Re: Fwd: How to identify genetically modified produce and read Bar C

[Guest guest]

I am so grateful you put this information on here. I have passed it along to a

health-minded friend who helps raise two little grandsons. Appreciate it!

I do watch the country (when it says) that it comes from. I appreciate the info

on juice ingredients to know when something is from China etc.

Phyllis

[Guest guest]

I think we should all live in Pennsylvania, have our own cows to milk, our own

produce to grow, our own plants to plant, and no gmo anything!! And pure water

to drink.

But then again, that's not Planet Earth is it?

And there is still WINDOWFARMING!!!!

lol

Melody

http://www.youtube.com/user/eliz7212?feature=mhum

May 2, 2011 12:20:44 PM, sproutpeople wrote:

===========================================

I am so grateful you put this information on here. I have passed it along to a

health-minded friend who helps raise two little grandsons. Appreciate it!

I do watch the country (when it says) that it comes from. I appreciate the info

on juice ingredients to know when something is from China etc.

Phyllis

[Guest guest]

Melody,

You reminded me of my sister's parents-in-law who were full blooded Germans

living in Hunterdon, NJ. They bought half a cow from a Pennsylvania farmer who

took care of the cow organically. When they got home, they would immediately,

store the meat in packets with right amount per one cooking. They grew their

own chickens, rabbits and pigs for food as well. The beef and pork were stored

for their year-round use. They had an orchard and vegetable farms and a cellar

built on a hill with even temperature year-round also. They made preserves and

pickles. The best apple cider i ever tasted were made by them using antique

wooden implements. They were all so delicious, we eagerly waited for fall when

they made the goodies and they would give us some and also fresh produce.

This is what you really call self sufficient. We used to joke them that if a

war broke out we'd go there to them.

>

> ===========================================

>

> I am so grateful you put this information on here. I have passed it along to a

health-minded friend who helps raise two little grandsons. Appreciate it!

>

> I do watch the country (when it says) that it comes from. I appreciate the

info on juice ingredients to know when something is from China etc.

>

> Phyllis

>

>

[Guest guest]

Where the heck does one store HALF A COW!!!

I'm not joking

Melody

http://www.youtube.com/user/eliz7212?feature=mhum

May 2, 2011 02:48:00 PM, sproutpeople wrote:

===========================================

Melody,

You reminded me of my sister's parents-in-law who were full blooded Germans

living in Hunterdon, NJ. They bought half a cow from a Pennsylvania farmer who

took care of the cow organically. When they got home, they would immediately,

store the meat in packets with right amount per one cooking. They grew their

own chickens, rabbits and pigs for food as well. The beef and pork were stored

for their year-round use. They had an orchard and vegetable farms and a cellar

built on a hill with even temperature year-round also. They made preserves and

pickles. The best apple cider i ever tasted were made by them using antique

wooden implements. They were all so delicious, we eagerly waited for fall when

they made the goodies and they would give us some and also fresh produce.

This is what you really call self sufficient. We used to joke them that if a

war broke out we'd go there to them.

>

> ===========================================

>

> I am so grateful you put this information on here. I have passed it along to a

health-minded friend who helps raise two little grandsons. Appreciate it!

>

> I do watch the country (when it says) that it comes from. I appreciate the

info on juice ingredients to know when something is from China etc.

>

> Phyllis

>

>

[Guest guest]

Could you please tell me how to remove myself from this list? The emails are

taking over my site.

________________________________

To: sproutpeople

Sent: Mon, May 2, 2011 7:01:20 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Fwd: How to identify genetically modified

produce and read Bar C

Where the heck does one store HALF A COW!!!

I'm not joking

Melody

http://www.youtube.com/user/eliz7212?feature=mhum

May 2, 2011 02:48:00 PM, sproutpeople wrote:

===========================================

Melody,

You reminded me of my sister's parents-in-law who were full blooded Germans

living in Hunterdon, NJ. They bought half a cow from a Pennsylvania farmer who

took care of the cow organically. When they got home, they would immediately,

store the meat in packets with right amount per one cooking. They grew their

own chickens, rabbits and pigs for food as well. The beef and pork were stored

for their year-round use. They had an orchard and vegetable farms and a cellar

built on a hill with even temperature year-round also. They made preserves and

pickles. The best apple cider i ever tasted were made by them using antique

wooden implements. They were all so delicious, we eagerly waited for fall when

they made the goodies and they would give us some and also fresh produce.

This is what you really call self sufficient. We used to joke them that if a

war broke out we'd go there to them.

>

> ===========================================

>

> I am so grateful you put this information on here. I have passed it along to a

>health-minded friend who helps raise two little grandsons. Appreciate it!

>

>

> I do watch the country (when it says) that it comes from. I appreciate the

info

>on juice ingredients to know when something is from China etc.

>

>

> Phyllis

>

>

[Guest guest]

Look at your emails, scroll down to where it says UNSUBSCRIBE, and choose that

option and follow directions. usually this is how it's done.

Melody

http://www.youtube.com/user/eliz7212?feature=mhum

May 2, 2011 08:09:25 PM, sproutpeople wrote:

===========================================

Could you please tell me how to remove myself from this list? The emails are

taking over my site.

