Guest guest Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 Finally the recipe! :-) but I seriously wonder if the MMS is necessary at all. I wonder if his constant intake of the sulfur in MSM is what is working. Of course I realize that even straight, unacidified MMS diluted in water will make a certain amount of chlorine dioxide in the stomach. But it seems he was taking that and still feeling sick. By adding the MSM he has bypassed the ill feeling. Yet I wonder if the MSM is buffering the the MMS or if it is deactivating the MMS. When the lady I know did the transdermal DMSO/MMS (for her uterine cancer) she said she did feel better, but it did nothing for the cancer. That was pretty much straight DMSO and AMMS (this was the second version of the transdermal application via cancertutor). The MSM she used after was to stop the itching of the DMSO. Now I wonder about this--does the MSM stop MMS? Would this have contributed to the MMS not helping with the cancer, and the feeling better simply being a result of needed sulfur? We all seem to be lacking that today. I guess we'd need a chemist to explain the relationship between MMS and MSM. And to explain both the relationship between sodium chlorite (straight MMS) and chlorine dioxide (when the MMS is activated) with MSM. I'd be very interested in knowing this. Samala, -------Original Message------- Probably you have not gone into the link and read the contents.Initially,like you, I was also skeptical about his claims. But after going through the link,( http://www.scribd.com/doc/26970402 ) it is very clear that he gives detailed account of what he does.Someone has posted the details in Scribd. I request you to go through the link and come to whatever conclusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 Hey hhope. How long do you think your recipe keeps? He mentioned he only keeps his about 24 hours before making a fresh batch--but as you say, a person doesn't drink this gallon in one day. Still--doesn't answer the question of if the MSM is enhancing or nullifying the MMS, and if the benefit is simply from the intake of MSM. Seems I recall that you took regular AMMS for long periods of time. Did you find that alone was enough, or were you also taking the MSM water? So many people have gotten great results on the regular (and new) protocol of AMMS. Of course there were always some that have been unable to tolerate this, as it seems Roy was. Which is what makes me wonder if he was actually getting MMS/chlorine dioxide in his system, or if the MSM water was what was doing 'the trick' for him and stopping all negative physical feelings. Was it truly buffering the MMS? Or simply nullifying it? Way before MMS I took Cell Food and had wonderful results. Cell Food was not marketed as a mineral supplement, but as an oxygen provider. At the time hardly anyone knew of sodium chlorite solutions so I have no idea of Cell Food contained it or a derivative of it, which is where they got their 'oxygen provider' from. I have not ever tried any other oxygen supplement. Dang, wish we had a chemist here. :-) Samala, -------Original Message------- Here is the best recipe I have found same principal with cell food added, or if one can't afford use cell salts. Take cell salts as instructed under tongue do not add to MSM MMS water. Also I would use glass not plastic. To make a bottle of "MSM MMS water" do the following: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 This is an excellent point. If it works properly then why would you have to keep taking it after it's supposed to have done the job? That would put you in the same snake pit that conventional mainstream medicine would have us all in, dependent for life on a drug or drugs with no end to it. No one should have to go through life being a slave to their health. Betsy ♫ From: johnmagal <johnmagal@...>Subject: [ ] Re: MMS-LITE is here Date: Saturday, February 20, 2010, 10:25 AM at first sight this seems to be advertising in it's purest form, but gee, the guy has been using MMS for a year and still needs it? Is he telling us that MMS doesn't work? The quoted Dr Kehr's OCC makes it appear that all it takes is two spaced 4 day treatments. go www.cancertutor. com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 The OCC does not work for everyone. This is a THEORY. In other words, it looks good on paper. And a few people have been helped, but others have not. When my friend did it, following directions exactly, as I said she felt better, but it didn't effect her tumor or cancer at all. She died of it later. She followed the second method which lasted 5 or 7 days (can't remember now)--I believe what cancertutor is promoting now is the third or even perhaps fourth protocol. After she followed the OCC she wrote to the owner of cancertutor. He told her that it was pretty much just a theory protocol, it SHOULD work, but that only 3 people had tried it, and no one had reported any benefits from it. Remember, too, that every person is different. For some people MMS was THE thing that got them well. For others, it not only didn't do anything, but also made them feel worse. And some of those people, like Roy, tried the MMS protocol for long periods of time, without finding any relief from the nausea and/or diarrhea. I always tell people that MMS is the extreme product. It totally depends on the person taking it. It can give a person tremendous energy or totally sap them, it makes some happy, some mean, it makes some super hungry and others it cuts the appetite so much they loose weight. On and on. For every person that you can find one result from MMS, you can find someone who got the opposite result. For some it never worked at all. For others it was an immediate relief. It's an amazing thing, but must be treated with respect. It's MEDICINE, not food, nor a supplement. Samala, -------Original Message------- , but gee, the guy has been using MMS for a year and still needs it? Is he telling us that MMS doesn't work? The quoted Dr Kehr's OCC makes it appear that all it takes is two spaced 4 day treatments. go www.cancertutor.