Re: Some good news for a change

[Guest guest]

Barb,

Your comment is timely. I have wondered in the past 6 mos. what alien

has taken over my sweet daughter (13). She has always been such an

obedient, sweet girl and now is very short with everyone around her.

Last night when she had to get a parent signature on a project and I

ACTUALLY ASKED HER A QUESTION ABOUT IT instead of just signing, she got

all mad, said I was annoying and was quite exasperated. I hope my sweet

girl comes out on the other end of the teenage tunnel.

Dina

[Guest guest]

Barb -

Great news! I'm so happy for you and your son. It's so uplifing to hear

positive news. You are definitely on the right track. Just don't look back -

just look ahead.

all the best,

angela

Subject: Some good news for a change

To:

Date: Thursday, May 22, 2008, 12:13 PM

Ok, I have some good, and kind of crazy news, for a change. Our son,

with severe OCD for two years, after only one visit to a new, private

psychologist, has announced he no longer has OCD. To prove it he

wiped his hand through dust, a BIG issue, and put his hand in his

mouth and scraped crud off his teeth, and later brushed his own teeth

(it's been months). He says he realizes he doesn't feel any anxiety

anymore, it's just a habit that he can stop.

Now I'm not stupid enough to think it is all over, and when I asked

him if he could do other things, he said he could but didn't want

to....so it may well be that he has had a revellation with the

contamination stuff. Whatever this new doctor did to explain OCD, it

seems to have had a very big impact, and perhaps that readiness piece

is finally here.

But STILL, he has been in treatment for 7 months with a doctor at our

mental health hospital(Canada) who is trained in CBT for OCD, and

there has been no progress, and it has been mostly blame the patient,

the parents, hiding behind legal confidentiality issues.... Which is

why we have gone out to a private doctor.

It would seem accountability, as in, if you don't get results you

don't keep and get new clients, is a factor in all this. Within the

system the clients come sometimes because they have nowhere else to

go ($), and it's hard to get care, and if you are going to a

specialized mental health facility the assumption is they know a

thing or two about mental illness. Sigh.... It's early days yet,

we've just started, but it sure is good to feel hopeful!

Now I have to work at letting go of the fact that our child lost two

years of his life to a system that failed him, and all we had to do,

seemingly, was pull him out and go privately. We did start out

privately, then needed medication, got in the system and our

nightmare began and continued... . It's easy to have this clarity

now. At the time we held on for dear life and depended on these

professionals to help us figure out what was going on. Which to be

fair is still in process, but at least the OCD piece seems clearer.

Still can't believe my OCD kid just placed both hands on the floor(he

saw a bit of Oprah), like it was nothing, and claimed " See, I don't

have OCD " !!! It's a beginning.

Barb, happy to be feeling hopeful!!!

[Guest guest]

Love the Dog Whisperer too. I want his dog, Daddy.

Yes, it is sad that treatment can be so unaffordable. It's wrong on

so many levels. We've put ourselves in a bad place finanacially,

affording Josh's therapy, but I have no regrets. He has benefitted

so much, it was worth it. We've stopped short of breaking into his

college money. If our insurance company does not cooperate, we may

have to do something that drastic though. <sigh>

Garden is good. We are harvesting lettuce, spinach, arugula, and

radishes out of it. Josh wolfed down salad the other day like he

couldn't get enough. lol I guess he was salad deprived.

Hugs,

BJ

> >

> > Yep, I think OCD teaches us to always keep that other shoe in the

> back of our minds. . Knowing it's there. .Knowing what can be. . .

> I know it's hard to hope and believe, but I try HARD not to think

that

> > far ahead and just enjoy the moment. Know what I mean. (((you)))

> > Enjoy your moment! )

> >

> > BJ

> >

>

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Does this sound like MY daughter! I think a big portion of what we experience

with her is hormonal. I am going to take her to a ob/gyn next.

Sina wrote:

Barb,

Your comment is timely. I have wondered in the past 6 mos. what alien

has taken over my sweet daughter (13). She has always been such an

obedient, sweet girl and now is very short with everyone around her.

Last night when she had to get a parent signature on a project and I

ACTUALLY ASKED HER A QUESTION ABOUT IT instead of just signing, she got

all mad, said I was annoying and was quite exasperated. I hope my sweet

girl comes out on the other end of the teenage tunnel.

