Guest guest Posted March 7, 2004 Report Share Posted March 7, 2004 In a message dated 3/7/04 9:50:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, dougchef70@... writes: men are suckers for an attractive female who smiles at them Ok...we agree to disagree. I will count to 10 before responding. With Equally Kind Regards, Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2004 Report Share Posted March 7, 2004 Carol The cufflinks may have been a poor choice but is hardly horrid. Living with a BP can be horrid. I don't find the desire to have a family that unusual in those who choose to marry. Its pretty much tradition that the royal heirs try to marry someone with blue blood in their veins so I don't find that all too unusual. I guess I write off his poor choice to the reality that men are suckers for an attractive female who smiles at them and seems to find them wonderful just the way they are. We'll probably have to agree to disagree on this one as knowing the underlying truths will be nearly impossible. Kind regards Doug Re: Re: Princess ... Here I go...both feet... WHO CHEATED FIRST? discovered on her HONEYMOON that was wearing cufflinks from longtime (MARRIED) girlfriend Camilla...a wedding gift, how simply rude to his new wife??? How inappropriate for even you or me to have done that? Don't you think he would have one other pair of cufflinks on that boat...but he chose, CHOSE mind you, to express loyalty to Camilla as he celebrated his marriage to ? What a way to begin a lifetime together...I'm sure expected, going into that marriage, to be treated as a future queen by her husband...in the LEAST shown some semblance of sincere affection. And I don't know how 'congenial' I could be knowing that the man who 'said' he loves me insults me so soon after marriage with such an in-your-face reality check: quite casually informed that what he needed from me was heirs with respectable lineage. I don't know how could be expected to hold her head up in the presence of his family knowing that she'd been 'selected' to be the next queen of England specifically because of her genealogy, virginal condition, immaturity, and dependency. I'm not convinced that it is at all fair to categorize her disordered anything...except perhaps thoroughly disgusted with the pretenses of the Royal Family. What a surreal life she had led; abandoned by her mother, ignored by her father, presented with a fairytail rescue from (no less than) a future king...and finding that your Prince Charming/husband has no further use for you after the heirs are produced. B P...in 's case maybe that stands for Bigtime Pissedoff. [and I'm not even a fan] Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2004 Report Share Posted March 7, 2004 - 8 - 9 - 10 - Hi Doug, I would not profess to know whether had a 'personality disorder' or not; simply that whatever she went into that marriage with was insulted. The 'cufflinks' is HUGE, Doug...ask any newlywed. was 19...how developed could her personality have been; she had never even had a boyfriend before. So how profoundly was her development affected by marrying into the monarchy? Again, I think HUGE. The perception of what she was entering into was scary; but the reality shook her completely. [i guess I write off his poor choice to the reality that men are suckers for an attractive female who smiles at them and seems to find them wonderful just the way they are.] If I recall correctly, the Queen told him to either marry her or leave her alone. , being 9th cousin to anyway, felt obliged to honor her family by accepting his proposal. I'm really glad my people are commoners. Carol Carol The cufflinks may have been a poor choice but is hardly horrid. Living with a BP can be horrid. I don't find the desire to have a family that unusual in those who choose to marry. Its pretty much tradition that the royal heirs try to marry someone with blue blood in their veins so I don't find that all too unusual. I guess I write off his poor choice to the reality that men are suckers for an attractive female who smiles at them and seems to find them wonderful just the way they are. We'll probably have to agree to disagree on this one as knowing the underlying truths will be nearly impossible. Kind regards Doug Re: Re: Princess ... Here I go...both feet... WHO CHEATED FIRST? discovered on her HONEYMOON that was wearing cufflinks from longtime (MARRIED) girlfriend Camilla...a wedding gift, how simply rude to his new wife??? How inappropriate for even you or me to have done that? Don't you think he would have one other pair of cufflinks on that boat...but he chose, CHOSE mind you, to express loyalty to Camilla as he celebrated his marriage to ? What a way to begin a lifetime together...I'm sure expected, going into that marriage, to be treated as a future queen by her husband...in the LEAST shown some semblance of sincere affection. And I don't know how 'congenial' I could be knowing that the man who 'said' he loves me insults me so soon after marriage with such an in-your-face reality check: quite casually informed that what he needed from me was heirs with respectable lineage. I don't know how could be expected to hold her head up in the presence of his family knowing that she'd been 'selected' to be the next queen of England specifically because of her genealogy, virginal condition, immaturity, and dependency. I'm not convinced that it is at all