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Hi ,

I never thought low blood pressure was bad until about 8 months ago.

I was in Whole Foods and suddenly experienced tunnel vision. It turns

out I lost a portion of my vision and doctors think it was from

ischemic neuropathy (lack of blood flow to the brain/eyes due to low

blood pressure).

Fortunately, my vision has improved and the doctors think it was a

one-time thing. However, they want me to get my blood pressure up but

none of them seem to know how as the medical community focuses on high

blood pressure.

What I've been reading lately is that systemic infections tend to

produce low blood pressure and low body temperature, both which also

make the perfect environment for these type of infections to wreak

their havoc...very cyclical. So, I'm hoping if I get my BP up, the

toxins/fungus will have a better chance of leaving the body.

Based on what I've read 90/60 is the cutoff for low " normal " . My

optic neurologist wants my BP at least 110/70. When I worked out for

so many years, my BP was almost always at 115/75. I think you have to

look at both numbers but honestly, I don't know exactly what each

means. - PH

> >

> > Hi All,

> >

> > I'm wondering if anyone has any recommendations for low blood

> > pressure. Mine is 90/60 most of the time so no wonder I feel

> > incredible fatigue at times. None of my doctors have any advice

> > except that one told me to eat more salt. For the last few months I

> > put it daily in my water but things haven't seemed to improve. Any

> > suggestions? - PH

> >

> >

> >

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,

Those of us with 140/90 would love to switch with you. I think your

blood pressure is fine.

Lynda

At 06:33 AM 9/2/2007, you wrote:

>Is 90/60 bad? I always thought low blood pressure was good, as long

>as it's not too low?

>What IS too low??? Do I look at the top or bottom number???

>

>- (Atlanta)

>

>

>On 9/1/07, perfecthealth68

><<mailto:perfecthealth68@...>perfecthealth68@...> wrote:

>

>Hi All,

>

>I'm wondering if anyone has any recommendations for low blood

>pressure. Mine is 90/60 most of the time so no wonder I feel

>incredible fatigue at times. None of my doctors have any advice

>except that one told me to eat more salt. For the last few months I

>put it daily in my water but things haven't seemed to improve. Any

>suggestions? - PH

>

>

>

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Maybe one of our nurses will help with this . . . But, as I understand it, the high number is the pressure on the blood vessels at its peak . . . as when the heart beats. . The lower number is the pressure on the vessels between beats. High blood pressure is an indication that the heart is working very hard. Extremely low pressure doesn't get the blood circulated quickly enough . . . Think of it as a water supply system . . . When the pressure is high, the water gushes out. . . When the pressure is too low, there's barely a trickle. One reason for high blood pressure is coronary artery disease caused by plaque buildup in the blood vessels. This causes the vessels to narrow, raising the pressure . . . Think of what happens if you squeeze a water hose. Most people have problems with high blood pressure.

Actually a low-normal to normal blood pressure, absent other factors, is usually a predictor of long life. Hugs, Rogene

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Hi Rogene,

Thanks for the tip. I use celtic sea salt now but mine is bright

white and I've read that the healthiest type is the grayish/brownish

color. So I went out and bought the darker stuff but when I opened it

up it was wet. Is that normal? I didn't use it for fear of mold.

Dr. Mercola recommends salt from the Himalaya Mountains because it has

more minerals and less mercury than that from the ocean. What brand

do you use and is it wet?

Yes, I feel faint sometimes, especially if I get up from a sitting

position. I know BP can fluctuate but mine doesn't seem to change much.

Also, a week or two ago you mentioned what brand magnesium you took

and dosage. Can you tell me again? For some reason today it won't

let me do a search on this site. Thanks. - PH

>

> PH,

>

> I don't know that it would help raise your blood pressure . . .

but when you use salt, make sure it's Sea Salt. . . It has a host of

minerals that have been stripped out of table salt. . . . Like Magnesium!

>

> Do you feel faint when your pressure is low? . . .

>

> I usually have low blood pressure too . . . However, it depends on

how long I've been at rest when it's taken. . . Taken right after a

brisk walk, it looks a little on the high side. Ten minutes later,

it's normal . . . After resting for an extended period, it's low.

>

> It was enough to get their attention when I had a surgical

procedure . . . They asked me if it always did this. . . I don't know.

