Re: blood pressure

[Guest guest]

Hi Donna, cut out all processed foods because they are all extremely high in

sodium, take blackstrap molasses supplements and eat 2 bananas a day that is

a good start. I also only have raw organic milk and eat 98% organic

everything (including my occasional bar of chocolate). Exercise is essential

and a brisk 15 - 30 minute walk each day will do very nicely. Brisk as in a

slight breathlessness but not excessive, if you have other health issues that

mean you cannot walk briskly (I do) then walk for 45 minutes daily at your

best pace.

nne

> Hi nne, What did you do to lower you blood pressure.

>

> Thanks

> Donna

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/8/02 14:33:46 GMT Daylight Time, marianne2406@...

writes:

> > Hi nne, What did you do to lower you blood pressure.

> >

> > Thanks

> > Donna

Hi Donna,

I too had high BP three months ago and was being pressured into using

medication from my GP to lower it.(I'm 44 with low thyroid)

I took to juicing everynight and drinking 2 pints of juice with a range of

fresh organic veg, always being sure to include celery.

I added tomoato juice and meat stock (unsalted) to reduce the sourness or

added a few extra carrots.

I drank nothing but pure squeezed orange juice and bottled spring water ,

high in magnesium.

I ate bananas to fill me and bran cereal (unsalted).At least 2 bananas daily

and for excercise, half an hour of warm up stretches and half an hour of

aerobics to music to gently " out of breath " level.

Last week I had a BP check again and my Doc was " very pleased " saying he was

amazed at how much it had reduced in the short space of time.

I had been having the heart palps and flutters and arythmas for months and

they have so far ceased.

I have noticed though, if I drink a lot of pure Orange juice they start to

happen again, cut it out and they stop....not quite sure why that is...so I'm

on bottled spring water again and cranberry and raspberry instead.

Cassy

[Guest guest]

Hi Cassey, I was most impressed with your regime although I cannot do aerobic

exercise at all, I will look at the diet side of it because I am always open

to something new.

Have you checked what is in the OJ that you were drinking, it could contain

something that is a stimulent.

Celery is excellent and so are bananas for lowering bp, a banana smoothie in

the morning and celery juice in the evening - perfect.

nne

> Hi Donna,

> I too had high BP three months ago and was being pressured into using

> medication from my GP to lower it.(I'm 44 with low thyroid)

>

> I took to juicing everynight and drinking 2 pints of juice with a range of

> fresh organic veg, always being sure to include celery.

>

> I added tomoato juice and meat stock (unsalted) to reduce the sourness or

> added a few extra carrots.

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/8/02 16:18:57 GMT Daylight Time, marianne2406@...

writes:

>Have you checked what is in the OJ that you were drinking, it could contain

>something that is a stimulent.

Hi nne,

The orange juice was just pure juice from oranges,concentrated.....but I

guess I may have a sensitivity to it as a couple of times years ago, real

orange juice (pressed) triggered migraine attacks within 10 minutes of

consuming it......?

Cassy

[Guest guest]

The body is very clever letting us know what it doesn't like isn't it -

although you say it was pure juice, they have to put something into it to

stop it from going off - can you ear fresh oranges, because if you can, then

it is the additives that are causing you a problem or maybe what is being

leeched into the orange from the carton.

nne

> The orange juice was just pure juice from oranges,concentrated.....but I

> guess I may have a sensitivity to it as a couple of times years ago, real

> orange juice (pressed) triggered migraine attacks within 10 minutes of

> consuming it......?

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Ken, I cannot do aerobic exercise because I have, arthritis of most joints

including the spine and athericlerosis (narrowed arteries) - walking

and swimming are the only recommended forms of exercise for me and I cannot

swim so stuck with walking.

Please only add the raw egg if you are not elderly, young or pregnant and

ensure that the egg is organic. My husband and his father always had 2 raw

eggs beaten into hot milk for their breakfast many years ago.

nne

> Add a raw egg to the smoothie and organic vanilla extract to taste. Or

> maybe even do Saul's smoothie (cannot find at moment but maybe he will

> post). Why can you not do any aerobic exercise

[Guest guest]

Sorry but that sounds dangerous to me for anyone with high blood pressure.

nne

> Celtic Sea salt 1/4 teaspoon per quart of water. 1/2

> your body weight in oz (200/2=100 oz of salted water

> per day...Ron Inda

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi nne,

Sorry to haer about your puter probs Get well soon!!

