RE: Re: MMS recall

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Which personally I am surprised it took so long, why. It

Works!

It works sometimes...only sometimes. They are

clamping down because of the wild claims made to its fame. It worked

before ole jim 'discovered, invented' it...was sold by distributors for human consumption

for over 20 years. No one had any problems with SC until ole Jim started

making wild ass claims.

Jim may be keeping a very low profile right now.

He hangs out in countries where they don't care.

Yeah, prob keeping a very low profile living off the profits from book and dvd

sales. Interesting we only have a few pics of him in the jungle. You'd

think with all the ‘he's treated thousands’, others have treated

thousands there would be more than just a couple of obviously photoshopped

photos on the net. Why hasn't a film crew been following him around and

getting this out on the net? Not his folksy talks, but the ‘in the

bush’ treating thousands? Why not photoshoots of him treating the

what...thousands in the prisons. Those prisons were reportedly grateful

for his presence...where are the photo ops? Not to mention he supposedly

treated more prisoners than there were in the prisons.

Perhaps the next marijuana law will be passed only this

time the drug will be called chlorine dioxide, sodium chlorite, and calcium

hypochlorite.

Oh get real...what is this fascination with fear

mongering?

rose

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Isn't this why Jim has moved to Mexico? They don't have such infringements of

human rights there I guess. At least, not for this sort of thing. dee

On 17 Aug 2010, at 21:16, healinghope wrote:

> The FDA has stepped in and putting pressure on distributors of MMS, perhaps.

The FDA has issued a warning about the use of MMS. Which personally I am

surprised it took so long, why. It Works! Jim may be keeping a very low profile

right now. Perhaps the next marijuana law will be passed only this time the drug

will be called chlorine dioxide, sodium chlorite, and calcium hypochlorite.

Another run from the cure campaign!

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> --- In , " judith660 " <gold4k@...>

wrote:

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>> Nothing about this is on Jim's website.

>> What is going on?

>> Judith

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Hi zapping fool

forrest has the article on his website talking about MMS..but he does not have a clue what

he is talking about..In th article he mentions sodium chlorite and when he looks at the issues he is

talking about Sodium CHLORATE. This is two different chemicals and there is no comparison..

MMS is sodium Chlorite when acidfied becomes chlorine Dioxide and that is what MMS is.

All of the data on his website refers to sodium chlorate which is certainly dangerous to consume

and is poison.....why don't you get your facts straight before you put this Mis truths on your web site

You are not doing yourself much good..It seems that you must have an hatred for MMS as you are trying

to misinform the public..First you need to know what you are talking about..I bought a rife machine from you

years ago and according to you it was the best thing since sliced bread..Not long ago I saw one of your

posts wher you said Rife Machines do not work so you stopped selling them..Can I return the machine

you sold me and get my money back..If you can't provide accurate information it is not good..

I have been a fan of yours for a long time but ...I think you are losing it..

Alvin Rose

Re: MMS recall

Let's see if I get this? The article says that MMS is dangerous because its similar to another chemical that they go on to cite the dangers of. And then they can only come up with one MMS related injury to prove the claim. And the FDA is involved. Too bad the FDA wasn't so adament about drugs that literally kill thousands. There is nothing credible in this post from what I can see. >> look at http://www.dragonfly75.com/eng/MMS.html and you will see why this product is dangerous>

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Isn't this why Jim has moved to Mexico? They don't have such infringements

of human rights there I guess. At least, not for this sort of thing. Dee

By moving to DR Jim could make all the wild claims he wanted which increased

the sale of his book and dvd and any 'donations' from grateful 'approved'

sellers of MMS...these wild claims would eventually bring on the hounds at

the FDA, that had previously not been concerned with sales of SC, had been

going on for over 20 years.

The point that keeps being missed is SC was sold easily. I bought from a

distributor who had been selling it for over 20 years, and sending it to

Africa. It was not until ole Jim started his MIRACLE CURE, ALL DISEASE,

BABIES, CHILDREN, PREGNANT WOMEN...that the FDA even took notice. SC has

been used in oral hygiene for decades and was...emphasis, was, considered

acceptable and non controversial until ole Jim started waving his flag with

his trumped up resume and erroneous claims of treating hundreds of thousands

CURED, his extreme dosage recommendations and that he alone had the solution

to all the disease in the world...Big Pharma was out to get him...blah blah

blah blah blah. He has created a major headache for suppliers that never

had the headache before. He has promoted unsafe usage of the product. He

has made a small fortune on this whole thing, regardless of what he says,

and that small fortune goes a long way in third world countries where cost

of living is much lower and he's not paying taxes on his 'donations'.

