Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Although the Post et al has tremedous merit. I want to address 2 things. Herbal chelation was left out (as was blood test monitoring for pre-existing need for supplemetation) I can only speak to Ravi's case. (side note- DMSA is a 20,000 dollar a yr average cost treatment Told this by a parent that used it) Herbal chelation and supplementation is about 400.00 per month if one includes food that is gluten free) Ravi tests positive for sensitivity to milk and becomes physically manic (seen independantly) with Gluten. All that being said the active agent in herbal chelation is cilantro with binds naturally with mercury and is expelled naturally by the body. What you are describing is the convience methods of detox(High risk- but back in the hands of doctors) My method- or rather what I have done is like eating food, and yes i have seen improvement in Ravi. He was highly constipated and gassy before the dietary intervention because his body was unable to process typical foods (gluten) One might remember that GMO's were being widly used by the time Ravi was born in 2000. GMO's may well be the reason for so many allergies in children and adults that they never had before. We are on the cusp of having cloned milk approved by the FDA while in my opinion we haven't fully explored or gotten over the trouble with the last altered foods. I know many find my ideas extreme but, It is my opinion that the advent of cereal grain modification as well as increased mercury in the environment, has led to a miriad of maladies in the human organism. The money hounds are not done yet. All the medications that are being used to supress symptoms, will cut the population in half yet. Wether it be by suicide, increased complications of typically minor conditions, heart disease, or increased inability to procreate. we are being manipulated for profit, perhaps not intentionally(as in to wipe out a group) but greed have overtaken sense and in a real way: again in my opinion, we are in serious danger. I expect there will be a real crisis and a significant portion of the world population will die off. (I have no idea of time frame but perhaps within or just after our lives are over). The funny thing to me is how many of us have stated the same but seem to resist the continued signs. In any case anyone that has read this far gets the gist. (Ravi continues to become far more aware than he was and I am a believer that the removal of irritants in his system is the credit for this. we can argue the details but anyone that witnesses the changes I have cannot help but believe. I think the real culprit is desperation promoted by media. the medical community tried to take my child with a scalpel, and my neighbors and extended family agreed. ravi to date suffers less sickness than his peers(colds flu etc) has not required any antibiotic or been ever sick since 2003. To me this indicates that our food is weakening us. ravi does eat out (chicken and rice) he does eat " junk foods " corn chips doughnuts. He simply doesn't eat wheat, or dairy and yet he is even healthy when exposed to children with the Flu. anyway those are my own ideas and experiences, not many are willing to go through the effort and time. mimi --- In FAMSecretSociety , > Chelation > > Introduction > > Chelation, also known as detoxification, is a highly controversial > and potentially dangerous intervention which involves using one or > more chemicals to correct the chemical balance in the bodies of > individuals with autism. > > Opinion > > There is currently no scientifically valid and reliable evidence to > show that chelation is effective in the treatment of people with > autism. > > > Chelating agents > > There is a wide range of different chelating agents, each of which > has different properties – such as effectiveness and side effects. > They include > > Alpha lipoic acid > Cysteine, aka Cystin > DMSA, aka succimer or Chemet > DMPS, aka 2,3-Dimercapto-1-propanesulfonic acid > EDTA, aka ethylene-diamine-tetra-acetic acid > NAC, aka N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine > NDF, aka Nannocolloidal Detox Factors > TTFD, aka Thiamine Tetrahydrofurfuryl Disulfide > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Although the Post et al has tremedous merit. I want to address 2 things. Herbal chelation was left out (as was blood test monitoring for pre-existing need for supplemetation) I can only speak to Ravi's case. (side note- DMSA is a 20,000 dollar a yr average cost treatment Told this by a parent that used it) Herbal chelation and supplementation is about 400.00 per month if one includes food that is gluten free) Ravi tests positive for sensitivity to milk and becomes physically manic (seen independantly) with Gluten. All that being said the active agent in herbal chelation is cilantro with binds naturally with mercury and is expelled naturally by the body. What you are describing is the convience methods of detox(High risk- but back in the hands of doctors) My method- or rather what I have done is like eating food, and yes i have seen improvement in Ravi. He was highly constipated and gassy before the dietary intervention because his body was unable to process typical foods (gluten) One might remember that GMO's were being widly used by the time Ravi was born in 2000. GMO's may well be the reason for so many allergies in children and adults that they never had before. We are on the cusp of having cloned milk approved by the FDA while in my opinion we haven't fully explored or gotten over the