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

>

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PH, I don't understand the salt being wet! . . . Salt does absorb moisture, so I can only believe something went very wrong in the packaging. I use bulk sea salt from Whole Foods most the time . . . I noticed that even WalMart is carrying "Natural" sea salt now. I'll probably try another salt when I use what I have up . . . Recently I bought a salt grinder - loaded with generic sea salt. . . I really like the taste of having a few larger grains rather than the entire food salted evenly. The one I purchased is a disposable salt grinder. . . Had I realized it couldn't be refilled, I would have purchased another grinder with separate salt. Regular table salt is refined. Salt starts with approximately 80 minerals . . . By the time it's refined, it's down to three minerals - with alumina thrown in to avoid caking. Then they can sell the other minerals back to you in

supplements! . .. (I don't know that they do - but I wouldn't be surprised) If you're using Garden of LIfe products, I'd recommend Living Calcium . . . It's a little on the spendy side since a bottle is only 20 days worth. . . Equally as effective (for me) is Blue Bonnet High Potency Minerals with Boron. I haven't done a side-by-side comparison, but I think it's less expensive. I would avoid WalMart's brand. . . My feet burn if I don't enough Magnesium - and WalMart's Calcium/Magnesium doesn't do the job. I suspect it doesn't dissolve as readily as it should. . . It's cheap though! LOL! Hugs, Rogene

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PH-

Some really raw salts can feel kinda of wet.... Almost

kind of oily. I know that sounds crazy, but I have

experienced this with pure unrefined sea salts. The

grey/browninsh kind.

Katy:)

--- perfecthealth68 <perfecthealth68@...> wrote:

> Hi Rogene,

> Thanks for the tip. I use celtic sea salt now but

> mine is bright

> white and I've read that the healthiest type is the

> grayish/brownish

> color. So I went out and bought the darker stuff

> but when I opened it

> up it was wet. Is that normal? I didn't use it for

> fear of mold.

> Dr. Mercola recommends salt from the Himalaya

> Mountains because it has

> more minerals and less mercury than that from the

> ocean. What brand

> do you use and is it wet?

>

> Yes, I feel faint sometimes, especially if I get up

> from a sitting

> position. I know BP can fluctuate but mine doesn't

> seem to change much.

>

> Also, a week or two ago you mentioned what brand

> magnesium you took

> and dosage. Can you tell me again? For some reason

> today it won't

> let me do a search on this site. Thanks. - PH

>

>

> >

> > PH,

> >

> > I don't know that it would help raise your blood

> pressure . . .

> but when you use salt, make sure it's Sea Salt. . .

> It has a host of

> minerals that have been stripped out of table salt.

> . . . Like Magnesium!

> >

> > Do you feel faint when your pressure is low? . .

> .

> >

> > I usually have low blood pressure too . . .

> However, it depends on

> how long I've been at rest when it's taken. . .

> Taken right after a

> brisk walk, it looks a little on the high side. Ten

> minutes later,

> it's normal . . . After resting for an extended

> period, it's low.

> >

> > It was enough to get their attention when I had

> a surgical

> procedure . . . They asked me if it always did this.

> . . I don't know.

> >

> > Hugs,

> >

> > Rogene

> >

>

>

>

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Sue,

This is a sign of weak adrenal function. (See , there I go

again!)

Sue, have you had any assistance from your doctors regarding your

adrenals? Any suggestions for assistance in supporting them?

Have you done any of the adrenal supportive suggestions in our links

section? I will give you a list of things that you can try to do.

It sounds to me like you really need to get on this right away, but

also be patient as it takes awhile for the adrenals to get strong.

But everything you can do to help support them will be one step

forward in the right direction.

You can buy supplements that are called " Adrenal Support "

supplements. They will have herbs and vitamins that are needed, such

as pantothenic acid, Vit C and schizandra and more. I would also

suggest some supplemental hormones ( " go slow and go low " ) including

progesterone, pregnenolone and DHEA, but if you can get your doctor's

assistance on those, it would be good.

Here is an article from Dr. , in which I snipped the portion of

recovery. You can see the whole thing at:

http://www.drlwilson.com/Articles/adrenal_burnout.htm

Sue, I'm concerned for you. Please stay close to us!