Dina

[Guest guest]

So glad for him and your family! Must feel like such a relief to see

him be so courageous and motivated.

*let the happy tears roll

>

> Ok, I have some good, and kind of crazy news, for a change. Our

son,

> with severe OCD for two years, after only one visit to a new,

private

> psychologist, has announced he no longer has OCD. To prove it he

> wiped his hand through dust, a BIG issue, and put his hand in his

> mouth and scraped crud off his teeth, and later brushed his own

teeth

> (it's been months). He says he realizes he doesn't feel any

anxiety

> anymore, it's just a habit that he can stop.

>

> Now I'm not stupid enough to think it is all over, and when I

asked

> him if he could do other things, he said he could but didn't want

> to....so it may well be that he has had a revellation with the

> contamination stuff. Whatever this new doctor did to explain OCD,

it

> seems to have had a very big impact, and perhaps that readiness

piece

> is finally here.

>

> But STILL, he has been in treatment for 7 months with a doctor at

our

> mental health hospital(Canada) who is trained in CBT for OCD, and

> there has been no progress, and it has been mostly blame the

patient,

> the parents, hiding behind legal confidentiality issues.... Which

is

> why we have gone out to a private doctor.

>

> It would seem accountability, as in, if you don't get results you

> don't keep and get new clients, is a factor in all this. Within

the

> system the clients come sometimes because they have nowhere else

to

> go ($), and it's hard to get care, and if you are going to a

> specialized mental health facility the assumption is they know a

> thing or two about mental illness. Sigh.... It's early days yet,

> we've just started, but it sure is good to feel hopeful!

>

> Now I have to work at letting go of the fact that our child lost

two

> years of his life to a system that failed him, and all we had to

do,

> seemingly, was pull him out and go privately. We did start out

> privately, then needed medication, got in the system and our

> nightmare began and continued.... It's easy to have this clarity

> now. At the time we held on for dear life and depended on these

> professionals to help us figure out what was going on. Which to

be

> fair is still in process, but at least the OCD piece seems clearer.

>

> Still can't believe my OCD kid just placed both hands on the floor

(he

> saw a bit of Oprah), like it was nothing, and claimed " See, I

don't

> have OCD " !!! It's a beginning.

>

> Barb, happy to be feeling hopeful!!!

>

[Guest guest]

Barb,

That is just amazing!  When our son went through intensive ERP therapy his OCD

behaviors just seemed to fall away suddenly too, like a house of cards. In his

case though it took months of therapy to get to that point.  Once one OCD

thought was vanquished the others were much easier to tackle. It is just amazing

that your son was able to do that after just one session ( and the Oprah show).

Sometimes I do think that my son's OCD issues don't have the same anxiety

attached to them as they had initially and that he hangs on to them more as a

habit than anything, just as your son stated. Good for him though to push

through that.

Here's hoping this is just the beginning and that he does return to a more

'normal' life, not ruled by OCD!

Sinead

P.S. I missed the Oprah show. Does anyone know if you can order a copy or

download it?  Heck, I'd have my son watch it every day if I thought it would

have a similar effect on him!

Some good news for a change

Ok, I have some good, and kind of crazy news, for a change. Our son,

with severe OCD for two years, after only one visit to a new, private

psychologist, has announced he no longer has OCD. To prove it he

wiped his hand through dust, a BIG issue, and put his hand in his

mouth and scraped crud off his teeth, and later brushed his own teeth

(it's been months). He says he realizes he doesn't feel any anxiety

anymore, it's just a habit that he can stop.

Now I'm not stupid enough to think it is all over, and when I asked

him if he could do other things, he said he could but didn't want

to....so it may well be that he has had a revellation with the

contamination stuff. Whatever this new doctor did to explain OCD, it

seems to have had a very big impact, and perhaps that readiness piece

is finally here.

But STILL, he has been in treatment for 7 months with a doctor at our

mental health hospital(Canada) who is trained in CBT for OCD, and

there has been no progress, and it has been mostly blame the patient,

the parents, hiding behind legal confidentiality issues.... Which is

why we have gone out to a private doctor.

It would seem accountability, as in, if you don't get results you

don't keep and get new clients, is a factor in all this. Within the

system the clients come sometimes because they have nowhere else to

go ($), and it's hard to get care, and if you are going to a

specialized mental health facility the assumption is they know a

thing or two about mental illness. Sigh.... It's early days yet,

we've just started, but it sure is good to feel hopeful!

