Re: (Abilify - FDA approved for use with autism in younger...

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O no my 6 yr old is on abilify ahe is autistic and also on adderal xl too

If anyone's child takes Abilify, PLEASE be very, very careful. My 16 year old son (he is not autistic) was on that, and his aggression became worse, and he became suicidal. It is one of the powerful drugs, so just PLEASE be very careful, and watch for side effects.

Jenn

Last one...

And, here - approved for use in children with autism.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/11/21/bristol-abilify-idUSN2023065120091121

LoriPlease BOYCOTT the movie 21 Jump Street! It makes fun of those with autism!https://www.facebook.com/BoycottMovie21JumpStreetForAutism---

Subject: Re: Re: Son antagonizes everyone (Abilify - FDA approved)To: autism-aspergers Date: Tuesday, April 17, 2012, 8:45 AM

I was told by my son's shrink it was approved for use in children for certain dx.

I found this to confirm it. I am sure there are other places to also confirm it as well. Now that being said, my son was taking it long before he turned 10. ;-)

http://psychcentral.com/news/2008/05/09/abilify-receives-approval-for-expanded-use-in-children-teens/2261.html

LoriPlease BOYCOTT the movie 21 Jump Street! It makes fun of those with autism!https://www.facebook.com/BoycottMovie21JumpStreetForAutism---

Subject: Re: Son antagonizes everyoneTo: autism-aspergers Date: Tuesday, April 17, 2012, 8:32 AM

I agree. For us, the damage done by not having the medication was clear. That is the balance I had to weigh. The medication gives my child a chance to live without constant negative feedback from the world around him tearing him up on a daily basis. Yes, it gives us a new challenge, keeping weight in check, but it gives him a chance at a future that he would not have had if he had been allowed to continue down the self-destructive path his negativity and anger set him on. There are no easy answers. > > > >> > > > could your son possibily have fetal alcohol? I have a 13 year old son (adopted) > > > > that sounds just like your son. A year and a half ago he was diagnosed with > > > > fetal alcohol. He still has his moments even though he is on medication for > > > > adhd and mood issues. Recently I noticed that after eating anything with red > > > > dye or pop he becomes more aggressive and extrememly irriated with anyone and > > > > everything. He is our one child that will need constant supervision as to > > > > where he is.> > > > > > > > Louise> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________> > > > From: Durko <roseemerald66@>> > > > To: "autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers >> > > > Sent: Sun, April 15, 2012 9:49:45 AM> > > > Subject: Re: Son antagonizes everyone> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, I am sorry you are going through this. I can relate to your frustration as > > > > my 13yr. old son is exactly the same. I have 4 children as well, 3 of which are > > > > on the spectrum. The oldest tends to be most aggressive, though its often after > > > > being provoked by my 13 year old. At times even though he is difficult he can be > > > > very sensitive, and kind. Actually I have hope that eventually the behavior will > > > > mellow or that he find some work that will have minimal contact with others. My > > > > eldest child is very gullible, and has great difficulty relating to peers on an > > > > appropriate age level, doing better with younger children. I am sorry I do not > > > > have an answer for you, except to say your not alone. Please feel free to write > > > > to me if you just need to vent. > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________> > > > From: Ristau <2boyzmama@>> > > > To: autism-aspergers > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 9:19 AM> > > > Subject: Son antagonizes everyone> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm so frustrated- again. > > > > Mostly because it's morning. And the morning is when my son can be the worst. > > > > He is so antagonistic. He is 10 and has three younger siblings. He takes great > > > > joy in needling them, teasing them, often chasing then, intimidating them and > > > > throwing his weight around. It's frustrating, makes for very difficult > > > > mornings, and it's getting old. > > > > > > > > Once he has his meds (for ADHD) he calms down a bit, but he gets out of bed > > > > ready to take on the world- and not in a good way. > > > > > > > > > > > > He is an incredibly difficult child to parent- for the mere fact that he pretty > > > > much does whatever he wants. We've tried everything- including things with the > > > > help of counselors and family advocates. From reward systems to discipline > > > > strategies, he could care less. He's motivated only by his will and will take > > > > the punishment to get his way. He is argumentative, is always right, and never > > > > at fault. He often retreats into his room to cry and sulk and vocalize about > > > > how "blank" was a huge injustice- even if he was disciplined for hitting, or > > > > lying, or being mean. He never sees it as his fault. he can be the most > > > > difficult person to live with. I vacillate between being angry and feeling > > > > guilty and I'm tired. > > > > > > > > > > > > I read so much about aspergers and don't see a whole lot of this. I sometimes > > > > wonder if he's been misdiagnosed, or if there is more to the story than just > > > > ASD. It's not quirks and difficulty socializing, it's full on intensity. He's > > > > not as aggressive as he used to be- which is helpful- he used to be abusive > > > > towards me and his younger brother- but that has subsided as he's gotten older. > > > > > > > > > > > > We're at a loss. A lot of the time we just tolerate him, or grit our teeth > > > > until he's either changed moods, gone to sleep, or has left for school. I'm > > > > tired of surviving my son, and want to more easily enjoy him. -Let me just add- > > > > when he wants to be- he's an amazing kid. Curious, bright, compassionate, > > > > funny, and helpful. Sadly, these traits are the ones that come out the least. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone else experience this? His personality takes over the family- we're > > > > either managing his behavior, correcting his behavior, or riding out the > > > > backlash from past behavior. It's not fair to the other kids. > > > > > > > > > > > > I've rambled enough. I'm just frustrated once again because he's in his room > > > > again after hitting his brother- for absolutely no reason. > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone? > > > > thanks for listening. > > > > R> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > ________________________________> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic> > Messages in this topic (27)> > |**|end egp html banner|**|>

