Guest guest Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 I think if we all keep sprouting and breathing kindness we will all have a shot at growing old and being healthy n Gray, middle aged, and sprouting. Dr. Rollings NJ Licensed Psychologist #4686 www.DrnRollings.com Sent from my iPad > Goodbye, then! When you get to 65, you can email me about your memory > issues (or not), and boundary issues - LOL. Or the lessons you might have > learned in judging your fellowmen. You have no experience of me personally > to know whether I'm lazy or selfish. You are making those judgments based > on projections of yourself. If you did X, then you would be Y or Z. > When you know me personally, then, you can make that decision. > > Take care, > > Pam > > > > >Or not willing to. How hard is it to remember to trim a post? I doubt your > >memory is really that poor. Lazy, perhaps. Selfish, definitely. > > > > > > > >And, one should not have to go to the group page to do a „search‰ to > >overcome the lazy unkindness of chatty list controllers who will not stay > >on > >topic or change the subject line to suit. That is pure selfishness in > >spades. > > > > > > > >This list truly is not worth the tolerance of spoiled children. I think > >reasonable adults need to leave the playground to the brats. I for one, > >intend to. You have all failed miserably in providing sufficient benefit > >to > >outweigh the annoyance level. > > > > > > > >Tina > > > > > > > >From: sproutpeople [mailto:sproutpeople ] > >On > >Behalf Of Pam Gotcher > >Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 8:08 PM > >To: sproutpeople > >Subject: Re: Please trim your posts! > > > > > > > > > > > >No, Tina, I don't find the poster requesting kindness. If that were the > >case, my response would be different. > > > >There's more of a judgment and control issue here, and I think that until > >people are willing to determine what their boundaries are, and what their > >responsibilities are, then we will continue to have this issue. > > > >At one time I requested that people reflect changes in the thread in the > >subject area of their posts when a thread drifted. The response was a > >suggestion on how I could make the mac search function work for me (for > >which I was grateful). > > > >It's not arrogance, nor selfishness. It's an acknowledgement of human > >nature. At 65, I'm not going to remember to trim my posts – and there are > >others who will not. The person who wishes the rest of us to change (or > >feel guilty about not following their request) - needs to look at what > >they > >can do to make the forum work for them, without trying to change others > >who > >may not be able to change. > > > >Pam > > > >From: Tina Paxton <Frecs@... <mailto:Frecs%40atmc.net> > > >Reply-To: <sproutpeople > ><mailto:sproutpeople%40yahoogroups.com> > > >Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 19:34:11 -0400 > >To: <sproutpeople <mailto:sproutpeople%40yahoogroups.com> > >> > >Subject: RE: Please trim your posts! > > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Up to now, I have kept out of this repeated‹ad nauseum‹argument. But, I > >feel > >> the need to speak my mind. I do so as a LONG time email group > >>participant. > >> > >> Is it netiquette to trim one’s posts? My personal opinion is, yes. Just > >>as > >it > >> is netiquette not to YELL AT PEOPLE (because it makes reading a response > >> difficult), I think it is polite manners to trim one’s post leaving just > >> enough of the post you are responding to for the reader to have context > >>to > >> your answer. Polite social behaviors are sociologically important even > >>in > >the > >> cyber society. And, think of it this way‹simply trimming your posts take > >much > >> less energy than these continued arguments. > >> > >> Is it required for folks on this particular list to trim their posts? > >> Unfortunately, no. Nor is it required that the subject line be changed > >when > >> the conversation turns in a new direction. The poor reader must simply > >suffer > >> through opening each email to determine if they wish to read it. All > >>quite > >> annoying and ill-mannered but one must either bear it or leave the > >>group. > >> Considering the low percentage of usable information posted to this > >>group, > >one > >> might desire to ask oneself if it is worth staying. I ask myself that > >question > >> frequently. Mostly I stay because the personalities are amusing > >>(laughter > >is > >> good medicine) and I’m too busy to go to the group page to unsub‹. > >>Perhaps > >the > >> problem is simply that there is not much to say about sprouting‹or > >>because > >a > >> few personalities have hijacked the list and demand their own way about > >> things‹or because selfishness is the American Way now, unfortunately. > >> > >> I read often when these arguments come up how it is the problem of the > >> complainer who is being terribly selfish to request kindness from the > >group. > >> That attitude I find‹distasteful and arrogant and obnoxious to be > >>honest. > >> > >> To the complainers may I make a suggestion? Either unsub, tolerate, or > >find a > >> way to be as annoying as the ones annoying you‹.it seems that childishly > >> selfish