Re: self contained classrooms

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HI, I was wondering if it is sufficient enough to put up stop signs

on the inside of his classroom door, have signs on the classroom door

to keep door shut, and for other staff to be aware that my son is a

runner, plus having a one on one (even though it is not in writing)

enough to protect a school against due process to get him into

another school that is more aware of a child with autsim. Do I still

have a chance to fight since they will not teach him to be safe?

This is discrimination. Other children are taught safety goals

according to the illinois goals, but he is in a self contained

class. does this mean they are exempt? There are strategies to teach

him but my school outright refuses. Their defense is that my son does

not understand and probably never will? HE CAN BE TAUGHT, and I am

not in denial. The only goal he has for running is to walk

independatly throughout the school building. I go to observe and

even in his classroom they are holding his arm to walk from station

to station. Is this enough or do I have a legitamate fight?. Since

the little things they have put in place is this all they have to

do? There is no documentation of him escaping only what they have

told me and they have denied things before when push comes to shove.

I need help my lawyer has set up a iep meeting and I recieved notice

today. I am panicking. I hate those meetings. thanks Kathy

- In AutismBehaviorProblems , " Dora Lattish "

wrote:

>

> Don't back down from this issue Diane - it is a serious safety

issue.and you

> don't have to let them dictate how it will be handled. The Federal

Law

> mandates that he be provided with a Free & Appropriate Public

Education. I

> doubt ANY judge would consider a physical environment that does not

> accommodate his physical safety to be appropriate. Do NOT be

afraid to take

> them to a hearing on this. The habit of children with Autism to

wander,

> run, or bolt, as well as their inability or extreme difficulty

understanding

> the entire concept of personal danger or safety in ANY respect is

well

> documented in all the basic literature on Autism. They can't chalk

it up to

> misbehavior if he has that diagnosis. If he has Autism and has

documented

> cases of running off (the official term is Elopement, if I recall

correctly)

> then get an IEP meeting set up to discuss this safety issue

specifically.

> First, write a polite letter to the admin stating matter-of-factly

that you

> are requesting an IEP meeting to discuss the issue of physical

safety for

> your son due to his disability's symptom of running away without

> understanding safety issues, and asking what the procedure or

system is

> going to be that will ensure his safety while he learns at that

school.

> They are REQUIRED by law to respond to your letter one way or

another within

> 10 days I believe. If they mess around the issue and give vague

answers or

> a general " don't worry a plan is in place, he'll be safe " .ask to

see the

> plan in writing. If they don't cooperate or the 'plan' isn't

acceptable,

> say so.. " I'm sorry, but this plan is in adequate to ensure the

safety of my

> son while he is a disabled child in your school. " And follow it up

with a

> letter restating that and clarifying their " response " . Keep all

your

> documentation. And if they can't come up with something that

assures you he

> will be safe from this symptom, respectfully state that you'll be

requesting

> a due process hearing to have someone mediate this issue and

determine what

> must be done to keep him safe. That may be the school hiring other

staff or

> making accommodations on campus, or it may end up being a placement

in

> another facility. Just don't back down - it is a HARD fight, I

know, trust

> me. But when they are in Kindy and First/Second grade it is

vital that we

> fight for these needs for them, to give them the best chance in

later years

> where expectations of them will be so much higher.

>

>

>

> An EXCELLENT place to browse and learn about effective ways to

advocate with

> schools is www.wrightslaw.org <http://www.wrightslaw.org/> . One

great

> piece of advice I got from a private school administrator that was

helping

> us advocate, was to buy a copy of the book " Special Education Law "

and just

> take it to the meetings with you, with a few post-it notes flagging

> sections. You won't usually ever have to open it but it sends a

message

> that you either know what the rights are, or you are doing what is

needed to

> find out.

>

>

>

> DON " T GIVE UP!

>

>

>

> Hugs, sister.

>

> Dora in WA State, fighting alongside you.

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From: AutismBehaviorProblems

> [mailto:AutismBehaviorProblems ] On Behalf Of D

LeFort

> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 10:57 AM

> To: AutismBehaviorProblems

> Subject: Re: self contained classrooms

>

>

>

> My son is 5 and getting ready to start kindergarten in a different

building

> than he was in for spec ed preschool. I am tearing my hair out

about it

> because he is a runner and they aren't prepared for it (yet) at

all. The

> building's main door just outside the special ed classroom has

those push

> bars that anyone can easily operate and opens right to a street

area. The

> other day when I visited I saw an older autistic boy alone in the

hall and

> shortly after a para came running frantically out of the special ed

class

> calling his name. Of all things to see on one of my few visits to

the place

> so far! I am freaking out. The autism specialist for the area

said the

> principal is working on a plan. But I don't have high

expectations. If

> they've had that 2nd grader in the school since kindergarten and

still can't

> manage to keep him contained, they probably won't do well enough to

contain

> my much more active little guy. The kid I saw has some physical

> limitations, so he is slower. Mine will be a mile away before they

notice.