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O no my 6 yr old is on abilify ahe is autistic and also on adderal xl too

If anyone's child takes Abilify, PLEASE be very, very careful. My 16 year old son (he is not autistic) was on that, and his aggression became worse, and he became suicidal. It is one of the powerful drugs, so just PLEASE be very careful, and watch for side effects.

Jenn

Last one...

And, here - approved for use in children with autism.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/11/21/bristol-abilify-idUSN2023065120091121

LoriPlease BOYCOTT the movie 21 Jump Street! It makes fun of those with autism!https://www.facebook.com/BoycottMovie21JumpStreetForAutism---

Subject: Re: Re: Son antagonizes everyone (Abilify - FDA approved)To: autism-aspergers Date: Tuesday, April 17, 2012, 8:45 AM

I was told by my son's shrink it was approved for use in children for certain dx.

I found this to confirm it. I am sure there are other places to also confirm it as well. Now that being said, my son was taking it long before he turned 10. ;-)

http://psychcentral.com/news/2008/05/09/abilify-receives-approval-for-expanded-use-in-children-teens/2261.html

LoriPlease BOYCOTT the movie 21 Jump Street! It makes fun of those with autism!https://www.facebook.com/BoycottMovie21JumpStreetForAutism---

Subject: Re: Son antagonizes everyoneTo: autism-aspergers Date: Tuesday, April 17, 2012, 8:32 AM