Patty

RECOVERY

Recovery from burnout is certainly possible. It

takes several years and usually requires a change in diet, improving

one's lifestyle, nutritional supplements, detoxification procedures

and attention to one's emotional and spiritual health. Addressing all

these aspects is the way to assure success.

Diet: Diet is an important factor for everyone. Eat protein at least

twice daily. Eggs, naturally-grown meats and poultry are the best

sources of protein. Toasted almond butter, organic milk products or

goat products and nuts are other good sources. Avoid strict

vegetarian diets, which will make things worse although they may feel

good at first.

At lunch and supper, have cooked vegetables. Rotate your proteins

and your vegetables so you don't eat the same thing every day.

You may have complex carbohydrates, but not wheat and spelt. Some

people are also sensitive to gluten found in rye, barley and oats.

Excellent starches are root vegetables (turnips, parsnips, rutabaga,

carrots, onion and celery root), blue corn, brown rice, quinoa and

others. Organic blue corn chips are fine.

I recommend everyone avoid wheat, spelt, sugar and non-organic cow's

milk dairy products except butter. If other food allergies are

present, avoid these foods for a while. Avoid isolated soy protein as

it is of poor quality and contains many anti-nutrients. The less soy

in your diet the better, as a general rule.

Reduce all sweets. Even fresh fruit is not helpful

in the least, so eat less fruit. Also avoid most fruit juices. They

are too yin in Chinese medical terms. This means they are cold and

expanded. This is a very important concept discussed in another

article titled Yin And Yang Healing. Most are also very sugary.

This can upset blood sugar and cause more stress for the adrenal

glands. A small glass of carrot or fresh green juice is excellent

every day.

Avoid most processed food. Also avoid most refined vegetable oils.

You may have organic blue corn chips and a few yellow corn chips as a

snack. However, for cooking, the best oils include coconut, palm,

olive and some seed oils.

Use sea salt rather than table salt. Eat regular

meals of excellent quality. Switch to organic food whenever possible.

Green superfoods with dried kelp, barley grass

powder and various colored vegetables are okay, although fresh tends

to be best. Cooking with coconut oil is excellent and helps as well

with weight loss, candida albicans infection and energy.

Drink high quality water, not tap water. Distilled

or spring waters are best. So-called drinking water or reverse

osmosis are often not good as the filters used to make them may be

dirty. Good quality water is an excellent investment in yourself.

Avoid all extreme diets. Your body needs a variety

of nutrients. Restriction is not a good idea. In my experience,

strict vegetarians will never recover from burnout. Follow good

eating habits with regular, sit-down, relaxed meals.

NUTRIENTS AND LIFESTYLE FOR RECOVERY

Food supplements are necessary. Kelp granules and nutritional yeast

are excellent supplements for most people. They are rich sources of

nutrients and kelp assists detoxification. Other nutrients that are

very important for adrenal activity are vitamins A, B, C, E,

pantothenic acid (B5) and adrenal glandular substance. Calcium and

magnesium are often needed.

A digestive aid is always needed. I prefer

pancreatin and ox bile. Zinc is a common supplement that is

frequently needed. Other nutrients may be needed depending on one's

level of toxic metals and other symptoms or deficiencies. I use hair

mineral testing along with symptoms to assess these needs.

Rest and sleep are extremely important. Plan on

nine hours of sleep for at least a few years. At times, more may be

needed. Sleep is not a waste of time. There is no substitute for

adequate rest. Also rest after meals, at mid-morning and mid-

afternoon.

Gentle walking is beneficial. Vigorous exertion

depletes the adrenals. Deep breathing and stretching, yoga or tai chi

do not deplete the body. Exercise to relax rather than to build

muscles.

Cleaning up your environment assists health

recovery. Replace toxic chemical products used around the house. Non-

toxic alternatives are available for cleaning and as solvents.

Pesticides and herbicides are often extremely toxic. Chemical hair

dyes, shampoos and toxic skin care products need to be replaced.

Ventilate your house and purify the air if needed.

Often very toxic is new construction. At work and at home avoid toxic

exposure. Turn off televisions and computers when they are not in

use. Sleep away from these appliances. Use cell phones only when

absolutely needed.

Spend some time in the sun each day. Contrary to

some propaganda, half an hour of sunshine daily will not hurt you.

