Guest guest Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 Greetings, Is there anything wrong with leaving scoby's together? I brew in gallon jars and usually don't bother to seperate Mother from Baby when a batch is ready to bottle. Unless someone wants one, I just rince them off and put them back in the jar with some of the brewed Tea, mix up the new batch and add it to the jar. If they get ugly I clean them up and seperate anything really disturbing looking from the family and let the others be. A family of four looks pretty happy in the jar. I don't see it having any negative efects. I have several cultures in the fridge in ziplocks just in case something goes wrong but I just hate throwing away healthy cultures. Thanks everyone, ny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 Don't put them in the fridge, mine croaked when I did that. If you have 5 going at once in one jar, they will brew faster. C. They're Multiplying like rabitts! > > Greetings, > Is there anything wrong with leaving scoby's together? > I brew in gallon jars and usually don't bother to seperate Mother from > Baby when a batch is ready to bottle. Unless someone wants one, I just > rince them off and put them back in the jar with some of the brewed > Tea, mix up the new batch and add it to the jar. If they get ugly I > clean them up and seperate anything really disturbing looking from the > family and let the others be. A family of four looks pretty happy in > the jar. I don't see it having any negative efects. > I have several cultures in the fridge in ziplocks just in case > something goes wrong but I just hate throwing away healthy cultures. > Thanks everyone, > ny > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 > >Is there anything wrong with leaving scoby's together? >I brew in gallon jars and usually don't bother to seperate Mother from >Baby when a batch is ready to bottle. Unless someone wants one, I just >rince them off and put them back in the jar with some of the brewed >Tea, mix up the new batch and add it to the jar. I do this as well to a certain degree, then when the ones on the bottom get really floppy and I feel like I have too much SCOBY in jar I will take some off. I use them to make medicinals and they get fed sometimes to my pet potbellied pigs, which I swear cleared up my one pig's postnasal drip. It seems like you're not really having any negative effects, but it's advised seriously not to rinse SCOBYs with water as the pH is all wrong and it sets them back or can seriously injure. In cases where there is chlorine in the water it could really do some serious damage. >If they get ugly I >clean them up and seperate anything really disturbing looking from the >family and let the others be. One of the things kombucha has to teach us is that beauty is culturally determined. SCOBYs do get rather messy and are definitely not always picture perfect. But there's nothing *wrong* with SCOBYs that are rough looking. But maybe you just mean that you're separating off the SCOBYs that are getting older and floppity? >A family of four looks pretty happy in >the jar. I don't see it having any negative efects. >I have several cultures in the fridge in ziplocks just in case >something goes wrong but I just hate throwing away healthy cultures. ny I know what you mean, I'm the same way. However, it is truly suggested that extra SCOBYs be stored not in the refridge, but on the countertop, in a glass jar, swimming in KT. They can all happily live together in the same jar. The ziplock baggies are leaching toxics into the SCOBYs when they are stored for long periods of time like that. The plastic in those baggies is known to be quite volatile and leaches into contents quite easily. The acidic nature of the KT/SCOBY it most certainly is leaching. fyi. --V ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 -----Original Message----- From: original_kombucha [mailto:original_kombucha ] On Behalf Of ny Gooch >>Is there anything wrong with leaving scoby's together? Unless someone wants one, I just rince them off and put them back in the jar with some of the brewed Tea, mix up the new batch and add it to the jar. If they get ugly I clean them up and seperate anything really disturbing looking from the family and let the others be. I have several cultures in the fridge in ziplocks just in case something goes wrong but I just hate throwing away healthy cultures. << --------------------------- Hi ny- I sometimes brew with more than one scoby in a batch, and the extras that I have I keep in a separate gallon jar together with some brewed Kombucha. It's not a good idea to keep the Kombucha cultures in the refrigerator. They don't like the cold and sometimes they have a little trouble getting started again when being used for a new brew. The jar with the extra scobys ends up with very acidic Kombucha " vinegar, " which is great stuff when used for starter in your next brew. I use around 16 ounces of the acidic starter per gallon in new batches and replace that amount with finished Kombucha from the last batch. That way you give the resting scobys a little " food " (from the newly brewed KT), and they keep on making nice, acidic starter KT for future batches. I learned this method from several people in this group, and it works really well. Also regarding keeping extra scobys in plastic bags: one of the scientists in the group said that he tested storing KT in several different types of plastics to see if the KT leached toxins from the plastic into the KT. They found that the food grade plastics didn't leach toxins but the plastic bags (they are #3 type plastic) did leach toxins. So it's not a good idea to store extra cultures and KT in plastic bags. The " starter jar " method of storage mentioned above solves this problem. I think if you're giving someone a culture, the plastic bags are OK, as long as it's not in the bag for very long. One last thing: you didn't say how you " wash " your scobys when they get too " ugly " -- the " ugliness " is probably yeast colonies -- kind of brown stringy, slimy stuff. It's never a good idea to wash the cultures with anything but KT or distilled vinegar. What I do if there's too much yeast gunk on the cultures is, when I harvest the brew and take the cultures out of the jar, with clean hands I just gently wipe off the excess and toss it down the sink. Washing with water will remove the acidic surface liquid and could leave the culture vulnerable to mold. All the best, Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 In message <003701c63638$a75fcde0$6700a8c0@Allyn> you wrote: > I am on my third batch but my babies and mother scobies have not separated. > Am I suppose to separate them? I thought they would separate on their own. > Allyn, you don't HAVE