Guest guest Posted May 30, 2003 Report Share Posted May 30, 2003 Sounds EXACTLY like my son (diagnosed with OCD and Tourette's last year). He is not a hand washer either. But, he exhibits all of the other symptoms you describe...and more. Mostly bad thoughts and feelings...but he also " squeaks " . --Tina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2003 Report Share Posted May 30, 2003 Sounds EXACTLY like my son (diagnosed with OCD and Tourette's last year). He is not a hand washer either. But, he exhibits all of the other symptoms you describe...and more. Mostly bad thoughts and feelings...but he also " squeaks " . --Tina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2003 Report Share Posted May 30, 2003 Hi Zizzi, Your 10 year old daughter sounds just like my ten year old son. He does not have many obvious rituals - but suffers mainly from the voice/thought inside of his head telling him to do things that he does not want to do - and doesn't do. Disorganized....yikes..... it also is what keeps him from the higher grades. And yes, when frustrated with homework etc. the paper gets crunched up into a ball and tossed with frustrating crys. I dread homework time. If he loses something of value (like a yugio card) he panics and starts crying and there is no peace in the house until he finds it. These children also seem to be very sensitive. loves his family and even talks about his great grandparents who are in an old age home and how much he loves them. He takes great pride in making home made sentimental cards for the family - but when he is frustrated look out - his sensitivity turns to CRANKY and the whole house feels it and the mood can change for all of us in an instant. It is amazing how many common demonators there are with our OCD children. Her symptoms sound pretty familiar. I wouldn't doubt it if has ADD as well. Is she on any meds (SSRI's) at all ? Kathry, (10), OCD, Vancouver, BC zizzakiffee wrote: I have already been told my 10 year old Daughter has A.D.D. and tourettes syndrome...but now there is some wonder if she had O.C.D. Some of her symptoms are typical of O.C.D. but others that most of you discuss are not there. My daughter is not a frequent hand washer in fact I have to keep on her about washing her hands at all. she does however stress over any task she is trying to achieve, like drawing her pictures. She gets so frustrated if it is'nt just perfect to the point of scribbling it out and wadding it up, while having a tantrum about it. She always talks about having a bad day before the day even happens. she has allot of fears. she has allot of thaughts that worry her. One time while riding in the back seat of the car with me driving and the windows down she suddenly and bluntly requested that I roll up the window near her " FAST " . When I asked why she said, in frustration " I keep thinking of throwing my toy out the window and I am going to do it. another time she had told me that the voice in her mind was telling her someting (and I cant recall what it was) I asked her if she was hearing voices and she said that " It is actually just a thaught but it seems like a voice " . Although intelligent,My daughter is very disorganized and is constantly forgetting to turn in her homework, homework that should have only taken about 30 minutes to do but ended up taking 1 hour and 30 minutes to do with the chaos and all... I remind her constantly that the only thing keeping her from good grades was turning in her homework assignments. She claims that she really wants to remember to turn them in and she wants to get good grades but she " just cant help it " , she " just can't stop forgetting " . I believe her. Does this sound farmilliar to anyone? Thanks for reading and any response. Zizzi Our list archives, bookmarks, files, and chat feature may be accessed at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group// . Our list advisors are Gail B. , Ed.D., Tamar Chansky, Ph.D., Aureen Pinto Wagner, Ph.D., and Dan Geller, M.D. Our list moderators are Birkhan, Chris Castle, Fowler, Kathy Hammes, Joye, Kathy Mac, Gail Pesses, Kathy , Vivian Stembridge, and Jackie Stout. Subscription issues or suggestions may be addressed to Louis Harkins, list owner, at louisharkins@... , louisharkins@... , louisharkins@... . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2003 Report Share Posted May 31, 2003 Hi, Zizzi. Yes, a lot of what you wrote sounds familiar to me. I have two daughters with OCD and one of them is a hand washer and the other one isn't. OCD isn't just about compulsive cleanliness--in fact, it's been my experience that it is far from being a " tidy " disorder! My youngest daughter, , has " voices " too and she describes them as " loud thoughts. " She really suffered from bad thoughts but is doing much better now. She has been in treatment for over two years now and with medication and therapy, she is showing a lot of progress. She is very disorganized still but we are working on that! I would definitely look into the OCD connection with your daughter. So many of these disorders are related, it seems. There is another mom on this site with a child with ADHD, Tourettes, and OCD. She might have good insight for you. Good luck! Kelley in NV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2003 Report Share Posted May 31, 2003 Hi Zizzi yes everything you've written about your daughter is or has been true of mine, 9, whose dx is OCD +tics. My daughter is not a handwasher either and has not so far had any OCD concerns about contamination or dirtiness. She even had the same compulsion about throwing toys from the car window! Another thing that may point to some OCD in her is her Tourette's dx, since many kids with one or the other of these diagnoses have at least some symptoms of the other, and sometimes sufficient symptoms to qualify for both diagnoses. Does your daughter take any medication for the Tourette's or ADD? I ask because those types of meds can bring out or worsen OCD-type symptoms. (The reverse is true too, the SSRIs used to treat OCD can " unmask " or worsen tics and/or Tourette's, and ADD.) I am so curious, what is Rhiannonm? Take care, Kathy R. in Indiana ----- Original Message ----- From: zizzakiffee I have already been told my 10 year old Daughter has A.D.D. and tourettes syndrome...but now there is some wonder if she had O.C.D. Some of her symptoms are typical of O.C.D. but others that most of you discuss are not there. My daughter is not a frequent hand washer in fact I have to keep on her about washing her hands at all. she does however stress over any task she is trying to achieve, like drawing her pictures. She gets so frustrated if it is'nt just perfect to the point of scribbling it out and wadding it up, while having a tantrum about it. She always talks about having a bad day before the day even happens. she has allot of fears. she has allot of thaughts that worry her. One time while riding in the back seat of the car with me driving and the windows down she suddenly and bluntly requested that I roll up the window near her " FAST " . When I asked why she said, in frustration " I keep thinking of throwing my toy out the window and I am going to do it. another time she had told me that the voice in her mind was telling her someting (and I cant recall what it was) I asked her if she was hearing voices and she said that " It is actually just a thaught but it seems like a voice " . Although intelligent,My daughter is very disorganized and is constantly forgetting to turn in her homework, homework that should have only taken about 30 minutes to do but ended up taking 1 hour and 30 minutes to do with the chaos and all... I remind her constantly that the only thing keeping her from good grades was turning in her homework assignments. She claims that she really wants to remember to turn them in and she wants to get good grades but she " just cant help it " , she " just can't stop forgetting " . I believe her. Does this sound farmilliar to anyone? Thanks for reading and any response. Zizzi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2003 Report Share Posted May 31, 2003 Hi Guys-Ditto to everything you said-but my ts,add,ocd daughter also does the most amazing tree-frog trill ever!!!! Best to all, Sue -- --------- Original Message --------- DATE: Fri, 30 May 2003 20:43:14 To: < > Cc: Sounds EXACTLY like my son (diagnosed with OCD and Tourette's last year). He is not a hand washer either. But, he exhibits all of the other symptoms you describe...and more. Mostly bad thoughts and feelings...but he also " squeaks " . --Tina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2003 Report Share Posted May 31, 2003 > Hi Guys-Ditto to everything you said-but my ts,add,ocd daughter also does the most amazing tree-frog trill ever!!!! Best to all, Sue > -- Trade ya. My son does the most eardrum shattering, high pitched screech-owl tic. ;-) --Tina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2003 Report Share Posted May 31, 2003 OUCH!!!!Do the owls answer back? Our treefrogs do!!!!! lol-Sue -- --------- Original Message --------- DATE: Sat, 31 May 2003 23:37:05 To: < > Cc: > Hi Guys-Ditto to everything you said-but my ts,add,ocd daughter also does the most amazing tree-frog trill ever!!!! Best to all, Sue > -- Trade ya. My son does the most eardrum shattering, high pitched screech-owl tic. ;-) --Tina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2003 Report Share Posted June 1, 2003 Dear Zizzi, I'm way behind on reading these posts, and I know you've heard many responses already - but allow me to say that you have