Re: digestive stool analysis-help understanding

May 21, 2008

you don't want it that high, I have put a therory out there with this line and probotics adding it the issues, does your probotics have the strep line in it? does your child have tics or OCD issues? does he struggle with strep throat at all? have you ever had ASO titers done?

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digestive stool analysis-help understanding

On a Genova Digestive stool analysis, under microbiology-ADDITIONAL BACTERIA- my sons test says alpha haemolytic streptococcus, NP 4 +.Does anyone know what this means? Strep in the gut ? Or does the NP (non-pathogen) mean something else?Is this normal bacterial flora?

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May 21, 2008

you don't want it that high, I have put a therory out there with this line and probotics adding it the issues, does your probotics have the strep line in it? does your child have tics or OCD issues? does he struggle with strep throat at all? have you ever had ASO titers done?

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digestive stool analysis-help understanding

On a Genova Digestive stool analysis, under microbiology-ADDITIONAL BACTERIA- my sons test says alpha haemolytic streptococcus, NP 4 +.Does anyone know what this means? Strep in the gut ? Or does the NP (non-pathogen) mean something else?Is this normal bacterial flora?

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May 21, 2008

Christel,

I want to make sure I'm understanding this the right way...so your

theory is that even in the " imbalances " section of the stool analysis

report, these bacteria could be causing issues? I know I asked Pam at

Great Plains to explain this section to me because I was concerned,

but she said it was fine. Dr. Mumper never commented on them either.

but... (with diagnosed ASD) has gamma strep at 2+. My other

little guy, Carson (NT, but I think with OCD tendencies galore) has

alpha haemolytic strep at 3+ and I have gamma strep at 4+. We all

have at least some OCD tendencies. Carson's are worse than 's. I

don't think the probios we were using at the time of testing had strep

strains, but I can double check today at the store. was tested

for PANDAS, but was normal. What are ASO titers?

and Levi's story was great. At what point did you feel comfortable

presenting him as recovered? We are pretty sure that would have

his autism diagnosis dropped at this point, but we don't want to do it

until we can also put all of this biomedical junk behind us. I guess

we just don't feel like we're there yet, afraid of a relapse if

something gets messed up biomedically...it's weird that it's a more

difficult decision for us to make than getting the diagnosis in the

first place. Your story was definitely inspiring. I can't wait to

get ours out there...in time

Kari

-- In mb12 valtrex , " Christel King " wrote:

>

> you don't want it that high, I have put a therory out there with

this line and probotics adding it the issues, does your probotics

have the strep line in it? does your child have tics or OCD issues?

does he struggle with strep throat at all? have you ever had ASO

titers done?

>

> Recovering from Autism is a marathon

> NOT a sprint, but FULLY possible!

> Read more about it on my BLOGs at

> http://www.myspace.com/christelking

> http://foggyrock.com/MyPage/recoveringwishes

> digestive stool analysis-help understanding

>

> On a Genova Digestive stool analysis, under

microbiology-ADDITIONAL BACTERIA- my sons

> test says alpha haemolytic streptococcus, NP 4 +.

> Does anyone know what this means? Strep in the gut ? Or does the

NP (non-pathogen) mean

> something else?

> Is this normal bacterial flora?

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May 21, 2008

-Just to add: my son has a pos+ ASO titer, and is now being treated for PANDAS.

This

stool test was performed prior to that, and even prior to using probiotics. I

was wondering

about strep IN THE GUT, as I recently read one of Stans files posted by a mom

who cured

her child's PANDAS with Diflucan and two other antifungals. Thats where my head

is at-is

this showing a strain in the gut, and what is non-pathogen?

-- In mb12 valtrex , " karicreehan " wrote:

>

> Christel,

>

> I want to make sure I'm understanding this the right way...so your

> theory is that even in the " imbalances " section of the stool analysis

> report, these bacteria could be causing issues? I know I asked Pam at

> Great Plains to explain this section to me because I was concerned,

> but she said it was fine. Dr. Mumper never commented on them either.