________________________________

From: " eliz7212@... "

To: sproutpeople

Sent: Mon, May 2, 2011 7:01:20 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Fwd: How to identify genetically modified

produce and read Bar C

Where the heck does one store HALF A COW!!!

I'm not joking

Melody

http://www.youtube.com/user/eliz7212?feature=mhum

May 2, 2011 02:48:00 PM, sproutpeople wrote:

===========================================

Melody,

You reminded me of my sister's parents-in-law who were full blooded Germans

living in Hunterdon, NJ. They bought half a cow from a Pennsylvania farmer who

took care of the cow organically. When they got home, they would immediately,

store the meat in packets with right amount per one cooking. They grew their

own chickens, rabbits and pigs for food as well. The beef and pork were stored

for their year-round use. They had an orchard and vegetable farms and a cellar

built on a hill with even temperature year-round also. They made preserves and

pickles. The best apple cider i ever tasted were made by them using antique

wooden implements. They were all so delicious, we eagerly waited for fall when

they made the goodies and they would give us some and also fresh produce.

This is what you really call self sufficient. We used to joke them that if a

war broke out we'd go there to them.

>

> ===========================================

>

> I am so grateful you put this information on here. I have passed it along to a

>health-minded friend who helps raise two little grandsons. Appreciate it!

>

>

> I do watch the country (when it says) that it comes from. I appreciate the

info

>on juice ingredients to know when something is from China etc.

>

>

> Phyllis

>

>

[Guest guest]

In the freezer.

Most farm families had huge freezers and bought half a beef or a whole hog,

processed, wrapped and frozen.

Many times, people rented a " locker " at the local butcher or grocery store and

kept their frozen meat there. You could rent different size " drawers " . We did

it when we were first married because we didn't have a freezer. OR - and this

happened to me at least once - you rented one when YOUR freezer stopped working

and you didn't want to lose hundreds of dollars worth of food.

> >

> > ===========================================

> >

> > I am so grateful you put this information on here. I have passed it along to

a health-minded friend who helps raise two little grandsons. Appreciate it!

> >

> > I do watch the country (when it says) that it comes from. I appreciate the

info on juice ingredients to know when something is from China etc.

> >

> > Phyllis

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

People can rent freezers? I have never heard of that in my life.

I have to get out more. I would fit right in in those kinds of neighborhood.

I don't know if I'd raise hogs or pigs, but I'd definitely milk a cow. I always

wanted to know what that is like. I'm trying to picture a freezer that would

hold half a cow and that would be for one family, and the cow is all butchered

and packaged?

Holy Cow!!!! LITERALLY!!!

lol

Thanks much for the info.

I love this site.

P.S. I eat Bison, and I can only imagine how much half a bison would cost.

Melody

http://www.youtube.com/user/eliz7212?feature=mhum

May 2, 2011 08:12:12 PM, sproutpeople wrote:

===========================================

In the freezer.

Most farm families had huge freezers and bought half a beef or a whole hog,

processed, wrapped and frozen.

Many times, people rented a " locker " at the local butcher or grocery store and

kept their frozen meat there. You could rent different size " drawers " . We did

it when we were first married because we didn't have a freezer. OR - and this

happened to me at least once - you rented one when YOUR freezer stopped working

and you didn't want to lose hundreds of dollars worth of food.

> >

> > ===========================================

> >

> > I am so grateful you put this information on here. I have passed it along to

a health-minded friend who helps raise two little grandsons. Appreciate it!

> >

> > I do watch the country (when it says) that it comes from. I appreciate the

info on juice ingredients to know when something is from China etc.

> >

> > Phyllis

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

If you aren't joking, I used to buy beef by the side (half a cow) and put it in

the freezer.

Ann

>Where the heck does one store HALF A COW!!!

>

>I'm not joking

>

>Melody

>http://www.youtube.com/user/eliz7212?feature=mhum

>

>May 2, 2011 02:48:00 PM, sproutpeople wrote:

>

>===========================================

>

>Melody,

>

>You reminded me of my sister's parents-in-law who were full blooded Germans

living in Hunterdon, NJ. They bought half a cow from a Pennsylvania farmer who

took care of the cow organically. When they got home, they would immediately,

store the meat in packets with right amount per one cooking. They grew their

own chickens, rabbits and pigs for food as well. The beef and pork were stored

for their year-round use. They had an orchard and vegetable farms and a cellar

built on a hill with even temperature year-round also. They made preserves and

pickles. The best apple cider i ever tasted were made by them using antique

wooden implements. They were all so delicious, we eagerly waited for fall when

they made the goodies and they would give us some and also fresh produce.

>

>This is what you really call self sufficient. We used to joke them that if a

war broke out we'd go there to them.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>>

>> ===========================================

>>

>> I am so grateful you put this information on here. I have passed it along to

a health-minded friend who helps raise two little grandsons. Appreciate it!

>>

>> I do watch the country (when it says) that it comes from. I appreciate the

info on juice ingredients to know when something is from China etc.

