re: bioenergetic testing

January 8, 2001

have never heard the expression:

BIOENERGETIC testing. May I ask what that is?

Aly

It is a commonly used test method developed in Europe

and now used in the U.S. a lot by alternative doctors and mercury free

dentist. Its based on Chinese medicine principals re the energy

meridians; called EDS testing or EAV testing most commonly, though there

may be other versions. They use computer tied in equipment to measure

resistivity along the prime energy meridians and look for blockages and

improper functioning of the various body organs as determined by the

effect on the energy meridians. I've posted lots of abstracts on some

lists from Medline,etc. Myself and my son have had such tests using

Vega or Listen equipment. www.biomeridian.com was a web site with info

on this a couple of years ago. May still be there. There is a lot

of info on the web and medline about such. I think its useful per my

research and experience, if you have a well trained tester. Similar as

other things. Documented to be accurate for allergy testing, etc. for

example.

Bernie

January 25, 2011

This is nothing of the like.

This is scientifically shown and the mainstream medicine says that about all non

standard meds and yet many on this forum can testify help if not cure.

Separate the wheat from chaff , well I mentioned I tested the two ,, one a chiro

the other a bio-energetic tester (uses a computer and program fed through

acupressure points) and they were getting the same results.

I and others I know first hand and some otherwise have seen it work over and

over. Not faith healing , no smoke and mirrors.

Although modern medicine can at times provide that themselves.

Look at the use or over use of Blood in surgery , when their are often much

better alternatives , EPO,hemo dilution , cell salvage, cauterizing scalpelÂ

and the like and yet. They result to blood often because it is easy to just be a

less meticulous and pour in the blood as well as the Hugh profits a hospital

makes from it.

Actually when I went into it I did not believe it would help , but they pin

pointed it and how far along and were right there with what the Dr's had said

but found even more.

I too scoff at faith healers and magic but this is not at all in the same arena.

They use to scoff at Chiropactors and even many do today. But they are quite

good at helping align the the body to help our body heal itself.

find a bio energetic tester in your are and test them yourself. But find a good

one they are only as good as the practitioner. (maybe one that has been around a

while or referred.)

Dennis

Conventional Medicine is perhaps the only system of medicine that does not

allow for some sort of bioenergy. That said, how would practitioners,

especially the paid kind, ever be sorted such that you could separate the wheat

from the chaff? If we go to see a stage psychic, mentalist, hypnotist or

magician we go for amusement; we may not be sophisticated enough to know how

they do it, but we certainly are sophisticated enough to know that there are

real world explanations.

Of the thousands of stage performers who orchestrate over millions of

seeming miracles, are there any left who try to get away with saying that their

magic is the real thing? The closest to this seems to be some of the swami

types who present before a self-selected new-age type audience. I have seen a

well-heeled audience gladly pay massive amounts of money for " readings. "

Why is it that people who do introduce magical type practices in their

approach to diagnosis and treatment seem to be never the people who have the

brights and the drive to tough it through very difficult studies that cull out

the low-wattage wannabes?

I think that I would be practicing very bad science to tell the group that these

practitioners are all hucksters. I think it is much better science to say " This

is quite amazing " and then proceed to search for a nuts and bolts understanding

of what we witnessed, and then let the chips fall where they may.

To give up the magical fantasies of childhood is for many an extremely

painful and reluctant part of growing up, while for others it their favorite

part of maturation. I do think that fantasy is necessary component of happiness

-- I could not imagine life without the movies, but I would never let someone

with a pendulum tell me what meds to take.

From: Trade Products

Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011

Subject: Re: rectal cancer markers

Bio Energetic testing did a pretty good job on mine.

They could pin point where and how far along better then the Dr's could. I felt

a pinching in one spot one time and didn't mention. Then they came back and said

it had spread to the ileo side of the ileocecal valve. I asked where that was

and they pointed to exactly where I was feeling the pinching feeling.

You can google bioenergetic testing.

January 25, 2011

Ya know, all I'm doing these days is that " magic " and cannabis oil. I feel

stronger than I have felt since dx with mets. Can't explain and don't really

care. Surely won't be dying tomorrow when I feel like this today. Health,

healing and strength are where I choose to focus my energies these days ... not

cancer. In fact, I've even decided to take my eyes off it for a while ... no

markers, no oncs. If I start feeling bad, he'll be there waiting for me. At

this point, I have had 3 more years than anyone ever expected, so it's all gravy

anyway. Guess that means I can choose whatever I like, even if some do consider

it fantasy. If this is a fantasy, I choose to stay there.

xxoo

" Gammill " <vgammill@...> wrote:

>

> Conventional Medicine is perhaps the only system of medicine that does not

> allow for some sort of bioenergy. That said, how would practitioners,

> especially the paid kind, ever be sorted such that you could separate the

> wheat from the chaff? If we go to see a stage psychic, mentalist, hypnotist

> or magician we go for amusement; we may not be sophisticated enough to know

> how they do it, but we certainly are sophisticated enough to know that there

> are real world explanations.

