Re: Just a thought to consider with all forms of illness.

[Guest guest]

Anne,

There is a truth behind your message. Don't be hesitant to point it out.

We aren't always aware of the underlying emotional reasons for physical

dysfunction, but they are always there.

love & light,

jim

Vanadeux wrote:

>

> Please don't think I am saying every ill person has an emotional cause to

their illness, just to consider it may be a contributary factor.

>

> Also we may not necessarily be aware that we have strong repressed emotions,

that are as alive as the day we experienced them, but just repressed. So just a

thought.....

>

> regards Anne

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[Guest guest]

Hi,

Please consider that there may be other underlying causes for illness.

Choices always result in consequences, many of which persist in duration and

reach beyond even the parameters of our present lifetime. There is a time

for everything and the repository of all knowing is Spirit Itself, within

which each of us live and move and have our being. Emotional fixations, like

mental fixations, represent locks on our attention which both limit our

freedom of movement and our ability to function as a conscious and non

reactive being. Reaction, no matter the arena, carries with it a price,

which we often pay for physically through its impact upon the vibratory rate

of our cells, organs and bodily system. Please consider further that each

experience carries with it a principle or lesson about life. If we learn the

lesson and humbly surrender it to Spirit, we may be blessed with the

disappearance of the condition and a return to a greater state of health.

But remember, personal responsibility for choices entails neither guilt nor

unworthiness but the simple act of loving oneself for having done the best

one can until one can do better.

In Love with Spirit,

Re: Just a thought to consider with all forms of

illness.

Anne,

There is a truth behind your message. Don't be hesitant to point it out.

We aren't always aware of the underlying emotional reasons for physical

dysfunction, but they are always there.

love & light,

jim

Vanadeux wrote:

>

> Please don't think I am saying every ill person has an emotional cause to

their illness, just to consider it may be a contributary factor.

>

> Also we may not necessarily be aware that we have strong repressed

emotions, that are as alive as the day we experienced them, but just

repressed. So just a thought.....

>

> regards Anne

--

" Roccy Raccoon is a stalker! " -- J. Clay Lambert

jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience/home.html

http://www.entrance.to/poetry/poems1.html

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[Guest guest]

I don't have repressed emotions; I know I'm pissed off.....

But seriously, this bug I have is hard to kill; I think that is widely

accepted. It is devastating to some and does nothing to others.

Like Jim suggested, a new game plan may be in order.

I once in the recent past had normal liver function, after practicing

Tai Chi, castor oil packs, lemon olive oil drink, and a good diet. That

is enough to keep one healthy I think. But this time I was trying to

finish the job, and learned that may not happen. Maybe rolling with the

punches is a better strategy.

[Guest guest]

here is another thought to consider...

something that i think is true about illness in general-- which is contrary to

what many folks here believe or practice

viruses, bacteria and parasites are not your enemy. they are your friends,

trying to clean up damaged tissue. (apologies to hulda clark followers, but i

think she sees the world backward, inside out, and upside down)

why is your tissue weak or damaged?

how can you strengthen your liver ?

once it is strong enough, the viruses will leave of their own accord.

[Guest guest]

Arthur, you're in good company i.e., Antoine Bechamp, who as you may know

said, " the terrain is everything. " You're absoulutely right: the wildlife

moves in only when the inner terrain allows it. Kill off everything and if

the terrain isn't changed, everything will come back.

Greg

> viruses, bacteria and parasites are not your enemy. they are your friends,

trying to clean up damaged tissue. (apologies to hulda clark followers, but

i think she sees the world backward, inside out, and upside down)

>

> why is your tissue weak or damaged?

>

> how can you strengthen your liver ?

>

> once it is strong enough, the viruses will leave of their own accord.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Please advise us of the strength that results in your immortality.

Arthur Luckower wrote:

>

> here is another thought to consider...

>

> something that i think is true about illness in general-- which is contrary to

what many folks here believe or practice

>

> viruses, bacteria and parasites are not your enemy. they are your friends,

trying to clean up damaged tissue. (apologies to hulda clark followers, but i

think she sees the world backward, inside out, and upside down)

>

> why is your tissue weak or damaged?

