Re: Re: digestive stool analysis-help understanding

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thank you, we have had regression rob us of our gains 2 times, one with a PANDAS flare, another with a GI scope with nitrious oxide (also has a question of strep exposure with it) our ped before both regressions was telling us he no longer qualified as autistic. our state has a mandate of sorts that every 3 years you are reevaluated. we knew he was doing well, they redid his eval and told us he no longer qualified as autistic and was 1 point from teetering with a PDD label or just speech delayed. but due to the regression history and the school notings ect they did go with the PDD so if we had another one instead of scrambleing to get another dx to get services we had it in our pocket if need be. the other thing the news didn't mention was that they lady that removed his label in testing also GAVE Him his label 3 years ago, so this isn't a difference of opion from one person to the next. but the same evaluation person!! making it even cooler. she cried with us as she told us the outcome. needeless to say we were thrilled. are you ok with me shareing your comments below. we are compiling the responces we get from the media for the reporter and for levi's scrap book through autism. but I want to make sure I have permission to share first

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digestive stool analysis-help understanding> > > On a Genova Digestive stool analysis, undermicrobiology-ADDITIONAL BACTERIA- my sons > test says alpha haemolytic streptococcus, NP 4 +.> Does anyone know what this means? Strep in the gut ? Or does theNP (non-pathogen) mean > something else?> Is this normal bacterial flora?> > > > > > >----------------------------------------------------------> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG. > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.21/1458 - Release Date:5/21/2008 7:21 AM>

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oh sorry about that, I forgot to answer your questions., I have a therory going that have been testing in a small group of people and feel that i am on to something, I have had many responces now saying they are seeing the same thing, those with gamma strep showing in stool, who are using probotics with strep lines in their probotics and PANDAS and the body misinterpeting the strep stains in the probotics as bad strep and flairing PANDAS episodes and it showing in stool testing at the same time. then they remove the probotics with the strep strain to see it go away on the stool tests and ASO and B antanase (sure I spelled that wrong) correcting themselves. many of these have tried 3 rounds of z pack with no number going down or do OLE to fight (with better success) but found this made the fight easier or not needed, or made the results stick with the change

just a theory but so far testing out well

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digestive stool analysis-help understanding> > > On a Genova Digestive stool analysis, undermicrobiology-ADDITIONAL BACTERIA- my sons > test says alpha haemolytic streptococcus, NP 4 +.> Does anyone know what this means? Strep in the gut ? Or does theNP (non-pathogen) mean > something else?> Is this normal bacterial flora?> > > > > > >----------------------------------------------------------> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG. > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.21/1458 - Release Date:5/21/2008 7:21 AM>

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non pathagenic means non harmful that we know of. there is still a desireable rate you want it at, I believe 2 on the strep is where they like to see it or 1 can't remember. it may also be which is why I put all that forward that he had strep issues all the way back then, meaning PANDAS, as many kids have it with out knowing it. keep us updated as you treat the PANDAS if you see the stool strep go away, that is what I am keeping track of.

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digestive stool analysis-help understanding> > > > > > On a Genova Digestive stool analysis, under> microbiology-ADDITIONAL BACTERIA- my sons > > test says alpha haemolytic streptococcus, NP 4 +.> > Does anyone know what this means? Strep in the gut ? Or does the> NP (non-pathogen) mean > > something else?> > Is this normal bacterial flora?> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------> > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> > Checked by AVG. > > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.21/1458 - Release Date:> 5/21/2008 7:21 AM> >>

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yes this is talking about it being in the gut and not regular strep thraot kinda stuff, so yes PANDAS, BUT they treated with antibotics as well and yeast fighters (for if antibotics flare yeast) which is typical of PANDAS....and they also mentioned probotics

we are saying the same thing

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digestive stool analysis-help understanding> > > > > > On a Genova Digestive stool analysis, under> microbiology-ADDITIONAL BACTERIA- my sons > > test says alpha haemolytic streptococcus, NP 4 +.> > Does anyone know what this means? Strep in the gut ? Or does the> NP (non-pathogen) mean > > something else?> > Is this normal bacterial flora?> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> ----------------------------------------------------------> > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> > Checked by AVG. > > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.21/1458 - Release Date:> 5/21/2008 7:21 AM> >> > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG. > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.21/1458 - Release Date: 5/21/2008 7:21 AM>

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yes this is talking about it being in the gut and not regular strep thraot kinda stuff, so yes PANDAS, BUT they treated with antibotics as well and yeast fighters (for if antibotics flare yeast) which is typical of PANDAS....and they also mentioned probotics

we are saying the same thing

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digestive stool analysis-help understanding> > > > > > On a Genova Digestive stool analysis, under> microbiology-ADDITIONAL BACTERIA- my sons > > test says alpha haemolytic streptococcus, NP 4 +.> > Does anyone know what this means? Strep in the gut ? Or does the> NP (non-pathogen) mean > > something else?> > Is this normal bacterial flora?> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> ----------------------------------------------------------> > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> > Checked by AVG. > > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.21/1458 - Release Date:> 5/21/2008 7:21 AM> >> > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG. > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.21/1458 - Release Date: 5/21/2008 7:21 AM>

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I would (with this therory) change probotics to one with out and see if it goes away. also does your child have OCD as well?? PANDAS is anti antibodies to strep. ASO is not the only test needing to be done to show PANDAS, B antanase is the other (I made be misspelling that, my spelling is so bad spell checks don't help) it's many things that qualify PANDAS, not just one test