The OJ is vacuum packed and then to be refrigerated when opened

and they say packers state that nothing is added but as you mention..who

knows what is in the waxed carton that leaches into the acid mix.

Natural oranges were /are what trigger migraines so I avoid them now though I

have never had migraines triggered by cartoned juice as presumably it is

pasteurised?

(Carton isn't explicit about that)

I would like to know why though the OJ seems to prompt heart palps. Maybe

the OJ acidity changing my blood chemistry?

As you can see, clutching at passing thoughts here!

Cassy

marianne2406@... writes:

The body is very clever letting us know what it doesn't like isn't it -

although you say it was pure juice, they have to put something into it to

stop it from going off - can you ear fresh oranges, because if you can, then

it is the additives that are causing you a problem or maybe what is being

leeched into the orange from the carton.

nne

> The orange juice was just pure juice from oranges,concentrated.....but I

> guess I may have a sensitivity to it as a couple of times years ago, real

> orange juice (pressed) triggered migraine attacks within 10 minutes of

> consuming it......?

>

[Guest guest]

Casey

Low thyroid can cause heart paps and the other symptoms you mentoned. I

have found a lot of things it can cause. I, too, have low thyroid after

taking RAI

Serita

[Guest guest]

Isn't this the truth, the fact that you are gaining/losing weight big time

seems totally irrelevant to them/ If you are gaining weight, you are a pig,

if losing you are heading for anorexia - they also do not investigate graves

disease or hashimotos - I have been fighting them for 2 years now and still

don't have any answers.

marianne

> YOU. Not to their " scale "

> and that is the hard part. Doctor's tell you, well you are " on the

> scale " so it's okay.

> There are different scales but on a 4 - 12 1/2 scale there is a BIG

> difference between one end and the other.

>

[Guest guest]

Add a raw egg to the smoothie and organic vanilla extract to taste. Or

maybe even do Saul's smoothie (cannot find at moment but maybe he will

post). Why can you not do any aerobic exercise? Love, Ken

Ken Gullan

Institute for Research Integration (IRI)

IRI is a 501C(3) non-profit corporation established to help children with

developmental difficulties.

Re: blood pressure

> Hi Cassey, I was most impressed with your regime although I cannot do

aerobic

> exercise at all, I will look at the diet side of it because I am always

open

> to something new.

>

> Have you checked what is in the OJ that you were drinking, it could

contain

> something that is a stimulent.

>

> Celery is excellent and so are bananas for lowering bp, a banana smoothie

in

> the morning and celery juice in the evening - perfect.

>

> nne

>

>

> > Hi Donna,

> > I too had high BP three months ago and was being pressured into using

> > medication from my GP to lower it.(I'm 44 with low thyroid)

> >

> > I took to juicing everynight and drinking 2 pints of juice with a range

of

> > fresh organic veg, always being sure to include celery.

> >

> > I added tomoato juice and meat stock (unsalted) to reduce the sourness

or

> > added a few extra carrots.

> >

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Celtic Sea salt 1/4 teaspoon per quart of water. 1/2

your body weight in oz (200/2=100 oz of salted water

per day...Ron Inda

Try this for three weeks. Do not do this if kidneys

are infected.

--- " Ken A. Gullan " wrote:

> Add a raw egg to the smoothie and organic vanilla

> extract to taste. Or

> maybe even do Saul's smoothie (cannot find at moment

> but maybe he will

> post). Why can you not do any aerobic exercise?

> Love, Ken

> Ken Gullan

> Institute for Research Integration (IRI)

>

>

> IRI is a 501C(3) non-profit corporation established

> to help children with

> developmental difficulties.

> Re: blood pressure

>

>

> > Hi Cassey, I was most impressed with your regime

> although I cannot do

> aerobic

> > exercise at all, I will look at the diet side of

> it because I am always

> open

> > to something new.