>>

>> Phyllis

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

In one of the three full sized freezers down celler! We put whole cows, a couple

pigs, several sheep and goats, about 50 chickens, a turkey or three (at 35

pounds each) and who knows how many rabbits. Plus veggies and fruits. Breads and

whatever else needs to be frozen. We do plenty of canning and dehydrating as

well. We store fresh fruit and veggies in the dirt part of the celler as well.

Yup, we could live for at least a year and never leave the house!!

> Where the heck does one store HALF A COW!!!

>

> I'm not joking

>

> Melody

> http://www.youtube.com/user/eliz7212?feature=mhum

>

> May 2, 2011 02:48:00 PM, sproutpeople wrote:

>

> ===========================================

>

> Melody,

>

> You reminded me of my sister's parents-in-law who were full blooded Germans

living in Hunterdon, NJ. They bought half a cow from a Pennsylvania farmer who

took care of the cow organically. When they got home, they would immediately,

store the meat in packets with right amount per one cooking. They grew their own

chickens, rabbits and pigs for food as well. The beef and pork were stored for

their year-round use. They had an orchard and vegetable farms and a cellar built

on a hill with even temperature year-round also. They made preserves and

pickles. The best apple cider i ever tasted were made by them using antique

wooden implements. They were all so delicious, we eagerly waited for fall when

they made the goodies and they would give us some and also fresh produce.

>

> This is what you really call self sufficient. We used to joke them that if a

war broke out we'd go there to them.

>

>

>

>

> >

> > ===========================================

> >

> > I am so grateful you put this information on here. I have passed it along to

a health-minded friend who helps raise two little grandsons. Appreciate it!

> >

> > I do watch the country (when it says) that it comes from. I appreciate the

info on juice ingredients to know when something is from China etc.

> >

> > Phyllis

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

And what do you do when the electricity goes out??

It's not a dumb question

Melody

http://www.youtube.com/user/eliz7212?feature=mhum

May 2, 2011 08:24:04 PM, sproutpeople wrote:

===========================================

In one of the three full sized freezers down celler! We put whole cows, a couple

pigs, several sheep and goats, about 50 chickens, a turkey or three (at 35

pounds each) and who knows how many rabbits. Plus veggies and fruits. Breads and

whatever else needs to be frozen. We do plenty of canning and dehydrating as

well. We store fresh fruit and veggies in the dirt part of the celler as well.

Yup, we could live for at least a year and never leave the house!!

> Where the heck does one store HALF A COW!!!

>

> I'm not joking

>

> Melody

> http://www.youtube.com/user/eliz7212?feature=mhum

>

> May 2, 2011 02:48:00 PM, sproutpeople wrote:

>

> ===========================================

>

> Melody,

>

> You reminded me of my sister's parents-in-law who were full blooded Germans

living in Hunterdon, NJ. They bought half a cow from a Pennsylvania farmer who

took care of the cow organically. When they got home, they would immediately,

store the meat in packets with right amount per one cooking. They grew their own

chickens, rabbits and pigs for food as well. The beef and pork were stored for

their year-round use. They had an orchard and vegetable farms and a cellar built

on a hill with even temperature year-round also. They made preserves and

pickles. The best apple cider i ever tasted were made by them using antique

wooden implements. They were all so delicious, we eagerly waited for fall when

they made the goodies and they would give us some and also fresh produce.

>

> This is what you really call self sufficient. We used to joke them that if a

war broke out we'd go there to them.

>

>

>

>

> >

> > ===========================================

> >

> > I am so grateful you put this information on here. I have passed it along to

a health-minded friend who helps raise two little grandsons. Appreciate it!

> >

> > I do watch the country (when it says) that it comes from. I appreciate the

info on juice ingredients to know when something is from China etc.

> >

> > Phyllis

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I never joke. I'm here to learn about how other people buy and store food. I

think it's absolutely fascinating. I have gone on youtube and watched

survivorists (I think that is what they are called) and I saw videos where

people store THOUSANDS of pounds of seeds and water in their basement in case of

a catastrophe. And they have medical kits, etc.

I found it extremely interesting. And I learn new things every day. And I share

what I learn. But my friends still think I'm nuts because I grow sprouts in my

kitchen.

But I don't care. lol

Melody

http://www.youtube.com/user/eliz7212?feature=mhum

May 2, 2011 08:22:37 PM, sproutpeople wrote:

===========================================

If you aren't joking, I used to buy beef by the side (half a cow) and put it in

the freezer.

Ann

>Where the heck does one store HALF A COW!!!

>

>I'm not joking

>

>Melody

>http://www.youtube.com/user/eliz7212?feature=mhum

>

>May 2, 2011 02:48:00 PM, sproutpeople wrote:

>

>===========================================

>

>Melody,

>

>You reminded me of my sister's parents-in-law who were full blooded Germans

living in Hunterdon, NJ. They bought half a cow from a Pennsylvania farmer who

took care of the cow organically. When they got home, they would immediately,

store the meat in packets with right amount per one cooking. They grew their

own chickens, rabbits and pigs for food as well. The beef and pork were stored

for their year-round use. They had an orchard and vegetable farms and a cellar

built on a hill with even temperature year-round also. They made preserves and

pickles. The best apple cider i ever tasted were made by them using antique

wooden implements. They were all so delicious, we eagerly waited for fall when

they made the goodies and they would give us some and also fresh produce.