> I wish I could home school him. All I do is worry and think how if

they

> lose him he may get hit by a car or drown in some creek. I also

feel if he

> slips out of the class they'll never let me know. They could lose

him every

> other day, even have to call 911 for help, and I don't know if I'd

ever find

> out about it as long as he was found before school let out.

>

> -Diane

>

> Re: self contained classrooms

> > > To: AutismBehaviorProbl

> <mailto:AutismBehaviorProblems%40yahoogroups.com> emsyahoogroups (DOT)

com

> > > Date: Friday, May 9, 2008, 5:12 AM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I know and I am so frusterated. I dont want him to go to a

> mainstream

> > > school even if it is a spec ed diagnostic K to begin with and

> only 12 kids

> > > and 1 teacher and 2 aides. He can get a one on one aide, but I

> just dont

> > > agree that this is going to be good for my son. I dont know

what

> to do,

> > > because the IEP at the special school he was going to, he cant

> stay there

> > > because they say he is high functioning which I say yeah right

> too. And

> > > his IQ was 67, still lower then it should be, but a year ago it

> was 48.

> > > And, to be able to stay where he is, he has to have a 50 or

> lower. I just

> > > dont know what to do. I hate this.

> > >

> > > Stacie B

> > > Aurora IL

> > >

> > >

> > > In a message dated 5/8/2008 9:47:00 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

> > > astrid@astridvanwoe rkom.com <http://rkom.com/> writes:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > they dont do

> > >> diapers so if he is not trained by then, they said if he has a

> BM i will

> > >> have

> > >> to go and change him. I really cant do that so he is a good

> candidate

> > >> for a

> > >> 1 on 1 aide.

> > >

> > > What a ridiculous statement - " we don't do diapers " . Even some

> adults wear

> > > diapers for various physical or cognitive reasons. It's not

fair

> that they

> > > would require five-year-olds with significant developmental

> disabilities

> > > to

> > > be fully potty trained.

> > > Astrid

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[Guest guest]

Gosh, you sound just like me and that is exactly how is. And nobody really understands this till they see him do that. And, I am so afraid he is going to do that in the new school setting since it is not the same as Hope wall, which is all special needs and a special school and he would not be able to get to far. I worry about this so much. I dont know what else to do. I dont agree with moving him to a new school even if it is self contained and for special needs kids only.

Stacie

This is exactly what I tell my school. I am more aware then everyone else and I am always asking even in my house, where my son is. I have told people about my son running but until it happens no one takes me that serious. This is why he has a aide foloowing him around because he has gotten out of the school building many times. I dont want to worry you, but you are his mom you know more than anyone. Dont push aside your mother instinct. kathy> > > > Subject: Re: self contained classrooms> > To: AutismBehaviorProblems > > Date: Friday, May 9, 2008, 5:12 AM> >> >> >> >> >> > I know and I am so frusterated. I dont want him to go to a mainstream > > school even if it is a spec ed diagnostic K to begin with and only 12 kids > > and 1 teacher and 2 aides. He can get a one on one aide, but I just dont > > agree that this is going to be good for my son. I dont know what to do, > > because the IEP at the special school he was going to, he cant stay there > > because they say he is high functioning which I say yeah right too. And > > his IQ was 67, still lower then it should be, but a year ago it was 48. > > And, to be able to stay where he is, he has to have a 50 or lower. I just > > dont know what to do. I hate this.> >> > Stacie B> > Aurora IL> >> >> > In a message dated 5/8/2008 9:47:00 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > astrid@astridvanwoe rkom.com writes:> >> >> >> > they dont do> >> diapers so if he is not trained by then, they said if he has a BM i will> >> have> >> to go and change him. I really cant do that so he is a good candidate> >> for a> >> 1 on 1 aide.> >> > What a ridiculous statement - "we don't do diapers". Even some adults wear> > diapers for various physical or cognitive reasons. It's not fair that they> > would require five-year-olds with significant developmental disabilities > > to> > be fully potty trained.> > Astrid> > astrid@astridvanwoe rkom.com <mailto:astrid%40astridvanwoerkom.com>> > http://www.astridva nwoerkom. com/ <http://www.astridvanwoerkom.com/>> >> > I'm protected by SpamBrave> > http://www.spambrav> > e.com/ <http://www.spambrave.com/>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ----------------> > Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at > > AOL Food <http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001> .> >> > ----------------> > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it > > now. > > <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51733/*http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > > >> > ------------------------------------> >> >