trouble with the last altered foods. I know many find my ideas extreme but, It is my opinion that the advent of cereal grain modification as well as increased mercury in the environment, has led to a miriad of maladies in the human organism. The money hounds are not done yet. All the medications that are being used to supress symptoms, will cut the population in half yet. Wether it be by suicide, increased complications of typically minor conditions, heart disease, or increased inability to procreate. we are being manipulated for profit, perhaps not intentionally(as in to wipe out a group) but greed have overtaken sense and in a real way: again in my opinion, we are in serious danger. I expect there will be a real crisis and a significant portion of the world population will die off. (I have no idea of time frame but perhaps within or just after our lives are over). The funny thing to me is how many of us have stated the same but seem to resist the continued signs. In any case anyone that has read this far gets the gist. (Ravi continues to become far more aware than he was and I am a believer that the removal of irritants in his system is the credit for this. we can argue the details but anyone that witnesses the changes I have cannot help but believe. I think the real culprit is desperation promoted by media. the medical community tried to take my child with a scalpel, and my neighbors and extended family agreed. ravi to date suffers less sickness than his peers(colds flu etc) has not required any antibiotic or been ever sick since 2003. To me this indicates that our food is weakening us. ravi does eat out (chicken and rice) he does eat " junk foods " corn chips doughnuts. He simply doesn't eat wheat, or dairy and yet he is even healthy when exposed to children with the Flu. anyway those are my own ideas and experiences, not many are willing to go through the effort and time. mimi --- In FAMSecretSociety , > Chelation > > Introduction > > Chelation, also known as detoxification, is a highly controversial > and potentially dangerous intervention which involves using one or > more chemicals to correct the chemical balance in the bodies of > individuals with autism. > > Opinion > > There is currently no scientifically valid and reliable evidence to > show that chelation is effective in the treatment of people with > autism. > > > Chelating agents > > There is a wide range of different chelating agents, each of which > has different properties – such as effectiveness and side effects. > They include > > Alpha lipoic acid > Cysteine, aka Cystin > DMSA, aka succimer or Chemet > DMPS, aka 2,3-Dimercapto-1-propanesulfonic acid > EDTA, aka ethylene-diamine-tetra-acetic acid > NAC, aka N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine > NDF, aka Nannocolloidal Detox Factors > TTFD, aka Thiamine Tetrahydrofurfuryl Disulfide > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 note to my last post. in reality unless your child has hit you in the face with batteries in his sleep while rolling around on the floor at night than trying to exit the house from a second story window by day it may be hard for one to have a frame of reference. Ravi did these things without awareness of them, while i was right there every minute of everyday. I never left his side. i ate slept and bathed with him unsure if his unknowing actions would cause harm to himself or others. I protected him, and chelation was a thing i tried (herbal not invasive) but the result was awareness. that my friends isn't autism that was imposed on his body by any environmental factor that one fancy's. I don't care all i really care about is that he doesn't run into the street any more because cars having the right of way seems to him unfair. everything is degrees and commitment desire, ability, loyalty. not everything is wrong because it sounds similar. some things are ok if one doesn't sacrifice the cild to heal them. ravi is proof of that. nothing more nothing less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 " I know many find my ideas extreme... " I don't think they are in particular. You appear to care and I guess that is rather rare, so some may consider that extreme, I don't. " ...not many are willing to go through the effort and time. " I know of others that have, but for some there are little benefits. If a child or person is allergic/intolerant/sensitive to certain foods/substances then to cut those that cause the problem/s out makes sound sense. > > Although the Post et al has tremedous merit. I want to address 2 > things. Herbal chelation was left out (as was blood test monitoring > for pre-existing need for supplemetation) I can only speak to Ravi's > case. (side note- DMSA is a 20,000 dollar a yr average cost > treatment Told this by a parent that used it) Herbal chelation and > supplementation is about 400.00 per month if one includes food that > is gluten free) Ravi tests positive for sensitivity to milk and > becomes physically manic (seen independantly) with Gluten. All that > being said the active agent in herbal chelation is cilantro with > binds naturally with mercury and is expelled naturally by the body. > What you are describing is the convience methods of detox(High risk- > but back in the hands of doctors) My method- or rather what I have > done is like eating food, and yes i have seen improvement in Ravi. > He was highly constipated and gassy before the dietary intervention > because his body was unable to process typical foods (gluten) One > might remember that GMO's were being widly used by the time Ravi was > born in 2000. GMO's may well be the reason for so many allergies in > children and adults that they never had before. We are on the cusp > of having cloned milk approved by the FDA while in my opinion we > haven't fully explored or gotten over the trouble with the last > altered foods. > > I know many find my ideas extreme but, It is my opinion that the > advent of cereal grain modification as well as increased mercury in > the environment, has led to a miriad of maladies in the human > organism. The money hounds are not done yet. All the medications > that are being used to supress symptoms, will cut the population in > half yet. Wether it be by suicide, increased complications of > typically minor conditions, heart disease, or increased inability to > procreate. we are being manipulated for profit, perhaps not > intentionally(as in to wipe out a group) but greed have overtaken > sense and in a real way: again in my opinion, we are in serious > danger. > > I expect there will be a real crisis and a significant portion of the > world population will die off. (I have no idea of time frame but > perhaps within or just after our lives are over). The funny thing to > me is how many of us have stated the same but seem to resist the > continued signs. > > In any case anyone that has read this far gets the gist. (Ravi > continues to become far more aware than he was and I am a believer > that the removal of irritants in his system is the credit for this. > we can argue the details but anyone that witnesses the changes I have > cannot help but believe. I think the real culprit is desperation > promoted by media. the medical community tried to take my child with > a scalpel, and my neighbors and extended family agreed. ravi to date > suffers less sickness than his peers(colds flu etc) has not required > any antibiotic or been ever sick since 2003. To me this indicates > that our food is weakening us. ravi does eat out (chicken and rice) > he does eat " junk foods " corn chips doughnuts. He simply doesn't eat > wheat, or dairy and yet he is even healthy when exposed to children > with the Flu. anyway those are my own ideas and experiences, not > many are willing to go through the effort and time. mimi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Hi, You may find more feed back on the yahoo groups that is for parents that are doing chelation. Take Care!! A.Simon, "I know God promises not to give me more than I can handle. I just wish he didn't trust me so much."-Mother Subject: ChelationTo: autism-georgia Date: Wednesday, April 22, 2009, 9:51 AM Hi,I was just wondering if anyone has had any experiences with Chelation, either positive OR negative. I have a phone consult with my son's DAN! biomed dr. this afternoon at 2:00 to do a 3 month follow up, and I know that the discussion of trying chelation will be coming up. I have done a bunch of research on it, and am really confused if we should try it or not...in fact, I haven't been able to sleep lately because I am so confused. My son is 2 1/2 years old and non-verbal (makes some sounds, but no real words), but is doing EXTREMELY well on the GFCFSF diet, ABA therapy and his supplements, and has come SO far since his diagnosis in Sept. 08...it is like a lightbulb finally went off in his head!!I just want to be sure I am doing everything I can for him...I don't want him to regress...I have heard stories of kids starting to talk after starting the chelation process, and that is what I SO desperately want for my son...he is progressing so great in every other area, except speech! Any advice or experience would be so helpful in this very difficult and confusing decision I will have to make. Thank you SO much!!!e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 Our son is 4 and we may also be starting Chelation soon with our DAN physician in FL, Dr. Dan Rossignol due to our son having high levels of toxins as shown in blood work up and urinalize. I would say just stay in close contact with the DAN physician you trust and are working with for your child. It is all very complicated and hard on us parents, especially when our regular Pediatricians aren't supporting us either with helping our children. Dana From: kristine_erice <kristine_erice@ yahoo.com>Subject: ChelationTo: autism-georgia@ yahoogroups. comDate: Wednesday, April 22, 2009, 9:51 AM Hi,I was just wondering if anyone has had any experiences with Chelation, either positive OR negative. I have a phone consult with my son's DAN! biomed dr. this afternoon at 2:00 to do a 3 month follow up, and I know that the discussion of trying chelation will be coming up. I have done a bunch of research on it, and am really confused if we should try it or not...in fact, I haven't been able to sleep lately because I am so confused. My son is 2 1/2 years old and non-verbal (makes some sounds, but no real words), but is doing EXTREMELY well on the GFCFSF diet, ABA therapy and his supplements, and has come SO far since his diagnosis in Sept. 08...it is like a lightbulb finally went off in his head!!I just want to be sure I am doing everything I can for him...I don't want him to regress...I have heard stories of kids starting to talk after starting the chelation process, and that is what I SO desperately want for my son...he is progressing so great in every other area, except speech! Any advice or experience would be so helpful in this very difficult and confusing decision I will have to make. Thank you SO much!!!e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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