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 I would love to see what the correlation between MMS and the blood type theories!!!! I think that would explain the wide variance in results!! : ) Lainey On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 10:52:24 -0600 (Central Standard Time) "" <gaiacita@...> writes: The OCC does not work for everyone. This is a THEORY. In other words, it looks good on paper. And a few people have been helped, but others have not. When my friend did it, following directions exactly, as I said she felt better, but it didn't effect her tumor or cancer at all. She died of it later. She followed the second method which lasted 5 or 7 days (can't remember now)--I believe what cancertutor is promoting now is the third or even perhaps fourth protocol. After she followed the OCC she wrote to the owner of cancertutor. He told her that it was pretty much just a theory protocol, it SHOULD work, but that only 3 people had tried it, and no one had reported any benefits from it. Remember, too, that every person is different. For some people MMS was THE thing that got them well. For others, it not only didn't do anything, but also made them feel worse. And some of those people, like Roy, tried the MMS protocol for long periods of time, without finding any relief from the nausea and/or diarrhea. I always tell people that MMS is the extreme product. It totally depends on the person taking it. It can give a person tremendous energy or totally sap them, it makes some happy, some mean, it makes some super hungry and others it cuts the appetite so much they loose weight. On and on. For every person that you can find one result from MMS, you can find someone who got the opposite result. For some it never worked at all. For others it was an immediate relief. It's an amazing thing, but must be treated with respect. It's MEDICINE, not food, nor a supplement. Samala, -------Original Message------- , but gee, the guy has been using MMS for a year and still needs it? Is he telling us that MMS doesn't work? The quoted Dr Kehr's OCC makes it appear that all it takes is two spaced 4 day treatments. go www.cancertutor.com ____________________________________________________________ Small Business ToolsCompete with the big boys. Click here to find products to benefit your business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 Absolutely! -------Original Message------- still think daily prevention with MMS MSM and supplements is better than treating disease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 On 2/20/2010 9:14 AM, Joe wrote: > Your skepticism is noted, however he describes not only his thinking > but the process in this paper. Personally, I think it deserves a > second look ....... objective. > Probably you have not gone into the link and read the contents. > Initially, like you, I was also skeptical about his claims. But after > going through the link,( http://www.scribd.com/doc/26970402) I only went to the website - his blog or whatever - the first time someone brought this up, and nowhere on there does he outline the ingredients or formula. On the above scribd link he does... But I'm wondering why he doesn't on his website? Ahh... because he *charges* for it... no worries, but did whoever posted iut top scribd violate the copyright terms? Or did Roy give his permission to give it away like Jim did? -- Best regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 Well, I'm asking someone on another list what he thinks of the MSM/MMS combo, chemically. He hasn't answered yet, but someone posted this--which means that a person is pretty much defeating their purpose by taking the 2 together. If MSM is a super antioxidant and MMS is an oxident--they are at cross purposes, and if there's a lot more MSM than MMS then the MSM could potentially neutralize the MMS. Which means the major benefits people are feeling from taking this mix is probably more from the daily intake of MSM. When the other person posts I'll pass that on. MMS Lite and taking it with MSM, from this site http://www.msm-info.com/ it says “MSM is a strong antioxidant “. It also says a bit about detoxification: “MSM is known to dissolve in many organic and inorganic compounds (1). Bound to the mucosa and split into an electron deficient group CH3SO2. , MSM reacts with toxins, affects inactivation and speeds excretion (4). Furthermore, MSM enhances the permeability of cell membranes, making it easier for nutrients to be taken up by the cells, and waste products to be eliminated. Practically speaking, MSM drastically increases the ability of cells to excrete toxic waste products. Many health practitioners working with MSM will state, that it is the most powerful detoxifying nutraceutical or pharmaceutical agent they have ever worked with.” So that would suggest MSM could neutralise MMS somewhat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 ЙÐЙффчSent from my iPod Touch.On 20.02.2010, at 07:52, "Joe" <cashew21@...