Grapevine rumors are that several key upper level ppl have left Jim's

organization bc the answers he gives to their questions are not

satisfactory. He has formed a church under the umbrella of a bigger church

that has so many dubious issues too many to list. He is offering training

seminars to the tune of 1500. Think about it, how hard is it to learn 'this

many drops'. Here is the course curriculum...

Chemistry of 28% Chlorine Dioxide solution

.. Sourcing of MMS chemicals

.. Home manufacture

.. Basic first aid and diagnosis

.. How to make money selling MMS

.. Running an MMS help desk-or not

.. Working in remote areas: strategies for communication and

protection

.. Training in remote areas

.. Legal and FDA considerations

.. Problems with foreign health departments and permissions

.. How MMS attacks different pathogens in the body

.. The evolution of MMS protocols

.. Successful stories with different diseases

.. Practical applications of MMS for water purification

.. Health ministers training

..MMS2

..New protocols

..Question and answers

Original price

The next course is Aug. 9th -13th (Theory) $750.00

The second week is practical. (Aug. 16th -19th) ( You will have the option

of applying the theories learned in either the Dominican Republic or Haiti.

$250.00

And now price

DR Training week one ------------------------- -----------------$1,000

DR Training Week two includes DR. MMS Cert. ------$500

DVD complete MMS Training (from two seminars) -- you get all certificates

except Doctor (for which you must come to DR and treat villagers in a third

world country) -- $350

Genesis 2 Church Membership with ID card -----------$20

I am still baffled that this is not obvious to everyone they are being

fleeced. I am still baffled that it is not obvious to everyone that the

problems we are having with the FDA are caused by ole Jim. I am still

baffled that it is not obvious to everyone that MMS does not cure 98% of all

disease and is completely safe.

Ah well, don't worry about ole Jim. He has a lovely place in the DR so

he'll be just fine. He may be loosing his claim to fame but he has a nice

place to live out his days and you can bet plenty of cash in reserve. I did

notice that the 'have Jim's personal attention to your case' offering at the

seminars was not offered. Guess there were not too many takers for the

price...400$ a day with a 3 day min. that would amount to, in addition to

course cost, and additional 1200$ for his personal recommendations.

The way to make a huge profit fast is to do this exactly as it has been

done., this is mass marketing at its finest..create a lot of false claims

and tag on the FDA etc are out to get me, might even try to kill me. since

ppl in the alternative protocol group inherently mistrust govt agencies it

is a good way into the group, rapid identification with Jim, and all normal

rational thought processes go out the window. You have been hooked. You

don't even see the hook. There is this folksy old guy with the cool hat and

friendly smile who started out as just a simple prospector in the jungle to

launching rockets with Nasa, inventing the garage door opener (might want to

inform the original inventor about that) designing systems for IBM to name

just a few. All he had to do was get his foot in the door then all the

other BS that followed was ignored or just not seen...GROW BREAST WITH MMS.

Can't say there is a lot of rational thinking there. Somewhere in all of

this we have to see our own sheepledom...or not. but don't look at the rest

of the population snickering sheeple without acknowledging your own bah bah

black sheep nature.

Sheesh...being fleeced folks. Is that not obvious?

Rose

Btw Alvin...you do not have permission to cross post this to Jim or anyone

else. If Jim wants to read anything I have posted he can join this list.

REPEAT...NO PERMISSION TO FORWARD OR CROSS POST...GET IT???

Not to imply that Alvin has done this with my post but he is taking liberty

with others post here and elsewhere. Not to imply that Tom gives a wit

about crossposting. Not to imply that I have anything to hide in what I say

about ole Jim. Jim is a big boy and can join this forum, or others, like

anyone else. This childish 'I sent your post to Jim' is just stupid,

that's all.

Just saying not everyone is appreciative of this run to daddy mentality.

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I've never taken it, but I am skeptical of the FDA's actions. Maybe I'm just overly paranoid about government.Anyway, many people have reported positive effects. So it would seem that the positive outweigh the negative. There are many poisonous herbs that can be used as medicine, provided one has the dosage correct for a particular biological profile. Some people are allergic to stuff while others are not; does that make it universally bad?  In the FDA actions, I smell a rat.

Olushola

[Guest guest]

Jims a great man folks. The FDA can't hound jim, because all the hounds are here if you know what I mean.