fair to categorize her disordered anything...except perhaps thoroughly disgusted with the pretenses of the Royal Family. What a surreal life she had led; abandoned by her mother, ignored by her father, presented with a fairytail rescue from (no less than) a future king...and finding that your Prince Charming/husband has no further use for you after the heirs are produced. B P...in 's case maybe that stands for Bigtime Pissedoff. [and I'm not even a fan] Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2004 Report Share Posted March 7, 2004 Yes was insulted when she married. Of that there is no doubt. She was young, in love and extroardinarily naive. She had lived a very sheltered life and was a virgin when she married which (then) was of paramount importance for many reasons, not the least of which was to render it impossible for the British press to savage her with sordid accounts of her past. <<The 'cufflinks' is HUGE, Doug...ask any newlywed.>. Or married woman, or girlfriend, or significant other. << was 19...how developed could her personality have been; She had never even had a boyfriend before.>> Yes she had. She was still physically 'intact' but wasn't her first boyfriend. <<So how profoundly was her development affected by marrying into the monarchy? Again, I think HUGE. The perception of what she was entering into was scary; but the reality shook her completely.>> As indeed it would shake anyone. Not as scary as you or I - since 's blood runs bluer than even ' himself, but enormously scary nonetheless. But who knows, someone as needy as getting married, who knows............. [i guess I write off his poor choice to the reality that men are suckers for an attractive female who smiles at them and seems to find them wonderful just the way they are.] Many, many women smiled at . He had more women throwing themselves at him than he could deal with. Don't forget, we are talking about a fabulously wealthy man (by European standards) with immeasurable rank and status. <<the Queen told him to either marry her or leave her alone.>> Yes, because HIS biogical clock was ticking. << being 9th cousin to anyway, felt obliged to honor her family by accepting his proposal.>> No, she had no guidance or support from her family at this time. (Mother had left long ago, Dad busy with new wife at al.) <<I'm really glad my people are commoners. >> Aren't we all? . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 Hi Carol I believe have learned quite a few tidbits I wasn't aware of from your posts. And I just finished watching my inadvertant tape of the special. What more do you need? You know enough about bpd to make the diagnosis now. If not, Edith posted Randi Kreger's news release which makes the diagnosis for you by both Randi and Mason. got 9 out of 9 on the diagnostic criteria. It's not unusual for a BP to split her hubby bad on their wedding day, it happened to me. They are completely capable of finding some reason to blame their complete devaluation of the spouse, the cufflinks, the presence of Camilla at the wedding whatever. Quite frankly, I don't see how an heir to the throne could avoid being narcisstic, so I won't say is completely innocent. However, there was at least one credible testimonial giving him credit for being resonable and concerned. And we really haven't heard his story the way we heard 's. That marriage was probably the highest profile example of how easy it is to be mislead and making the wrong choice in spouse selection. I'm just a commoner too and am trying to make the best of it, actually it's reasonably good at times. Anyway, this is my last post on the matter, or we will have to start charging admission for entertainment. Doug Re: Re: Princess ... Here I go...both feet... WHO CHEATED FIRST? discovered on her HONEYMOON that was wearing cufflinks from longtime (MARRIED) girlfriend Camilla...a wedding gift, how simply rude to his new wife??? How inappropriate for even you or me to have done that? Don't you think he would have one other pair of cufflinks on that boat...but he chose, CHOSE mind you, to express loyalty to Camilla as he celebrated his marriage to ? What a way to begin a lifetime together...I'm sure expected, going into that marriage, to be treated as a future queen by her husband...in the LEAST shown some semblance of sincere affection. And I don't know how 'congenial' I could be knowing that the man who 'said' he loves me insults me so soon after marriage with such an in-your-face reality check: quite casually informed that what he needed from me was heirs with respectable lineage. I don't know how could be expected to hold her head up in the presence of his family knowing that she'd been 'selected' to be the next queen of England specifically because of her genealogy, virginal condition, immaturity, and dependency. I'm not convinced that it is at all fair to categorize her disordered anything...except perhaps thoroughly disgusted with the pretenses of the Royal Family. What a surreal life she had led; abandoned by her mother, ignored by her father, presented with a fairytail rescue from (no less than) a future king...and finding that your Prince Charming/husband has no further use for you after the heirs are produced. B P...in 's case maybe that stands for Bigtime Pissedoff. [and I'm not even a fan] Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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