to separate them, unless you are desperate for an extra culture. Then it is best to just cut the scoby in half across all the layers. Blessings, Margret:-) -- +---------------------------------------------------------------+ Minstrel@... <)))<>< http://www.therpc.f9.co.uk <)))<>< http://www.AnswersInGenesis.com http://www.elijahlist.com +---------------------------------------------------------------+ Sacrifice is the true measure of love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 I am on my third batch but my babies and mother scobies have not separated. Am I suppose to separate them? I thought they would separate on their own. Allyn _____ From: original_kombucha [mailto:original_kombucha ] On Behalf Of Dana Black Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 11:03 AM To: original_kombucha Subject: RE: They're Multiplying like rabitts! -----Original Message----- From: original_kombucha [mailto:original_kombucha ] On Behalf Of ny Gooch >>Is there anything wrong with leaving scoby's together? Unless someone wants one, I just rince them off and put them back in the jar with some of the brewed Tea, mix up the new batch and add it to the jar. If they get ugly I clean them up and seperate anything really disturbing looking from the family and let the others be. I have several cultures in the fridge in ziplocks just in case something goes wrong but I just hate throwing away healthy cultures. << --------------------------- Hi ny- I sometimes brew with more than one scoby in a batch, and the extras that I have I keep in a separate gallon jar together with some brewed Kombucha. It's not a good idea to keep the Kombucha cultures in the refrigerator. They don't like the cold and sometimes they have a little trouble getting started again when being used for a new brew. The jar with the extra scobys ends up with very acidic Kombucha " vinegar, " which is great stuff when used for starter in your next brew. I use around 16 ounces of the acidic starter per gallon in new batches and replace that amount with finished Kombucha from the last batch. That way you give the resting scobys a little " food " (from the newly brewed KT), and they keep on making nice, acidic starter KT for future batches. I learned this method from several people in this group, and it works really well. Also regarding keeping extra scobys in plastic bags: one of the scientists in the group said that he tested storing KT in several different types of plastics to see if the KT leached toxins from the plastic into the KT. They found that the food grade plastics didn't leach toxins but the plastic bags (they are #3 type plastic) did leach toxins. So it's not a good idea to store extra cultures and KT in plastic bags. The " starter jar " method of storage mentioned above solves this problem. I think if you're giving someone a culture, the plastic bags are OK, as long as it's not in the bag for very long. One last thing: you didn't say how you " wash " your scobys when they get too " ugly " -- the " ugliness " is probably yeast colonies -- kind of brown stringy, slimy stuff. It's never a good idea to wash the cultures with anything but KT or distilled vinegar. What I do if there's too much yeast gunk on the cultures is, when I harvest the brew and take the cultures out of the jar, with clean hands I just gently wipe off the excess and toss it down the sink. Washing with water will remove the acidic surface liquid and could leave the culture vulnerable to mold. All the best, Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 It doesn't matter, unless you need extras. If you need more cultures, you can cut the stuck together ones (leaving them together) like you would cut a pie (not separating the layers and using a stainless steel knife). It doesn't matter if they are the right shape for your jar. Some of mine stick together, others don't. I haven't seen them come apart on their own. -Dana -----Original Message----- From: original_kombucha [mailto:original_kombucha ] On Behalf Of ALLYN FERRIS I am on my third batch but my babies and mother scobies have not separated. Am I suppose to separate them? I thought they would separate on their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 It doesn't matter, unless you need extras. If you need more cultures, you can cut the stuck together ones (leaving them together) like you would cut a pie (not separating the layers and using a stainless steel knife). It doesn't matter if they are the right shape for your jar. Some of mine stick together, others don't. I haven't seen them come apart on their own. -Dana -----Original Message----- From: original_kombucha [mailto:original_kombucha ] On Behalf Of ALLYN FERRIS I am on my third batch but my babies and mother scobies have not separated. Am I suppose to separate them? I thought they would separate on their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 >It doesn't matter, unless you need extras. If you need more cultures, you >can cut the stuck together ones (leaving them together) like you would cut a >pie (not separating the layers and using a stainless steel knife). It >doesn't matter if they are the right shape for your jar. Some of mine stick >together, others don't. I haven't seen them come apart on their own. > >-Dana Oh, I have. As they age mine tend to fall off the bottom, become more loose from that direction, generally. But all kinda things happen, like, they all stick together and then the next SCOBY is totally separate, or it will separate itself in the middle somewhere. I have tended to leave the SCOBYs together when they are knitting together because it seems to me if they knit then there may be a reason. --V ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 You have rabbits and I'm dying for just one. Would someone please send me a scoby!! I will gladly pay for shipping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 hello where are you? theres al ist of people all over the world with scobies to share, i'll find the url Swirl792@... wrote: You have rabbits and I'm dying for just one. Would someone please send me a scoby!! I will gladly pay for shipping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 http://www.kombuchatea.co.uk/where-can-i-get-kombucha.asp#cultures hopefully this is the right link Swirl792@... wrote: You have rabbits and I'm dying for just one. Would someone please send me a scoby!! I will gladly pay for shipping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 In a message dated 2/21/2006 10:00:16 AM Eastern Standard Time, solitarygrin@... writes: http://www.kombuchatea.co.uk/where-can-i-get-kombucha.asp#cultures THANK YOU FOR THE INFO AND WEB SITE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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