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digestive stool analysis-help understanding> > > > > > On a Genova Digestive stool analysis, under> microbiology- ADDITIONAL BACTERIA- my sons > > test says alpha haemolytic streptococcus, NP 4 +.> > Does anyone know what this means? Strep in the gut ? Or does the> NP (non-pathogen) mean > > something else?> > Is this normal bacterial flora?> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> > Checked by AVG. > > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.21/1458 - Release Date:> 5/21/2008 7:21 AM> >> > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ------------> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG. > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.21/1458 - Release Date: 5/21/2008 7:21 AM>

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I would (with this therory) change probotics to one with out and see if it goes away. also does your child have OCD as well?? PANDAS is anti antibodies to strep. ASO is not the only test needing to be done to show PANDAS, B antanase is the other (I made be misspelling that, my spelling is so bad spell checks don't help) it's many things that qualify PANDAS, not just one test

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digestive stool analysis-help understanding> > > > > > On a Genova Digestive stool analysis, under> microbiology- ADDITIONAL BACTERIA- my sons > > test says alpha haemolytic streptococcus, NP 4 +.> > Does anyone know what this means? Strep in the gut ? Or does the> NP (non-pathogen) mean > > something else?> > Is this normal bacterial flora?> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> > Checked by AVG. > > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.21/1458 - Release Date:> 5/21/2008 7:21 AM> >> > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ------------> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG. > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.21/1458 - Release Date: 5/21/2008 7:21 AM>

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I would (with this therory) change probotics to one with out and see if it goes away. also does your child have OCD as well?? PANDAS is anti antibodies to strep. ASO is not the only test needing to be done to show PANDAS, B antanase is the other (I made be misspelling that, my spelling is so bad spell checks don't help) it's many things that qualify PANDAS, not just one test

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digestive stool analysis-help understanding> > > > > > On a Genova Digestive stool analysis, under> microbiology- ADDITIONAL BACTERIA- my sons > > test says alpha haemolytic streptococcus, NP 4 +.> > Does anyone know what this means? Strep in the gut ? Or does the> NP (non-pathogen) mean > > something else?> > Is this normal bacterial flora?> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> > Checked by AVG. > > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.21/1458 - Release Date:> 5/21/2008 7:21 AM> >> > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ------------> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG. > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.21/1458 - Release Date: 5/21/2008 7:21 AM>

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yeah that is PANDAS, and yes if it shows on the stool test you have it in the gut as that is what they are saying is coming out, weither there is connection or not is the question

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digestive stool analysis-help understanding> > > > > > > > > On a Genova Digestive stool analysis, under> > microbiology-ADDITIONAL BACTERIA- my sons > > > test says alpha haemolytic streptococcus, NP 4 +.> > > Does anyone know what this means? Strep in the gut ? Or does the> > NP (non-pathogen) mean > > > something else?> > > Is this normal bacterial flora?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > ----------------------------------------------------------> > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> > > Checked by AVG. > > > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.21/1458 - Release Date:> > 5/21/2008 7:21 AM> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------> -----------> > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> > Checked by AVG. > > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.21/1458 - Release Date: 5/21/2008 7:21 > AM> >> > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG. > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.21/1458 - Release Date: 5/21/2008 7:21 AM>

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Thanks so much for the info - he has a little bit of OCD tendencies but nothing that hinders his lifestyle. It doesn't look like B antanase was performed only the ASO. I'll have to check into that one!

digestive stool analysis-help understanding> > > > > > On a Genova Digestive stool analysis, under> microbiology- ADDITIONAL BACTERIA- my sons > > test says alpha haemolytic

streptococcus, NP 4 +.> > Does anyone know what this means? Strep in the gut ? Or does the> NP (non-pathogen) mean > > something else?> > Is this normal bacterial flora?> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> > Checked by AVG. > > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.21/1458 - Release Date:> 5/21/2008 7:21 AM> >> > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ------------> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG. > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.21/1458 - Release Date: 5/21/2008 7:21

AM>

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It's actually called Anti DNase.CherylThanks so much for the info - he has a little bit of OCD tendencies but nothing that hinders his lifestyle.  It doesn't look like B antanase was performed only the ASO.  I'll have to check into that one!  digestive stool analysis-help understanding> > > > > > On a Genova Digestive stool analysis, under> microbiology- ADDITIONAL BACTERIA- my sons > > test says alpha haemolytic streptococcus, NP 4 +.> > Does anyone know what this means? Strep in the gut ? Or does the> NP (non-pathogen) mean > > something else?> > Is this normal bacterial flora?> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> > Checked by AVG. > > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.21/1458 - Release Date:> 5/21/2008 7:21 AM> >> > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ------------> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG. > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.21/1458 - Release Date: 5/21/2008 7:21 AM>No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.21/1458 - Release Date: 5/21/2008 7:21 AM

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thanks there should be a B in front of that as well correct, B anti DNase??? yes???

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digestive stool analysis-help understanding> > > > > > On a Genova Digestive stool analysis, under> microbiology- ADDITIONAL BACTERIA- my sons > > test says alpha haemolytic streptococcus, NP 4 +.> > Does anyone know what this means? Strep in the gut ? Or does the> NP (non-pathogen) mean > > something else?> > Is this normal bacterial flora?> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> > Checked by AVG. > > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.21/1458 - Release Date:> 5/21/2008 7:21 AM> >> > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ------------> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG. > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.21/1458 - Release Date: 5/21/2008 7:21 AM>

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