> wrote:  Just finished reading this paper .... very interesting approach. Has anyone considered using MMS2 instead of the straight MMS? Cashew > > Details of "MMS-LITE", claimed as a super and spectacular improvement over normal MMS1, by Roi is here. > > http://www.scribd.com/doc/26970402 > > I just come across this link by simple search in 'Scribd'. > Here is weblog of Roi giving his day-today experiences with MMS-Lite. > http://houseofbugs.com/weblog/?site_id=309 > > If it is really as it is claimed by the author, it can be surely a good breakthrough.I wish some of us can try and check the validity of the claims. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 I've looked at some research on what MSM is, and Dr. Jakobs, who is probably one of the experts on MSM and definitely THE expert on its cousin, DMSO, says they are both antioxidants, though DMSO is the stronger one. Here's a good article by him on MSM. http://www.thenutritionreporter.com/MSM_and_DMSO.html Samala, -------Original Message------- However, I still regard it as useful to apply activated MMS on the skin for topical treatment of local infections and tumours. While MSM is less effective as a carrier than DMSO, it does improve passage through the skin, and it is not an antioxidant, so it is safe to use with MMS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 Sorry, the author of the article is Jack Challem, but he's quoting Dr. . -- Re: [ ] Re: MMS-LITE is here I've looked at some research on what MSM is, and Dr. Jakobs, who is probably one of the experts on MSM and definitely THE expert on its cousin, DMSO, says they are both antioxidants, though DMSO is the stronger one. Here's a good article by him on MSM. http://www.thenutritionreporter.com/MSM_and_DMSO.html Samala, -------Original Message------- However, I still regard it as useful to apply activated MMS on the skin for topical treatment of local infections and tumours. While MSM is less effective as a carrier than DMSO, it does improve passage through the skin, and it is not an antioxidant, so it is safe to use with MMS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 I feel that person responsible for investigating & making available the MMS-lite should be commended for his research & efforts. Having read the information very thoroughly a number of times it is my belief that it is well worth looking into. Nowhere can I find that he is selling the product. It does appear however that he is producing an eBook regarding MMS-lite which he will sell for $19.95 when it is completed & donate some of the proceeds to charity. I've downloaded the 6 pages describing the process of manufacture & I really can't see why the need for an eBook as it is quite complete in & of itself! I've also made some general editing of the article to make it easier to read...no changes to the words or text. If anyone would like a copy I could convert it to a pdf file & place in the files section of the group if that is permitted. It is quite difficult to read on the webpage & unless you scroll right through you are likely to only read the first page & miss the rest as I did on my first few attempts to find out what it was all about. In my opinion it would seem initially that MMS-lite has more going for it than MMS2 so far as ease of preparation, absorption & lack of side effects with bonus benefits from the use of MSM as a buffer & sulphur additive. Rob I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users.It has removed 12674 spam emails to date.Paying users do not have this message in their emails.Try SPAMfighter for free now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 Hi Rob. I would be interested in this information. Many thanks Orrilia From: Rob Lowe <rob@...> Sent: Sun, February 21, 2010 7:47:50 PMSubject: Re: [ ] Re: MMS-LITE is here I feel that person responsible for investigating & making available the MMS-lite should be commended for his research & efforts. Having read the information very thoroughly a number of times it is my belief that it is well worth looking into. Nowhere can I find that he is selling the product. It does appear however that he is producing an eBook regarding MMS-lite which he will sell for $19.95 when it is completed & donate some of the proceeds to charity. I've downloaded the 6 pages describing the process of manufacture & I really can't see why the need for an eBook as it is quite complete in & of itself! I've also made some general editing of the article to make it easier to read...no changes to the words or text. If anyone would like a copy I could convert it to a pdf file & place in the files section of the group if that is permitted. It is quite difficult to read on the webpage & unless you scroll right through you are likely to only read the first page & miss the rest as I did on my first few attempts to find out what it was all about. In my opinion it would seem initially that MMS-lite has more going for it than MMS2 so far as ease of preparation, absorption & lack of side effects with bonus benefits from the use of MSM as a buffer & sulphur additive. Rob I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users.It has removed 12674 spam emails to date.Paying users do not have this message in their emails.Try SPAMfighter for free now! Reply to sender | Reply to group Messages in this topic (30) Recent Activity: New Members 16 Visit Your Group Start a New Topic Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use .. Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 I don't know whether will permit a pdf attachment to this Group but I'll give it a go...otherwise I'll send it direct to your email address. Rob Re: [ ] Re: MMS-LITE is here I feel that person responsible for investigating & making available the MMS-lite should be commended for his research & efforts. Having read the information very thoroughly a number of times it is my belief that it is well worth looking into. Nowhere can I find that he is selling the product. It does appear however that he is producing an eBook regarding MMS-lite which he will sell for $19.95 when it is completed & donate some of the proceeds to charity. I've downloaded the 6 pages describing the process of manufacture & I really can't see why the need for an eBook as it is quite complete in & of itself! I've also made some general editing of the article to make it easier to read...no changes to the words or text. If anyone would like a copy I could convert it to a pdf file & place in the files section of the group if that is permitted. It is quite difficult to read on the webpage & unless you scroll right through you are likely to only read the first page & miss the rest as I did on my first few attempts to find out what it was all about. In my opinion it would seem initially that MMS-lite has more going for it than MMS2 so far as ease of preparation, absorption & lack of side effects with bonus benefits from the use of MSM as a buffer & sulphur additive. Rob I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users.It has removed 12674 spam emails to date.Paying users do not have this message in their emails.Try SPAMfighter for free now! Reply to sender | Reply to group Messages in this topic (30) Recent Activity: New Members 16 Visit Your Group Start a New Topic Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use .. Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users.It has removed 12674 spam emails to date.Paying users do not have this message in their emails.Try SPAMfighter for free now! 1 of 1 File(s) MMS-lite.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 It's right down the very bottom of the page on the left hand side. RE: [ ] Re: MMS-LITE is here It doesn't look like the attachment came through. Can you print out the text within your email rather than as a separate attachment? If not, I'd appreciate getting one sent directly to my email.Thanks.Sally A. Schreiber________________________________I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users.It has removed 12674 spam emails to date.Paying users do not have this message in their emails.Try SPAMfighter for free now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 Here it is again. RobI am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users.It has removed 12674 spam emails to date.Paying users do not have this message in their emails.Try SPAMfighter for free now! 1 of 1 File(s) MMS-lite.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010  Why no Nausea? The reason you do not become nausiated using MMS-LITE is because The carrier used is MSM mixed with MMS.....MSM is an antioxidant and MMS is an oxidant...The msm neutralizes the mms so that there is little effect..So no nausea..The MMS is neutralized so that it is not effective.as a Germ Killer..This is a logical theory.. Re: [ ] Re: MMS-LITE is here I feel that person responsible for investigating & making available the MMS-lite should be commended for his research & efforts. Having read the information very thoroughly a number of times it is my belief that it is well worth looking into. Nowhere can I find that he is selling the product. It does appear however that he is producing an eBook regarding MMS-lite which he will sell for $19.95 when it is completed & donate some of the proceeds to charity. I've downloaded the 6 pages describing the process of manufacture & I really can't see why the need for an eBook as it is quite complete in & of itself! I've also made some general editing of the article to make it easier to read...no changes to the words or text. If anyone would like a copy I could convert it to a pdf file & place in the files section of the group if that is permitted. It is quite difficult to read on the webpage & unless you scroll right through you are likely to only read the first page & miss the rest as I did on my first few attempts to find out what it was all about. In my opinion it would seem initially that MMS-lite has more going for it than MMS2 so far as ease of preparation, absorption & lack of side effects with bonus benefits from the use of MSM as a buffer & sulphur additive. Rob I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users.It has removed 12674 spam emails to date.Paying users do not have this message in their emails.Try SPAMfighter for free now! Reply to sender | Reply to group Messages in this topic (30) Recent Activity: New Members 16 Visit Your Group Start a New Topic Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use .. Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 On 2010-02-21 7:47 PM, Rob Lowe wrote: > Having read the information very thoroughly a number of times it is my > belief that it is well worth looking into. Nowhere can I find that he is > selling the product. It does appear however that he is producing an > eBook regarding MMS-lite which he will sell for $19.95 when it is > completed & donate some of the proceeds to charity. > > I've downloaded the 6 pages describing the process of manufacture & I > really can't see why the need for an eBook as it is quite complete in & > of itself! did anyone determine whether or not the info on the scribd site was posted in violation of the guys copyright or not yet? > In my opinion it would seem initially that MMS-lite has more going for > it than MMS2 so far as ease of preparation, absorption & lack of side > effects with bonus benefits from the use of MSM as a buffer & sulphur > additive. MMS2 and MMS-Lite have nothing whatsoever to do with each other, they are totally different things. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 On 2010-02-20 9:22 PM, Louise wrote: > I'm currently trying the MSM2 Louise, this must not have been a typo because you used this consistently, so I thought I'd just make a correction for anyone reading... MSM and MMS are totally different things, and you were apparently talking about MMS, not MSM... -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 What does this have to do with MMS-Lite?? On 2010-02-22 11:58 AM, Joe wrote: > Although I don't have a firm grasp on the chemistry of these > compounds, I suspect that the molecule in which we are interested is > hypochlorous acid. So, here are two citations that I'm hoping that > somebody can interpret towards a layman's understanding. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypochlorous_acid > > http://www.reflux-relief.com/ > > There seems to be little doubt about the acid being a bactericide > but what about the action on other aspects of the human organism; such as > lipids, tumors, ATP processes, etc.? If anyone has some input on these > ...... I am all ears. > Cashew > > --- In , " Alvin Rose " <ajroseca@...> wrote: >> >> Why no Nausea? >> The reason you do not become nausiated using MMS-LITE is because >> The carrier used is MSM mixed with MMS.....MSM is an antioxidant >> and MMS is an oxidant...The msm neutralizes the mms so that there >> is little effect..So no nausea..The MMS is neutralized so that it is not -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 MMS-lite uses MMS1 which has nothing to do with Hypochlorous acid which is MMS2 ....it is two different protocols of jim Humble Re: [ ] Re: MMS-LITE is here What does this have to do with MMS-Lite??On 2010-02-22 11:58 AM, Joe wrote:> Although I don't have a firm grasp on the chemistry of these> compounds, I suspect that the molecule in which we are interested is> hypochlorous acid. So, here are two citations that I'm hoping that> somebody can interpret towards a layman's understanding.> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypochlorous_acid> > http://www.reflux-relief.com/> > There seems to be little doubt about the acid being a bactericide> but what about the action on other aspects of the human organism; such as> lipids, tumors, ATP processes, etc.? If anyone has some input on these> ...... I am all ears.> Cashew> > >>>> Why no Nausea?>> The reason you do not become nausiated using MMS-LITE is because>> The carrier used is MSM mixed with MMS.....MSM is an antioxidant>> and MMS is an oxidant...The msm neutralizes the mms so that there>> is little effect..So no nausea..The MMS is neutralized so that it is not-- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 On 2010-02-22 1:10 PM, Joe wrote: > It has everything to do with it. By adding sodium hypochlorite (MMS) MMS is not 'sodium hypochlorite', it is 'sodium CHLORITE' - 28% to be precise. > to water, hypochlorous acid (HOCl) is formed: NaOCl + H2O & #8594; > HOCl + NaOH-. I don't think that is correct. I think all you get is a diluted form of sodium chlorite. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 Hi , By registering on the scribd site itself you are able to freely download the 6 pages either in Word or pdf format. I expect that when he releases his eBook that it will have some form of copyright plus additional information which is not contained in his original release of information on MMS-lite. I will probably pay to download it when it is available if for no other reason to say thanks for his efforts & give him some support as he seem to be a very genuine guy just wanting to share his experiences with whomsoever wants to know about MMS-lite. If others are interested due to his original release of information they can then download the eBook as well! He probably gives more information than is necessary to promote the sale of his coming eBook with his original release but this appears to be no more than a demonstration of his generosity of spirit & willingness to share. Rob Re: [ ] Re: MMS-LITE is here > On 2010-02-21 7:47 PM, Rob Lowe wrote: >> Having read the information very thoroughly a number of times it is my >> belief that it is well worth looking into. Nowhere can I find that he is >> selling the product. It does appear however that he is producing an >> eBook regarding MMS-lite which he will sell for $19.95 when it is >> completed & donate some of the proceeds to charity. >> >> I've downloaded the 6 pages describing the process of manufacture & I >> really can't see why the need for an eBook as it is quite complete in & >> of itself! > > did anyone determine whether or not the info on the scribd site was > posted