I agree. For us, the damage done by not having the medication was clear. That is the balance I had to weigh. The medication gives my child a chance to live without constant negative feedback from the world around him tearing him up on a daily basis. Yes, it gives us a new challenge, keeping weight in check, but it gives him a chance at a future that he would not have had if he had been allowed to continue down the self-destructive path his negativity and anger set him on. There are no easy answers. > > > >> > > > could your son possibily have fetal alcohol? I have a 13 year old son (adopted) > > > > that sounds just like your son. A year and a half ago he was diagnosed with > > > > fetal alcohol. He still has his moments even though he is on medication for > > > > adhd and mood issues. Recently I noticed that after eating anything with red > > > > dye or pop he becomes more aggressive and extrememly irriated with anyone and > > > > everything. He is our one child that will need constant supervision as to > > > > where he is.> > > > > > > > Louise> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________> > > > From: Durko <roseemerald66@>> > > > To: "autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers >> > > > Sent: Sun, April 15, 2012 9:49:45 AM> > > > Subject: Re: Son antagonizes everyone> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, I am sorry you are going through this. I can relate to your frustration as > > > > my 13yr. old son is exactly the same. I have 4 children as well, 3 of which are > > > > on the spectrum. The oldest tends to be most aggressive, though its often after > > > > being provoked by my 13 year old. At times even though he is difficult he can be > > > > very sensitive, and kind. Actually I have hope that eventually the behavior will > > > > mellow or that he find some work that will have minimal contact with others. My > > > > eldest child is very gullible, and has great difficulty relating to peers on an > > > > appropriate age level, doing better with younger children. I am sorry I do not > > > > have an answer for you, except to say your not alone. Please feel free to write > > > > to me if you just need to vent. > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________> > > > From: Ristau <2boyzmama@>> > > > To: autism-aspergers > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 9:19 AM> > > > Subject: Son antagonizes everyone> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm so frustrated- again. > > > > Mostly because it's morning. And the morning is when my son can be the worst. > > > > He is so antagonistic. He is 10 and has three younger siblings. He takes great > > > > joy in needling them, teasing them, often chasing then, intimidating them and > > > > throwing his weight around. It's frustrating, makes for very difficult > > > > mornings, and it's getting old. > > > > > > > > Once he has his meds (for ADHD) he calms down a bit, but he gets out of bed > > > > ready to take on the world- and not in a good way. > > > > > > > > > > > > He is an incredibly difficult child to parent- for the mere fact that he pretty > > > > much does whatever he wants. We've tried everything- including things with the > > > > help of counselors and family advocates. From reward systems to discipline > > > > strategies, he could care less. He's motivated only by his will and will take > > > > the punishment to get his way. He is argumentative, is always right, and never > > > > at fault. He often retreats into his room to cry and sulk and vocalize about > > > > how "blank" was a huge injustice- even if he was disciplined for hitting, or > > > > lying, or being mean. He never sees it as his fault. he can be the most > > > > difficult person to live with. I vacillate between being angry and feeling > > > > guilty and I'm tired. > > > > > > > > > > > > I read so much about aspergers and don't see a whole lot of this. I sometimes > > > > wonder if he's been misdiagnosed, or if there is more to the story than just > > > > ASD. It's not quirks and difficulty socializing, it's full on intensity. He's > > > > not as aggressive as he used to be- which is helpful- he used to be abusive > > > > towards me and his younger brother- but that has subsided as he's gotten older. > > > > > > > > > > > > We're at a loss. A lot of the time we just tolerate him, or grit our teeth > > > > until he's either changed moods, gone to sleep, or has left for school. I'm > > > > tired of surviving my son, and want to more easily enjoy him. -Let me just add- > > > > when he wants to be- he's an amazing kid. Curious, bright, compassionate, > > > > funny, and helpful. Sadly, these traits are the ones that come out the least. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone else experience this? His personality takes over the family- we're > > > > either managing his behavior, correcting his behavior, or riding out the > > > > backlash from past behavior. It's not fair to the other kids. > > > > > > > > > > > > I've rambled enough. I'm just frustrated once again because he's in his room > > > > again after hitting his brother- for absolutely no reason. > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone? > > > > thanks for listening. > > > > R> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > ________________________________> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic> > Messages in this topic (27)> > |**|end egp html banner|**|>

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Pls don't let that freak you out. Speak to your child's Dr if you have fears but know that...Suicidal thoughts can be a side effect of most anti-depressant meds for teens. This is nothing new. All you can do is watch very closely for any changes in behavior, feelings, etc.My son first went on TENEX and it made him more agitated and aggressive and exhausted! But his twin sister is on it and it totally takes away her anxiety!Every child responds differently.LoriSent from my iPhone

O no my 6 yr old is on abilify ahe is autistic and also on adderal xl too

If anyone's child takes Abilify, PLEASE be very, very careful. My 16 year old son (he is not autistic) was on that, and his aggression became worse, and he became suicidal. It is one of the powerful drugs, so just PLEASE be very careful, and watch for side effects.

Jenn

Last one...

And, here - approved for use in children with autism.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/11/21/bristol-abilify-idUSN2023065120091121

LoriPlease BOYCOTT the movie 21 Jump Street! It makes fun of those with autism!https://www.facebook.com/BoycottMovie21JumpStreetForAutism---

Subject: Re: Re: Son antagonizes everyone (Abilify - FDA approved)To: autism-aspergers Date: Tuesday, April 17, 2012, 8:45 AM

I was told by my son's shrink it was approved for use in children for certain dx.