It is a nutrient and assists health in many ways. Sit in front of a

window if it is too cold to go outside.

DETOXIFICATION

Sauna therapy in particular will greatly enhance

and speed up recovery. The best type is a near infrared electric

light sauna. We can help you purchase one or build one very

inexpensively. This is one of the best investments you will make to

get well and protect your family against all types of infections and

other illnesses. Click to read about these and how to build or

purchase a kit. If you are in adrenal burnout, use the sauna daily

for no more than 20 minutes at first. Later, as you acclimate to

sweating, you may increase the time up to about 45 or even 50 minutes

per session. After recovery, one or two saunas a week are excellent

for prevention.

Other detoxification procedures are also very good.

Coffee enemas are excellent to assist detoxification through the

liver. Brush your skin whenever you bathe with a skin brush or

loofa. Colonic irrigation and herbs for the liver and kidneys can

help improve elimination.

Chiropractic, massage and reflexology can help

reduce stress. Many natural therapies help realign and rebalance the

body. Making these part of your lifestyle will enhance recovery.

MENTAL, EMOTIONAL AND SPIRITUAL HEALTH

Often it is necessary to grow out of burnout. A key

to recovery from burnout is improving values and attitudes. They play

an important part in every single case. Negative thinking is a bad

habit that eventually tears down the body. Worry, fear and anger

place added stress on the glands. Many techniques there are to help

shift one's thinking. Inspirational books and tapes, seminars and

therapies there are many. There is no single answer right for

everyone.

Searching for love outside of yourself depletes the

body's energy. Find the love inside yourself first, and you will find

the right activities and companions. Burnout may result if you are

awakening spiritually. Your present work and lifestyle may simply be

inappropriate. Consider different employment or work arrangements if

you suspect your stress comes from your work.

Relationships can cause a lot of stress. When one

partner goes into burnout, the other often does not understand. Many

couples become energetically incompatible. This has nothing to do

with love or caring. It is important to listen to the wisdom of the

body, and not be blinded by fixed ideas.

Many methods can help one relax and tune in to the

wisdom of the self. In addition to traditional therapy, meditation

and visualization exercises may be most helpful. Slowing down is

often necessary if you live a busy life. It can take great courage to

realize that by doing less you can accomplish more. By staying home

more, you can relate better with others. By resting more, you can be

more creative and productive. Change often requires overcoming guilt,

shame and feelings of laziness.

For spiritual orientation, I highly recommend the

article on this website about meditation. Click here to read this

article. These and others that are similar can help one rethink who

am I, what is life about and why am I here.

>

> Any ideas ladies my b/p is so low 95/55 when I stand up I feel

really faint.

>

> Anything natural I can do to raise it. I feel like sh*t.

>

>

>

> Thanks Sue

>

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Sue,You might increase the amount of (sea) salt in your diet. Salt causes you to retain water, thus increasing your blood volume, causing your blood pressure to increase a bit.Do take your time in standing though! . . . No quick jumps!Years ago, when I was dieting intensely, I stood up quickly after sitting on the floor, and promptly fainted. I got a small cut on my forehead where it hit the door. Fortunately nothing serious.Hugs,Rogene LOW BLOOD PRESSURE

Any ideas ladies my b/p is so low 95/55 when I stand

up I feel really faint. Anything natural I can do to raise it… I feel

like sh*t. Thanks Sue

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Hi Sue

Have you had your heart checked? My husband got really low blood

pressure when he was in atrial fibrillation. Not every one knows

when they are in it. Also, mitral valve prolapse can cause

dizziness, and low blood pressure. Also leaking valves. You might

consider that. Here is an article I found. I just copied part of it:

In some individuals, particularly relatively healthy ones, symptoms

of weakness, dizziness, and fainting raise the suspicion of low blood

pressure. In others, an event often associated with low blood

pressure, for example a heart attack has occurred to cause the

symptoms.

