Guest guest Posted December 28, 2004 Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 Theresa wrote: >My nada has now started the ole calling over and over and over again >when I do not answer the phone. I suppose she knows it's agitating... You could take your phone off the hook or get an unlisted number. There is no way I would handle that kind of behavior from my nada. Sounds like a power struggle going on. The unfortunate part is that your daughter is caught in the middle of it. Can you possibly move??????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2004 Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 Theresa wrote: >My nada has now started the ole calling over and over and over again >when I do not answer the phone. I suppose she knows it's agitating... You could take your phone off the hook or get an unlisted number. There is no way I would handle that kind of behavior from my nada. Sounds like a power struggle going on. The unfortunate part is that your daughter is caught in the middle of it. Can you possibly move??????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2004 Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 Okay Theresa, What you are describing is harassment. Bullying, plain and simple. You need to change your phone number immendiately and then make it unlisted so that Nada can't see the number on her end. The phone is a tool for your convienience, not the convienience of others. Here is some info on phone harrasment. It is a crime. How to Handle Telephone Harassment *Hang up, without delay, on any obscene, harassing or threatening telephone calls. *If such calls occur more than once, notify the telephone company they can attach a device to your circuit that automatically traces all your calls-all you have to do is write down the exact time the call came in and they can tell you who made the call); you must be willing, however, to prosecute the guilty party. *If any threats are made to you via the telephone, notify police. *Use an unlisted telephone number (or have your number changed) if the calls continue or do this to prevent any such calls. *Single women: do not list your first and middle name in the telephone directory; use initials only: e.g.: instead of Ann , it should be M.A. *When answering the telephone, never indicate if you are alone or when you will be coming or leaving to any stranger. *If you know who the harassing caller is, file a complaint against the person with the local district justice. DON'T LET NADA CONTINUE TO ABUSE YOU!!! You have already told her you would call the cops again if she tried to break into your house (again), so don't let her use the phone to continue the emotional abuse. Be strong! Has your daughter made any decisions about moving to the boarding school now that she has returned from her visit there? Have you thought any further about moving away...perhaps closer to your sister? Di. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2004 Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 Okay Theresa, What you are describing is harassment. Bullying, plain and simple. You need to change your phone number immendiately and then make it unlisted so that Nada can't see the number on her end. The phone is a tool for your convienience, not the convienience of others. Here is some info on phone harrasment. It is a crime. How to Handle Telephone Harassment *Hang up, without delay, on any obscene, harassing or threatening telephone calls. *If such calls occur more than once, notify the telephone company they can attach a device to your circuit that automatically traces all your calls-all you have to do is write down the exact time the call came in and they can tell you who made the call); you must be willing, however, to prosecute the guilty party. *If any threats are made to you via the telephone, notify police. *Use an unlisted telephone number (or have your number changed) if the calls continue or do this to prevent any such calls. *Single women: do not list your first and middle name in the telephone directory; use initials only: e.g.: instead of Ann , it should be M.A. *When answering the telephone, never indicate if you are alone or when you will be coming or leaving to any stranger. *If you know who the harassing caller is, file a complaint against the person with the local district justice. DON'T LET NADA CONTINUE TO ABUSE YOU!!! You have already told her you would call the cops again if she tried to break into your house (again), so don't let her use the phone to continue the emotional abuse. Be strong! Has your daughter made any decisions about moving to the boarding school now that she has returned from her visit there? Have you thought any further about moving away...perhaps closer to your sister? Di. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 o.k. guys - if I make my phone number unlisted that means I cannot give it to any of the homeschoolers because someone would give it to nada. Even then I still think nada would be able to find my phone number somehow. She likes to call people pretending she is me. She called that school up there my daughter went to pretending she was me. She would do the same thing otherwise. She has even pretended she was her husband on some phone calls. She told me about that. What do I do about this kid if she keeps using nada's techniques? I am guessing the kid's mother does not know about it. It's another one of nada's games for me to contact this mother so that I can look paranoid again !! NOt to mention I am having job problems at this time - I am at risk of losing my job and I do not need to deal with any extras. My daughter did like her retreat up at the school but is not sure yet that she should go to school there, so we have to wait until maybe the summer to tell that when she goes up there for a month. So far I have not considered moving yet - right now I am just trying to keep my job. If I move close to my sister it would have to be living with my sister and I am such a want to be alone person I don't know if I would be really happy doing that or not. Theresa On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 11:16:20 -0000, bigmoomin1 wrote: > > > Hi Theresa! > > Di is so right about this!!! I had the same experience of harrasment > from Christmas -03 to march -04 by nada with my brothers and father. > We told her that the police would be involved if she didn't stop - I > started to jump everytime my phone rang and got real anxious over the > phone ringing wheather it was her or not. I could not answer to > important phone calls because of the trauma. > > Her excuse was that she has a right to call when ever she wants and > say what ever she wants and people should not take it so seriously - > on the contrary - take it seriously, so seriously that she will get > the picture. This is one of the things that are regulated by the law > all over the world, so you are able to really show her that she has > not got the right to do what ever she wants. There are other things > that are more difficult to prove than phone harrashment. > > Take care, BM > > > > > > Okay Theresa, > > What you are describing is harassment. Bullying, plain and simple. > > You need to change your phone number immendiately and then make it > > unlisted so that Nada can't see the number on her end. The phone is > > a tool for your convienience, not the convienience of others. > > > Here is some info on phone harrasment. It is a crime. > > > Di. > > > Send questions and/or concerns to ModOasis-owner > " Stop Walking on Eggshells, " a primer for non-BPs, can be ordered via 1-888-35-SHELL () and for the table of contents, go to: > http://www.BPDCentral.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 Yes, there is a power struggle. I do not let my nada drive my 14-year-old daughter anywhere any more and my daughter actually told nada the other day why she does not want to even ride with nada any more and my daughter said to nada she understood why I made my decision and that I am her mom and have the right to do such things. So I guess nada has no power because she can't drive daughter anywhere. So she is going to try to get under my skin some other way. I guess next time she keeps calling over and over I will have to tell her that if she keeps it up I will call the police. Then she can go call all her croonies telling them I threatened to call the police on my innocent mother just because she wanted to call on the telephone. Whatever. I really don't care any more who she talks to. I just have to focus on my job to keep from losing it. I do not know if there is any point in me telling my supervisor I am dealing with stress from hell from nada emotionally abusing my kid. Theresa > > > Theresa wrote: > >My nada has now started the ole calling over and over and over again > >when I do not answer the phone. I suppose she knows it's agitating... > > You could take your phone off the hook or get an unlisted number. > There is no way I would handle that kind of behavior from my nada. > Sounds like a power struggle going on. The unfortunate part is that > your daughter is caught in the middle of it. Can you possibly > move??????? > > > Send questions and/or concerns to ModOasis-owner > " Stop Walking on Eggshells, " a primer for non-BPs, can be ordered via 1-888-35-SHELL () and for the table of contents, go to: > http://www.BPDCentral.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 I posted that one local plan will now pay forthisI otherwise have not billed for them or charged-I deflect to real visits or e visit or just do not chargeOthers have done differntly i think.. Eads?Jean I remember a recent post , I think from Jean? about being paid for telephone calls. I have a question. Has anyone billed for phone calls ( after 7 days after last visit etc>>>) If you have, is it denied as a non- covered service. If that is the case - can you bill the patient for it? Thanks -- If you are a patient please allow up to 24 hours for a reply by email/please note the new email address.Remember that e-mail may not be entirely secure/ MD ph fax impcenter.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Yes, we’ve billed for it and been paid. The HMO patients were paid for. Aetna and BC denied as non-covered. We have it specifically listed in our “non-covered services” section of our financial policy. Patients have been happy to pay because it saves them an office visit and is not that much more than a copay. Our charges were $30-$45. We’ve never billed a 99443, which is for > 20 minutes. Anything that long and they really should be coming to the office anyways. Pratt Office Manager Oak Tree Internal Medicine P.C Roy Medical Associates, Inc. From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Sangeetha Murthy Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 9:04 AM To: Subject: Phone calls I remember a recent post , I think from Jean? about being paid for telephone calls. I have a question. Has anyone billed for phone calls ( after 7 days after last visit etc>>>) If you have, is it denied as a non- covered service. If that is the case - can you bill the patient for it? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Oh thanks. More qs tnough. Do you explicitly ask the patient every time they call, OR have them sign the policy OR offer a dedicated timeslot for the same... Definitley going to try. I can see it can be very useful sangeetha Phone calls I remember a recent post , I think from Jean? about being paid for telephone calls. I have a question. Has anyone billed for phone calls ( after 7 days after last visit etc>>>) If you have, is it denied as a non- covered service. If that is the case - can you bill the patient for it? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 You can’t bill for a phone call unless it’s to replace an office visit. The patients sign once that they agree to our financial and office policies (those are available on the website at www.prattmd.info if you want to review them). Non-covered services are part of the financial policies. Typically the phone calls are done after regular business hours or during lunch. There are other restrictions, such as if you see the patient within 24 hours, you can’t bill for the phone call – or if you saw the patient within the past 7 days for the same reason. We remind patients when they schedule the “phone visit” that there will be a charge of $30-$60 dollars, depending upon the length of the call. Pratt Office Manager Oak Tree Internal Medicine P.C Roy Medical Associates, Inc. From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Sangeethamurthy@... Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 4:12 PM To: Subject: Re: RE: Phone calls Oh thanks. More qs tnough. Do you explicitly ask the patient every time they call, OR have them sign the policy OR offer a dedicated timeslot for the same... Definitley going to try. I can see it can be very useful sangeetha----- Original message ----- Yes, we've billed for it and been paid. The HMO patients were paid for. Aetna and BC denied as non-covered. We have it specifically listed in our " non-covered services " section of our financial policy. Patients have been happy to pay because it saves them an office visit and is not that much more than a copay. Our charges were $30-$45. We've never billed a 99443, which is for > 20 minutes. Anything that long and they really should be coming to the office anyways. Pratt Office Manager Oak Tree Internal Medicine P.C Roy Medical Associates, Inc. _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Sangeetha Murthy Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 9:04 AM To: Subject: Phone calls I remember a recent post , I think from Jean? about being paid for telephone calls. I have a question. Has anyone billed for phone calls ( after 7 days after last visit etc>>>) If you have, is it denied as a non- covered service. If that is the case - can you bill the patient for it? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 I have billed to one medical assistant carrier and been paid ($3)!! My out of network patients are happy to pay for phone care b/c cheaper than in office care. I do not do it often, as I am still more comfortable seeing a patient in the office. However, it has been successful on those rare occasions that I have utilized this type of care for these patients. The trick for me seems to be setting the expectation. If the patient is accustomed to free phone advice, they will hardly be willing to pay for the same. I try to keep most tele conversations to 5 minutes or less and have even used a timer to help me control this on my end. Most of the time, the conversation is well under 5 minutes and I am surprised at this. The few phone consults I have done have been “scheduled”. I actually schedule a time to call the patient so that we do not end up in phone tag. That helps set the stage for this being a real billable visit. Ramona Ramona G. Seidel, MD www.baycrossingfamilymedicine.com Your Bridge to Health NOTE NEW ADDRESS AND PHONE NUMBER: 269 Peninsula Farm Road Suite F Arnold, MD 21012 410 518-9808 From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Sangeetha Murthy Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 12:04 PM To: Subject: Phone calls I remember a recent post , I think from Jean? about being paid for telephone calls. I have a question. Has anyone billed for phone calls ( after 7 days after last visit etc>>>) If you have, is it denied as a non- covered service. If that is the case - can you bill the patient for it? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 I remember a recent post , I think from Jean? about being paid for telephone calls. I have a question. Has anyone billed for phone calls ( after 7 days after last visit etc>>>) yes If you have, is it denied as a non- covered service. yes If that is the case - can you bill the patient for it? yes Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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