described my ten year old daughter Annie exactly. She has OCD/ ADHD/ TS. She has gotten the OCD under control for the most part through medication and exposure and response prevention therapy. The TS has been a problem this spring, after being just barely noticeable until now. So now she is on Clonidine for the tics and that is better. The real bear for us has been the ADHD and the school work problems - just as you describe. If she gets something done, she doesn't turn it in. Half of her papers are disastrous, the others perfect (she gets A's and F's - almost never anything in between - which makes her teachers think she is just being lazy). Adding Clonidine to her other meds this spring made an enormous difference in her school work - I know they sometimes use it for ADHD and now I see why. Your daughter's descriptions of her thoughts sound very much like OCD to me - especially the car window one. But really, in my humble opinion, OCD is sometimes easier to treat than what you have already been dealing with!! It is late here, and Annie is refusing to go to bed so I need to go - but keep in touch and tell us how things go with your daughter! in NV, mom to Annie (10) with OCD/ ADHD/ TS on Celexa, Concerta, Risperdal and Clonidine... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2003 Report Share Posted June 4, 2003 Rhiannon is quite talented at vocally imitating various pokemon. -- In , " carolyn sue millspaugh " <buddy12771@l...> wrote: > OUCH!!!!Do the owls answer back? Our treefrogs do!!!!! lol-Sue > -- > > --------- Original Message --------- > DATE: Sat, 31 May 2003 23:37:05 > From: " Tina - AffordableHOST.com " <tpeters@a...> > To: < > > Cc: > > > > > Hi Guys-Ditto to everything you said-but my ts,add,ocd daughter also does > the most amazing tree-frog trill ever!!!! Best to all, Sue > > -- > > > Trade ya. My son does the most eardrum shattering, high pitched screech-owl > tic. ;-) > > --Tina > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2003 Report Share Posted June 5, 2003 Ugh...I hope its not that stupid Pikachu one. My son did that one for about 6 months a couple of years back. BTW - just suddenly started doing some other tics, within the last week. He now repeats words " I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry...SQEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAK. " I know that repeating words is typical of OCD/Tourette's...but why all of a sudden would he start, after never doing it before?? --Tina > Rhiannon is quite talented at vocally imitating various pokemon. > > > > -- In , " carolyn sue millspaugh " > <buddy12771@l...> wrote: > > OUCH!!!!Do the owls answer back? Our treefrogs do!!!!! lol-Sue > > -- > > > > --------- Original Message --------- > > DATE: Sat, 31 May 2003 23:37:05 > > From: " Tina - AffordableHOST.com " <tpeters@a...> > > To: < > > > Cc: > > > > > > > > > Hi Guys-Ditto to everything you said-but my ts,add,ocd daughter > also does > > the most amazing tree-frog trill ever!!!! Best to all, Sue > > > -- > > > > > > Trade ya. My son does the most eardrum shattering, high pitched > screech-owl > > tic. ;-) > > > > --Tina > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2003 Report Share Posted June 5, 2003 ugh! is right!!!lol.If I had a nickel for every " I`m sorry,I`m sorry,I`m sorry " brrrrrrrrroooop!!!!we could all retire to Maui........also silently mouths the words while you are speaking and that drives me nuts too........ " sigh " .........Sue -- --------- Original Message --------- DATE: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 06:51:09 To: < > Cc: Ugh...I hope its not that stupid Pikachu one. My son did that one for about 6 months a couple of years back. BTW - just suddenly started doing some other tics, within the last week. He now repeats words " I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry...SQEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAK. " I know that repeating words is typical of OCD/Tourette's...but why all of a sudden would he start, after never doing it before?? --Tina > Rhiannon is quite talented at vocally imitating various pokemon. > > > > -- In , " carolyn sue millspaugh " > <buddy12771@l...> wrote: > > OUCH!!!!Do the owls answer back? Our treefrogs do!!!!! lol-Sue > > -- > > > > --------- Original Message --------- > > DATE: Sat, 31 May 2003 23:37:05 > > From: " Tina - AffordableHOST.com " <tpeters@a...> > > To: < > > > Cc: > > > > > > > > > Hi Guys-Ditto to everything you said-but my ts,add,ocd daughter > also does > > the most amazing tree-frog trill ever!!!! Best to all, Sue > > > -- > > > > > > Trade ya. My son does the most eardrum shattering, high pitched > screech-owl > > tic. ;-) > > > > --Tina > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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