Now I have to work at letting go of the fact that our child lost two

years of his life to a system that failed him, and all we had to do,

seemingly, was pull him out and go privately. We did start out

privately, then needed medication, got in the system and our

nightmare began and continued... . It's easy to have this clarity

now. At the time we held on for dear life and depended on these

professionals to help us figure out what was going on. Which to be

fair is still in process, but at least the OCD piece seems clearer.

Still can't believe my OCD kid just placed both hands on the floor(he

saw a bit of Oprah), like it was nothing, and claimed " See, I don't

have OCD " !!! It's a beginning.

Barb, happy to be feeling hopeful!!!

[Guest guest]

Sinead, I often go to her show's website to watch/read stuff I missed.

Haven't checked it about the OCD show but you might try that.

> Sinead

> P.S. I missed the Oprah show. Does anyone know if you can order a

copy or download it?  Heck, I'd have my son watch it every day if I

thought it would have a similar effect on him!

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi

My name is liz linzmeier i reside in central calif and i have a 10 year old

son who has ocd and adhd and was diagnosed 4 years ago and what is erp therapy

and how do you go about finding out about it i did watch oprah on wednesday it

was dealing with adults thanks liz

Sinead Ni wrote:

Barb,

That is just amazing! When our son went through intensive ERP therapy his OCD

behaviors just seemed to fall away suddenly too, like a house of cards. In his

case though it took months of therapy to get to that point. Once one OCD

thought was vanquished the others were much easier to tackle. It is just amazing

that your son was able to do that after just one session ( and the Oprah show).

Sometimes I do think that my son's OCD issues don't have the same anxiety

attached to them as they had initially and that he hangs on to them more as a

habit than anything, just as your son stated. Good for him though to push

through that.

Here's hoping this is just the beginning and that he does return to a more

'normal' life, not ruled by OCD!

Sinead

P.S. I missed the Oprah show. Does anyone know if you can order a copy or

download it? Heck, I'd have my son watch it every day if I thought it would

have a similar effect on him!

Some good news for a change

Ok, I have some good, and kind of crazy news, for a change. Our son,

with severe OCD for two years, after only one visit to a new, private

psychologist, has announced he no longer has OCD. To prove it he

wiped his hand through dust, a BIG issue, and put his hand in his

mouth and scraped crud off his teeth, and later brushed his own teeth

(it's been months). He says he realizes he doesn't feel any anxiety

anymore, it's just a habit that he can stop.

Now I'm not stupid enough to think it is all over, and when I asked

him if he could do other things, he said he could but didn't want

to....so it may well be that he has had a revellation with the

contamination stuff. Whatever this new doctor did to explain OCD, it

seems to have had a very big impact, and perhaps that readiness piece

is finally here.

But STILL, he has been in treatment for 7 months with a doctor at our

mental health hospital(Canada) who is trained in CBT for OCD, and

there has been no progress, and it has been mostly blame the patient,

the parents, hiding behind legal confidentiality issues.... Which is

why we have gone out to a private doctor.

It would seem accountability, as in, if you don't get results you

don't keep and get new clients, is a factor in all this. Within the

system the clients come sometimes because they have nowhere else to

go ($), and it's hard to get care, and if you are going to a

specialized mental health facility the assumption is they know a

thing or two about mental illness. Sigh.... It's early days yet,

we've just started, but it sure is good to feel hopeful!

Now I have to work at letting go of the fact that our child lost two

years of his life to a system that failed him, and all we had to do,

seemingly, was pull him out and go privately. We did start out

privately, then needed medication, got in the system and our

nightmare began and continued... . It's easy to have this clarity

now. At the time we held on for dear life and depended on these

professionals to help us figure out what was going on. Which to be

fair is still in process, but at least the OCD piece seems clearer.

Still can't believe my OCD kid just placed both hands on the floor(he

saw a bit of Oprah), like it was nothing, and claimed " See, I don't

have OCD " !!! It's a beginning.

Barb, happy to be feeling hopeful!!!

