Re: IgG Food Sensitivity Question (Alletess)

[Guest guest]

We had a similar situation with Alletess and my son. The difference

with cheese however is that it contains enzymes that might make it

easier to digest for your child and not show a reaction. However,

when casein is broken down by our kids' bodies the body recognizes it

as an opioid similar to heroin so that's why most of us avoid it.

Someone correct me here, but that is my understanding of why our kids

do well on GFCF because those two specific proteins are not recognized

properly by their bodies.

Angele

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> We just got this test back on my son. He has no food allergies on the

> IgE panel, but a few sensitivities on the IgG. He shows a plus 3 to

> cows milk, but no reaction at all to the 3 cheeses on the test. How

> is that possible?

>

> We have been casein free since November. Surely this doesn't mean

> cheese is OK for him. Anyone had similar results? It just doesn't

> seem to make sense.

>

> Thanks,

>

>

[Guest guest]

But my IGG shows specifically " casein " and " milk " as seperate items

tested for....with NO sensitivity. I have heard about the opiods

also, but I am NOT so sure that applies if you are NOT sensitive to

those foods ? Would that not show as a sensitivity ? I dont really

get it either. I just dont feed him cheese or milk anyway, but I am

not worried about them either.

> >

> > We just got this test back on my son. He has no food allergies

on the

> > IgE panel, but a few sensitivities on the IgG. He shows a plus 3

to

> > cows milk, but no reaction at all to the 3 cheeses on the test.

How

> > is that possible?

> >

> > We have been casein free since November. Surely this doesn't

mean

> > cheese is OK for him. Anyone had similar results? It just

doesn't

> > seem to make sense.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I have a question that maybe some of you can answer. If you were to use

this kind of test on an individual who has been GFDF for about 3 years,

then would it(gluten and dairy) show up as being an allergy/allergic

food? The antibodies would not be present in the body, right? Correct

me if I'm wrong. I really wanted to test my 6 yo dd, but she's been

GFDF for over 3 years, and I was told that she would need to be put

back on gluten and dairy for 6 weeks prior to the test so that the body

would have time to make antibodies. Any thoughts? I just cannot fathom

allowing her to eat all this stuff that we have so carefully shielded

her from for all these years. Only then to take it away again!!! KWIM?

Summer

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> But my IGG shows specifically " casein " and " milk " as seperate items

> tested for....with NO sensitivity.

[Guest guest]

Summer,

My daughter had IgG through Alletess fall 06. Her gluten and casein

response is extreme[seizures] and it was not ever suggested to put

her back on these for the testing. Despite being gfcfsf for several

years, she had a class 2 response to cow's milk. There were other

high responses i.e. class 3 to oats, peanut, - not anything she'd had

in years! Other IgG positives, such as, coffee and nutrasweet, she

had NEVER had. The allergist told us that positive IgG can last a

lifetime so the theory that it reduces once you lay off the item for

awhile may not be accurate. Her IgG was coordinated with skin

testing. Between the 2, she had many items eliminated. Some items

that did not show IgG elevations showed a high skin response- cod was

one of these! from all the years of CLO, I assume; the same for

grapes, cocoa, potato, rice. Some of this was confirming of what we

knew by trial and error. Peanut, cocoa, cola put her close to

seizures-wild behavior- so we had avoided those. Some, a complete

surprise. If it had not been coordinated[igG and skin] I don't think

we would have seen such a good response, one of which is a rise in

IgA. She has had 'no measurable' IgA for about a dozen years. It has

begun to rise since we eliminated more items and gave her gut a

break. I would not think of giving gluten and casein again for my

daughter,testing or no.

> >

> > But my IGG shows specifically " casein " and " milk " as seperate

items

> > tested for....with NO sensitivity.

>

[Guest guest]

You need to remember that the casein protein mimics the proteins in the dpt and thats why even though kids are not allergic they do better staying away from it.

R

[Guest guest]

what is the dpt?

>

> You need to remember that the casein protein mimics the proteins in the dpt

and thats

why even though kids are not allergic they do better staying away from it.

> R

>

[Guest guest]

I dont think it works that way, I assume that the test item is introduced to the

blood

sample. Because there are many other foods that come up that we never fed, and

they

were sensitive - like Navy bean. My son never ate that. And he was mod.

sensitive. I think

they add the potential allergen to the blood in the lab, but I may be

wrong.....

> >

> > But my IGG shows specifically " casein " and " milk " as seperate items

> > tested for....with NO sensitivity.

>

[Guest guest]

I think there is a difference between food sensitivity and allergy testing. If you were to do a food allergy test then the food may need to be consumed. I believe the food sensitivity test doesnt require eating the food. If your child comes up sensitive to a food it doesn't mean they are actually really allergic to it. I could be wrong, but thats what I thought

Re: IgG Food Sensitivity Question (Alletess)

I dont think it works that way, I assume that the test item is introduced to the blood sample. Because there are many other foods that come up that we never fed, and they were sensitive - like Navy bean. My son never ate that. And he was mod. sensitive. I think they add the potential allergen to the blood in the lab, but I may be wrong.....-- - In mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com, "summergrogan" <summergrogan97@ ...> wrote:>> I have a question that maybe some of you can answer. If you were to use > this kind of test on an individual who has been GFDF for about 3 years, > then would it(gluten and dairy) show up as being an allergy/allergic > food? The antibodies would not be present in the body, right? Correct > me if I'm wrong. I really wanted to test my 6 yo dd, but

she's been > GFDF for over 3 years, and I was told that she would need to be put > back on gluten and dairy for 6 weeks prior to the test so that the body > would have time to make antibodies. Any thoughts? I just cannot fathom > allowing her to eat all this stuff that we have so carefully shielded > her from for all these years. Only then to take it away again!!! KWIM?> > Summer> > > >> > But my IGG shows specifically "casein" and "milk" as seperate items > > tested for....with NO sensitivity.>

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[Guest guest]

THese food intolerances are indicators of injury, not nec allergy or

even sensitivities...the mout to the anus should be like a tube, not

a seive...once there are teares and fissures all sorts of things can

wreak havoc...so I am now thinking and testing out the enzymes

approach mroe aggressively as it mimics the SCD in that the gopal is

to make sure nothing undigested or broken down leaves the gut and

goes elsewhere to feed pathogens. As they starve off and die the gut

can finally heal slowly...it is possible that Matt is getting a bit

high from the tiny amounts of casein in the butter and the ferm goat

milk yogurt - - about 5tvl a day with high dose probiotics....on the

other hand we accept healing regressions etc with other

interventions...so if he EATS green veggies and other healing foods,

for now, we are thinking, okay a crop of casein - fine. Gluten is

another matter as it further injures, at least in our home. Di

>

> You need to remember that the casein protein mimics the proteins in

the dpt and thats why even though kids are not allergic they do

better staying away from it.

> R

>