>

>This is what you really call self sufficient. We used to joke them that if a

war broke out we'd go there to them.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>>

>> ===========================================

>>

>> I am so grateful you put this information on here. I have passed it along to

a health-minded friend who helps raise two little grandsons. Appreciate it!

>>

>> I do watch the country (when it says) that it comes from. I appreciate the

info on juice ingredients to know when something is from China etc.

>>

>> Phyllis

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

Dear Melody,

You can tell we both are New Yorkers--although I am in NJ these days.

We lived through many a blackout--brown out, you name it in the City--especially

during the Summer.

And all of your food would go bad if it went on long enough. I still remember

being told to not open the fridge door to keep the cold in!

It is one of the things I like about having sprouts in the house--we will have

plenty of food in case of emergency.

Dr. Rollings

NJ Licensed Psychologist #4686

www.DrnRollings.com

Sent from my iPad

> And what do you do when the electricity goes out??

>

> It's not a dumb question

>

> Melody

> http://www.youtube.com/user/eliz7212?feature=mhum

>

> May 2, 2011 08:24:04 PM, sproutpeople wrote:

>

> ===========================================

>

> In one of the three full sized freezers down celler! We put whole cows, a

couple pigs, several sheep and goats, about 50 chickens, a turkey or three (at

35 pounds each) and who knows how many rabbits. Plus veggies and fruits. Breads

and whatever else needs to be frozen. We do plenty of canning and dehydrating as

well. We store fresh fruit and veggies in the dirt part of the celler as well.

> Yup, we could live for at least a year and never leave the house!!

>

>

>

>

>

> > Where the heck does one store HALF A COW!!!

> >

> > I'm not joking

> >

> > Melody

> > http://www.youtube.com/user/eliz7212?feature=mhum

> >

> > May 2, 2011 02:48:00 PM, sproutpeople wrote:

> >

> > ===========================================

> >

> > Melody,

> >

> > You reminded me of my sister's parents-in-law who were full blooded Germans

living in Hunterdon, NJ. They bought half a cow from a Pennsylvania farmer who

took care of the cow organically. When they got home, they would immediately,

store the meat in packets with right amount per one cooking. They grew their own

chickens, rabbits and pigs for food as well. The beef and pork were stored for

their year-round use. They had an orchard and vegetable farms and a cellar built

on a hill with even temperature year-round also. They made preserves and

pickles. The best apple cider i ever tasted were made by them using antique

wooden implements. They were all so delicious, we eagerly waited for fall when

they made the goodies and they would give us some and also fresh produce.

> >

> > This is what you really call self sufficient. We used to joke them that if a

war broke out we'd go there to them.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > ===========================================

> > >

> > > I am so grateful you put this information on here. I have passed it along

to a health-minded friend who helps raise two little grandsons. Appreciate it!

> > >

> > > I do watch the country (when it says) that it comes from. I appreciate the

info on juice ingredients to know when something is from China etc.

> > >

> > > Phyllis

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

I completely agree and I remember the brown out in the 60's. I was about 19 or

so and lived at home and all the electricity was out and I was working in NYC

and I remember hitching a ride with some guy. My co-workers and I were on some

corner on Madison Avenue and I told them to stay out of the way, that i would

flag some guy down. Remember I was 19 and I thought I was the cat's meow!!!!.

So this truck pulls up and this guy says: " Do you need help getting home? " and I

smiled and said " oh thank you " , and WE ALL PILED IN. You should have seen the

look on the guy's face. But he took us home.

And when I got home it must have been after 11 p.m. and my mother was crying and

there were no lights on. She thought I was dead in NYC in a black out.

I will never forget that night.

And we ALL kept our fridges shut until the next day.

And I remember EVERYBODY had to throw out their ice cream.

lol lol

Melody

http://www.youtube.com/user/eliz7212?feature=mhum

May 2, 2011 08:39:54 PM, sproutpeople wrote:

===========================================

Dear Melody,

You can tell we both are New Yorkers--although I am in NJ these days.

We lived through many a blackout--brown out, you name it in the City--especially

during the Summer.

And all of your food would go bad if it went on long enough. I still remember

being told to not open the fridge door to keep the cold in!

It is one of the things I like about having sprouts in the house--we will have

plenty of food in case of emergency.

Dr. Rollings

NJ Licensed Psychologist #4686

www.DrnRollings.com

Sent from my iPad

> And what do you do when the electricity goes out??

>

> It's not a dumb question

>

> Melody

> http://www.youtube.com/user/eliz7212?feature=mhum

>

> May 2, 2011 08:24:04 PM, sproutpeople wrote:

>

> ===========================================

>

> In one of the three full sized freezers down celler! We put whole cows, a

couple pigs, several sheep and goats, about 50 chickens, a turkey or three (at

35 pounds each) and who knows how many rabbits. Plus veggies and fruits. Breads

and whatever else needs to be frozen. We do plenty of canning and dehydrating as

well. We store fresh fruit and veggies in the dirt part of the celler as well.