>

> how can you strengthen your liver ?

>

> once it is strong enough, the viruses will leave of their own accord.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Art,

While I agree with this in principle, I would add that the pathogenic

load is an extra burden to carry, and getting rid of as much of it as

possible while waiting for the body to do its work is adviseable.

jim

> Arthur Luckower wrote:

> >

> > here is another thought to consider...

> >

> > something that i think is true about illness in general-- which is contrary

to what many folks here believe or practice

> >

> > viruses, bacteria and parasites are not your enemy. they are your friends,

trying to clean up damaged tissue. (apologies to hulda clark followers, but i

think she sees the world backward, inside out, and upside down)

> >

> > why is your tissue weak or damaged?

> >

> > how can you strengthen your liver ?

> >

> > once it is strong enough, the viruses will leave of their own accord.

--

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[Guest guest]

hello jim

i agree with your statement in principle as well,

but if you consider that the 'pathogen' is serving a purpose then you have to

weigh the pros and cons of

'getting rid of as much of it as

possible'

as you say.

this is the big mistake i have made in the past... trying to kill as many bugs

as i could. the problem is that this will often weaken the person without

addressing cause. the live-food list is filled with former hulda clark devotees

who hit a brick wall and then got past it by getting over their germophobia. of

course if a person is dying or suffering terribly then palliative bug killing is

a good thing. but this is where alot of people go astray because they feel good

after killing some bugs and then stay on this road. (guilty as charged right

here)

this is also why i cringe when people talk about zappers here on the list. (thus

begins the thread on the virtues of zapping)

it's a windy path.

i have also seen people err to the other side as well, by cleaning out too fast

with raw foods. lots of people on the live-food list in this category as well.

(myself guilty as charged again)

after these experiences i am more afraid of dogma than viruses

ps

still passing lots of big stones after 37 liver cleanses. jesus!

p.p.s. a quote from a wise person i know " there is no system to figuring this

out, that's how god keeps the idiots away "

[Guest guest]

At 05:34 PM 07/01/2002 +0100, you wrote:

>Please don't think I am saying every ill person has an emotional cause to

>their illness, just to consider it may be a contributary factor.

I accept the fact that some emotional and mental problems are

chemically related. Some medical info seems to

substantiate this.

>Also we may not necessarily be aware that we have strong repressed

>emotions, that are as alive as the day we experienced them, but just

>repressed. So just a thought.....

I know a number of people that have emotional problems. I think a

large percentage of these are due to these people

not having any goals, not having a clue how to accomplish anything, not

working hard enough, not keeping their problems in order, and generally

being a misfit into the life they have created for themselves.

If I sit around all day thinking about what I don't have, what I can't

accomplish, and what I don't know that I wish I knew, I would be at the top

of the list for the emotional freaks.

There is a huge amount of evidence that most mental problem that are

classified as life long ailments by doctors could in fact be cured.

Dr. C. s talks very bad about many of these

doctors. Possibly what he says is true.

Maybe I missed the whole point.

Wayne

[Guest guest]

And, as you may also know, Sr. O. Young, who wrote " The pH Miracle " ,

is very closely aligned with both the research and thought of Bechamp. Each

of you may find his approach to health to be very interesting. Please visit

me at www.innerlightinc.com/drsabrown

Re: Just a thought to consider with all forms of

illness.

Arthur, you're in good company i.e., Antoine Bechamp, who as you may know

said, " the terrain is everything. " You're absoulutely right: the wildlife

moves in only when the inner terrain allows it. Kill off everything and if

the terrain isn't changed, everything will come back.

Greg

> viruses, bacteria and parasites are not your enemy. they are your friends,

trying to clean up damaged tissue. (apologies to hulda clark followers, but

i think she sees the world backward, inside out, and upside down)

>

> why is your tissue weak or damaged?

>

> how can you strengthen your liver ?

>

> once it is strong enough, the viruses will leave of their own accord.

>

>

>