behavior is as much a feature of this list as trimming one’s > >>posts > >is > >> on all the other lists so when in Rome‹. > >> > >> Okay, I’ve said my bit‹.and, quite un-Southern-Lady about it, I will > >>make > >no > >> apology for my seeming rudeness‹just trying to do as they do in Rome‹ > >> > >> Tina (stepping off the soapbox and putting on my fire-retardant suit) > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 Hi Lorri, My aerogarden has been growing the same herbs for 6 months now! Back in March, I bought some mints, cilantro, and I forget what else, thinking that it should need to be replanted soon. But it hasn't!. so I am afraid I am no help at the moment. Everyday I cut a bunch of herbs off the plants and it seems to never end. Good problem for me to have, I know. My husband has an aerogarden with tomatoes and he showed me it all ready has a few tomatoes. he is really excited about it. Our CSA will start next week-I almost feel guilty having not labored and grown the stuff myself. I have got to get to that fenugreek tonight and get some soaking! It is so good and keeps so well. I hope you enjoy a peaceful Monday off Lorri n Dr. Rollings NJ Licensed Psychologist #4686 www.DrnRollings.com Sent from my iPad > > > > > > > Can we all please return to sprouting. > > Wishing all a peaceful weekend, > > n > > Who has a craving for some fenugreek sprouts > > > > Dr. Rollings > > > Fenugreek is the best in my opinion. I realized the other day that 50% > of the sprouts I make are fenugreek. > > On a side note...question n...my planting of herbs in my Aero > garden are just about played out. Have you tried any of the others ? > Lettuce for example. I want to order my next set and am unsure if I want > more herbs or to try a lettuce blend , maybe with some of the new lettuces. > > Its sure nice knowing I have another day before going back to work. > > Lorri in NH > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 Amen to that n White haired,middle aged only if I'll live to be 114 and should have something soaking to sprout...but I've run out of steam today Jane > I think if we all keep sprouting and breathing kindness we will all > have a shot at growing old and being healthy > n > Gray, middle aged, and sprouting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 But I'm on several email lists and I own 4 and this is just considered as each person needs to do what works for their situation. There are good and bad doing each way. You need to choose what's best for you. Beverly Texas Re: Please trim your posts! I have no intention of trimming my posts. Live with it. If you're on Digest, this is NOT the way this forum will work for you most effectively. Rather than asking all of US to make changes for you, YOU make changes for you. Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 But I'm on over 50 and own 4 and it is just okay. Should I ask everyone to stop posting so much because I am on individal emals and don't want too many? Beverly Texas Re: Please trim your posts! To: sproutpeople Date: Sunday, May 29, 2011, 6:00 PM LOL, and by defining it as " an internet etiquette " - it sure looks like you're trying to guilt people into behaviors that they may or may not be willing to do. Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 Hi Lorri, I'm not n, but I purchased the LadyBug 3 AeroGarden in March with the lettuce seed garden. I had pretty much no success with it. The lettuce was limp and did not grow well at all, and I was very faithful with the water and nutrients. When I took pictures of the dismal result and sent it to AG Customer Service, they said that I should look in the forum to see what others had to say. Not helpful. I kept on trying (i.e., letting it grow), and it got worse. Now I have more pictures to send them that show all of the seed pods apparently empty of seed with brown stringy things laying on top of the deck. I did read that the lettuce in that blend needs a fan blowing on it to stiffen it up some so you get the familiar lettuce crunch. I'm ordering the grow pods and planting my own seeds next time. I have some beautiful heirloom seeds I'm wanting to start. The romaine mix might give you better results, but I wouldn't go with the others unless you love limp lettuce. Just MO. HTH, Peggy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 > > Hi Lorri, > > I'm not n, but I purchased the LadyBug 3 AeroGarden in March with > the lettuce seed garden. I had pretty much no success with it. The > lettuce was limp and did not grow well at all, and I was very faithful > with the water and nutrients. When I took pictures of the dismal > result and sent it to AG Customer Service, they said that I should > look in the forum to see what others had to say. Not helpful. > > I kept on trying (i.e., letting it grow), and it got worse. Now I have > more pictures to send them that show all of the seed pods apparently > empty of seed with brown stringy things laying on top of the deck. I > did read that the lettuce in that blend needs a fan blowing on it to > stiffen it up some so you get the familiar lettuce crunch. I'm > ordering the grow pods and planting my own seeds next time. I have > some beautiful heirloom seeds I'm wanting