Re: $100 to anyone that knows the answer :P

July 27, 2003

LOL Tina, what's he been doing? If he's recently started on Prozac or increased

the dose, any behavior that started or intensified since that time may indeed be

due to the Prozac.

Ex when my daughter tried Prozac, back when she was a young 5 yo and shortly

after OCD started, she was suddenly very hyper and dangerously impulsive. Being

energetic and impulsive is pretty common in kids this age, BUT there was such an

obvious increase in this since starting the Prozac that I felt sure the med was

causing it. We took her off the Prozac after a three-month trial due to this

and other awful side effects and the hyper/impulsive went away to a large

degree.

Are his OCD/TS symptoms well-treated and stable? If so, you could sort of cross

this off the list as a major player in his behavior. If not, maybe he needs

further treatment, CBT/ERP or a change or augment to his meds. Risperdal is

nice LOL.

If the meds are right and the OCD/TS low, then behavior you are left with is

teen stuff! See, simple deductive reasoning!

Do I win the $100?? :-)

Kathy R. in Indiana

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From: Tina - AffordableHOST.com

I am pulling my hair out trying to figure out, in my 13 yr old son, the

difference between:

1. His OCD/Tourette's symptoms

2. Prozac side-effects

3. Normal teenage 'crazy' behavior

4. Something completely unrelated to #1 - 3, but still causing to drive

me up the wall!

Seriously, a parent could end up with a splitting headache trying to sort

all this out.

--Tina

July 27, 2003

LOL, I don't know the answer, but I have lived the question! Does

that qualify?

The bottom line is, we all have to live together and it's not fair to

suffer a headache trying to figure the differences out.

Our son is now 19 and it has been a long haul dealing with all of his

challenges. I read the article that was posted by and it

stresses how the only behavior we can change is our own. When I had

that revelation a few years back it really helped me. I started doing

more things for myself and letting everyone else see that I was not

going to get upset about someone elses behavior. I found that I was

not helping the situations in my behavioral responces to the

situation. That did not makes the situation any better, just more

tolerable for me.

Good luck in finding someone to give the $100.00 to! Your post was

worth the laugh.

Vivian in Wa ST

> I am pulling my hair out trying to figure out, in my 13 yr old

son, the

> difference between:

>

> 1. His OCD/Tourette's symptoms

> 2. Prozac side-effects

> 3. Normal teenage 'crazy' behavior

> 4. Something completely unrelated to #1 - 3, but still causing

to drive

> me up the wall!

>

> Seriously, a parent could end up with a splitting headache trying

to sort

> all this out.

>

> --Tina

July 27, 2003

> LOL Tina, what's he been doing? If he's recently started on Prozac or

increased the dose, any behavior that started or intensified since that time

may indeed be due to the Prozac.

Well, he's been on Prozac for about a year. I just recently, by reading

this group, saw that Prozac causes impulsive behavior. will do things,

like suddenly become intolerant of everyone and yell and storm off, that

seem to come out of no where. He's almost always sensitive to other people

and tries to work things out with others...so I am not sure why he does

this. There are also other 'outburst' type things that just don't quite fit

with his personality, that I don't understand.

> Are his OCD/TS symptoms well-treated and stable?

His former doctor has had him on Prozac for a year (since he was diagnosed).

About 6 months ago, they tried him on Guafancine (sp?) for his tics, but it

gave him severe headaches. Not good, so we took him off it after about 4

days. His new doctor JUST prescribed Clonidine 0.1 mg at bedtime. He's

taken it last night and night before last, so far. Its so hard to know if

his symptoms are in a quiet mode right now, or if the Clonidine is actually

working!

> If so, you could sort of cross this off the list as a major player in his

behavior. If not, maybe he needs further treatment,

We have 3 kids and no health insurance (over $1200 in meds and docs this

month!)...my budget is about at its 'treatment' limit, right now. lol

My husband just took on an extra job (VERY part time) because they offer

health insurance, even for part-timers. Our coverage starts in about 3

weeks. This is going to be a God send for us.

> If the meds are right and the OCD/TS low, then behavior you are left with

is teen stuff! See, simple deductive reasoning!

There is NOTHING simple about OCD/TS/TEENS

> Do I win the $100?? :-)

Hey, if you *REALLY* had the absolute answer...you could write a book and

become insanely rich without my $100!!! lol

Seriously, good advice and I do thank you. :-)

--Tina

July 27, 2003

HI Tina

I kinda know what you mean, but my son is much younger.lol. But when you figure

it out can you let me know too. : lol. Good luck

Janet

" Tina - AffordableHOST.com " wrote:

I am pulling my hair out trying to figure out, in my 13 yr old son, the

difference between:

1. His OCD/Tourette's symptoms

2. Prozac side-effects

3. Normal teenage 'crazy' behavior

4. Something completely unrelated to #1 - 3, but still causing to drive

me up the wall!

Seriously, a parent could end up with a splitting headache trying to sort

all this out.

--Tina

July 27, 2003

OK, here's my 2-cents on this regarding telling the difference

between " normal " teenage craziness and other ( & of course this

doesn't apply to all kids) in some situations:

If the reaction is one of these " I hate you, you're mean, I hate my

life, I can't wait to grow up and move out, you're unfair, you always

take his/her side, I never get my way.... " and maybe a stomping off

or a fist against the wall, a slammed door - that's normal. And can

happen at any time anyone gets on their nerves or they don't get

their way. Plus it can start being where they want to be " alone " as

they just want time to themselves (moodiness) and don't like their

family so much anymore, will go to other rooms to get away from them,

family is embarrassing, uncool, stricter, doesn't understand

him/her....

I suppose if you throw in a few other problems like ADHD, OCD or

something where stress can aggravate this, then the explosions can be

even worse! But not necessarily related to a problem at that moment

with ADHD or OCD, etc.

I know puberty can definitely make anger worse with a typical kid.

Oh and don't forget the " nothing bad will ever happen to me "

stupidity we can all get at that age!

The above just came to mind, am I the only one to go thru any of

that? And it has nothing to do with OCD!!

> I am pulling my hair out trying to figure out, in my 13 yr old

son, the

> difference between:

>

> 1. His OCD/Tourette's symptoms

> 2. Prozac side-effects

> 3. Normal teenage 'crazy' behavior

> 4. Something completely unrelated to #1 - 3, but still causing

to drive

> me up the wall!

>

> Seriously, a parent could end up with a splitting headache trying

to sort

> all this out.

>

> --Tina

July 27, 2003

L.O.L.-Ha Ha- We can all relate to that! We had to take the door off of my

daughter`s room before she broke something slamming it!!!And I`m talking about

my highly successful 22yo when she was 13!Of course `s door is off right

now......hmmmm...she`s 14,so I guess she`s a late bloomer??!! Good luck-Sue

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