I found this to confirm it. I am sure there are other places to also confirm it as well. Now that being said, my son was taking it long before he turned 10. ;-)

http://psychcentral.com/news/2008/05/09/abilify-receives-approval-for-expanded-use-in-children-teens/2261.html

LoriPlease BOYCOTT the movie 21 Jump Street! It makes fun of those with autism!https://www.facebook.com/BoycottMovie21JumpStreetForAutism---

Subject: Re: Son antagonizes everyoneTo: autism-aspergers Date: Tuesday, April 17, 2012, 8:32 AM

I agree. For us, the damage done by not having the medication was clear. That is the balance I had to weigh. The medication gives my child a chance to live without constant negative feedback from the world around him tearing him up on a daily basis. Yes, it gives us a new challenge, keeping weight in check, but it gives him a chance at a future that he would not have had if he had been allowed to continue down the self-destructive path his negativity and anger set him on. There are no easy answers. > > > >> > > > could your son possibily have fetal alcohol? I have a 13 year old son (adopted) > > > > that sounds just like your son. A year and a half ago he was diagnosed with > > > > fetal alcohol. He still has his moments even though he is on medication for > > > > adhd and mood issues. Recently I noticed that after eating anything with red > > > > dye or pop he becomes more aggressive and extrememly irriated with anyone and > > > > everything. He is our one child that will need constant supervision as to > > > > where he is.> > > > > > > > Louise> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________> > > > From: Durko <roseemerald66@>> > > > To: "autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers >> > > > Sent: Sun, April 15, 2012 9:49:45 AM> > > > Subject: Re: Son antagonizes everyone> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, I am sorry you are going through this. I can relate to your frustration as > > > > my 13yr. old son is exactly the same. I have 4 children as well, 3 of which are > > > > on the spectrum. The oldest tends to be most aggressive, though its often after > > > > being provoked by my 13 year old. At times even though he is difficult he can be > > > > very sensitive, and kind. Actually I have hope that eventually the

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I have talked to her dr about it she said she needs it without it she says naughty words and is aggressive without the med's I know I am on a anti depressant and had weird thoughts my dr said it is my body getting adjusted to it

Pls don't let that freak you out. Speak to your child's Dr if you have fears but know that...

Suicidal thoughts can be a side effect of most anti-depressant meds for teens. This is nothing new. All you can do is watch very closely for any changes in behavior, feelings, etc.

My son first went on TENEX and it made him more agitated and aggressive and exhausted! But his twin sister is on it and it totally takes away her anxiety!

Every child responds differently.

LoriSent from my iPhone

O no my 6 yr old is on abilify ahe is autistic and also on adderal xl too

If anyone's child takes Abilify, PLEASE be very, very careful. My 16 year old son (he is not autistic) was on that, and his aggression became worse, and he became suicidal. It is one of the powerful drugs, so just PLEASE be very careful, and watch for side effects.

Jenn

Last one...

And, here - approved for use in children with autism.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/11/21/bristol-abilify-idUSN2023065120091121

LoriPlease BOYCOTT the movie 21 Jump Street! It makes fun of those with autism!https://www.facebook.com/BoycottMovie21JumpStreetForAutism---

Subject: Re: Re: Son antagonizes everyone (Abilify - FDA approved)To: autism-aspergers Date: Tuesday, April 17, 2012, 8:45 AM

I was told by my son's shrink it was approved for use in children for certain dx.

I found this to confirm it. I am sure there are other places to also confirm it as well. Now that being said, my son was taking it long before he turned 10. ;-)

http://psychcentral.com/news/2008/05/09/abilify-receives-approval-for-expanded-use-in-children-teens/2261.html

LoriPlease BOYCOTT the movie 21 Jump Street! It makes fun of those with autism!https://www.facebook.com/BoycottMovie21JumpStreetForAutism---

Subject: Re: Son antagonizes everyoneTo: autism-aspergers Date: Tuesday, April 17, 2012, 8:32 AM

I agree. For us, the damage done by not having the medication was clear. That is the balance I had to weigh. The medication gives my child a chance to live without constant negative feedback from the world around him tearing him up on a daily basis. Yes, it gives us a new challenge, keeping weight in check, but it gives him a chance at a future that he would not have had if he had been allowed to continue down the self-destructive path his negativity and anger set him on. There are no easy answers. > > > >> > > > could your son possibily have fetal alcohol? I have a 13 year old son (adopted) > > > > that sounds just like your son. A year and a half ago he was diagnosed with > > > > fetal alcohol. He still has his moments even though he is on medication for > > > > adhd and mood issues. Recently I noticed that after eating anything with red > > > > dye or pop he becomes more aggressive and extrememly irriated with anyone and > > > > everything. He is our one child that will need constant supervision as to > > > > where he is.> > > > > > > > Louise> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________> > > > From: Durko <roseemerald66@>> > > > To: "autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers >> > > > Sent: Sun, April 15, 2012 9:49:45 AM> > > > Subject: Re: Son antagonizes everyone> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, I am sorry you are going through this. I can relate to your frustration as > > > > my 13yr. old son is exactly the same. I have 4 children as well, 3 of which are > > > > on the spectrum. The oldest tends to be most aggressive, though its often after > > > > being provoked by my 13 year old. At times even though he is difficult he can be > > > > very sensitive, and kind. Actually I have hope that eventually the

