Guest guest Posted February 1, 2001 Report Share Posted February 1, 2001 I am new to this board, but am glad I found it because we have recently begun chelating our 2 year old son (30 pounds) under our DAN doctor's supervision. He is following the DAN subcommittee position paper version 1.5 protocol. It calls for every 8 hours of DMSA dosing. This is what we have been doing, 50 mg (low dose) every 8 hours. Are there any of you on this board that are doing q8 hour dosing, or is everyone doing q4 hour dosing? By the way, we got the reults back from my son's first post-DMSA provocation challenge. It showed moderately elevated aluminum, tin, and nickel, but no mercury. His baseline hair test was also negative for mercury but high in other heavy metals such as arsenic, aluminum, cadmium, and bismuth. I could not figure out the counting rules. At this point I am unsure if my son even needs chelation. According to my doctor, there is not a good test to see who is a good candidate. We are going to try for a few more cycles to see what comes out, if anything. Can anyone please advise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2001 Report Share Posted February 1, 2001 Many on the list have noted that other metals often come out first, then the mercury (even if tests didn't show it elevated) and feel that a variety of heavy metals contribute to autism spectrum disorders. If you see toxic metals coming out w/ chelation and note benefits or at least no negative side effects, reducing the toxic body burden is bound to help. Consider apple pectin (from health food stores) for the aluminum. Note that many on the list showed excretion of other metals and then once some of those had cleared eventually got mercury out too even when it hadn't showed up on tests. Haven't heard who has used what for the nickel excretion (would like to find out since my mother has off the chart high nickel manifesting as Alzheimer's. I need to look at her hair analysis again to see if the scatter indicates Hg. Had it done by a lab in OH, I'll have to look to recall the name, see if the counting rules apply and forward that info on to the NAET practitoner who ordered it so he knows what to look for in others in the future. I'm totally convinced that my mother also has mercury issues and couldn't believe the hair analysis didn't show it but that was before I knew about counting rules (Thanks Andy). Any ideas of sources of these metals affecting your child? Reducing or eliminating on-going exposure? Aluminum: baking powder, fluoridated water, deodorant, aluminum cookware, cans, pop cans, etc. some vaccines. Nickel: hydrogented foods, " stainless steel " posts in crowned teeth and dental caps, orthodontic braces... S -------------------------------------------------------------- I am new to this board, but am glad I found it because we have recently begun chelating our 2 year old son (30 pounds) under our DAN doctor's supervision. He is following the DAN subcommittee position paper version 1.5 protocol. It calls for every 8 hours of DMSA dosing. This is what we have been doing, 50 mg (low dose) every 8 hours. Are there any of you on this board that are doing q8 hour dosing, or is everyone doing q4 hour dosing? By the way, we got the reults back from my son's first post-DMSA provocation challenge. It showed moderately elevated aluminum, tin, and nickel, but no mercury. His baseline hair test was also negative for mercury but high in other heavy metals such as arsenic, aluminum, cadmium, and bismuth. I could not figure out the counting rules. At this point I am unsure if my son even needs chelation. According to my doctor, there is not a good test to see who is a good candidate. We are going to try for a few more cycles to see what comes out, if anything. Can anyone please advise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2001 Report Share Posted February 2, 2001 > I am new to this board, but am glad I found it because we have > recently begun chelating our 2 year old son (30 pounds) under our DAN > doctor's supervision. He is following the DAN subcommittee position > paper version 1.5 protocol. It calls for every 8 hours of DMSA > dosing. This is what we have been doing, 50 mg (low dose) every 8 > My daughter is using the 8hr protocol. She is improving, actually saying a few words on command:)(She never could do this before) She is also calmer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 Our 120# daughter takes about 18mg dmsa per dose. I would NOT give 100mg per dose to a 68# child!!!! Taking the dose[50 mg] I had been giving her myself this fall made me lower it lots. B. In , " " <m4thmiller@c...> wrote: > > Hello all, > He is 68 lbs and on 100mg every 4 > hours. Is this correct? > > M > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 dmsa schedule Importance: High Hello all, I have been away for a while. I have started my son on the DMSA per the DAN dr. today. This is a little ahead of schedule since the dentist had an opening to get the fillings out so we could start. He is 68 lbs and on 100mg every 4 hours. Is this correct? This is the first round and I'm kind of nervous so is this right? I know the dose is low, but the dr. said he wanted it low to see what it pulled and how he reacted. We're doing a urine test on day 3. Thank you! M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 > He is 68 lbs and on 100mg every 4 > hours. Is this correct? > I know the dose is low, but the dr. said he > wanted it low to see what it pulled and how he reacted. This is a low dose? My son is 50+ lb and he reacts badly to 8 mg of DMSA. I know some kids can tolerate higher doses, but I would suggest you start with a smaller dose than 100 mg. The recommended " safe " dose is 1/8 to 1/2 mg of DMSA per pound of body weight, per dose. That would be 8.5 mg to 34 mg for your son. Valentina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Thanks for all your help. That is quite a difference. The dr. said that he could start at 200mg, but that 100 was low. I'll check it. Don't the people on this list open the capsules and divide them with sauces or something? What happens to your kids if they do get too much? Thank you again, M Re: [ ] FW: dmsa schedule > He is 68 lbs and on 100mg every 4 > hours. Is this correct? > I know the dose is low, but the dr. said he > wanted it low to see what it pulled and how he reacted. This is a low dose? My son is 50+ lb and he reacts badly to 8 mg of DMSA. I know some kids can tolerate higher doses, but I would suggest you start with a smaller dose than 100 mg. The recommended " safe " dose is 1/8 to 1/2 mg of DMSA per pound of body weight, per dose. That would be 8.5 mg to 34 mg for your son. Valentina ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 Getting too much greatly increases the chance of redistribution of the toxins (mercury, lead) pushing them into other parts of the body where they can do more harm rather than actually chelating (getting them out). Yes, many on this list open the capsules and divide them. S S <tt> Thanks for all your help. That is quite a difference. The dr. said<BR> that he could start at 200mg, but that 100 was low. I'll check it.<BR> Don't the people on this list open the capsules and divide them with<BR> sauces or something? <BR> What happens to your kids if they do get too much?<BR> Thank you again,<BR> M<BR> <BR> _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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