[Guest guest]

Hi

My name is liz linzmeier i reside in central calif and i have a 10 year old

son who has ocd and adhd and was diagnosed 4 years ago and what is erp therapy

and how do you go about finding out about it i did watch oprah on wednesday it

was dealing with adults thanks liz

Sinead Ni wrote:

Barb,

That is just amazing! When our son went through intensive ERP therapy his OCD

behaviors just seemed to fall away suddenly too, like a house of cards. In his

case though it took months of therapy to get to that point. Once one OCD

thought was vanquished the others were much easier to tackle. It is just amazing

that your son was able to do that after just one session ( and the Oprah show).

Sometimes I do think that my son's OCD issues don't have the same anxiety

attached to them as they had initially and that he hangs on to them more as a

habit than anything, just as your son stated. Good for him though to push

through that.

Here's hoping this is just the beginning and that he does return to a more

'normal' life, not ruled by OCD!

Sinead

P.S. I missed the Oprah show. Does anyone know if you can order a copy or

download it? Heck, I'd have my son watch it every day if I thought it would

have a similar effect on him!

Some good news for a change

Ok, I have some good, and kind of crazy news, for a change. Our son,

with severe OCD for two years, after only one visit to a new, private

psychologist, has announced he no longer has OCD. To prove it he

wiped his hand through dust, a BIG issue, and put his hand in his

mouth and scraped crud off his teeth, and later brushed his own teeth

(it's been months). He says he realizes he doesn't feel any anxiety

anymore, it's just a habit that he can stop.

Now I'm not stupid enough to think it is all over, and when I asked

him if he could do other things, he said he could but didn't want

to....so it may well be that he has had a revellation with the

contamination stuff. Whatever this new doctor did to explain OCD, it

seems to have had a very big impact, and perhaps that readiness piece

is finally here.

But STILL, he has been in treatment for 7 months with a doctor at our

mental health hospital(Canada) who is trained in CBT for OCD, and

there has been no progress, and it has been mostly blame the patient,

the parents, hiding behind legal confidentiality issues.... Which is

why we have gone out to a private doctor.

It would seem accountability, as in, if you don't get results you

don't keep and get new clients, is a factor in all this. Within the

system the clients come sometimes because they have nowhere else to

go ($), and it's hard to get care, and if you are going to a

specialized mental health facility the assumption is they know a

thing or two about mental illness. Sigh.... It's early days yet,

we've just started, but it sure is good to feel hopeful!

Now I have to work at letting go of the fact that our child lost two

years of his life to a system that failed him, and all we had to do,

seemingly, was pull him out and go privately. We did start out

privately, then needed medication, got in the system and our

nightmare began and continued... . It's easy to have this clarity

now. At the time we held on for dear life and depended on these

professionals to help us figure out what was going on. Which to be

fair is still in process, but at least the OCD piece seems clearer.

Still can't believe my OCD kid just placed both hands on the floor(he

saw a bit of Oprah), like it was nothing, and claimed " See, I don't

have OCD " !!! It's a beginning.

Barb, happy to be feeling hopeful!!!

[Guest guest]

Hey BJ,

I want the dog whisperer to come to my house and work with our son,

our dog I can manage!

Know what you mean on the money front. Our provincial health

insurance does not cover private psychologists, and both my husband

and I are self employed so don't have extended health insurance. It

would only cover about $1000 anyway, and that would be gone within 6-

7 visits, so not much help anyway.

That was one reason we stayed in the hospital system, it is the only

place it is covered. With only one psychologist on staff, and the

training in CBT for OCD questionable it doesn't matter if it is free

or not if it's not working....

Wish I could taste some of your veggies from your garden. I love

salad too!

By the by, we're back to status quo with the OCD. Not really

unexpected. At least we had a glimmer of what is possible. We are

hopeful the this new doctor will help us. My son of course feels he

has nothing to do with it, says he doesn't need to see him, can get

better on his own....the delusions of a teenager. He will be going

to this guy if I have to forklift him out of the house!!!

Barb

[Guest guest]

***I want the dog whisperer to come to my house and work with our son,

our dog I can manage!***

Rofl, Barb. You're so funny.

Sorry things are back to normal today. <sigh> I guess that's to be

expected with OCD. Still, I'm with you. . .A glimpse of what can be,

inspires hope. This new guy seems to have connected with your son, so

there is something to build on there. I'm gonna keep hoping with you,

and praying for you.

Hugs to you,

BJ

>

> Hey BJ,

>

> I want the dog whisperer to come to my house and work with our son,

> our dog I can manage!