in violation of the guys copyright or not yet? > >> In my opinion it would seem initially that MMS-lite has more going for >> it than MMS2 so far as ease of preparation, absorption & lack of side >> effects with bonus benefits from the use of MSM as a buffer & sulphur >> additive. > > MMS2 and MMS-Lite have nothing whatsoever to do with each other, they > are totally different things. > > -- > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 On 2010-02-22 4:56 PM, Joe wrote: > My error ... sorry, was typing faster than I was thinking. Actually, > both sodium chlorite and calcium hypochlorite will engender > hypochlorous acid in solution with water. Prove it. I cannot find any reference anywhere that says this about sodium chlorite. > This, I suspect, is what makes MMS-Lite so interesting. Since MSM is a known powerful anti-oxidant, what is interesting is that anyone would believe that mixing it with MMS, a powerful oxidant, would result in anything except the two (mostly) canceling each other out (depending on how much of each was mixed). -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 Hi here is the info I found on MSM and it says that it is a strong antioxidant..What do you think...I asked the question on google.. is MSM an antioxidant.... Antioxidant MSM is a strong antioxidant, capable of binding and inactivating free radicals. Free radicals are unstable molecules and atoms with unpaired electrons, which, by force of nature, attract electrons from their surrounding environment. Free radicals are not all harmful. Actually, life without free radicals is impossible. They are needed for te cellular energy production. The liver produces free radicals during the breakdown of harmful substances. And the body's immune system uses free radicals to kill viruses and bacteria. The body houses antioxidants which bind and deactivate free radicals. The normal productions of free radicals in a healthy human therefore are harmless. However, the overproduction of free radicals can be very harmful. They can begin a chain reaction which eventually can cause great harm to cell membranes and chromosomes. Overproduction of free radicals is caused by physical and mental stress, malnutrition, air pollution, heavy metals and organic contaminants in drinking water and food, radiation and cigarette smoke. In such cases the body needs extra antioxidants from our food. MSM is such an antioxidant. As a major sulfur donor, MSM is essential for the proper functioning of the body's anti oxidation system. When neutralizing free radicals, the body uses a variety of antioxidant enzymes that contain sulfur amino acids, and derive their structure and biological activity from sulfur bonds (S-S). Besides, MSM provides the sulfur for the amino sulfur acids methionine, cysteine and taurine, that are considered powerful antioxidants. When split off, the thiol (-SH) groups of these amino acids are capable of neutralizing free radicals (17). Sulfur is also necessary for the formation of what is considered the most powerful nutritional antioxidant, glutathion (5). And as stated before, MSM potentiates the effect of well known nutritional antioxidants as the vitamins C and E, coenzyme Q10, selenium etc. (5, 7). MSM itself also appears to act as an antioxidant (7). The mucosa contains a carbon-sulfur bond cleaving enzyme, termed C-S lyase. Studies suggest that when bound to the mucosa, cleavage of MSM provides an electron deficient group CH3SO2 which can neutralize free radicals (4). Re: [ ] Re: MMS-LITE is here> > > > I feel that person responsible for investigating & making available the MMS-lite should be commended for his research & efforts.> > Having read the information very thoroughly a number of times it is my belief that it is well worth looking into. Nowhere can I find that he is selling the product. It does appear however that he is producing an eBook regarding MMS-lite which he will sell for $19.95 when it is completed & donate some of the proceeds to charity.> > I've downloaded the 6 pages describing the process of manufacture & I really can't see why the need for an eBook as it is quite complete in & of itself!> I've also made some general editing of the article to make it easier to read...no changes to the words or text. If anyone would like a copy I could convert it to a pdf file & place in the files section of the group if that is permitted.> > It is quite difficult to read on the webpage & unless you scroll right through you are likely to only read the first page & miss the rest as I did on my first few attempts to find out what it was all about.> > In my opinion it would seem initially that MMS-lite has more going for it than MMS2 so far as ease of preparation, absorption & lack of side effects with bonus benefits from the use of MSM as a buffer & sulphur additive.> Rob> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------> I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users.> It has removed 12674 spam emails to date.> Paying users do not have this message in their emails.> Try SPAMfighter for free now!> > > Reply to sender | Reply to group > Messages in this topic (30) > Recent Activity: > a.. New Members 16 > Visit Your Group Start a New Topic > > Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use> .> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------> Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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