Guest guest Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 PLEASE don't use seed packaged for birds-it is treated for mites and is not for human consumption. Yes, you can sprout striped seeds, they just don't have as rich of a taste. As long as you are using organic, raw, untreated-any of them will spout. The easiest and cheapest way to get black oil seeds is to grow them yourself-VERY easy to do! > > Hello all! > > I'm having real trouble getting hold of organic black oil sunflower seeds for sprouting here in Berlin. I'm going to place a big order with sproutpeople and get some at some point but the P & P cost is so high it's only really worth it when I buy LOADS of seed. > > So I want to get hold of a smaller amount of seed in the meantime to grow some sunnies to see if I actually like them! If I do, I'll place a massive order to make the high P & P worth it. > > :-) > > Anyway, I CAN get hold of " normal grey sunflower seeds " - which I use to spout/soak but not grow... can you grow these into greens? If you can, great! Is there any difference in using black ones? > > I can also get regular non-organic bird feed black seeds. But I was wondering if this was totally inappropriate or not OK for human consumption... as I'm not sure what the fundamental difference is between sprout seed and bird seed.... isn't it just the same but sold in a different market? > > Any light shed on this would be much appreciated! > > Laney > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 The other day while I was walking around Shoprite I found myself in the pet aisle. They had this HUGE bag of black oil sunflower seeds. I couldn't even pick it up. It was $1.88. DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY SPROUTS I COULD GROW WITH THIS BAG. I think if I found a smaller bag I'd go for it. I looked at the ingredients and they list stuff like ...crude protein, (and I can't remember the other stuff). I would love to know that I can give this a try. I'm sure others have done this. I mean, I know it's not organic but I wonder exactly how this is grown. Under what conditions I mean. Melody http://www.youtube.com/user/eliz7212?feature=mhum May 1, 2011 11:06:57 AM, sproutpeople wrote: =========================================== Hello all! I'm having real trouble getting hold of organic black oil sunflower seeds for sprouting here in Berlin. I'm going to place a big order with sproutpeople and get some at some point but the P & P cost is so high it's only really worth it when I buy LOADS of seed. So I want to get hold of a smaller amount of seed in the meantime to grow some sunnies to see if I actually like them! If I do, I'll place a massive order to make the high P & P worth it. :-) Anyway, I CAN get hold of " normal grey sunflower seeds " - which I use to spout/soak but not grow... can you grow these into greens? If you can, great! Is there any difference in using black ones? I can also get regular non-organic bird feed black seeds. But I was wondering if this was totally inappropriate or not OK for human consumption... as I'm not sure what the fundamental difference is between sprout seed and bird seed.... isn't it just the same but sold in a different market? Any light shed on this would be much appreciated! Laney ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 Laney, you can go to your local pet food store and get a small two pound bag of black oil seeds that they sell for pet food. I contacted a company the stocked the bird seed at my local store and was told that they were indeed fit for human consumption. The pet food bags have a lot of sticks and plant matter in them, but sort and rinse and you'll be ok. I have heard that in Europe that they do a better job of gowning produce with out all the chemicals that the American farmers dump on theirs. You can grow them into greens in a jar, most any sprouter or in a soil less medium in your window sill. The grey seeds do not do as well sprouting. ew black oil sunflower seeds Hello all! I'm having real trouble getting hold of organic black oil sunflower seeds for sprouting here in Berlin. I'm going to place a big order with sproutpeople and get some at some point but the P & P cost is so high it's only really worth it when I buy LOADS of seed. So I want to get hold of a smaller amount of seed in the meantime to grow some sunnies to see if I actually like them! If I do, I'll place a massive order to make the high P & P worth it. :-) Anyway, I CAN get hold of " normal grey sunflower seeds " - which I use to spout/soak but not grow... can you grow these into greens? If you can, great! Is there any difference in using black ones? I can also get regular non-organic bird feed black seeds. But I was wondering if this was totally inappropriate or not OK for human consumption... as I'm not sure what the fundamental difference is between sprout seed and bird seed.... isn't it just the same but sold in a different market? Any light shed on this would be much appreciated! Laney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 Treated for mites? That did it for me. thanks much Melody http://www.youtube.com/user/eliz7212?feature=mhum May 1, 2011 11:45:06 AM, sproutpeople wrote: =========================================== PLEASE don't use seed packaged for birds-it is treated for mites and is not for human consumption. Yes, you can sprout striped seeds, they just don't have as rich of a taste. As long as you are using organic, raw, untreated-any of them will spout. The easiest and cheapest way to get black oil seeds is to grow them yourself-VERY easy to do! > > Hello all! > > I'm having real trouble getting hold of organic black oil sunflower seeds for sprouting here in Berlin. I'm going to place a big order with sproutpeople and get some at some point but the P & P cost is so high it's only really worth it when I buy LOADS of seed. > > So I want to get hold of a smaller amount of seed in the meantime to grow some sunnies to see if I actually like them! If I do, I'll place a massive order to make the high P & P worth it. > > :-) > > Anyway, I