> Yup, we could live for at least a year and never leave the house!!

>

>

>

>

>

> > Where the heck does one store HALF A COW!!!

> >

> > I'm not joking

> >

> > Melody

> > http://www.youtube.com/user/eliz7212?feature=mhum

> >

> > May 2, 2011 02:48:00 PM, sproutpeople wrote:

> >

> > ===========================================

> >

> > Melody,

> >

> > You reminded me of my sister's parents-in-law who were full blooded Germans

living in Hunterdon, NJ. They bought half a cow from a Pennsylvania farmer who

took care of the cow organically. When they got home, they would immediately,

store the meat in packets with right amount per one cooking. They grew their own

chickens, rabbits and pigs for food as well. The beef and pork were stored for

their year-round use. They had an orchard and vegetable farms and a cellar built

on a hill with even temperature year-round also. They made preserves and

pickles. The best apple cider i ever tasted were made by them using antique

wooden implements. They were all so delicious, we eagerly waited for fall when

they made the goodies and they would give us some and also fresh produce.

> >

> > This is what you really call self sufficient. We used to joke them that if a

war broke out we'd go there to them.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > ===========================================

> > >

> > > I am so grateful you put this information on here. I have passed it along

to a health-minded friend who helps raise two little grandsons. Appreciate it!

> > >

> > > I do watch the country (when it says) that it comes from. I appreciate the

info on juice ingredients to know when something is from China etc.

> > >

> > > Phyllis

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Melody, there was a big building in my town that was a frozen food locker. It

was a giant freezer and you could rent 'lockers' inside of it. They were the

about the size of what a large home freeze is now. You put your meat in it and

put your own lock on it. A couple of times a week we would go and put stuff in

or take stuff out. We raised rabbits and chickens and stored the meat there.

Every so often a local farmer would sell a side of beef - that's one half - and

packet for your needs and that would go in there. You had to watch your

inventory carefully so that you wouldn't leave things in too long. Then came big

home freezers and the freezer lockers went out of business. In our town that was

about 1962 or 3. But, there still are companies that have big freezer buildings

where smaller business can rent space.

ew

Re: Re: Fwd: How to identify genetically modified

produce and read Bar C

People can rent freezers? I have never heard of that in my life.

I have to get out more. I would fit right in in those kinds of neighborhood.

I don't know if I'd raise hogs or pigs, but I'd definitely milk a cow. I always

wanted to know what that is like. I'm trying to picture a freezer that would

hold half a cow and that would be for one family, and the cow is all butchered

and packaged?

Holy Cow!!!! LITERALLY!!!

lol

Thanks much for the info.

I love this site.

P.S. I eat Bison, and I can only imagine how much half a bison would cost.

Melody

http://www.youtube.com/user/eliz7212?feature=mhum

May 2, 2011 08:12:12 PM, sproutpeople%2540yahoogroups.com wrote:

===========================================

In the freezer.

Most farm families had huge freezers and bought half a beef or a whole hog,

processed, wrapped and frozen.

Many times, people rented a " locker " at the local butcher or grocery store and

kept their frozen meat there. You could rent different size " drawers " . We did it

when we were first married because we didn't have a freezer. OR - and this

happened to me at least once - you rented one when YOUR freezer stopped working

and you didn't want to lose hundreds of dollars worth of food.

> >

> > ===========================================

> >

> > I am so grateful you put this information on here. I have passed it along

to a health-minded friend who helps raise two little grandsons. Appreciate it!

> >

> > I do watch the country (when it says) that it comes from. I appreciate the

info on juice ingredients to know when something is from China etc.

> >

> > Phyllis

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

It takes days for the freezer to start to thaw out. We do have a generator we

can hook up as needed. It runs the well so we can have water for the critters.

We heat with wood so water and the freezers are our only problem when the

powered go out.

Sent from my iPod

> And what do you do when the electricity goes out??

>

> It's not a dumb question

>

> Melody

> http://www.youtube.com/user/eliz7212?feature=mhum

>

> May 2, 2011 08:24:04 PM, sproutpeople wrote:

>

> ===========================================

>

> In one of the three full sized freezers down celler! We put whole cows, a

couple pigs, several sheep and goats, about 50 chickens, a turkey or three (at

35 pounds each) and who knows how many rabbits. Plus veggies and fruits. Breads

and whatever else needs to be frozen. We do plenty of canning and dehydrating as

well. We store fresh fruit and veggies in the dirt part of the celler as well.

> Yup, we could live for at least a year and never leave the house!!

>

>

>

>

>

> > Where the heck does one store HALF A COW!!!