Measuring blood pressure, sometimes in both the lying (supine) and

standing positions usually is the first step in diagnosing low blood

pressure. In patients with symptomatic low blood pressure, there

often is a marked drop in blood pressure upon standing, and patients

may even develop orthostatic symptoms. The heart rate often increases

greatly. Once low blood pressure has been identified as the cause of

symptoms, the goal is to identify the cause of the low blood

pressure. Sometimes the causes are readily apparent (such as loss of

blood due to trauma, or sudden shock after receiving x–ray dyes

containing iodine). At other times, the cause may be identified by

testing:

CBC (complete blood count). CBC may reveal anemia from blood loss or

elevated white blood cells due to infection.

Blood electrolyte measurements may show dehydration and mineral

depletion, renal failure (kidney failure), or acidosis (excess acid

in the blood).

Cortisol levels can be measured to diagnose adrenal insufficiency and

's disease.

Blood and urine cultures can be performed to diagnose septicemia and

bladder infections, respectively.

Radiology studies, such as chest x–rays, abdominal ultrasounds, and

computerized tomography (CT or CAT) scans may detect pneumonia, heart

failure, gallstones, pancreatitis, and diverticulitis.

Electrocardiograms (EKG) can detect abnormally slow or rapid heart

beats, pericarditis, and heart muscle damage from either previous

heart attacks or a reduced supply of blood to the heart muscle that

has not yet caused a heart attack.

Holter monitor recordings are used to diagnose intermittent episodes

of abnormal heart rhythms. If abnormal rhythms occur intermittently,

a standard EKG performed at the time of a visit to the doctor's

office may not show the abnormal rhythm. A Holter monitor is a

continuous recording of the heart's rhythm for 24 hours that often is

used to diagnose intermittent episodes of bradycardia or tachycardia.

Patient–activated event recorder. If the episodes of bradycardia or

tachycardia are infrequent, a 24–hour Holter recording may not

capture these sporadic episodes. In this situation, a patient can

wear a patient–activated event recorder for up to four weeks. The

patient presses a button to start the recording when he or she senses

the onset of an abnormal heart rhythm or symptoms possibly caused by

low blood pressure. The doctor then analyzes the recordings at a

later date to identify the abnormal episodes.

Echocardiograms are examinations of the structures and motion of the

heart using ultrasound. Echocardiograms can detect pericardial fluid

due to pericarditis, the extent of heart muscle damage from heart

attacks, diseases of the heart valves, and rare tumors of the heart.

Ultrasound examinations of the leg veins and CT scans of the chest

can detect deep vein thrombosis and pulmonary embolism.

Tilt–Table tests are used to evaluate patients suspected of having

postural hypotension or syncope due to abnormal autonomic nerves.

During a tilt–table test, the patient lies on an examining table with

an intravenous infusion administered while the heart rate and blood

pressure are monitored. The table then is tilted upright for 15

minutes to 45 minutes. Heart rate and blood pressure are monitored

every few minutes. The purpose of the test is to try to reproduce

postural hypotension. Sometimes a doctor may administer epinephrine

(Adrenalin, Isuprel) intravenously to induce postural hypotension.

For more, please read the Tilt–Table Test procedure article.

Since dizziness is a symptom of low blood pressure, it sounds like

something you should investigate further.

Kathy

-- In , " Sue Gibbens "

<susan.gibbens@...> wrote:

>

> Any ideas ladies my b/p is so low 95/55 when I stand up I feel

really faint.

>

> Anything natural I can do to raise it. I feel like sh*t.

>

>

>

> Thanks Sue

>

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Hi Sue

Have you had your heart checked? My husband got really low blood

pressure when he was in atrial fibrillation. Not every one knows

when they are in it. Also, mitral valve prolapse can cause

dizziness, and low blood pressure. Also leaking valves. You might

consider that. Here is an article I found. I just copied part of it:

In some individuals, particularly relatively healthy ones, symptoms

of weakness, dizziness, and fainting raise the suspicion of low blood

pressure. In others, an event often associated with low blood

pressure, for example a heart attack has occurred to cause the

symptoms.

Measuring blood pressure, sometimes in both the lying (supine) and

standing positions usually is the first step in diagnosing low blood

pressure. In patients with symptomatic low blood pressure, there

often is a marked drop in blood pressure upon standing, and patients

may even develop orthostatic symptoms. The heart rate often increases

greatly. Once low blood pressure has been identified as the cause of

symptoms, the goal is to identify the cause of the low blood

pressure. Sometimes the causes are readily apparent (such as loss of

blood due to trauma, or sudden shock after receiving x–ray dyes

containing iodine). At other times, the cause may be identified by

testing:

CBC (complete blood count). CBC may reveal anemia from blood loss or

elevated white blood cells due to infection.