>

> Know what you mean on the money front. Our provincial health

> insurance does not cover private psychologists, and both my husband

> and I are self employed so don't have extended health insurance. It

> would only cover about $1000 anyway, and that would be gone within 6-

> 7 visits, so not much help anyway.

>

> That was one reason we stayed in the hospital system, it is the only

> place it is covered. With only one psychologist on staff, and the

> training in CBT for OCD questionable it doesn't matter if it is free

> or not if it's not working....

>

> Wish I could taste some of your veggies from your garden. I love

> salad too!

>

> By the by, we're back to status quo with the OCD. Not really

> unexpected. At least we had a glimmer of what is possible. We are

> hopeful the this new doctor will help us. My son of course feels he

> has nothing to do with it, says he doesn't need to see him, can get

> better on his own....the delusions of a teenager. He will be going

> to this guy if I have to forklift him out of the house!!!

>

> Barb

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks and . We are hopeful.

Barb

[Guest guest]

**** By the by, we're back to status quo with the OCD. Not really

unexpected. At least we had a glimmer of what is possible. We are

hopeful the this new doctor will help us. My son of course feels he

has nothing to do with it, says he doesn't need to see him, can get

better on his own....the delusions of a teenager. He will be going

to this guy if I have to forklift him out of the house!!! ****

Hey Barb,

Sorry the OCD is back. I would think if he could fight the OCD and manage

it at all for a

couple of days, he can do it again. Certainly stay hopeful. This new doctor

does sound like

he will be able to help. I will keep praying for you guys.

Take care

Connie

[Guest guest]

Barb,

I now know thanks to my children that I have had OCD all my life.

one of my obsessions as a child was being extremely afraid of

chickens. My cousin when he found out would chase me around the yard

with one in his hands. Then one day I just walked into the chicken

coup, no problem.

Even to this day I still will not touch small animals like chickens

or lizards, even though I know they are not harmful. However, nobody

can chase me anymore...LOL. I am just saying that even though it may

seem like your son is back to the way it was, he probably is not

completely. He probably has made a very huge step in his thoughts

somewhere. Besides, I truly believe most of this has to do with

brain development and your son is definately at the age where maybe

his brain grew three sizes that day. (grinch reference)

don't give up:

Get going. Get up and walk if you have to, but finish the race.

Ron Hill to Jerome Drayton during the 1970 Boston Marathon

And we are in a marathon.

t

[Guest guest]

Daddy is so cool, he is like the Mini-me of Caesar. I think.

We also planted a garden yesterday, the biggest one so far. Planted onions,

carrots, tomatoes, peppers, basil, oregano, chives, strawberries and lots of

flowers everywhere.

I have to have something for myself that I can go to and just think while I am

watering and taking care of the " crops " . It's peaceful.

svdbyhislove wrote:

Love the Dog Whisperer too. I want his dog, Daddy.

Yes, it is sad that treatment can be so unaffordable. It's wrong on

so many levels. We've put ourselves in a bad place finanacially,

affording Josh's therapy, but I have no regrets. He has benefitted

so much, it was worth it. We've stopped short of breaking into his

college money. If our insurance company does not cooperate, we may

have to do something that drastic though. <sigh>

Garden is good. We are harvesting lettuce, spinach, arugula, and

radishes out of it. Josh wolfed down salad the other day like he

couldn't get enough. lol I guess he was salad deprived.

Hugs,

BJ

> >

> > Yep, I think OCD teaches us to always keep that other shoe in the

> back of our minds. . Knowing it's there. .Knowing what can be. . .

> I know it's hard to hope and believe, but I try HARD not to think

that

> > far ahead and just enjoy the moment. Know what I mean. (((you)))

> > Enjoy your moment! )

> >

> > BJ

> >

>

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I agree, . It is a peaceful place for me to retreat too also.

My family leaves me alone because they fear I will put them to work

if they bother me. lol

BJ

> > >

> > > Yep, I think OCD teaches us to always keep that other shoe in

the

> > back of our minds. . Knowing it's there. .Knowing what can be. . .

> > I know it's hard to hope and believe, but I try HARD not to think

> that

> > > far ahead and just enjoy the moment. Know what I mean. (((you)))

> > > Enjoy your moment! )

> > >

> > > BJ

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