> >

> > I'm not joking

> >

> > Melody

> > http://www.youtube.com/user/eliz7212?feature=mhum

> >

> > May 2, 2011 02:48:00 PM, sproutpeople wrote:

> >

> > ===========================================

> >

> > Melody,

> >

> > You reminded me of my sister's parents-in-law who were full blooded Germans

living in Hunterdon, NJ. They bought half a cow from a Pennsylvania farmer who

took care of the cow organically. When they got home, they would immediately,

store the meat in packets with right amount per one cooking. They grew their own

chickens, rabbits and pigs for food as well. The beef and pork were stored for

their year-round use. They had an orchard and vegetable farms and a cellar built

on a hill with even temperature year-round also. They made preserves and

pickles. The best apple cider i ever tasted were made by them using antique

wooden implements. They were all so delicious, we eagerly waited for fall when

they made the goodies and they would give us some and also fresh produce.

> >

> > This is what you really call self sufficient. We used to joke them that if a

war broke out we'd go there to them.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > ===========================================

> > >

> > > I am so grateful you put this information on here. I have passed it along

to a health-minded friend who helps raise two little grandsons. Appreciate it!

> > >

> > > I do watch the country (when it says) that it comes from. I appreciate the

info on juice ingredients to know when something is from China etc.

> > >

> > > Phyllis

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Melody,

They have three big freezers. When the cow has been hacked and packed, it is

not as big as the hanging cow anymore. Takes two shelves of a huge freezer.

> >

> > ===========================================

> >

> > I am so grateful you put this information on here. I have passed it along to

a health-minded friend who helps raise two little grandsons. Appreciate it!

> >

> > I do watch the country (when it says) that it comes from. I appreciate the

info on juice ingredients to know when something is from China etc.

> >

> > Phyllis

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Yes, we also called it " a side of beef " . When I saw the reference to " half a

cow " , I immediately thought that they had purchased a half interest in what the

cow produced (as in milk). Never heard it referred to by that name, but our

family bought a side of beef each year. My mom worked graveyard at the hospital,

and every morning when she got home, she would take a package of whatever was to

be for dinner that night, leave it on the counter with directions for me, and I

would start dinner before she got up in the afternoon. Worked a charm!

Peggy

________________________________

To: sproutpeople

Sent: Mon, May 2, 2011 5:22:22 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Fwd: How to identify genetically modified

produce and read Bar C

 

If you aren't joking, I used to buy beef by the side (half a cow) and put it in

the freezer.

Ann

>Where the heck does one store HALF A COW!!!

>

>I'm not joking

>

>Melody

>http://www.youtube.com/user/eliz7212?feature=mhum

>

>May 2, 2011 02:48:00 PM, sproutpeople wrote:

>

>===========================================

>

>Melody,

>

>You reminded me of my sister's parents-in-law who were full blooded Germans

>living in Hunterdon, NJ. They bought half a cow from a Pennsylvania farmer who

>took care of the cow organically. When they got home, they would immediately,

>store the meat in packets with right amount per one cooking. They grew their

own

>chickens, rabbits and pigs for food as well. The beef and pork were stored for

>their year-round use. They had an orchard and vegetable farms and a cellar

built

>on a hill with even temperature year-round also. They made preserves and

>pickles. The best apple cider i ever tasted were made by them using antique

>wooden implements. They were all so delicious, we eagerly waited for fall when

>they made the goodies and they would give us some and also fresh produce.

>

>This is what you really call self sufficient. We used to joke them that if a

war

>broke out we'd go there to them.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>>

>> ===========================================

>>

>> I am so grateful you put this information on here. I have passed it along to

a

>>health-minded friend who helps raise two little grandsons. Appreciate it!

>>

>>

>> I do watch the country (when it says) that it comes from. I appreciate the

info

>>on juice ingredients to know when something is from China etc.

>>

>>

>> Phyllis

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

Melody,

If it were me who had so much raw food stored, and the electricity goes out, i

would cook them in vinegar, salt, ground black pepper, cinnamon leaves, and

garlic. This is almost like pickling the food.

It should stay for a couple of days. Add some drops of cinnamon oil and it

would extend the life longer. Make Chinese ham out of the pork. I don't know

exactly how to do it, i know it is super heavily salted, and then the legs of

ham are left hanging out in the air to dry (uncooked?) in the kitchens. Then

baked or grilled. It is not like the American hams at all, but they do put

pineapple rings and cloves, and sugar on top, which is pressed with hot iron

frying ladle.

It is served with a bit of honey, real tasty.

BTW, they are called " survivalists " .

>

> I never joke. I'm here to learn about how other people buy and store food. I

think it's absolutely fascinating. I have gone on youtube and watched

survivorists (I think that is what they are called) and I saw videos where

people store THOUSANDS of pounds of seeds and water in their basement in case of

a catastrophe. And they have medical kits, etc.

>

> I found it extremely interesting. And I learn new things every day. And I

share what I learn. But my friends still think I'm nuts because I grow sprouts

in my kitchen.

>

> But I don't care. lol

>

> Melody

> http://www.youtube.com/user/eliz7212?feature=mhum

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oh ,

I envy you. You've got a wood stove? Nice. I have a charcoal single unit

cooking stove in the Philippines. When i go back come Jan. i will bring one

back here. Good idea.

>

> It takes days for the freezer to start to thaw out. We do have a generator we

can hook up as needed. It runs the well so we can have water for the critters.

