Guest guest Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 Just to update all of you. Dad is still hanging on. The hospice nurse is putting a catheter in him tonight. His bladder is distended. My meanie sister says she does not want him on morphine because she cant understand what he says. I was ready to kill her! But luckily all my other siblings agree and we are giving morphine as needed. His respirations were up to 47 and very ragged. His lungs are congested too. M > >Reply-To: LBDcaregivers >To: <LBDcaregivers > >Subject: Re: Still going downhill- >Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 23:08:17 -0500 (Central Daylight Time) >MIME-Version: 1.0 >X-Sender: sanclown@... >Received: from n11.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.66]) by mc2-f8.hotmail.com >with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6824); Thu, 26 Aug 2004 21:10:16 -0700 >Received: from [66.218.66.31] by n11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Aug >2004 04:09:46 -0000 >Received: (qmail 68202 invoked from network); 27 Aug 2004 04:09:45 -0000 >Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m25.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; >27 Aug 2004 04:09:45 -0000 >Received: from unknown (HELO outbound28-2.lax.untd.com) (64.136.28.160) by >mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Aug 2004 04:09:45 -0000 >Received: from outbound28-2.lax.untd.com (smtp01.lax.untd.com >[10.130.24.121])by smtpout04.lax.untd.com with SMTP id AABAU7N8SAEBNUBSfor ><LBDcaregivers > (sender );Thu, 26 Aug >2004 21:08:48 -0700 (PDT) >Received: (qmail 25217 invoked from network); 27 Aug 2004 04:08:32 -0000 >Received: from unknown (HELO sandi) (63.186.19.247) by smtp01.lax.untd.com >with SMTP; 27 Aug 2004 04:08:32 -0000 >X-Message-Info: JGTYoYF78jEE9oJpCnNiDuOtV5MLOGRn >X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-email >X-Apparently-To: LBDcaregivers >Message-Id: <412EB3B1.00000A.14433@SANDI> >X-Mailer: IncrediMail (3001609) >References: >X-FID: B2BD7C40-142F-43ED-B255-55F935D5A432 >X-ContentStamp: 20:10:1896747499 >X-UNTD-OriginStamp: >OLm8uUz9BbLQv6GdrAZwQtvTDWnT1yNrKhHC8/bLhoyv9Wvyz1+U5w== >X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.136.28.160 >X-Yahoo-Profile: sanclown2004 >Mailing-List: list LBDcaregivers ; contact >LBDcaregivers-owner >Delivered-To: mailing list LBDcaregivers >Precedence: bulk >List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:LBDcaregivers-unsubscribe > >Return-Path: >sentto-2141318-34305-1093579785-cat86443=hotmail.com@... >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Aug 2004 04:10:16.0291 (UTC) >FILETIME=[C2146B30:01C48BEB] > > Dear - > >Reading your post sent tears running down my face. Please know that >you are not alone. Many, many prayers will be said tonight for you, >and your dad. > >Hugs from the heart- > >Sandie and > >-- Re: Still going downhill > >Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 19:27:18 -0400 > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > >X-Sender: mido101@... > >Received: from n12.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.67]) by > >mc11-f28.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6824); Thu, 26 Aug > >2004 16:29:55 -0700 > >Received: from [66.218.66.160] by n12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 >Aug > >2004 23:27:21 -0000 > >Received: (qmail 16616 invoked from network); 26 Aug 2004 23:27:19 -0000 > >Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m20.grp.scd.yahoo.com with >QMQP; > >26 Aug 2004 23:27:19 -0000 > >Received: from unknown (HELO smtpout-3103.bay.webtv.net) >(209.240.204.194) > >by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Aug 2004 23:27:19 -0000 > >Received: from storefull-3277.bay.webtv.net > >(bay-6me-tv-1a-natpool-1.bay.webtv.net [209.240.207.249])by > >smtpout-3103.bay.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) with ESMTP id >230EF105A7for > ><LBDcaregivers >; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 16:27:19 -0700 (PDT) > >Received: (from production@localhost) by storefull-3277.bay.webtv.net > >(8.8.8-wtv-f/mt.gso.26Feb98) id QAA20203; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 16:27:18 -0700 > >(PDT) > >X-Message-Info: JGTYoYF78jG7Ki6YHf+DChoqOYwl9B5I > >X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-email > >X-Apparently-To: LBDcaregivers > >X-WebTV-Signature: > >1ETAsAhRSZrDClx/2u6L5mO2+CwQmPs8NFQIUGBUKpf/075Aw7U0MxV0ho79XVG0= > >Message-ID: > >In-Reply-To: " janeymar54 " 's message of Thu, 26 Aug > >2004 21:12:18 -0000 > >X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 209.240.204.194 > >X-Yahoo-Profile: mine49067 > >Mailing-List: list LBDcaregivers ; contact > & gt;LBDcaregivers-owner > >Delivered-To: mailing list LBDcaregivers > >Precedence: bulk > >List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:LBDcaregivers-unsubscribe > > >Return-Path: > & gt;sentto-2141318-34288-1093562840-cat86443=hotmail.com@... >yahoo.com > >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Aug 2004 23:29:55.0756 (UTC) > >FILETIME=[984276C0:01C48BC4] > > > > M, > > > >Go to the Yahoo website and click on links. I believe the end stage > >articles are in there. There are some good ones that help. > > > >Mom did to lots of eye closing and less eating and more sleeping toward > >the end. When she got thrush, no one told me that that could be an > >indication that her immune system was shuting down. Mom could not walk > >and had trouble for at least 3 months before she died with walking. > >Then her eating started to be a problem with the thrush. I assumed she > >could not eat because her mouth hurt. > > > >The articles talk about the eyes being shut as a way to start getting > >out of this world and it sure made sense. And when I touched her eyes > >and asked her to open them, she would or could not open them and said > >so. > > > >Hope this helps. There are a lot of links that many questions that have > >been here lately, could find some help in those links. > > > >Donna R > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! 