Re: what is your problem? > for Dan

[Guest guest]

Hi Dan,

I sounds like your son was brainwashed and has PAS.

PAS is a problem we read about all the time on the WTOparenting list.

You might want to look at this website:

http://www.parentalalienation.com/pasdirectory.htm

- Edith

Dan wrote:

> My oldest son hasn't communicated with me since the divorce almost 20

> years ago. He has never said why, to me or to anyone else who will

> tell me. During the divorce he wrote me hate letters calling me a

> murderer and a rapist, but never said why he felt that way or what he

> thought I had actually done or failed to do. He appeared on TV to

> talk about coming out gay and said that I rejected him because I hate

> gays. He knows those are lies.

>

> He told my mother that I got drunk and beat him, and she believed him

> and stopped communicating with me. Of course she didn't even ask me

> about it. When I found out about it and confronted them both he

> admitted that it had never happened but said " it could have and that

> is the same thing " . Yeah, it could have, only in his mother's

> twisted manipulative lies.

>

> Probably the main problem is that I failed to protect him from his

> mother. I don't know if he is consciously aware of that.

>

> I would welcome an angry letter from him, if it told me something

> about his reasons for hating me. It would hurt, but it would be a

> starting point. I would like to make amends for what I did or failed

> to do.

[Guest guest]

My God, Edith, I missed your posting about PAS and just happened to

see it now.

> http://www.parentalalienation.com/pasdirectory.htm

Reading this was VERY upsetting for me. Frightening. It dragged me

back into the Auschwitz I lived through.

My ex-wife was absolutely an obsessive alienator. Her hatred of me

had nothing to do with anything I had done or not done. It was pure

psychosis.

When I read of the symptoms, I realized suddenly that she was

alienating my son, and therefore that she was consumed with this

hatred for me, for many years before the divorce. DAMN THOSE

SHRINKS who didn't even have a clue that this was happening. DAMN

MY NADA who hated my wife but believed her poisonous lies about me.

My ex-wife's obsessive hatred convinced EVERYBODY in the legal

system of my evilness. Lawyers, social workers, judge, all joined

forces to empower her destruction of me and my son.

DAMN THE LEGAL SYSTEM of the USA and the state of Colorado for

aiding and empowering this torture.

DAMN my ex-wife.

- Dan

[Guest guest]

So very sorry, Dan. I read that too. It IS very frightening. Can you

imagine how often it happens?? And how little the people in the

legal profession actually realize it??

Nada did this to me. For a long time, she had me convinced that my

father was the antichrist. Now I look back & realize she was the one

who always started all the nasty fights/filthy language/name

calling. She deserved anything she got back. Dad told me many times

that nada was crazy. I couldn't see it. I am so angry now. He has

been dead 10 years & I realize I never knew him. I was born when he

was 52, and I know very little of his life before I was born, & I

have lost that chance forever. She stole it from me.

I hope sending that letter gives you some release.

> My God, Edith, I missed your posting about PAS and just happened

to

> see it now.

>

> > http://www.parentalalienation.com/pasdirectory.htm

>

> Reading this was VERY upsetting for me. Frightening. It dragged

me

> back into the Auschwitz I lived through.

>

> My ex-wife was absolutely an obsessive alienator. Her hatred of

me

> had nothing to do with anything I had done or not done. It was

pure

> psychosis.

>

> When I read of the symptoms, I realized suddenly that she was

> alienating my son, and therefore that she was consumed with this

> hatred for me, for many years before the divorce. DAMN THOSE

> SHRINKS who didn't even have a clue that this was happening. DAMN

> MY NADA who hated my wife but believed her poisonous lies about me.

>

> My ex-wife's obsessive hatred convinced EVERYBODY in the legal

> system of my evilness. Lawyers, social workers, judge, all joined

> forces to empower her destruction of me and my son.

>

> DAMN THE LEGAL SYSTEM of the USA and the state of Colorado for

> aiding and empowering this torture.

>

> DAMN my ex-wife.

>

> - Dan