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I know what you are saying Diane. I am worried about this with my son too. He is 5 as well and a runner. One day, we have all the doors at home locked and you need a key to get them open. Well, I turned my back for a second and found the key, got in the kitchen and out the door in a seconds time and when we looked outside, he was in the street, a city bus was stopped 2 feet from him and a truck was coming from the other way. Talk about terrifying. also runs so fast as you can see. And the scariest thing about this is, that when my daughter who was more dressed then I was went out to get him out of the street, he had no fear or anything in his eyes at all. It was so scary.

Stacie B

Aurora IL

My son is 5 and getting ready to start kindergarten in a different building than he was in for spec ed preschool. I am tearing my hair out about it because he is a runner and they aren't prepared for it (yet) at all. The building's main door just outside the special ed classroom has those push bars that anyone can easily operate and opens right to a street area. The other day when I visited I saw an older autistic boy alone in the hall and shortly after a para came running frantically out of the special ed class calling his name. Of all things to see on one of my few visits to the place so far! I am freaking out. The autism specialist for the area said the principal is working on a plan. But I don't have high expectations. If they've had that 2nd grader in the school since kindergarten and still can't manage to keep him contained, they probably won't do well enough to contain my much more active little guy. The kid I saw has some physical limitations, so he is slower. Mine will be a mile away before they notice. I wish I could home school him. All I do is worry and think how if they lose him he may get hit by a car or drown in some creek. I also feel if he slips out of the class they'll never let me know. They could lose him every other day, even have to call 911 for help, and I don't know if I'd ever find out about it as long as he was found before school let out.

-Diane

Re: self contained classrooms> > To: AutismBehaviorProbl emsyahoogroups (DOT) com> > Date: Friday, May 9, 2008, 5:12 AM> >> >> >> >> >> > I know and I am so frusterated. I dont want him to go to a mainstream > > school even if it is a spec ed diagnostic K to begin with and only 12 kids > > and 1 teacher and 2 aides. He can get a one on one aide, but I just dont > > agree that this is going to be good for my son. I dont know what to do, > > because the IEP at the special school he was going to, he cant stay there > > because they say he is high functioning which I say yeah right too. And > > his IQ was 67, still lower then it should be, but a year ago it was 48. > > And, to be able to stay where he is, he has to have a 50 or lower. I just > > dont know what to do. I hate this.> >> > Stacie B> > Aurora IL> >> >> > In a message dated 5/8/2008 9:47:00 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > astrid@astridvanwoe rkom.com writes:> >> >> >> > they dont do> >> diapers so if he is not trained by then, they said if he has a BM i will> >> have> >> to go and change him. I really cant do that so he is a good candidate> >> for a> >> 1 on 1 aide.> >> > What a ridiculous statement - "we don't do diapers". Even some adults wear> > diapers for various physical or cognitive reasons. It's not fair that they> > would require five-year-olds with significant developmental disabilities > > to> > be fully potty trained.> > Astrid> > astrid@astridvanwoe rkom.com <mailto:astrid%40astridvanwoerkom. com>> > http://www.astridva nwoerkom. com/ <http://www.astridva nwoerkom. com/>> >> > I'm protected by SpamBrave> > http://www.spambrav> > e.com/ <http://www.spambrav e.com/>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ------------ ----> > Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at > > AOL Food <http://food. aol.com/dinner- tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000 000001> .> >> > ------------ ----> > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it > > now. > > <http://us.rd. yahoo.com/ evt=51733/ *http://mobile. yahoo.com/ ;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9 tAcJ > > >> > ------------ --------- --------- ------> >> >

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Hi,

I am new to this site, but not new to behavior and autism:) I apology if these questions have been asked but: a) does your child have objectives in his IEP for running behavior? what about a behavior intervention plan? c) functional analysis?