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Guest guest Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 cathy m our thoughts and prayers are with you sharon m a smile a day keeps the meanies away!!! laughter is a breath of fresh air! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2004 Report Share Posted September 1, 2004 said: My meanie sister says she does not want him on morphine because she cant understand what he says. I was ready to kill her! ******************* Well - IMHO - that would have been JUSTIFIABLE HOMICIDE!!! What an idiot!!! carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2004 Report Share Posted September 1, 2004 , I went through some of the same thing when my dad was in the last stages of cancer. My step-mother was afraid to give him too much morphine. All that I could see was that he was in pain when he was awake. I started giving him the morphine any time that he needed it. You are doing the right thing for him!! Re: Still going downhill > > >Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 19:27:18 -0400 > > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > > >X-Sender: mido101@... > > >Received: from n12.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.67]) by > > >mc11-f28.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6824); Thu, 26 Aug > > >2004 16:29:55 -0700 > > >Received: from [66.218.66.160] by n12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 > >Aug > > >2004 23:27:21 -0000 > > >Received: (qmail 16616 invoked from network); 26 Aug 2004 23:27:19 -0000 > > >Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m20.grp.scd.yahoo.com with > >QMQP; > > >26 Aug 2004 23:27:19 -0000 > > >Received: from unknown (HELO smtpout-3103.bay.webtv.net) > >(209.240.204.194) > > >by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Aug 2004 23:27:19 -0000 > > >Received: from storefull-3277.bay.webtv.net > > >(bay-6me-tv-1a-natpool-1.bay.webtv.net [209.240.207.249])by > > >smtpout-3103.bay.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) with ESMTP id > >230EF105A7for > > ><LBDcaregivers >; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 16:27:19 -0700 (PDT) > > >Received: (from production@localhost) by storefull-3277.bay.webtv.net > > >(8.8.8-wtv-f/mt.gso.26Feb98) id QAA20203; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 16:27:18 -0700 > > >(PDT) > > >X-Message-Info: JGTYoYF78jG7Ki6YHf+DChoqOYwl9B5I > > >X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-email > > >X-Apparently-To: LBDcaregivers > > >X-WebTV-Signature: > > >1ETAsAhRSZrDClx/2u6L5mO2+CwQmPs8NFQIUGBUKpf/075Aw7U0MxV0ho79XVG0= > > >Message-ID: > > >In-Reply-To: " janeymar54 " 's message of Thu, 26 Aug > > >2004 21:12:18 -0000 > > >X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 209.240.204.194 > > >X-Yahoo-Profile: mine49067 > > >Mailing-List: list LBDcaregivers ; contact > > & gt;LBDcaregivers-owner > > >Delivered-To: mailing list LBDcaregivers > > >Precedence: bulk > > >List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:LBDcaregivers-unsubscribe > > > >Return-Path: > > & gt;sentto-2141318-34288-1093562840-cat86443=hotmail.com@... > >yahoo.com > > >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Aug 2004 23:29:55.0756 (UTC) > > >FILETIME=[984276C0:01C48BC4] > > > > > > M, > > > > > >Go to the Yahoo website and click on links. I believe the end stage > > >articles are in there. There are some good ones that help. > > > > > >Mom did to lots of eye closing and less eating and more sleeping toward > > >the end. When she got thrush, no one told me that that could be an > > >indication that her immune system was shuting down. Mom could not walk > > >and had trouble for at least 3 months before she died with walking. > > >Then her eating started to be a problem with the thrush. I assumed she > > >could not eat because her mouth hurt. > > > > > >The articles talk about the eyes being shut as a way to start getting > > >out of this world and it sure made sense. And when I touched her eyes > > >and asked her to open them, she would or could not open them and said > > >so. > > > > > >Hope this helps. There are a lot of links that many questions that have > > >been here lately, could find some help in those links. > > > > > >Donna R > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! > >hthttp://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > > > > > > > > > >Welcome to LBDcaregivers. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2004 Report Share Posted September 1, 2004 Hi , I am so sad that you are going through this after losing your mum only a short time ago. I am happy for you that your sibs are working together for what is best for your dad. Maybe your meanie sister is just having a really hard time coming to terms with it all, and will eventually find peace with your dads situation at present. I wish I could say something brillient that would ease your pain, but all I can offer is my support and prayers. You have them both, in spades. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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