Re: A few more facts about autism and mercury

[Guest guest]

I have no motive. I was un-nerved due to your tone and how you talked down to

people who had enough time and interest to read your info. Seems like you might

have some wise info, but who would think twice about using it with your

egocentric attitude. I was put off but your first email. Perhaps you

scientific study skills far exceed your communication skills!

--- Original Message ---

Sent: March 23, 2012 3/23/12

To: autism-aspergers

Subject: A few more facts about autism and mercury

 

Here is what I " know " about mercury and aluminum causing brain damage.  On

autopsy, either persons with autism or Alzheimer  show toxic amounts of these

minerals.  In the case of autism, the actual " damage " seems to be a continued

loss of inability to manufacture glutathione, and a similar effect on the brain

as Alzheimer, except that the brain has never " learned " from living, so is much

more handicapped. 

 There is a a lot of conflicting so-called research on this.  Remember that

Big Pharma is trying to defend itself against hundreds or thousands of law

suits, and a lot of MD's as well, so the more that Big Pharma can confuse a jury

or court, the better for them.  That's their motive.  Never trust anyone with

a vested interest is a motto I've tried to follow. 

Now, let's look at my motive.  I make no money whatsoever by that part of my 4

part therapy.  I advocate using ascorbic acid vitamin C, and I don't make a

penny from it.  Nor, do I sell glutathione which is expensive.  

Yes, I do make money, but only from my invented therapy Neuroliminal Training. 

That is an affordable alternative to Neurofeedback at a fraction of that

cost.   It obviously works, or I couldn't guarantee it.  To my knowledge no

NFB clinic can guarantee success.  My return on that guarantee is less than 1

percent, and part of that may be due to poor usage. 

The other two parts of my 4 part therapy are getting better nutrition and

digestion as both are  desperately needed.  The stress of allergies caused by

the autism (Leaky Gut Syndrome) is slowly solved by NT, but it takes time.  The

digestion system is perhaps one third of the immune system. 

I make nothing from either of these, but obviously they are important to solving

the riddle of autism. 

I thank the many people who have  " defended " me, and pointed some of these

facts out.  I thank Keven, the moderator who is open minded enough to allow me

to post on here.  Here's my question to the ones who question my motives, and

those who have never even looked at my 4 part free article on solving autism -

what's your motive? 

[Guest guest]

Okay I going to add my two cents worth. Back up 30+ years ago, my daughter was a happy, healthy pre-schooler. The one day she was a sickly mess, no longer feeding herself, no longer talking, no longer doing anything. We saw a story on one of the networks about the Yeast connection to autism found us a doctor (MD) that was saying what Phil Bates is saying. While it did not cure my daughter to this day I still say it improved the quality of her life and maybe saved it too. We may be loosing the link to autism because there is a genetic mutation in her form of autism she has but I have never regretted following this. Vitamin C does help with BM's Judy Friesner Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerrySender: autism-aspergers Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 06:55:38 -0400To: <autism-aspergers >ReplyTo: autism-aspergers Subject: A few more facts about autism and mercury Here is what I " know " about mercury and aluminum causing brain damage.  On autopsy, either persons with autism or Alzheimer  show toxic amounts of these minerals.  In the case of autism, the actual " damage " seems to be a continued loss of inability to manufacture glutathione, and a similar effect on the brain as Alzheimer, except that the brain has never " learned " from living, so is much more handicapped.   There is a a lot of conflicting so-called research on this.  Remember that Big Pharma is trying to defend itself against hundreds or thousands of law suits, and a lot of MD's as well, so the more that Big Pharma can confuse a jury or court, the better for them.  That's their motive.  Never trust anyone with a vested interest is a motto I've tried to follow.  Now, let's look at my motive.  I make no money whatsoever by that part of my 4 part therapy.  I advocate using ascorbic acid vitamin C, and I don't make a penny from it.  Nor, do I sell glutathione which is expensive.   Yes, I do make money, but only from my invented therapy Neuroliminal Training.  That is an affordable alternative to Neurofeedback at a fraction of that cost.   It obviously works, or I couldn't guarantee it.  To my knowledge no NFB clinic can guarantee success.  My return on that guarantee is less than 1 percent, and part of that may be due to poor usage.  The other two parts of my 4 part therapy are getting better nutrition and digestion as both are  desperately needed.  The stress of allergies caused by the autism (Leaky Gut Syndrome) is slowly solved by NT, but it takes time.  The digestion system is perhaps one third of the immune system.  I make nothing from either of these, but obviously they are important to solving the riddle of autism.  I thank the many people who have  " defended " me, and pointed some of these facts out.  I thank Keven, the moderator who is open minded enough to allow me to post on here.  Here's my question to the ones who question my motives, and those who have never even looked at my 4 part free article on solving autism - what's your motive? 

