour later. Just seeing what you have tried. Beth--- On Fri, 5/30/08, angie carter <angcarter97@ yahoo.com> wrote:From: angie carter <angcarter97@ yahoo.com>Subject: Re: Probiotic HelpTo: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comDate: Friday, May 30, 2008, 3:03 PMTry biotin. Lawler <jenny.lawler@ slothjaer. com> wrote:It seems as though we've been fighting yeast FOREVER. About 5-6 months now. We have been on many natural anti fungals, and the SCD. We have been through Nystatin and now are on Diflucan. We've been on Diflucan for about a week and a half and it seems now it's tapering off.Each time we give our son a probiotic his stomach bloats up like a blow fish. We give him the smallest amount and this always happens. We are meeting with our new DAN doctor in 2 weeks and I know he's going to tell us to get on a probiotic. We just tried the Kirkman single strain L. Acidophilus and the same thing happened. Just a 1/4 of a capsule was given. I know in the book "Children with Starving Brains" Dr. McCandless mentions that some children with severe distention can not take a probiotic, but doesn't go any further in to it.It seems as though probiotic is mandatory in fighting yeast and it obviously is- seeing how we just can't get rid of it in order to chelate.Has anyone else had this problem?? Perhaps giving him gas drops with the probiotic, but then are there any SCD legal ones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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