EXPERIENCE

[Guest guest]

Hi,

1. I'll tell you, I had my Tonsils and adnoids removed at 19 yrs old & It

hurt like hell.

2. A good friend of mine is a neuroradiologist and I asked that same

question & his ans. to me was that the MRI is a much more sensative machine

and the slightest twitch of the nose can mess up the whole reading. And a

MRI is different than a CT in that the child goes into the tunnel completely

(he told me he has to sedated alot of adults), as opposed to the CT where

you can stand behind & see, talk to and comfort the child & they can see you.

At 08:59 PM 2/25/99 -0500, you wrote:

>I'm looking for experience in two areas.

>

>1. Tonsils and adenoids out in a currently infected child.

> why does the doctor say there will be four days of pain killers every 4

>hrs when everything I read says that most kids are eating Mc

>hamburgers later that evening.

>

>2. MRI's. I know that they are longer than CT's, so what's the effect of

>being under sedation for that much longer? The last time Macey was put to

>sleep she took over an hour longer than the doctor expected for her to wake

>up. What should I expect different from an MRI than the CT she had?

>

>Thanks. Between the two of them they're going to keep me jumping next week.

>

>Hope everyone's doing well and I'd like to remind the new members to be sure

>to write in a quick introduction and brief history. We're getting to be

>real good at this " list " thing.

>

>P.S. Since IVIG in on Tuesday and the MRI will be towards the end of the

>week, do you think the sedation right after IVIG will be a bad thing?

>

>Ursula Holleman

>www.netpage.org/macey/

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

1. I'll tell you, I had my Tonsils and adnoids removed at 19 yrs old & It

hurt like hell.

2. A good friend of mine is a neuroradiologist and I asked that same

question & his ans. to me was that the MRI is a much more sensative machine

and the slightest twitch of the nose can mess up the whole reading. And a

MRI is different than a CT in that the child goes into the tunnel completely

(he told me he has to sedated alot of adults), as opposed to the CT where

you can stand behind & see, talk to and comfort the child & they can see you.

At 08:59 PM 2/25/99 -0500, you wrote:

>I'm looking for experience in two areas.

>

>1. Tonsils and adenoids out in a currently infected child.

> why does the doctor say there will be four days of pain killers every 4

>hrs when everything I read says that most kids are eating Mc

>hamburgers later that evening.

>

>2. MRI's. I know that they are longer than CT's, so what's the effect of

>being under sedation for that much longer? The last time Macey was put to

>sleep she took over an hour longer than the doctor expected for her to wake

>up. What should I expect different from an MRI than the CT she had?

>

>Thanks. Between the two of them they're going to keep me jumping next week.

>

>Hope everyone's doing well and I'd like to remind the new members to be sure

>to write in a quick introduction and brief history. We're getting to be

>real good at this " list " thing.

>

>P.S. Since IVIG in on Tuesday and the MRI will be towards the end of the

>week, do you think the sedation right after IVIG will be a bad thing?

>

>Ursula Holleman

>www.netpage.org/macey/

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

1. I'll tell you, I had my Tonsils and adnoids removed at 19 yrs old & It

hurt like hell.

2. A good friend of mine is a neuroradiologist and I asked that same

question & his ans. to me was that the MRI is a much more sensative machine

and the slightest twitch of the nose can mess up the whole reading. And a

MRI is different than a CT in that the child goes into the tunnel completely

(he told me he has to sedated alot of adults), as opposed to the CT where

you can stand behind & see, talk to and comfort the child & they can see you.

At 08:59 PM 2/25/99 -0500, you wrote:

>I'm looking for experience in two areas.

>

>1. Tonsils and adenoids out in a currently infected child.

> why does the doctor say there will be four days of pain killers every 4

>hrs when everything I read says that most kids are eating Mc

>hamburgers later that evening.

>

>2. MRI's. I know that they are longer than CT's, so what's the effect of

>being under sedation for that much longer? The last time Macey was put to

>sleep she took over an hour longer than the doctor expected for her to wake

>up. What should I expect different from an MRI than the CT she had?

>

>Thanks. Between the two of them they're going to keep me jumping next week.

>

>Hope everyone's doing well and I'd like to remind the new members to be sure

>to write in a quick introduction and brief history. We're getting to be

>real good at this " list " thing.

>

>P.S. Since IVIG in on Tuesday and the MRI will be towards the end of the

>week, do you think the sedation right after IVIG will be a bad thing?

>

>Ursula Holleman

>www.netpage.org/macey/

>

[Guest guest]

Adam had his adenoids out. He was having sleep apnea. They were suppose to

be the size of peanuts, but were the size of walnuts. We were given Tylenol

with codiene but he didn't need it. He acted fine after the first day.

He had a CT done. They sedated him and he quit breathing on the table. It

was scarey.

[Guest guest]

Adam had his adenoids out. He was having sleep apnea. They were suppose to

be the size of peanuts, but were the size of walnuts. We were given Tylenol

with codiene but he didn't need it. He acted fine after the first day.