>

> but... (with diagnosed ASD) has gamma strep at 2+. My other

> little guy, Carson (NT, but I think with OCD tendencies galore) has

> alpha haemolytic strep at 3+ and I have gamma strep at 4+. We all

> have at least some OCD tendencies. Carson's are worse than 's. I

> don't think the probios we were using at the time of testing had strep

> strains, but I can double check today at the store. was tested

> for PANDAS, but was normal. What are ASO titers?

>

> and Levi's story was great. At what point did you feel comfortable

> presenting him as recovered? We are pretty sure that would have

> his autism diagnosis dropped at this point, but we don't want to do it

> until we can also put all of this biomedical junk behind us. I guess

> we just don't feel like we're there yet, afraid of a relapse if

> something gets messed up biomedically...it's weird that it's a more

> difficult decision for us to make than getting the diagnosis in the

> first place. Your story was definitely inspiring. I can't wait to

> get ours out there...in time

>

> Kari

>

> -- In mb12 valtrex , " Christel King " <christel76@> wrote:

> >

> > you don't want it that high, I have put a therory out there with

> this line and probotics adding it the issues, does your probotics

> have the strep line in it? does your child have tics or OCD issues?

> does he struggle with strep throat at all? have you ever had ASO

> titers done?

> >

> > Recovering from Autism is a marathon

> > NOT a sprint, but FULLY possible!

> > Read more about it on my BLOGs at

> > http://www.myspace.com/christelking

> > http://foggyrock.com/MyPage/recoveringwishes

> > digestive stool analysis-help understanding

> >

> > On a Genova Digestive stool analysis, under

> microbiology-ADDITIONAL BACTERIA- my sons

> > test says alpha haemolytic streptococcus, NP 4 +.

> > Does anyone know what this means? Strep in the gut ? Or does the

> NP (non-pathogen) mean

> > something else?

> > Is this normal bacterial flora?

> >

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May 21, 2008

HERE IS THE FILE: It is called " one familys recovery from Pandas " or something

close to

that :

My son tested positive on the PANDAS panel from Immunosciences Lab three

years ago. He had three episodes of PANDAS (sudden onset severe OCD lasting

8-12 days) in 10 mos. He had high titers to strep as well as antibodies to

myelin basic protein and other brain cells tested for on the panel. He never

had strep throat. All the cultures were negative. My DAN! consulted with Dr.

Usman who was thinking that it was due to strep in the gut vs. the throat.

He also had clostridia. So after spending a huge amount for oral IG which

did nothing, we did a three day course of gentamycin and vancomycin with

diflucan followed by loading with lots of probiotics. That was three years

ago and we have not had another episode since.

From: " xxxxx

Date: Fri May 12, 2006 7:54am(PDT)

Subject: Re: high strep titers

His DAN's nurse just called and said they are going to do a PANDA's

test with such high titers and if it comes back positive that will

justify IVIG to be covered by insurance for treatment.

Yes, my son has OCD and Focus issues.

Thanks,

xxxxxxx

>

> Recovering from Autism is a marathon

> NOT a sprint, but FULLY possible!

> Read more about it on my BLOGs at

> http://www.myspace.com/christelking

> http://foggyrock.com/MyPage/recoveringwishes

> digestive stool analysis-help understanding

> >

> > On a Genova Digestive stool analysis, under

> microbiology-ADDITIONAL BACTERIA- my sons

> > test says alpha haemolytic streptococcus, NP 4 +.

> > Does anyone know what this means? Strep in the gut ? Or does the

> NP (non-pathogen) mean

> > something else?

> > Is this normal bacterial flora?

> >

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May 21, 2008

-ANy idea what might indicate if the strep is acually in the gut ?

I will ask my DAN tomorrow, and see about this 3 day theory. I contacted GENEVA

and they

said non-pathogenic means not harmful (ok, how can strep in a PANDAS kid not be

harmful) and I have to talk to my doctor and they cant answer my

questions........It was

pos+ ASO and pos+ DNASE and no strep is in the probiotics......-- In

mb12 valtrex , " Christel King " wrote:

>

> yes this is talking about it being in the gut and not regular strep thraot

kinda stuff, so

yes PANDAS, BUT they treated with antibotics as well and yeast fighters (for if

antibotics

flare yeast) which is typical of PANDAS....and they also mentioned probotics

>

> we are saying the same thing

>

> Recovering from Autism is a marathon

> NOT a sprint, but FULLY possible!