to start. > > The romaine mix might give you better results, but I wouldn't go with > the others unless you love limp lettuce. > > Just MO. > > HTH, > Peggy > Thank you Peggy, I like hearing real peoples personal experiences. Its a shame that its not working well for you. I have a larger Aerogarden and the herb mix I have been growing is wonderful. I cannot even keep up with the growth and have had to trim and dry to keep up with it. Maybe you can get them to give you herbs instead of replacing with lettuce pods. I can particularly recommend the basil and dill. My CSA will be starting this coming week which will probably give me enough lettuce so maybe I will stick with herbs as I know they work. I hope they do something for you as in giving you some other pods to grow. I would hate to think they don't stand by their product and support their customers. I am very curious about using my own seed and hope you post and let us know how that goes. Thank you again.. Lorri in NH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 I've used my own seeds to grow lettuce and herbs and it worked very well. I have 2 units which I've temporarily put in storage as I don't eat that many herbs, and the units don't produce lettuce quickly enough. I'm also in a small apt and the units are very bright.They would be ideal if you had a spare growing room or basement.In general though, they are great units and do what they say they do very well. Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Virgin Mobile. Re: Please trim your posts! > > Hi Lorri, > > I'm not n, but I purchased the LadyBug 3 AeroGarden in March with > the lettuce seed garden. I had pretty much no success with it. The > lettuce was limp and did not grow well at all, and I was very faithful > with the water and nutrients. When I took pictures of the dismal > result and sent it to AG Customer Service, they said that I should > look in the forum to see what others had to say. Not helpful. > > I kept on trying (i.e., letting it grow), and it got worse. Now I have > more pictures to send them that show all of the seed pods apparently > empty of seed with brown stringy things laying on top of the deck. I > did read that the lettuce in that blend needs a fan blowing on it to > stiffen it up some so you get the familiar lettuce crunch. I'm > ordering the grow pods and planting my own seeds next time. I have > some beautiful heirloom seeds I'm wanting to start. > > The romaine mix might give you better results, but I wouldn't go with > the others unless you love limp lettuce. > > Just MO. > > HTH, > Peggy > Thank you Peggy, I like hearing real peoples personal experiences. Its a shame that its not working well for you. I have a larger Aerogarden and the herb mix I have been growing is wonderful. I cannot even keep up with the growth and have had to trim and dry to keep up with it. Maybe you can get them to give you herbs instead of replacing with lettuce pods. I can particularly recommend the basil and dill. My CSA will be starting this coming week which will probably give me enough lettuce so maybe I will stick with herbs as I know they work. I hope they do something for you as in giving you some other pods to grow. I would hate to think they don't stand by their product and support their customers. I am very curious about using my own seed and hope you post and let us know how that goes. Thank you again.. Lorri in NH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 > I've used my own seeds to grow lettuce and herbs and it worked very well. I have 2 units which I've temporarily put in storage as I don't eat that many herbs, and the units don't produce lettuce quickly enough. I'm also in a small apt and the units are very bright.They would be ideal if you had a spare growing room or basement.In general though, they are great units and do what they say they do very well. > > Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Virgin Mobile. > > > Thanks , I don't think it would keep up with my lettuce consumption either...about 7 to 10 heads a week.lol Unfortunately no spare room here either which is why I have restrained myself and have only one for the time being. Sounds like sticking to herbs is the way to go. Lorri in NH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 Hi , I was so surprised (and continue to be) at the amount of herbs the aerogarden produces. Between sprouts, juices, and herbs, there is an unbelieveable amount of fresh food in the house. Fortunately my flock of birds eat it all too. Nothing funnier to me than a parrot sipping juice. n > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 Thanks for your nice reply, Lorri.  I may have been on the line with a new or not-very-motivated customer service rep. I don't plan to judge the company based on that one experience. But I'm hoping to have the pods replaced - and if they will only replace them with the same type, I'll try again to grow that. I do hope they will let me exchange for the herbs, though. I especially love basil and had quite a bunch growing in one of my Earth Boxes last year. I do love to make bruschetta with fresh tomatoes and basil!!  