[Guest guest]

If you hang around scientists long enough - or many in the

university world - you will come to understand that academic skills

often far exceed communication skills, especially if we are forced

to communicate in non-academic speech.  Perhaps it has something to

do with the number of academics who have some form of autism

[who still has not finished his PhD thesis due for subission

last March, then in November, now sometime this year, or, if the

worst comes to the worst, by October, 2014.  I blame AS/ADD for this

also.  I have learnt something from my son ]

 

I have no motive. I was un-nerved due to your tone and

how you talked down to people who had enough time and

interest to read your info. Seems like you might have some

wise info, but who would think twice about using it with

your egocentric attitude. I was put off but your first

email. Perhaps you scientific study skills far exceed your

communication skills!

--- Original Message ---

Sent: March 23, 2012 3/23/12

To: autism-aspergers

Subject: A few more facts about autism

and mercury

 

Here is what I "know" about mercury and aluminum causing

brain damage.  On autopsy, either persons with autism or

Alzheimer  show toxic amounts of these minerals.  In the

case of autism, the actual "damage" seems to be a

continued loss of inability to manufacture glutathione,

and a similar effect on the brain as Alzheimer, except

that the brain has never "learned" from living, so is much

more handicapped. 

 There is a a lot of conflicting so-called research on

this.  Remember that Big Pharma is trying to defend itself

against hundreds or thousands of law suits, and a lot of

MD's as well, so the more that Big Pharma can confuse a

jury or court, the better for them.  That's their motive. 

Never trust anyone with a vested interest is a motto I've

tried to follow. 

Now, let's look at my motive.  I make no money whatsoever

by that part of my 4 part therapy.  I advocate using

ascorbic acid vitamin C, and I don't make a penny from

it.  Nor, do I sell glutathione which is expensive.  

Yes, I do make money, but only from my invented therapy

Neuroliminal Training.  That is an affordable alternative

to Neurofeedback at a fraction of that cost.   It

obviously works, or I couldn't guarantee it.  To my

knowledge no NFB clinic can guarantee success.  My return

on that guarantee is less than 1 percent, and part of that

may be due to poor usage. 

The other two parts of my 4 part therapy are getting

better nutrition and digestion as both are  desperately

needed.  The stress of allergies caused by the autism

(Leaky Gut Syndrome) is slowly solved by NT, but it takes

time.  The digestion system is perhaps one third of the

immune system. 

I make nothing from either of these, but obviously they

are important to solving the riddle of autism. 

I thank the many people who have  "defended" me, and

pointed some of these facts out.  I thank Keven, the

moderator who is open minded enough to allow me to post on

here.  Here's my question to the ones who question my

motives, and those who have never even looked at my 4 part

free article on solving autism - what's your motive? 

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[Guest guest]

I think one of the problems is that there is rarely just one

problem.  My Dr explained some of it to me, but I get lost in the

scientific terminology.  I can handle a couple of dialects of

anthropological jargon, but neuroscience is a foreign language to

me.  Apparently the solution (which interests me more than the

causes) is to treat the growth of yeast, and other imbalances, and

also restore the functioning of the body with supplements and diet. 

He isn't sure it results in a cure, and neither am I, but an

improvement is a good starting place.  I feel better, and have lost

5k in weight, after 2 months.  My concentration has improved,

although it still isn't good, but I was told it would take up to 6

months to see a marked improvement.  It isn't cheap, but I would

rather pay a few $00 a month for a year or two to get to a

sustainable level than pay the same amount for medication I will

have to take forever.  I'm 50 this year, so forever is nowhere near

as long as it used to be, but it's still a lot longer than 2 years. 

I am withholding my final judgement until I see how I feel after 2

years.

 

Okay I going to add my two cents worth. Back up 30+ years

ago, my daughter was a happy, healthy pre-schooler. The

one day she was a sickly mess, no longer feeding herself,

no longer talking, no longer doing anything. We saw a

story on one of the networks about the Yeast connection to

autism found us a doctor (MD) that was saying what Phil

Bates is saying. While it did not cure my daughter to this

day I still say it improved the quality of her life and

maybe saved it too.

We may be loosing the link to autism because there is a

genetic mutation in her form of autism she has but I have

never regretted following this. Vitamin C does help with

BM's

Judy Friesner

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

From: Phil Bate PhD

Sender: autism-aspergers

Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 06:55:38 -0400

To: <autism-aspergers >

ReplyTo: autism-aspergers

Subject: A few more facts

about autism and mercury

 