We heat with wood so water and the freezers are our only problem when the

powered go out.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

....and back to identifying GMO for a minute. Just found this in my downloads

folder and thought it might be of interest. Not sure I've got it attached. If I

see that it isn't, I'll try to find the URL. It's a nice synopsis of how to shop

to avoid the GMO stuff.

Peggy

BTW, do the emoticons work for anyone? I've tried using them several times, but

they don't show up in the messages.

________________________________

To: " sproutpeople " <sproutpeople >

Sent: Mon, May 2, 2011 5:55:00 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Fwd: How to identify genetically modified

produce and read Bar C

 

It takes days for the freezer to start to thaw out. We do have a generator we

can hook up as needed. It runs the well so we can have water for the critters.

We heat with wood so water and the freezers are our only problem when the

powered go out.

Sent from my iPod

> And what do you do when the electricity goes out??

>

> It's not a dumb question

>

> Melody

> http://www.youtube.com/user/eliz7212?feature=mhum

>

> May 2, 2011 08:24:04 PM, sproutpeople wrote:

>

> ===========================================

>

> In one of the three full sized freezers down celler! We put whole cows, a

>couple pigs, several sheep and goats, about 50 chickens, a turkey or three (at

>35 pounds each) and who knows how many rabbits. Plus veggies and fruits. Breads

>and whatever else needs to be frozen. We do plenty of canning and dehydrating

as

>well. We store fresh fruit and veggies in the dirt part of the celler as well.

>

> Yup, we could live for at least a year and never leave the house!!

>

>

>

>

>

> > Where the heck does one store HALF A COW!!!

> >

> > I'm not joking

> >

> > Melody

> > http://www.youtube.com/user/eliz7212?feature=mhum

> >

> > May 2, 2011 02:48:00 PM, sproutpeople wrote:

> >

> > ===========================================

> >

> > Melody,

> >

> > You reminded me of my sister's parents-in-law who were full blooded Germans

>living in Hunterdon, NJ. They bought half a cow from a Pennsylvania farmer who

>took care of the cow organically. When they got home, they would immediately,

>store the meat in packets with right amount per one cooking. They grew their

own

>chickens, rabbits and pigs for food as well. The beef and pork were stored for

>their year-round use. They had an orchard and vegetable farms and a cellar

built

>on a hill with even temperature year-round also. They made preserves and

>pickles. The best apple cider i ever tasted were made by them using antique

>wooden implements. They were all so delicious, we eagerly waited for fall when

>they made the goodies and they would give us some and also fresh produce.

> >

> > This is what you really call self sufficient. We used to joke them that if a

>war broke out we'd go there to them.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > ===========================================

> > >

> > > I am so grateful you put this information on here. I have passed it along

>to a health-minded friend who helps raise two little grandsons. Appreciate it!

>

> > >

> > > I do watch the country (when it says) that it comes from. I appreciate the

>info on juice ingredients to know when something is from China etc.

>

> > >

> > > Phyllis

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

That's the word, survivalists. And I just got finished watching the film

EARTHLINGS.

OH MY GOD!!!! I may never look at a piece of meat ever again.

Melody

http://www.youtube.com/user/eliz7212?feature=mhum

May 2, 2011 09:49:21 PM, sproutpeople wrote:

===========================================

Melody,

If it were me who had so much raw food stored, and the electricity goes out, i

would cook them in vinegar, salt, ground black pepper, cinnamon leaves, and

garlic. This is almost like pickling the food.

It should stay for a couple of days. Add some drops of cinnamon oil and it

would extend the life longer. Make Chinese ham out of the pork. I don't know

exactly how to do it, i know it is super heavily salted, and then the legs of

ham are left hanging out in the air to dry (uncooked?) in the kitchens. Then

baked or grilled. It is not like the American hams at all, but they do put

pineapple rings and cloves, and sugar on top, which is pressed with hot iron

frying ladle.

It is served with a bit of honey, real tasty.

BTW, they are called " survivalists " .

>

> I never joke. I'm here to learn about how other people buy and store food. I

think it's absolutely fascinating. I have gone on youtube and watched

survivorists (I think that is what they are called) and I saw videos where

people store THOUSANDS of pounds of seeds and water in their basement in case of

a catastrophe. And they have medical kits, etc.

>

> I found it extremely interesting. And I learn new things every day. And I

share what I learn. But my friends still think I'm nuts because I grow sprouts

in my kitchen.

>

> But I don't care. lol

>

> Melody

> http://www.youtube.com/user/eliz7212?feature=mhum

>

>

------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

How fascinating EW. Thanks for the info!!!

Melody

http://www.youtube.com/user/eliz7212?feature=mhum

May 2, 2011 08:51:52 PM, sproutpeople wrote:

===========================================

Melody, there was a big building in my town that was a frozen food locker. It

was a giant freezer and you could rent 'lockers' inside of it. They were the

about the size of what a large home freeze is now. You put your meat in it and

put your own lock on it. A couple of times a week we would go and put stuff in

or take stuff out. We raised rabbits and chickens and stored the meat there.