> Read more about it on my BLOGs at

> http://www.myspace.com/christelking

> http://foggyrock.com/MyPage/recoveringwishes

> digestive stool analysis-help understanding

> > >

> > > On a Genova Digestive stool analysis, under

> > microbiology-ADDITIONAL BACTERIA- my sons

> > > test says alpha haemolytic streptococcus, NP 4 +.

> > > Does anyone know what this means? Strep in the gut ? Or does the

> > NP (non-pathogen) mean

> > > something else?

> > > Is this normal bacterial flora?

> > >

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May 21, 2008

-ANy idea what might indicate if the strep is acually in the gut ?

I will ask my DAN tomorrow, and see about this 3 day theory. I contacted GENEVA

and they

said non-pathogenic means not harmful (ok, how can strep in a PANDAS kid not be

harmful) and I have to talk to my doctor and they cant answer my

questions........It was

pos+ ASO and pos+ DNASE and no strep is in the probiotics......-- In

mb12 valtrex , " Christel King " wrote:

>

> yes this is talking about it being in the gut and not regular strep thraot

kinda stuff, so

yes PANDAS, BUT they treated with antibotics as well and yeast fighters (for if

antibotics

flare yeast) which is typical of PANDAS....and they also mentioned probotics

>

> we are saying the same thing

>

> Recovering from Autism is a marathon

> NOT a sprint, but FULLY possible!

> Read more about it on my BLOGs at

> http://www.myspace.com/christelking

> http://foggyrock.com/MyPage/recoveringwishes

> digestive stool analysis-help understanding

> > >

> > > On a Genova Digestive stool analysis, under

> > microbiology-ADDITIONAL BACTERIA- my sons

> > > test says alpha haemolytic streptococcus, NP 4 +.

> > > Does anyone know what this means? Strep in the gut ? Or does the

> > NP (non-pathogen) mean

> > > something else?

> > > Is this normal bacterial flora?

> > >

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May 21, 2008

BTW, every so often a species of bacteria is reclassified from normal flora to pathogenic. Enough parents have voiced concerns over any type of strep species that it might just be better to avoid.Caryn Reid

May 21, 2008

Christel,

feel free to pass my comments on to the reporter. I want them to know

how much her story means to so many out there. I'm still floored when

I go to my local support group meetings that there are parents out

there who don't know the good that can come from biomedical

intervention. the more we can get in the media, the better

We used to struggle with whether or not to let people know about

's diagnosis. It was pretty clear to everyone that something was

off, but we hated the label. We've come so far now. I don't hesitate

to disclose the label because it is followed by a brief explanation of

his recovery. You never know who needs that info. That it's

possible. And we live in a small town. so if someone doesn't know

now, someday they will...someday when 's on the football field and

someone whispers, " Hey...that kid used to have autism " . Word spreads

here. At this point, I pretty much assume that people know and

they're tiptoeing around not wanting me to know that they know.

whatever...I support you in your quest to get our info out there.

Like i said. In time, we hope to do the same.

and thanks for the info about the strep...I'm going to spend a little

time researching in that direction.

Thanks!

Kari

> >

> > you don't want it that high, I have put a therory out there with

> this line and probotics adding it the issues, does your probotics

> have the strep line in it? does your child have tics or OCD issues?

> does he struggle with strep throat at all? have you ever had ASO

> titers done?

> >

> > Recovering from Autism is a marathon

> > NOT a sprint, but FULLY possible!

> > Read more about it on my BLOGs at

> > http://www.myspace.com/christelking

> > http://foggyrock.com/MyPage/recoveringwishes

> > digestive stool analysis-help understanding

> >

> > On a Genova Digestive stool analysis, under

> microbiology-ADDITIONAL BACTERIA- my sons

> > test says alpha haemolytic streptococcus, NP 4 +.

> > Does anyone know what this means? Strep in the gut ? Or does the

> NP (non-pathogen) mean

> > something else?

> > Is this normal bacterial flora?

> >

> ----------------------------------------------------------

> >

> > No virus found in this incoming message.

> > Checked by AVG.

> > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.21/1458 - Release Date:

> 5/21/2008 7:21 AM

> >

>

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