Blood electrolyte measurements may show dehydration and mineral

depletion, renal failure (kidney failure), or acidosis (excess acid

in the blood).

Cortisol levels can be measured to diagnose adrenal insufficiency and

's disease.

Blood and urine cultures can be performed to diagnose septicemia and

bladder infections, respectively.

Radiology studies, such as chest x–rays, abdominal ultrasounds, and

computerized tomography (CT or CAT) scans may detect pneumonia, heart

failure, gallstones, pancreatitis, and diverticulitis.

Electrocardiograms (EKG) can detect abnormally slow or rapid heart

beats, pericarditis, and heart muscle damage from either previous

heart attacks or a reduced supply of blood to the heart muscle that

has not yet caused a heart attack.

Holter monitor recordings are used to diagnose intermittent episodes

of abnormal heart rhythms. If abnormal rhythms occur intermittently,

a standard EKG performed at the time of a visit to the doctor's

office may not show the abnormal rhythm. A Holter monitor is a

continuous recording of the heart's rhythm for 24 hours that often is

used to diagnose intermittent episodes of bradycardia or tachycardia.

Patient–activated event recorder. If the episodes of bradycardia or

tachycardia are infrequent, a 24–hour Holter recording may not

capture these sporadic episodes. In this situation, a patient can

wear a patient–activated event recorder for up to four weeks. The

patient presses a button to start the recording when he or she senses

the onset of an abnormal heart rhythm or symptoms possibly caused by

low blood pressure. The doctor then analyzes the recordings at a

later date to identify the abnormal episodes.

Echocardiograms are examinations of the structures and motion of the

heart using ultrasound. Echocardiograms can detect pericardial fluid

due to pericarditis, the extent of heart muscle damage from heart

attacks, diseases of the heart valves, and rare tumors of the heart.

Ultrasound examinations of the leg veins and CT scans of the chest

can detect deep vein thrombosis and pulmonary embolism.

Tilt–Table tests are used to evaluate patients suspected of having

postural hypotension or syncope due to abnormal autonomic nerves.

During a tilt–table test, the patient lies on an examining table with

an intravenous infusion administered while the heart rate and blood

pressure are monitored. The table then is tilted upright for 15

minutes to 45 minutes. Heart rate and blood pressure are monitored

every few minutes. The purpose of the test is to try to reproduce

postural hypotension. Sometimes a doctor may administer epinephrine

(Adrenalin, Isuprel) intravenously to induce postural hypotension.

For more, please read the Tilt–Table Test procedure article.

Since dizziness is a symptom of low blood pressure, it sounds like

something you should investigate further.

Kathy

-- In , " Sue Gibbens "

<susan.gibbens@...> wrote:

>

> Any ideas ladies my b/p is so low 95/55 when I stand up I feel

really faint.

>

> Anything natural I can do to raise it. I feel like sh*t.

>

>

>

> Thanks Sue

>

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There is an interesting correlation between low blood VOLUME and

chronic diseases like chronic fatigue and fibromyalgia. In that case,

they recommend eating more salt (probably natural is best) and making

sure you drink plenty of water. Low blood pressure can be a good

effect of plenty of exercise but if you feel fatigued and get

headaches, I'd look up the advice for low blood volume and try that out.

>

> I appear to have low-blood pressure. Can anyone tell me anything

about how

> best to deal with it, if it needs to be dealt with at all?

>

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> adrenal exhaustion?

That would make sense, as I'm recovering from it. I must have missed that

it was a symptom. It's actually come up in recent months, so I'm now at the

low end of the normal range (102) instead of low (90). I've been slowly

recovering from adrenal exhaustion for going on 2 years now.

Thanks!

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2 years?? what have you been doing if i could ask? I just didn't know

it took so long.

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> 2 years?? what have you been doing if i could ask? I just didn't know

> it took so long.

I haven't attempted to directly treat it, only indirectly by healing the

celiac disease and food allergies that I had that were causing problems. In

fact, I didn't realize that was a separate issue until I was 6 months in to

dealing with the celiac.

