Guest guest Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 Shanon how frustrated you must feel. My experiences are to look at this in a different way. My son also shows no allergies. Yes yes yes, keep going. I know this is so hard. I look at it this way. I also went GFCF and then BED because I was nursing my baby girl. Going through the experience taught me so much about my own body and how food affects me. I'm not on the spectrum, but boy do I feel better, eliminate better, sleep better etc... when I stay at the vey least GFCF, whole foods as possible, and cultured foods. My thinking is regardless if they show allergies, our babies are SICK and it makes sense to me to give them the most digestable and highly nutritious foods we can get into them. I don't have the money to do a scope or pill cam on my son. We're spending our money on Hbot and everything else. I bet a picture of what is going on inside would give all of us another piece of data to understand how important it is to stay at this. Shanon I don't know your family or child. I don't really know. Follow your instincts. You may be posting because this is so frustrating and you may know that you need to keep at this, but you need support. A GFCF diet is good for any human. If you aren't seeing a positive direction with diet we may need to get more advanced and take more things out and put more things in. It's not fair that any of us have to do this, but know that we are all in this together. You are not alone. If you need some direction about the next step with diet that may help, I'm here. > > My sons IgG4 Food Antibodies shows NO response to all or most of the foods that most of > this group are avoiding...... > His sensitivites were mild to cashew abd pineapple, lentil, oat, olive, onion and spinach ! > He had MODERATE sensitivity to navy bean, peanut, and soybean. > Everything else- is fine. > He had been GF/CF for over 6 months with no response. > > He shows no sensitivity at all to wheat or milk or casein. > > My question is, of course: ARe people in this group showing similar results, and STILL not > giving the kids these foods ? > > I am very confused. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 I was always told dark circles under the eyes indicate a food allergy. Re: Question on Diets Shanon how frustrated you must feel. My experiences are to look at this in a different way. My son also shows no allergies. Yes yes yes, keep going. I know this is so hard. I look at it this way. I also went GFCF and then BED because I was nursing my baby girl. Going through the experience taught me so much about my own body and how food affects me. I'm not on the spectrum, but boy do I feel better, eliminate better, sleep better etc... when I stay at the vey least GFCF, whole foods as possible, and cultured foods. My thinking is regardless if they show allergies, our babies are SICK and it makes sense to me to give them the most digestable and highly nutritious foods we can get into them. I don't have the money to do a scope or pill cam on my son. We're spending our money on Hbot and everything else. I bet a picture of what is going on inside would give all of us another piece of data to understand how important it is to stay at this. Shanon I don't know your family or child. I don't really know. Follow your instincts. You may be posting because this is so frustrating and you may know that you need to keep at this, but you need support. A GFCF diet is good for any human. If you aren't seeing a positive direction with diet we may need to get more advanced and take more things out and put more things in. It's not fair that any of us have to do this, but know that we are all in this together. You are not alone. If you need some direction about the next step with diet that may help, I'm here. >> My sons IgG4 Food Antibodies shows NO response to all or most of the foods that most of > this group are avoiding......> His sensitivites were mild to cashew abd pineapple, lentil, oat, olive, onion and spinach !> He had MODERATE sensitivity to navy bean, peanut, and soybean.> Everything else- is fine.> He had been GF/CF for over 6 months with no response.> > He shows no sensitivity at all to wheat or milk or casein.> > My question is, of course: ARe people in this group showing similar results, and STILL not > giving the kids these foods ?> > I am very confused.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 You are not alone. > If you need some > direction about the next step with diet that > may help, I'm here. > > > I know this is off topic, but I want to say how great I think this group is. Also, thank you Stan, for not restricting this list to MB12 + Valtrex questions. Kim ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 my boys didn't respond to the GFCF diet either, but did to the SCD diet, but not as much as I had hoped. They responded more to the SCD diet. If this doesn't help, I don't know what I will do, either. I feel your disappointment and frustration. I am depressed myself. Rhonda > > > > My sons IgG4 Food Antibodies shows NO response to all or most of > the foods that most of > > this group are avoiding...... > > His sensitivites were mild to cashew abd pineapple, lentil, oat, > olive, onion and spinach ! > > He had MODERATE sensitivity to navy bean, peanut, and soybean. > > Everything else- is fine. > > He had been GF/CF for over 6 months with no response. > > > > He shows no sensitivity at all to wheat or milk or casein. > > > > My question is, of course: ARe people in this group showing similar > results, and STILL not > > giving the kids these foods ? > > > > I am very confused. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 My Son did not show allergies to any grains yet does well on a no grain diet similar to SCD. It is supposed that the bad bacteria and other things in the gut are feeding on the grains and then excreteing their toxins, causing behaviours. This problem is different than an allergy but still affects his health and therefore behaviours. We have done a 6 month course of anti fungals and valtrex now maintaining with oil of oregano. (Canadian protocols are a bit more reserved than American) We are slowly reintroducing the grains into his diet that he hasnt seen for almost a year. We have been GF for over 5 years and are still staying GF/CF/DF/SF but would like to reintroduce rice etc. The gains we have made in the last year with extra diet restrictions and meds have been excellent and we will do whatever it takes to keep them. I know it is hard to keep restricting the diet but if you are not seeing gains on gluten free/dairy free try removing soy and other known problems for a week at a time. Your black circles should soon disappear. For the black circles make sure your vitamins are getting absorbed somewhere other than the gut. Like nasal or sublingual B vitamins, zinc etc. Keep up the good work Val > > > > I was always told dark circles under the eyes indicate a food > allergy. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 dark circles, yes I have to take more out for my son again, he is reacting to foods. Thanks for reminder, this has been on my mind. Rhonda, I follow BED with great success, but I'm looking to learn more from SCD. Maybe cultured foods can help, food combining huge for us. There's more to try, hang in there. Maybe parts of both diets can work for you. > > > > > > My sons IgG4 Food Antibodies shows NO response to all or most > of > > the foods that most of > > > this group are avoiding...... > > > His sensitivites were mild to cashew abd pineapple, lentil, > oat, > > olive, onion and spinach ! > > > He had MODERATE sensitivity to navy bean, peanut, and soybean. > > > Everything else- is fine. > > > He had been GF/CF for over 6 months with no response. > > > > > > He shows no sensitivity at all to wheat or milk or casein. > > > > > > My question is, of course: ARe people in this group showing > similar > > results, and STILL not > > > giving the kids these foods ? > > > > > > I am very confused. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 I have two kids on the spectrum and my older son responded a lot better to the gfcf diet than my younger, but I keep him on it and they both showed no reaction to the allergens on the tests. It is healthier. Even for us parents. Good Luck. Luciana > > > > > > > > My sons IgG4 Food Antibodies shows NO response to all or most > > of > > > the foods that most of > > > > this group are avoiding...... > > > > His sensitivites were mild to cashew abd pineapple, lentil, > > oat, > > > olive, onion and spinach ! > > > > He had MODERATE sensitivity to navy bean, peanut, and soybean. > > > > Everything else- is fine. > > > > He had been GF/CF for over 6 months with no response. > > > > > > > > He shows no sensitivity at all to wheat or milk or casein. > > > > > > > > My question is, of course: ARe people in this group showing > > similar > > > results, and STILL not > > > > giving the kids these foods ? > > > > > > > > I am very confused. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 Dark circles under the eye is also B12 deficiency. Have you read about feingold diet? shun away from high phenolic foods, salicylates, dyes, & additives; read the entire food label front & back. Search the inbox that pertain to high oxalate foods & avoid them. That's why I cook dinner from scratch. But, we eat eggs and use egg in baking.Even if you dont see any changes, continue the gfcf, corn-free, etc. anyway. Reduce his meat intake to 2oz bc of ammonia buildup. Took over a year b4 I see the benefits of gfcf on my son. rhondamasengale wrote: my boys didn't respond to the GFCF diet either, but did to the SCD diet, but not as much as I had hoped. They responded more to the SCD diet. If this doesn't help, I don't know what I will do, either. I feel your disappointment and frustration. I am depressed myself.Rhonda> >> > My sons IgG4 Food Antibodies shows NO response to all or most of > the foods that most of > > this group are avoiding......> > His sensitivites were mild to cashew abd pineapple, lentil, oat, > olive, onion and spinach !> > He had MODERATE sensitivity to navy bean, peanut, and soybean.> > Everything else- is fine.> > He had been GF/CF for over 6 months with no response.> > > > He shows no sensitivity at all to wheat or milk or casein.> > > > My question is, of course: ARe people in this group showing similar > results, and STILL not > > giving the kids these foods ?> > > > I am very confused.> >> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 Yes, I just found out about BED and I am already trying to get things ready for trying some fermented veggies. I can't wait to try it out. Problem with my guys is that the Sarccharomyces sp. has colonized them and it makes them MORE autistic! Great Plains said that it was unusual for that to happen, but it can. I have to be careful what types of fermentation products I use. Thank you for referring me to it! RHonda > > > > > > > > My sons IgG4 Food Antibodies shows NO response to all or most > > of > > > the foods that most of > > > > this group are avoiding...... > > > > His sensitivites were mild to cashew abd pineapple, lentil, > > oat, > > > olive, onion and spinach ! > > > > He had MODERATE sensitivity to navy bean, peanut, and soybean. > > > > Everything else- is fine. > > > > He had been GF/CF for over 6 months with no response. > > > > > > > > He shows no sensitivity at all to wheat or milk or casein. > > > > > > > > My question is, of course: ARe people in this group showing > > similar > > > results, and STILL not > > > > giving the kids these foods ? > > > > > > > > I am very confused. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 There are much more than dark circles under the eyes when it comes to allergic reactions; it can range from swelling to stop breathing to runny nose. Reactions can appear as a rash, crankiness, stomach pain and more. Also my son has seizures when he has gluten in his diet and no seizures when we take it out. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 IT IS FOR HEALING NOT FOREVER...that is the mantra in our house. It makes it much easier to cut things if you remember that the eliminations of healthy for normal gut and immune systems foods are NOT forever, so the sooner the better..... > > > > > > > > My sons IgG4 Food Antibodies shows NO response to all or most > > of > > > the foods that most of > > > > this group are avoiding...... > > > > His sensitivites were mild to cashew abd pineapple, lentil, > > oat, > > > olive, onion and spinach ! > > > > He had MODERATE sensitivity to navy bean, peanut, and soybean. > > > > Everything else- is fine. > > > > He had been GF/CF for over 6 months with no response. > > > > > > > > He shows no sensitivity at all to wheat or milk or casein. > > > > > > > > My question is, of course: ARe people in this group showing > > similar > > > results, and STILL not > > > > giving the kids these foods ? > > > > > > > > I am very confused. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 , Can you clarify on food combining? Thanks. Kim --- tylertaylin wrote: > dark circles, yes I have to take more > out for my son again, > he is reacting to foods. Thanks for reminder, > this has been on my > mind. > > Rhonda, > I follow BED with great success, but I'm > looking to learn more from > SCD. Maybe cultured foods can help, food > combining huge for us. > There's more to try, hang in there. Maybe > parts of both diets can > work for you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My sons IgG4 Food Antibodies shows NO > response to all or most > > of > > > the foods that most of > > > > this group are avoiding...... > > > > His sensitivites were mild to cashew > abd pineapple, lentil, > > oat, > > > olive, onion and spinach ! > > > > He had MODERATE sensitivity to navy > bean, peanut, and soybean. > > > > Everything else- is fine. > > > > He had been GF/CF for over 6 months > with no response. > > > > > > > > He shows no sensitivity at all to wheat > or milk or casein. > > > > > > > > My question is, of course: ARe people > in this group showing > > similar > > > results, and STILL not > > > > giving the kids these foods ? > > > > > > > > I am very confused. > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 The majority of the time, yes, it's food but it can also be viral.CherylI was always told dark circles under the eyes indicate a food allergy. Re: Question on DietsShanon how frustrated you must feel. My experiences are to look at this in a different way. My son also shows no allergies. Yes yes yes, keep going. I know this is so hard. I look at it this way. I also went GFCF and then BED because I was nursing my baby girl. Going through the experience taught me so much about my own body and how food affects me. I'm not on the spectrum, but boy do I feel better, eliminate better, sleep better etc... when I stay at the vey least GFCF, whole foods as possible, and cultured foods. My thinking is regardless if they show allergies, our babies are SICK and it makes sense to me to give them the most digestable and highly nutritious foods we can get into them. I don't have the money to do a scope or pill cam on my son. We're spending our money on Hbot and everything else. I bet a picture of what is going on inside would give all of us another piece of data to understand how important it is to stay at this. Shanon I don't know your family or child. I don't really know. Follow your instincts. You may be posting because this is so frustrating and you may know that you need to keep at this, but you need support. A GFCF diet is good for any human. If you aren't seeing a positive direction with diet we may need to get more advanced and take more things out and put more things in. It's not fair that any of us have to do this, but know that we are all in this together. You are not alone. If you need some direction about the next step with diet that may help, I'm here. >> My sons IgG4 Food Antibodies shows NO response to all or most of the foods that most of > this group are avoiding......> His sensitivites were mild to cashew abd pineapple, lentil, oat, olive, onion and spinach !> He had MODERATE sensitivity to navy bean, peanut, and soybean.> Everything else- is fine.> He had been GF/CF for over 6 months with no response.> > He shows no sensitivity at all to wheat or milk or casein.> > My question is, of course: ARe people in this group showing similar results, and STILL not > giving the kids these foods ?> > I am very confused.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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