Re: self contained classrooms> > > To: AutismBehaviorProbl> <mailto:AutismBehav

iorProblems% 40yahoogroups. com> emsyahoogroups (DOT) com> > > Date: Friday, May 9, 2008, 5:12 AM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > I know and I am so frusterated. I dont want him to go to a > mainstream > > > school even if it is a spec ed diagnostic K to begin with and > only 12 kids > > > and 1 teacher and 2 aides. He can get a one on one aide, but I > just dont > > > agree that this is going to be good for my son. I dont know what > to do, > > > because the IEP at the special school he was going to, he cant > stay there > > > because they say he is high functioning which I say yeah right > too. And > > > his IQ was 67, still lower then it should be, but a year ago it > was 48. > > > And, to be able to stay where he is,

he has to have a 50 or > lower. I just > > > dont know what to do. I hate this.> > >> > > Stacie B> > > Aurora IL> > >> > >> > > In a message dated 5/8/2008 9:47:00 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > > astrid@astridvanwoe rkom.com <http://rkom. com/> writes:> > >> > >> > >> > > they dont do> > >> diapers so if he is not trained by then, they said if he has a > BM i will> > >> have> > >> to go and change him. I really cant do that so he is a good > candidate> > >> for a> > >> 1 on 1 aide.> > >> > > What a ridiculous statement - "we don't do diapers". Even some >

adults wear> > > diapers for various physical or cognitive reasons. It's not fair > that they> > > would require five-year-olds with significant developmental > disabilities > > > to> > > be fully potty trained.> > > Astrid> > > astrid@astridvanwoe rkom.com <http://rkom. com/> <mailto:astrid%> 40astridvanwoerkom. com>> > > http://www.astridva <http://www.astridva /> nwoerkom. com/ > <http://www.astridva <http://www.astridva nwoerkom. com/> nwoerkom.

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[Guest guest]

HI deborah, The only goal for my sons runing is that he will walk

indepently within the school, and he will keep his hands to himself.

I am told a functional behavior is unnecessary. thanks

-- In AutismBehaviorProblems , Deborah Cureton

wrote:

>

> Hi,

> I am new to this site, but not new to behavior and autism:) I

apology if these questions have been asked but: a) does your child

have objectives in his IEP for running behavior? what about a

behavior intervention plan? c) functional analysis?

>

>

>

> Re: self contained classrooms

> > > > To: AutismBehaviorProbl

> > <mailto:AutismBehav iorProblems% 40yahoogroups. com>

emsyahoogroups (DOT)

> com

> > > > Date: Friday, May 9, 2008, 5:12 AM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I know and I am so frusterated. I dont want him to go to a

> > mainstream

> > > > school even if it is a spec ed diagnostic K to begin with and

> > only 12 kids

> > > > and 1 teacher and 2 aides. He can get a one on one aide, but

I

> > just dont

> > > > agree that this is going to be good for my son. I dont know

> what

> > to do,

> > > > because the IEP at the special school he was going to, he

cant

> > stay there

> > > > because they say he is high functioning which I say yeah

right

> > too. And

> > > > his IQ was 67, still lower then it should be, but a year ago

it

> > was 48.

> > > > And, to be able to stay where he is, he has to have a 50 or

> > lower. I just

> > > > dont know what to do. I hate this.

> > > >

> > > > Stacie B

> > > > Aurora IL

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > In a message dated 5/8/2008 9:47:00 A.M. Pacific Daylight

Time,

> > > > astrid@astridvanwoe rkom.com <http://rkom. com/> writes:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > they dont do

> > > >> diapers so if he is not trained by then, they said if he has

a

> > BM i will

> > > >> have

> > > >> to go and change him. I really cant do that so he is a good

> > candidate

> > > >> for a

> > > >> 1 on 1 aide.

> > > >

> > > > What a ridiculous statement - " we don't do diapers " . Even

some

> > adults wear

> > > > diapers for various physical or cognitive reasons. It's not

> fair

> > that they

> > > > would require five-year-olds with significant developmental

> > disabilities

> > > > to

> > > > be fully potty trained.

> > > > Astrid

> > > > astrid@astridvanwoe rkom.com <http://rkom. com/>

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yep, the $50 dollar word for running is "elopement" and it is a common challenge. I believe that all children can learn and many (most), when utilizing effective, research-based strategies, will make amazing progress. Certainly, walking independently in school and keeping hands to oneself are great objectives. However, I think that running (elopement) should also be addressed. It is a scary and often unpredicatable occurrence.

One strategy, that can easily be used at school and home, is to practice "stop" and "go"with picture cues. This can be fun and ensures that your child actually understands these concepts- for example: the game red light, green light; or running in place- "go, go, go, stop feet"; etc...

Self-contained classrooms are designed to implement individualized education plans. The goal is to provide a free appropriate public education in the least restrictive environment.