CAN get hold of " normal grey sunflower seeds " - which I use to spout/soak but not grow... can you grow these into greens? If you can, great! Is there any difference in using black ones? > > I can also get regular non-organic bird feed black seeds. But I was wondering if this was totally inappropriate or not OK for human consumption... as I'm not sure what the fundamental difference is between sprout seed and bird seed.... isn't it just the same but sold in a different market? > > Any light shed on this would be much appreciated! > > Laney > ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 But EW, aren't they treated for mites? Won't it have an affect on us if we eat these seeds (after sprouting them). I just want to know if what they use to treat for mites is something we have to be concerned about? Thanks Melody http://www.youtube.com/user/eliz7212?feature=mhum May 1, 2011 11:56:36 AM, sproutpeople wrote: =========================================== Laney, you can go to your local pet food store and get a small two pound bag of black oil seeds that they sell for pet food. I contacted a company the stocked the bird seed at my local store and was told that they were indeed fit for human consumption. The pet food bags have a lot of sticks and plant matter in them, but sort and rinse and you'll be ok. I have heard that in Europe that they do a better job of gowning produce with out all the chemicals that the American farmers dump on theirs. You can grow them into greens in a jar, most any sprouter or in a soil less medium in your window sill. The grey seeds do not do as well sprouting. ew black oil sunflower seeds Hello all! I'm having real trouble getting hold of organic black oil sunflower seeds for sprouting here in Berlin. I'm going to place a big order with sproutpeople and get some at some point but the P & P cost is so high it's only really worth it when I buy LOADS of seed. So I want to get hold of a smaller amount of seed in the meantime to grow some sunnies to see if I actually like them! If I do, I'll place a massive order to make the high P & P worth it. :-) Anyway, I CAN get hold of " normal grey sunflower seeds " - which I use to spout/soak but not grow... can you grow these into greens? If you can, great! Is there any difference in using black ones? I can also get regular non-organic bird feed black seeds. But I was wondering if this was totally inappropriate or not OK for human consumption... as I'm not sure what the fundamental difference is between sprout seed and bird seed.... isn't it just the same but sold in a different market? Any light shed on this would be much appreciated! Laney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 I also called a company and they said they DID treat for mites, so it might be different from place to place. In any case, if they are stored and stocked with other treated pet foods, they wouldn't be safe to my way of thinking, but personal discretion would dictate use. =========================================== Laney, you can go to your local pet food store and get a small two pound bag of black oil seeds that they sell for pet food. I contacted a company the stocked the bird seed at my local store and was told that they were indeed fit for human consumption. The pet food bags have a lot of sticks and plant matter in them, but sort and rinse and you'll be ok. I have heard that in Europe that they do a better job of gowning produce with out all the chemicals that the American farmers dump on theirs. You can grow them into greens in a jar, most any sprouter or in a soil less medium in your window sill. The grey seeds do not do as well sprouting. ew black oil sunflower seeds Hello all! I'm having real trouble getting hold of organic black oil sunflower seeds for sprouting here in Berlin. I'm going to place a big order with sproutpeople and get some at some point but the P & P cost is so high it's only really worth it when I buy LOADS of seed. So I want to get hold of a smaller amount of seed in the meantime to grow some sunnies to see if I actually like them! If I do, I'll place a massive order to make the high P & P worth it. :-) Anyway, I CAN get hold of " normal grey sunflower seeds " - which I use to spout/soak but not grow... can you grow these into greens? If you can, great! Is there any difference in using black ones? I can also get regular non-organic bird feed black seeds. But I was wondering if this was totally inappropriate or not OK for human consumption... as I'm not sure what the fundamental difference is between sprout seed and bird seed.... isn't it just the same but sold in a different market? Any light shed on this would be much appreciated! Laney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 , I don't know how you can tell if the seeds are treated for mites. Does it say on the package? I say to anyone that thinks they might try pet food seeds. To get the name of the packer and call or e-mail first. ew Re: black oil sunflower seeds PLEASE don't use seed packaged for birds-it is treated for mites and is not for human consumption. Yes, you can sprout striped seeds, they just don't have as rich of a taste. As long as you are using organic, raw, untreated-any of them will spout. The easiest and cheapest way to get black oil seeds is to grow them yourself-VERY easy to do! > > Hello all! > > I'm having real trouble getting hold of organic black oil sunflower seeds for sprouting here in Berlin. I'm going to place a big order with sproutpeople and get some at some point but the P & P cost is so high it's only really worth it when I buy LOADS of seed. > > So I want to get hold of a smaller amount of seed in the meantime to grow some sunnies to see if I actually like them! If I do, I'll place a massive order to make the high P & P worth it. > > :-) > > Anyway, I CAN get hold of " normal grey sunflower seeds " - which I use to spout/soak but not grow... can you grow these into greens? If you can, great! Is there any difference in using black ones? > > I can also get regular non-organic bird feed black