Every so often a local farmer would sell a side of beef - that's one half - and

packet for your needs and that would go in there. You had to watch your

inventory carefully so that you wouldn't leave things in too long. Then came big

home freezers and the freezer lockers went out of business. In our town that was

about 1962 or 3. But, there still are companies that have big freezer buildings

where smaller business can rent space.

ew

Re: Re: Fwd: How to identify genetically modified

produce and read Bar C

People can rent freezers? I have never heard of that in my life.

I have to get out more. I would fit right in in those kinds of neighborhood.

I don't know if I'd raise hogs or pigs, but I'd definitely milk a cow. I always

wanted to know what that is like. I'm trying to picture a freezer that would

hold half a cow and that would be for one family, and the cow is all butchered

and packaged?

Holy Cow!!!! LITERALLY!!!

lol

Thanks much for the info.

I love this site.

P.S. I eat Bison, and I can only imagine how much half a bison would cost.

Melody

http://www.youtube.com/user/eliz7212?feature=mhum

May 2, 2011 08:12:12 PM, sproutpeople%2540yahoogroups.com wrote:

===========================================

In the freezer.

Most farm families had huge freezers and bought half a beef or a whole hog,

processed, wrapped and frozen.

Many times, people rented a " locker " at the local butcher or grocery store and

kept their frozen meat there. You could rent different size " drawers " . We did it

when we were first married because we didn't have a freezer. OR - and this

happened to me at least once - you rented one when YOUR freezer stopped working

and you didn't want to lose hundreds of dollars worth of food.

> >

> > ===========================================

> >

> > I am so grateful you put this information on here. I have passed it along

to a health-minded friend who helps raise two little grandsons. Appreciate it!

> >

> > I do watch the country (when it says) that it comes from. I appreciate the

info on juice ingredients to know when something is from China etc.

> >

> > Phyllis

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Ah, I see. thanks much

Melody

http://www.youtube.com/user/eliz7212?feature=mhum

May 2, 2011 08:51:12 PM, sproutpeople wrote:

===========================================

It takes days for the freezer to start to thaw out. We do have a generator we

can hook up as needed. It runs the well so we can have water for the critters.

We heat with wood so water and the freezers are our only problem when the

powered go out.

Sent from my iPod

> And what do you do when the electricity goes out??

>

> It's not a dumb question

>

> Melody

> http://www.youtube.com/user/eliz7212?feature=mhum

>

> May 2, 2011 08:24:04 PM, sproutpeople wrote:

>

> ===========================================

>

> In one of the three full sized freezers down celler! We put whole cows, a

couple pigs, several sheep and goats, about 50 chickens, a turkey or three (at

35 pounds each) and who knows how many rabbits. Plus veggies and fruits. Breads

and whatever else needs to be frozen. We do plenty of canning and dehydrating as

well. We store fresh fruit and veggies in the dirt part of the celler as well.

> Yup, we could live for at least a year and never leave the house!!

>

>

>

>

>

> > Where the heck does one store HALF A COW!!!

> >

> > I'm not joking

> >

> > Melody

> > http://www.youtube.com/user/eliz7212?feature=mhum

> >

> > May 2, 2011 02:48:00 PM, sproutpeople wrote:

> >

> > ===========================================

> >

> > Melody,

> >

> > You reminded me of my sister's parents-in-law who were full blooded Germans

living in Hunterdon, NJ. They bought half a cow from a Pennsylvania farmer who

took care of the cow organically. When they got home, they would immediately,

store the meat in packets with right amount per one cooking. They grew their own

chickens, rabbits and pigs for food as well. The beef and pork were stored for

their year-round use. They had an orchard and vegetable farms and a cellar built

on a hill with even temperature year-round also. They made preserves and

pickles. The best apple cider i ever tasted were made by them using antique

wooden implements. They were all so delicious, we eagerly waited for fall when

they made the goodies and they would give us some and also fresh produce.

> >

> > This is what you really call self sufficient. We used to joke them that if a

war broke out we'd go there to them.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > ===========================================

> > >

> > > I am so grateful you put this information on here. I have passed it along

to a health-minded friend who helps raise two little grandsons. Appreciate it!

> > >

> > > I do watch the country (when it says) that it comes from. I appreciate the

info on juice ingredients to know when something is from China etc.

> > >

> > > Phyllis

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Yup, two wood stoves. One to heat the whole house and one that heats the kitchen

and can be cooked on. We cook breakfast on it most winters. We even did the

whole Thanksgiving day feast in/on it one year. Nothing heats as well as wood

heat!! ( never used charcoal, I assume it heats a lot like wood).

up in Maine

>

> Oh ,

>

> I envy you. You've got a wood stove? Nice. I have a charcoal single unit

cooking stove in the Philippines. When i go back come Jan. i will bring one back

here. Good idea.

>

>

>

>

> >

> > It takes days for the freezer to start to thaw out. We do have a generator

we can hook up as needed. It runs the well so we can have water for the

critters. We heat with wood so water and the freezers are our only problem when

the powered go out.

> >

> >

> >

>

>