Here is what I "know" about mercury and aluminum

causing brain damage.� On autopsy, either persons with

autism or Alzheimer� show toxic amounts of these

minerals.� In the case of autism, the actual "damage"

seems to be a continued loss of inability to manufacture

glutathione, and a similar effect on the brain as

Alzheimer, except that the brain has never "learned"

from living, so is much more handicapped.�

�There is a a lot of conflicting so-called research on

this.� Remember that Big Pharma is trying to defend

itself against hundreds or thousands of law suits, and a

lot of MD's as well, so the more that Big Pharma can

confuse a jury or court, the better for them.� That's

their motive.� Never trust anyone with a vested interest

is a motto I've tried to follow.�

Now, let's look at my motive.� I make no money

whatsoever by that part of my 4 part therapy.� I

advocate using ascorbic acid vitamin C, and I don't make

a penny from it.� Nor, do I sell glutathione which is

expensive.��

Yes, I do make money, but only from my invented therapy

Neuroliminal Training.� That is an affordable

alternative to Neurofeedback at a fraction of that

cost.�� It obviously works, or I couldn't guarantee it.�

To my knowledge no NFB clinic can guarantee success.� My

return on that guarantee is less than 1 percent, and

part of that may be due to poor usage.�

The other two parts of my 4 part therapy are getting

better nutrition and digestion as both are� desperately

needed.� The stress of allergies caused by the autism

(Leaky Gut Syndrome) is slowly solved by NT, but it

takes time.� The digestion system is perhaps one third

of the immune system.�

I make nothing from either of these, but obviously they

are important to solving the riddle of autism.�

I thank the many people who have� "defended" me, and

pointed some of these facts out.� I thank Keven, the

moderator who is open minded enough to allow me to post

on here.� Here's my question to the ones who question my

motives, and those who have never even looked at my 4

part free article on solving autism - what's your

motive?�

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[Guest guest]

" Here's my question to the ones who question my motives, and those who have

never even looked at my 4 part free article on solving autism - what's your

motive? "

Personally, I have looked at your website in-depth. It's very interesting and

informative. As someone who prefers to go the holistic/natural route, I

appreciate your perspective, and am definitely including the info you provide in

my overall research.

But if everyone who has a service, product, or protocol for Asperger's/Autism to

promote (valid, or not) did so, this forum would quickly become useless. Most

people do not do this. Many groups have a specific policy against it.

So my motive is that I hope to help parents who come here in desperation,

looking for a parent forum, and who are unprepared to have specific products

promoted to them as the one and only solution to every problem. I don't think

it's fair.

>

> Here is what I " know " about mercury and aluminum causing brain damage. On

> autopsy, either persons with autism or Alzheimer show toxic amounts of

> these minerals. In the case of autism, the actual " damage " seems to be a

> continued loss of inability to manufacture glutathione, and a similar

> effect on the brain as Alzheimer, except that the brain has never " learned "

> from living, so is much more handicapped.

>

> There is a a lot of conflicting so-called research on this. Remember that

> Big Pharma is trying to defend itself against hundreds or thousands of law

> suits, and a lot of MD's as well, so the more that Big Pharma can confuse a

> jury or court, the better for them. That's their motive. Never trust

> anyone with a vested interest is a motto I've tried to follow.

>

> Now, let's look at my motive. I make no money whatsoever by that part of

> my 4 part therapy. I advocate using ascorbic acid vitamin C, and I don't

> make a penny from it. Nor, do I sell glutathione which is expensive.

>

> Yes, I do make money, but only from my invented therapy Neuroliminal

> Training. That is an affordable alternative to Neurofeedback at a fraction

> of that cost. It obviously works, or I couldn't guarantee it. To my

> knowledge no NFB clinic can guarantee success. My return on that guarantee

> is less than 1 percent, and part of that may be due to poor usage.

>

> The other two parts of my 4 part therapy are getting better nutrition and

> digestion as both are desperately needed. The stress of allergies caused

> by the autism (Leaky Gut Syndrome) is slowly solved by NT, but it takes

> time. The digestion system is perhaps one third of the immune system.

> I make nothing from either of these, but obviously they are important to

> solving the riddle of autism.

>

> I thank the many people who have " defended " me, and pointed some of these

> facts out. I thank Keven, the moderator who is open minded enough to allow

> me to post on here. Here's my question to the ones who question my

> motives, and those who have never even looked at my 4 part free article on

> solving autism - what's your motive?

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Here's my question to the ones who question my

> motives, and those who have never even looked at my 4 part free article on

> solving autism - what's your motive?

>

And again, we see that anyone who dares question the great OZ is accused of

having a " motive " of some sort. My " motive " is to identify attempts to silence

dissent and ill manners when I see them. Someone who actually has a quality

product or information to share should be able to do so by generating positive

word of mouth, not trying to belittle or shout down anyone who disagrees.

[Guest guest]

I’ve been reading the posts on this topic.  I think it boils down to the fact that Dr. Bates’ post (and any like it) are more appropriately posted to an Autism/Aspergers group that caters to treatments, cures, therapies etc.  If any of us are looking for treatment, cures, therapies, then we’ll go look for them on the internet or we might ask other members for recommendations – which we do a lot J .  My feeling is that our group is primarily for support in our day to day lives with children on the spectrum.  That is the reason why I’m a member.  Thanks for listening and take care. 2 ½ yrs Autistic 4 yrs Apraxic