seeds. But I was wondering if this was totally inappropriate or not OK for human consumption... as I'm not sure what the fundamental difference is between sprout seed and bird seed.... isn't it just the same but sold in a different market? > > Any light shed on this would be much appreciated! > > Laney > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 As someone who grows LOTS of sunflowers, I can tell you that birds LOVE to pick them right off the flower. Commercial growers often spray them to keep the birds from pecking at them until they are ready (although many are grown for the birds anyway) then they are treated with chemicals to remove the stuff that was sprayed on in the first place. Not for me, thanks! =========================================== Hello all! I'm having real trouble getting hold of organic black oil sunflower seeds for sprouting here in Berlin. I'm going to place a big order with sproutpeople and get some at some point but the P & P cost is so high it's only really worth it when I buy LOADS of seed. So I want to get hold of a smaller amount of seed in the meantime to grow some sunnies to see if I actually like them! If I do, I'll place a massive order to make the high P & P worth it. :-) Anyway, I CAN get hold of " normal grey sunflower seeds " - which I use to spout/soak but not grow... can you grow these into greens? If you can, great! Is there any difference in using black ones? I can also get regular non-organic bird feed black seeds. But I was wondering if this was totally inappropriate or not OK for human consumption... as I'm not sure what the fundamental difference is between sprout seed and bird seed.... isn't it just the same but sold in a different market? Any light shed on this would be much appreciated! Laney ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 I am not sure how you would tell for sure, EW. I wanted to use them to PLANT to grow seeds from, so I contacted several companies who told me they wouldn't sprout anyway, since they were treated...yet one company assured me that although they wouldn't sprout, they were " safe " ....too risky and questionable for me. I would think there are some that are safe, but again, they would be stocked and stored right along with the treated stuff. Shame, since they are so cheap. I was also told years back (not sure how much truth to the statement) that old seeds that are no longer fit for human consumption or have been stored in silos too long are often transferred for pet food. I know silos are a haven for rodents and larvae, so I steer clear, when I can. Subject: Re: Re: black oil sunflower seeds To: sproutpeople Date: Sunday, May 1, 2011, 12:05 PM  , I don't know how you can tell if the seeds are treated for mites. Does it say on the package? I say to anyone that thinks they might try pet food seeds. To get the name of the packer and call or e-mail first. ew Re: black oil sunflower seeds PLEASE don't use seed packaged for birds-it is treated for mites and is not for human consumption. Yes, you can sprout striped seeds, they just don't have as rich of a taste. As long as you are using organic, raw, untreated-any of them will spout. The easiest and cheapest way to get black oil seeds is to grow them yourself-VERY easy to do! > > Hello all! > > I'm having real trouble getting hold of organic black oil sunflower seeds for sprouting here in Berlin. I'm going to place a big order with sproutpeople and get some at some point but the P & P cost is so high it's only really worth it when I buy LOADS of seed. > > So I want to get hold of a smaller amount of seed in the meantime to grow some sunnies to see if I actually like them! If I do, I'll place a massive order to make the high P & P worth it. > > :-) > > Anyway, I CAN get hold of " normal grey sunflower seeds " - which I use to spout/soak but not grow... can you grow these into greens? If you can, great! Is there any difference in using black ones? > > I can also get regular non-organic bird feed black seeds. But I was wondering if this was totally inappropriate or not OK for human consumption... as I'm not sure what the fundamental difference is between sprout seed and bird seed.... isn't it just the same but sold in a different market? > > Any light shed on this would be much appreciated! > > Laney > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 The olny thing that I can tell you is that I picked up a bag of seeds in Walmart to put in my bird feeders. They looked just like the seeds that I had purchased from Tribest. I called the number that was on the bag. A company here in CA. I was told that their seeds were fit for human consumption and that a lot of people he knew sprouted them. You'll have to contact the company the packs the seeds that are in your store. ew Re: Re: black oil sunflower seeds But EW, aren't they treated for mites? Won't it have an affect on us if we eat these seeds (after sprouting them). I just want to know if what they use to treat for mites is something we have to be concerned about? Thanks Melody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 Thanks EW. I will give this some thought. Melody http://www.youtube.com/user/eliz7212?feature=mhum May 1, 2011 01:37:29 PM, sproutpeople wrote: =========================================== The olny thing that I can tell you is that I picked up a bag of seeds in Walmart to put in my bird feeders. They looked just like the seeds that I had purchased from Tribest. I called the number that was on the bag. A company here in CA. I was told that their seeds were fit for human consumption and that a lot of people he knew sprouted them. You'll have to contact the company the packs the seeds that are in your store. ew Re: Re: black oil sunflower seeds But EW, aren't they treated for mites? Won't it have an affect on us if we eat these seeds (after sprouting them). I just want to know if what they use to treat for mites is something we have to be concerned about? Thanks Melody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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