> >

> > Have you checked what is in the OJ that you were

> drinking, it could

> contain

> > something that is a stimulent.

> >

> > Celery is excellent and so are bananas for

> lowering bp, a banana smoothie

> in

> > the morning and celery juice in the evening -

> perfect.

> >

> > nne

> >

> >

> > > Hi Donna,

> > > I too had high BP three months ago and was

> being pressured into using

> > > medication from my GP to lower it.(I'm 44 with

> low thyroid)

> > >

> > > I took to juicing everynight and drinking 2

> pints of juice with a range

> of

> > > fresh organic veg, always being sure to include

> celery.

> > >

> > > I added tomoato juice and meat stock (unsalted)

> to reduce the sourness

> or

> > > added a few extra carrots.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

nne

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Re: blood pressure

Sorry but that sounds dangerous to me for anyone with high blood pressure.

nne

> Celtic Sea salt 1/4 teaspoon per quart of water. 1/2

> your body weight in oz (200/2=100 oz of salted water

> per day...Ron Inda

>

>

[Guest guest]

I suggest you read chapter 6 in & #34;YOUR BODY'S MANY

CRIES FOR WATER & #34; by F. Batmanghelidj, M.D. I

thought he was crazy when I first read it. Then I and

some of my patients tried it, and measured the

results, including BIA and Phase angle testing. Wow

the results were nothing but great for many

degenerative diseases...Respectfully Dr. W.

Inda

The salt water was alkalized using Alkalife. For more

information on Alkalization I suggest you read

& #34;REVERSE AGING & #34; by Sang Whang.

Acquiring good health is not that difficult when you

know what to do.

--- marianne2406@... wrote:

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[Guest guest]

Hello Cassy

If you have low thyroid you should read Solved: The Riddle of Illness by

Langer - if not at your library or local book store, you can get

it new or used from booksellers on the web. There is also a newsletter

called " Sticking our necks out " by Shomon who has also witten some

thyroid books- I think it's on about.com, if not, it's yahoo

Yes heart paps and other symptoms can be causd by overactive thyroid as

well as underactive. The trick is to get it set to what is right for

YOU. Not to their " scale "

and that is the hard part. Doctor's tell you, well you are " on the

scale " so it's okay.

There are different scales but on a 4 - 12 1/2 scale there is a BIG

difference between one end and the other.

Serita

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the reading list Serita

I will definitely look the books up.

I felt that just replacing the thyroxin wasnt " enough " since so many other

functions are controlled by the thyroid gland, not just production of thyroid.

Luckily I have a doctor that lets me adjust my dose within limits and he will

ask me what dose of thyroxin I " feel better " on.

However I am never really sure. I used to be very highly strung and on the go

all the time...I prefer to be more relaxed and able to relax.

I can achieve this with a slightly lower dose.

I have had blood readings done after both a higher and lower oral dose (after

a two week period of taking that particular dose of thyroxin) and the blood

tests have measured identical results.

I feel sometimes I need more than at othertimes.....if the gland was working

to demand naturally it would accomodate that demand. As it is, we are more or

less on a similar input (from the supplement) daily.On some days this will be

less than our bodies require and other days more than enough.

Serita-w@... writes:

> If you have low thyroid you should read Solved: The Riddle of Illness by

> Langer - if not at your library or local book store, you can get

> it new or used from booksellers on the web. There is also a newsletter

> called " Sticking our necks out " by Shomon who has also witten some

> thyroid books- I think it's on about.com, if not, it's yahoo

> Yes heart paps and other symptoms can be causd by overactive thyroid as

> well as underactive. The trick is to get it set to what is right for

> YOU. Not to their " scale "

> and that is the hard part. Doctor's tell you, well you are " on the

> scale " so it's okay.

> There are different scales but on a 4 - 12 1/2 scale there is a BIG

> difference between one end and the other.

>

[Guest guest]

After three weeks, so you continue on for life? Also, does anyone know the

difference between " Real Salt " and Celtic salt. Is there a difference or not?