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I have talked to her dr about it she said she needs it without it she says naughty words and is aggressive without the med's I know I am on a anti depressant and had weird thoughts my dr said it is my body getting adjusted to it

Pls don't let that freak you out. Speak to your child's Dr if you have fears but know that...

Suicidal thoughts can be a side effect of most anti-depressant meds for teens. This is nothing new. All you can do is watch very closely for any changes in behavior, feelings, etc.

My son first went on TENEX and it made him more agitated and aggressive and exhausted! But his twin sister is on it and it totally takes away her anxiety!

Every child responds differently.

LoriSent from my iPhone

O no my 6 yr old is on abilify ahe is autistic and also on adderal xl too

If anyone's child takes Abilify, PLEASE be very, very careful. My 16 year old son (he is not autistic) was on that, and his aggression became worse, and he became suicidal. It is one of the powerful drugs, so just PLEASE be very careful, and watch for side effects.

Jenn

Last one...

And, here - approved for use in children with autism.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/11/21/bristol-abilify-idUSN2023065120091121

LoriPlease BOYCOTT the movie 21 Jump Street! It makes fun of those with autism!https://www.facebook.com/BoycottMovie21JumpStreetForAutism---

Subject: Re: Re: Son antagonizes everyone (Abilify - FDA approved)To: autism-aspergers Date: Tuesday, April 17, 2012, 8:45 AM

I was told by my son's shrink it was approved for use in children for certain dx.

I found this to confirm it. I am sure there are other places to also confirm it as well. Now that being said, my son was taking it long before he turned 10. ;-)

http://psychcentral.com/news/2008/05/09/abilify-receives-approval-for-expanded-use-in-children-teens/2261.html

LoriPlease BOYCOTT the movie 21 Jump Street! It makes fun of those with autism!https://www.facebook.com/BoycottMovie21JumpStreetForAutism---

Subject: Re: Son antagonizes everyoneTo: autism-aspergers Date: Tuesday, April 17, 2012, 8:32 AM

I agree. For us, the damage done by not having the medication was clear. That is the balance I had to weigh. The medication gives my child a chance to live without constant negative feedback from the world around him tearing him up on a daily basis. Yes, it gives us a new challenge, keeping weight in check, but it gives him a chance at a future that he would not have had if he had been allowed to continue down the self-destructive path his negativity and anger set him on. There are no easy answers. > > > >> > > > could your son possibily have fetal alcohol? I have a 13 year old son (adopted) > > > > that sounds just like your son. A year and a half ago he was diagnosed with > > > > fetal alcohol. He still has his moments even though he is on medication for > > > > adhd and mood issues. Recently I noticed that after eating anything with red > > > > dye or pop he becomes more aggressive and extrememly irriated with anyone and > > > > everything. He is our one child that will need constant supervision as to > > > > where he is.> > > > > > > > Louise> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________> > > > From: Durko <roseemerald66@>> > > > To: "autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers >> > > > Sent: Sun, April 15, 2012 9:49:45 AM> > > > Subject: Re: Son antagonizes everyone> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, I am sorry you are going through this. I can relate to your frustration as > > > > my 13yr. old son is exactly the same. I have 4 children as well, 3 of which are > > > > on the spectrum. The oldest tends to be most aggressive, though its often after > > > > being provoked by my 13 year old. At times even though he is difficult he can be > > > > very sensitive, and kind. Actually I have hope that eventually the

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I had to take mine off ability it made him more aggressive

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Thanks! my son is going to the doctor the first week of May. They are going to put him on some type of medicine for behavior. I asked them if they could hint what medicine they were thinking about, at our last appointment. They wouldn't say. They said they had to confer with eachother first.

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I had to take mine off ability it made him more aggressive