.. RE: [ ] Re: MMS recall

Isn't this why Jim has moved to Mexico? They don't have such infringementsof human rights there I guess. At least, not for this sort of thing. DeeBy moving to DR Jim could make all the wild claims he wanted which increasedthe sale of his book and dvd and any 'donations' from grateful 'approved'sellers of MMS...these wild claims would eventually bring on the hounds atthe FDA, that had previously not been concerned with sales of SC, had beengoing on for over 20 years.The point that keeps being missed is SC was sold easily. I bought from adistributor who had been selling it for over 20 years, and sending it toAfrica. It was not until ole Jim started his MIRACLE CURE, ALL DISEASE,BABIES, CHILDREN, PREGNANT WOMEN...that the FDA even took notice. SC hasbeen used in oral hygiene for decades and was...emphasis, was, consideredacceptable and non controversial until ole Jim started waving his flag withhis trumped up resume and erroneous claims of treating hundreds of thousandsCURED, his extreme dosage recommendations and that he alone had the solutionto all the disease in the world...Big Pharma was out to get him...blah blahblah blah blah. He has created a major headache for suppliers that neverhad the headache before. He has promoted unsafe usage of the product. Hehas made a small fortune on this whole thing, regardless of what he says,and that small fortune goes a long way in third world countries where costof living is much lower and he's not paying taxes on his 'donations'.Grapevine rumors are that several key upper level ppl have left Jim'sorganization bc the answers he gives to their questions are notsatisfactory. He has formed a church under the umbrella of a bigger churchthat has so many dubious issues too many to list. He is offering trainingseminars to the tune of 1500. Think about it, how hard is it to learn 'thismany drops'. Here is the course curriculum...Chemistry of 28% Chlorine Dioxide solution. Sourcing of MMS chemicals . Home manufacture. Basic first aid and diagnosis. How to make money selling MMS. Running an MMS help desk-or not. Working in remote areas: strategies for communication andprotection. Training in remote areas. Legal and FDA considerations. Problems with foreign health departments and permissions. How MMS attacks different pathogens in the body. The evolution of MMS protocols. Successful stories with different diseases. Practical applications of MMS for water purification. Health ministers training.MMS2.New protocols.Question and answersOriginal priceThe next course is Aug. 9th -13th (Theory) $750.00The second week is practical. (Aug. 16th -19th) ( You will have the optionof applying the theories learned in either the Dominican Republic or Haiti.$250.00And now priceDR Training week one ------------------------- -----------------$1,000DR Training Week two includes DR. MMS Cert. ------$500DVD complete MMS Training (from two seminars) -- you get all certificatesexcept Doctor (for which you must come to DR and treat villagers in a thirdworld country) -- $350Genesis 2 Church Membership with ID card -----------$20I am still baffled that this is not obvious to everyone they are beingfleeced. I am still baffled that it is not obvious to everyone that theproblems we are having with the FDA are caused by ole Jim. I am stillbaffled that it is not obvious to everyone that MMS does not cure 98% of alldisease and is completely safe.Ah well, don't worry about ole Jim. He has a lovely place in the DR sohe'll be just fine. He may be loosing his claim to fame but he has a niceplace to live out his days and you can bet plenty of cash in reserve. I didnotice that the 'have Jim's personal attention to your case' offering at theseminars was not offered. Guess there were not too many takers for theprice...400$ a day with a 3 day min. that would amount to, in addition tocourse cost, and additional 1200$ for his personal recommendations.The way to make a huge profit fast is to do this exactly as it has beendone., this is mass marketing at its finest..create a lot of false claimsand tag on the FDA etc are out to get me, might even try to kill me. sinceppl in the alternative protocol group inherently mistrust govt agencies itis a good way into the group, rapid identification with Jim, and all normalrational thought processes go out the window. You have been hooked. Youdon't even see the hook. There is this folksy old guy with the cool hat andfriendly smile who started out as just a simple prospector in the jungle tolaunching rockets with Nasa, inventing the garage door opener (might want toinform the original inventor about that) designing systems for IBM to namejust a few. All he had to do was get his foot in the door then all theother BS that followed was ignored or just not seen...GROW BREAST WITH MMS.Can't say there is a lot of rational thinking there. Somewhere in all ofthis we have to see our own sheepledom...or not. but don't look at the restof the population snickering sheeple without acknowledging your own bah bahblack sheep nature.Sheesh...being fleeced folks. Is that not obvious?RoseBtw Alvin...you do not have permission to cross post this to Jim or anyoneelse. If Jim wants to read anything I have posted he can join this list.REPEAT...NO PERMISSION TO FORWARD OR CROSS POST...GET IT???Not to imply that Alvin has done this with my post but he is taking libertywith others post here and elsewhere. Not to imply that Tom gives a witabout crossposting. Not to imply that I have anything to hide in what I sayabout ole Jim. Jim is a big boy and can join this forum, or others, likeanyone else. This childish 'I sent your post to Jim' is just stupid,that's all.Just saying not everyone is appreciative of this run to daddy mentality.