Re: self contained

classrooms> > > > To: AutismBehaviorProbl> > <mailto:AutismBehav iorProblems% 40yahoogroups. com> emsyahoogroups (DOT) > com> > > > Date: Friday, May 9, 2008, 5:12 AM> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > I know and I am so frusterated. I dont want him to go to a > > mainstream > > > > school even if it is a spec ed diagnostic K to begin with and > > only 12 kids > > > > and 1 teacher and 2 aides. He can get a one on one aide, but I > > just dont > > > > agree that this is going to be good for my son. I dont know > what > > to do, > > > > because the IEP at the special school he was going to, he cant > > stay there > > > > because they say he is high

functioning which I say yeah right > > too. And > > > > his IQ was 67, still lower then it should be, but a year ago it > > was 48. > > > > And, to be able to stay where he is, he has to have a 50 or > > lower. I just > > > > dont know what to do. I hate this.> > > >> > > > Stacie B> > > > Aurora IL> > > >> > > >> > > > In a message dated 5/8/2008 9:47:00 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > > > astrid@astridvanwoe rkom.com <http://rkom. com/> writes:> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > they dont do> > > >> diapers so if he is not trained by then, they said if he has a >

> BM i will> > > >> have> > > >> to go and change him. I really cant do that so he is a good > > candidate> > > >> for a> > > >> 1 on 1 aide.> > > >> > > > What a ridiculous statement - "we don't do diapers". Even some > > adults wear> > > > diapers for various physical or cognitive reasons. It's not > fair > > that they> > > > would require five-year-olds with significant developmental > > disabilities > > > > to> > > > be fully potty trained.> > > > Astrid> > > > astrid@astridvanwoe rkom.com <http://rkom. com/> <mailto:astrid%> > 40astridvanwoerkom. com>> > >

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i lust wanted to say thats the picture cues do work wounderful and can also help promote language my 5 yr old uses them daily

Lesley Hicks

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self contained classrooms> > > > To: AutismBehaviorProbl> > <mailto:AutismBehav iorProblems% 40yahoogroups. com> emsyahoogroups (DOT) > com> > > > Date: Friday, May 9, 2008, 5:12 AM> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > I know and I am so frusterated. I dont want him to go to a > > mainstream > > > > school even if it is a spec ed diagnostic K to begin with and > > only 12 kids > > > > and 1 teacher and 2 aides. He can get a one on one aide, but I > > just dont > > > > agree that this is going to be good for my son. I dont know > what > > to do, > > > > because the IEP at the special school he was going to, he cant > > stay there > > > > because they say he

is high functioning which I say yeah right > > too. And > > > > his IQ was 67, still lower then it should be, but a year ago it > > was 48. > > > > And, to be able to stay where he is, he has to have a 50 or > > lower. I just > > > > dont know what to do. I hate this.> > > >> > > > Stacie B> > > > Aurora IL> > > >> > > >> > > > In a message dated 5/8/2008 9:47:00 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > > > astrid@astridvanwoe rkom.com <http://rkom. com/> writes:> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > they dont do> > > >> diapers so if he is not trained by then, they said if

he has a > > BM i will> > > >> have> > > >> to go and change him. I really cant do that so he is a good > > candidate> > > >> for a> > > >> 1 on 1 aide.> > > >> > > > What a ridiculous statement - "we don't do diapers". Even some > > adults wear> > > > diapers for various physical or cognitive reasons. It's not > fair > > that they> > > > would require five-year-olds with significant developmental > > disabilities > > > > to> > > > be fully potty trained.> > > > Astrid> > > > astrid@astridvanwoe rkom.com <http://rkom. com/> <mailto:astrid%> >

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for elopement a "stop" training sometimes will work.

Take the child for a walk and at random times say, "stop" and stop walking. If they keep walking stand still until they stop. Keep doing it. Make it like a "do as I do " game. Then when the elopment happens the child may remember the "stop" prompt and want to play the game instead of running away.

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is high functioning which I say yeah right > > too. And > > > > his IQ was 67, still lower then it should be, but a year ago it > > was 48. > > > > And, to be able to stay where he is, he has to have a 50 or > > lower. I just > > > > dont know what to do. I hate this.> > > >> > > > Stacie B> > > > Aurora IL> > > >> > > >> > > > In a message dated 5/8/2008 9:47:00 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > > > astrid@astridvanwoe rkom.com <http://rkom. com/> writes:> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > they dont do> > > >> diapers so if he is not trained by then, they said if

he has a > > BM i will> > > >> have> > > >> to go and change him. I really cant do that so he is a good > > candidate> > > >> for a> > > >> 1 on 1 aide.> > > >> > > > What a ridiculous statement - "we don't do diapers". Even some > > adults wear> > > > diapers for various physical or cognitive reasons. It's not > fair > > that they> > > > would require five-year-olds with significant developmental > > disabilities > > > > to> > > > be fully potty trained.> > > > Astrid> > > > astrid@astridvanwoe rkom.com <http://rkom. com/> <mailto:astrid%> >

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