I've met others who did direct treatment, some to the tune of thou$ands, and

it still took 1-3 years to heal.

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>

> > adrenal exhaustion?

>

> That would make sense, as I'm recovering from it. I must have

missed that

> it was a symptom. It's actually come up in recent months, so I'm

now at the

> low end of the normal range (102) instead of low (90). I've been slowly

> recovering from adrenal exhaustion for going on 2 years now.

That was my thought as wll. Most with AF will have a drop in BP when

they stand up, and I have heard of some who are so severe when they

are stressed their bp will drop enough for them to pass out.

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rumkat74,

Go here take the discovery steps

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness

com/adrenal-info/?PHPSESSID=14474f1f63b88c491b93d4c89d3b44ca

If you fail the discovery steps you will need to do a 4 part

Saliva test.

From: rumkat74

how do you test for adrenal fatigue?

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Oh my goodness. I looked at the scorecard and I have almost every

single symptom (most quite severely too) under adrenal fatigue. I've

never even heard of adrenal fatigue! Does anyone have a good reference

for me to learn about it? I'm currently following the SCD diet for

digestive problems and it's helping. I'm wondering if this will be

enough to help the adrenal fatigue as well?

Thanks,

Kat

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Hi Kat,

Best to do a test for this one, saliva throughout the day is what I

did.

Adrenals are sodium loving, so Beiler Broth is great, Beet Kvass,

etc. Once things begin to taste too salty test again.

HTH,

Sal

who tested ZERO for adrenal function, but had never heard of it

before either. AND who feels much better now that she is getting

some assistance for her adrenals.

Oh my goodness. I looked at the scorecard and I have almost every

single symptom (most quite severely too) under adrenal fatigue. I've

never even heard of adrenal fatigue! Does anyone have a good reference

for me to learn about it? I'm currently following the SCD diet for

digestive problems and it's helping. I'm wondering if this will be

enough to help the adrenal fatigue as well?

Thanks,

Kat

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yes,mine is also, I am on an energy shake, but the doctors worry when i have any

medical issues that demand attention.There is medication for low pressure

Joyce

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Thank you Joyce,

Is the energy shake working? Where do you buy it? I would love to try it. I

started taking vitamin C last week again and today I feel alot better.

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Hi there.

My father is 70 years old and over the last five years, he has collapsed a

number of times. This is because, he suffers from Low Blood Pressure. For

example, in one episode, he collapsed unconscious after he went to the toilet

and regained consciousness moments later on the bathroom floor and he is fine.

We've called out an ambulance whenever this occurs.

He takes tablets for it, in the morning.

I'm very concerned and would like to acquire knowledge if people also experience

the same symptoms as him, regardless of their age and gender and have they taken

MMS to cure or treat it and what results have been achieved.

Many thanks for your help and advice on the matter. If there is anyway I can

contact Jim Humble directly on this particular subject, please forward me his

email address and I'm well aware he is inundated with lots of emails.

Virendra :)

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Hello Virenda,

When I was in my 30's i suffered from "postural hypotension"...medical term for when I stood up, I passed out...from low blood pressure. I found an excellent alternative healer who discovered I had benzene poisoning in my adrenal glands...several years worth of detoxing benzene specifically and petrochemicals generally relieved my issues. If your father has not had his adrenals/adrenal output evaluated, this may be a place to start. My healer put me on cortisol to supplement my own adrenal output while I was healing. Good luck.

judi

From: virendrapatel1972 <virendrapatel1972@...> Sent: Mon, December 14, 2009 4:52:07 PMSubject: [ ] LOW BLOOD PRESSURE

Hi there.My father is 70 years old and over the last five years, he has collapsed a number of times. This is because, he suffers from Low Blood Pressure. For example, in one episode, he collapsed unconscious after he went to the toilet and regained consciousness moments later on the bathroom floor and he is fine. We've called out an ambulance whenever this occurs. He takes tablets for it, in the morning.I'm very concerned and would like to acquire knowledge if people also experience the same symptoms as him, regardless of their age and gender and have they taken MMS to cure or treat it and what results have been achieved. Many thanks for your help and advice on the matter. If there is anyway I can contact Jim Humble directly on this particular subject, please forward me his email address and I'm well aware he is inundated with lots of emails.Virendra :)

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