I will definitely keep you posted on how well I do with some of my own seeds. They are precious and I don't want to waste them! I may start with the organic stevia seeds I have. I only got a dozen, so I need to be very prudent about how I'm going to grow them. Hoping to have enough for my iced tea this summer (although I really enjoy tea, I often use it as an excuse to drink sweet water - I must have some southern genes from somewhere!)  Thanks for your nice note! Peggy To: sproutpeople Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 4:36 AM Subject: Re: Please trim your posts!  > > Hi Lorri, > > I'm not n, but I purchased the LadyBug 3 AeroGarden in March with > the lettuce seed garden. I had pretty much no success with it. The > lettuce was limp and did not grow well at all, and I was very faithful > with the water and nutrients. When I took pictures of the dismal > result and sent it to AG Customer Service, they said that I should > look in the forum to see what others had to say. Not helpful. > > I kept on trying (i.e., letting it grow), and it got worse. Now I have > more pictures to send them that show all of the seed pods apparently > empty of seed with brown stringy things laying on top of the deck. I > did read that the lettuce in that blend needs a fan blowing on it to > stiffen it up some so you get the familiar lettuce crunch. I'm > ordering the grow pods and planting my own seeds next time. I have > some beautiful heirloom seeds I'm wanting to start. > > The romaine mix might give you better results, but I wouldn't go with > the others unless you love limp lettuce. > > Just MO. > > HTH, > Peggy > Thank you Peggy, I like hearing real peoples personal experiences. Its a shame that its not working well for you. I have a larger Aerogarden and the herb mix I have been growing is wonderful. I cannot even keep up with the growth and have had to trim and dry to keep up with it. Maybe you can get them to give you herbs instead of replacing with lettuce pods. I can particularly recommend the basil and dill. My CSA will be starting this coming week which will probably give me enough lettuce so maybe I will stick with herbs as I know they work. I hope they do something for you as in giving you some other pods to grow. I would hate to think they don't stand by their product and support their customers. I am very curious about using my own seed and hope you post and let us know how that goes. Thank you again.. Lorri in NH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 Thanks, . I will persevere for awhile and see how it goes. I love the concept - just didn't find it as wonderful as it looked. Good to know you've had success. Maybe the secret is to grow your own seeds? Peggy To: sproutpeople Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 7:20 AM Subject: Re: Please trim your posts! I've used my own seeds to grow lettuce and herbs and it worked very well. I have 2 units which I've temporarily put in storage as I don't eat that many herbs, and the units don't produce lettuce quickly enough. I'm also in a small apt and the units are very bright.They would be ideal if you had a spare growing room or basement.In general though, they are great units and do what they say they do very well. Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Virgin Mobile. Re: Please trim your posts! > > Hi Lorri, > > I'm not n, but I purchased the LadyBug 3 AeroGarden in March with > the lettuce seed garden. I had pretty much no success with it. The > lettuce was limp and did not grow well at all, and I was very faithful > with the water and nutrients. When I took pictures of the dismal > result and sent it to AG Customer Service, they said that I should > look in the forum to see what others had to say. Not helpful. > > I kept on trying (i.e., letting it grow), and it got worse. Now I have > more pictures to send them that show all of the seed pods apparently > empty of seed with brown stringy things laying on top of the deck. I > did read that the lettuce in that blend needs a fan blowing on it to > stiffen it up some so you get the familiar lettuce crunch. I'm > ordering the grow pods and planting my own seeds next time. I have > some beautiful heirloom seeds I'm wanting to start. > > The romaine mix might give you better results, but I wouldn't go with > the others unless you love limp lettuce. > > Just MO. > > HTH, > Peggy > Thank you Peggy, I like hearing real peoples personal experiences. Its a shame that its not working well for you. I have a larger Aerogarden and the herb mix I have been growing is wonderful. I cannot even keep up with the growth and have had to trim and dry to keep up with it. Maybe you can get them to give you herbs instead of replacing with lettuce pods. I can particularly recommend the basil and dill. My CSA will be starting this coming week which will probably give me enough lettuce so maybe I will stick with herbs as I know they work. I hope they do something for you as in giving you some other pods to grow. I would hate to think they don't stand by their product and support their customers. I am very curious about using my own seed and hope you post and let us know how that goes. Thank you again.. Lorri in NH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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