>

> Of the thousands of stage performers who orchestrate over millions of

> seeming miracles, are there any left who try to get away with saying that

> their magic is the real thing? The closest to this seems to be some of the

> swami types who present before a self-selected new-age type audience. I

> have seen a well-heeled audience gladly pay massive amounts of money for

> " readings. "

>

> Why is it that people who do introduce magical type practices in their

> approach to diagnosis and treatment seem to be never the people who have the

> brights and the drive to tough it through very difficult studies that cull

> out the low-wattage wannabes?

>

> I think that I would be practicing very bad science to tell the group that

> these practitioners are all hucksters. I think it is much better science to

> say " This is quite amazing " and then proceed to search for a nuts and bolts

> understanding of what we witnessed, and then let the chips fall where they

> may.

>

> To give up the magical fantasies of childhood is for many an extremely

> painful and reluctant part of growing up, while for others it their favorite

> part of maturation. I do think that fantasy is necessary component of

> happiness -- I could not imagine life without the movies, but I would never

> let someone with a pendulum tell me what meds to take.

>

January 25, 2011

Yes. Focus on reducing stress (prayer and meditation and lifestyle changes) and

building up your inner energy, power and strength. Build up your physical body

too with a high nutrient diet and mega vitamins, supplements and trace minerals.

In this way you will power up your immune system to heal and prevent disease.

Holistic healing, prevention and wellness is critical and needs to be done in

conjunction with conventional medicine.

January 26, 2011

,

All thinking is fantasy, it is just that some of this fantasy or ideation

can be replicated under very exacting standards. It then takes on the

coloration of information and becomes more useful to greater numbers of

people.

I have noticed that as you have relied more on the " healer " types of

therapists you have become less worried and less fearful. This seems to be

part of a psychological pattern of people who do very well at fighting

cancer. I, too, occupy that same life raft as you in that I never get

particularly worried or fearful. We just clambered aboard from different

sides.

_____

From: [mailto: ] On

Behalf Of melizzard11

Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 12:02 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Bioenergetic testing

Ya know, all I'm doing these days is that " magic " and cannabis oil. I feel

stronger than I have felt since dx with mets. Can't explain and don't really

care. Surely won't be dying tomorrow when I feel like this today. Health,

healing and strength are where I choose to focus my energies these days ...

not cancer. In fact, I've even decided to take my eyes off it for a while

.... no markers, no oncs. If I start feeling bad, he'll be there waiting for

me. At this point, I have had 3 more years than anyone ever expected, so

it's all gravy anyway. Guess that means I can choose whatever I like, even

if some do consider it fantasy. If this is a fantasy, I choose to stay

there.

xxoo

January 26, 2011

Greetings,

The power of the mind is incredible, looks like you have tapped into it.

Bright Blessings,

Garth & Kim

www.TheRoseColoredForest.com

Bedias, Texas

936-395-0110

On 1/25/2011 2:01 PM, melizzard11 wrote:

> Ya know, all I'm doing these days is that " magic " and cannabis oil.

January 26, 2011

Any suggestions on which vitamins and minerals to buy ?

From: " mike goldberg "

Date: Tue, Jan 25, 2011 5:04 pm

Subject: [ ] Re: Bioenergetic testing

Yes. Focus on reducing stress (prayer and meditation and lifestyle changes) and

building up your inner energy, power and strength. Build up your physical body

too with a high nutrient diet and mega vitamins, supplements and trace minerals.

In this way you will power up your immune system to heal and prevent disease.

Holistic healing, prevention and wellness is critical and needs to be done in

conjunction with conventional medicine.

January 26, 2011

The power of the mind is very powerful, great book

to read is The Biology Of Belief

From: Garth & Kim

Sent: Wed, January 26, 2011

Greetings,

The power of the mind is incredible, looks like you have tapped into it.

January 26, 2011

I believe that stress is the main reason people get Cancer in the first place.

I have read many many times from some of the top cancer doctors in the

world that at least 80 % is caused by stress.

Your Health Crusader

________________________________

From: Gammill