Thanks

Donna

----- Original Message -----

From: Ron Inda

Celtic Sea salt 1/4 teaspoon per quart of water. 1/2

your body weight in oz (200/2=100 oz of salted water

per day...Ron Inda

Try this for three weeks. Do not do this if kidneys

are infected.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the great info. I find bananas are just way too acidiphying for me.

Blessings,

Donna

----- Original Message -----

From: UKPurrrkat@...

Hi Donna,

snip

I ate bananas to fill me

snip

Cassy

[Guest guest]

Absolutely, they are 25% sugar and something which Dr. Young recommends to

avoid for those with critical health challenges who are on an alkalarian

diet.

Re: blood pressure

Thanks for the great info. I find bananas are just way too acidiphying for

me.

Blessings,

Donna

----- Original Message -----

From: UKPurrrkat@...

Hi Donna,

snip

I ate bananas to fill me

snip

Cassy

[Guest guest]

Walking is aerobic! Try msm for your arthritis/ See

www.colloidalsilversolutions.com Maybe you will soon be running! :-)

Ken Gullan

Institute for Research Integration (IRI)

IRI is a 501C(3) non-profit corporation established to help children with

developmental difficulties.

Re: blood pressure

> Hi Ken, I cannot do aerobic exercise because I have, arthritis of most

joints

> including the spine and athericlerosis (narrowed arteries) - walking

> and swimming are the only recommended forms of exercise for me and I

cannot

> swim so stuck with walking.

[Guest guest]

Uneven heartbeat can be caused by an imbalance of magnesium and calcium

since one controls the contraction of the heart muscle and one the

relaxation of the heart muscle.

Ken Gullan

Institute for Research Integration (IRI)

IRI is a 501C(3) non-profit corporation established to help children with

developmental difficulties.

[Guest guest]

Also walk back and forth in the shallow end, about waist deep. Therapy

pools are about 4' deep. I had to learn to walk again this way. It

helps.

" Ken A. Gullan " wrote:

>

> Walking is aerobic! Try msm for your arthritis/ See

> www.colloidalsilversolutions.com Maybe you will soon be running! :-)

> Ken Gullan

> Institute for Research Integration (IRI)

>

>

> IRI is a 501C(3) non-profit corporation established to help children with

> developmental difficulties.

> Re: blood pressure

>

> > Hi Ken, I cannot do aerobic exercise because I have, arthritis of most

> joints

> > including the spine and athericlerosis (narrowed arteries) - walking

> > and swimming are the only recommended forms of exercise for me and I

> cannot

> > swim so stuck with walking.

[Guest guest]

Hi Ken,

An excellent point and an excellent reason for consideration of Dr. Young's

Prime pH alkalizing drops, inasmuch as the presence of nascent oxygen with

sodium in NaCl)2 assures of both Ca and Mg.

Much Goodwill,

A. Brown, PhD.

Re: blood pressure

Uneven heartbeat can be caused by an imbalance of magnesium and calcium

since one controls the contraction of the heart muscle and one the

relaxation of the heart muscle.

Ken Gullan

Institute for Research Integration (IRI)

IRI is a 501C(3) non-profit corporation established to help children with

developmental difficulties.

OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other

alternative self-help subjects.

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 08/08/02 03:34:19 GMT Daylight Time, kengullan@...

writes:

> Walking is aerobic! Try msm for your arthritis/ See

> www.colloidalsilversolutions.com Maybe you will soon be running! :-)

> Ken Gullan

>

That would be a novelty, me running - will try the msm although I have tried

it before and it didn't do anything for me. I would purchase this product

from the site but it would cost me so much in shipping that it takes it out

of my price range.

nne

[Guest guest]

Thank you for this info, I have not been near a pool in about 20 years, since

my kids were no longer of an age where they needed me to be there with them.

I am totally petrified of water and avoid anywhere that has deep water, plus

with all my health problems and weight gain, there is no way that I would

subject others to the sight of me in a swim suit.

nne

> Also walk back and forth in the shallow end, about waist deep. Therapy

> pools are about 4' deep. I had to learn to walk again this way. It

> helps.

>