He had a CT done. They sedated him and he quit breathing on the table. It

was scarey.

[Guest guest]

Adam had his adenoids out. He was having sleep apnea. They were suppose to

be the size of peanuts, but were the size of walnuts. We were given Tylenol

with codiene but he didn't need it. He acted fine after the first day.

He had a CT done. They sedated him and he quit breathing on the table. It

was scarey.

[Guest guest]

Ursula, Mikey just had general anesthesia for the first time on Wednesday and

it's standard practice to intubate anyone going under general anesthesia.

They had us leave before they started the sedation and intubation, but we were

allowed back in as soon as they got the tube out. There is NO good reason not

to allow you to stay with your child in recovery until she wakes up.

You really need to consult with the anesthesiologist prior to any type of

sedation so that you can express your concerns about past problems and he/she

can explain the different types of drugs available and how they work. I wish

I could remember the name of the drug they used for Mikey's first and second

MRIs. Don't let them try to tell you they can't use one type or another for

certain procedures - that's not necessarily true, as they tried that with us

when Mikey had his MRI and spinal tap on the same day - they wanted to use 2

different types on two different days, but Mike put his foot down and said no

way - he's already out cold, do the next procedure (spinal tap) and be done

with it!! It worked out FINE.

You may need to insist on talking with the anesthesiologist to ease your

concerns, as they may not offer you that option. Good luck!!

Kathy

[Guest guest]

Ursula, Mikey just had general anesthesia for the first time on Wednesday and

it's standard practice to intubate anyone going under general anesthesia.

They had us leave before they started the sedation and intubation, but we were

allowed back in as soon as they got the tube out. There is NO good reason not

to allow you to stay with your child in recovery until she wakes up.

You really need to consult with the anesthesiologist prior to any type of

sedation so that you can express your concerns about past problems and he/she

can explain the different types of drugs available and how they work. I wish

I could remember the name of the drug they used for Mikey's first and second

MRIs. Don't let them try to tell you they can't use one type or another for

certain procedures - that's not necessarily true, as they tried that with us

when Mikey had his MRI and spinal tap on the same day - they wanted to use 2

different types on two different days, but Mike put his foot down and said no

way - he's already out cold, do the next procedure (spinal tap) and be done

with it!! It worked out FINE.

You may need to insist on talking with the anesthesiologist to ease your

concerns, as they may not offer you that option. Good luck!!

Kathy

[Guest guest]

Kathy I thought about that but this is my question. If the MRI takes longer

than the CT and you have to be absolutely head still then how will they not

have to give her the same amount of sedation as the CT.

What I figured out this morning was this. When I was talking with 's

ped about her surgery I asked him if sedation/anesthesia problems ran in

families. He said that some do. Because 's only been under once and

the doc who did the surgery isn't the type to come out and tell you there

were problems, no matter what. So we don't know if anything out of the

happened. At that hospital you can't see the child in recovery until they

are fully awake. And back when had her tubes I wouldn't have noticed

if it took an extra long time before we were called back.

With Macey and her procedures most of the problems have been pretty

explainable. Low temp, low sats, groggy. The low temp is what the MRI now

is for . to check her hypothalamus (??) and why her body temp is so hard to

regulate. They're also checking for the DI too. the low sats are probably

because she has some reactive airway problems.

But when we went to Atlanta to take the port out they really had her

overdone on the anesthesia. That's when it took too long for her to wake up

and we weren't even allowed near the recovery room doors to look through a

window at her. They just kept telling us that she was taking longer than

expected to wake up. When I demanded for them to let me see her they got

her recovery room nurse on the phone and she told me " oh mam, she's fine.

I'm sitting right here beside her and she's sleeping well and she does have

some oxygen on and we're sure she'll be waking up shortly. " This was an

hour after coming into recovery. And like the wimp I am I said " ok, just

kiss her for me "

Never again. The children's hospital here lets you be with them almost as

soon as they're wheeled into recovery.

Ursula Holleman

http://www.netpage.org/macey/> - Macey's page

http://www.netpage.org/katie> - 's page

http://www.netpage.org/> Ped PID page

[Guest guest]

Dear Anne,

I cannot tell you how long to take a supplement. EXPERIENCE works

differently with each individual. You need to keep in good

communication with the person helping you to monitor what is going on.

His logic is correct in that you need to detoxify first before you do

anything else. And you need to do it safely. After some

detoxification then you can address specific problems.

Normally one can increase dosage slowly until the desired effect

occurs. Then you may or may not need a maintenance dose to keep

things going smoothly. But talk more to this kinesiologist and read

the company literature and speak to your upline to get a better idea

of what's going on. I think you have made the right decision to start

on this.

Good Luck

" From: " Vanadeux " <vanadeux@e...>

Date: Thu Jun 13, 2002 2:53 pm

Subject: Question to the person who was the distributor for

awareness products?

I have been tested by a kinesiologist who says that I can take the

EXPERIENCE

product to start with, and then the CLEAR product. Does the

EXPERIENCE have

to be taken long term to correct constipation?

I am looking forward to trying the products.

Anne "