Re: A new sprout lady in your midsts

[Guest guest]

I'm still trying to get over the image that one can raise an animal and then eat

the animal. The guy on tv, Pollen (I think that's his name), he was on

Oprah the other day and he said " you should meet your meat before you eat it "

Amazing.

Melody

http://www.youtube.com/user/eliz7212?feature=mhum

Apr 19, 2011 10:07:33 PM, sproutpeople wrote:

===========================================

Yup! But only the ones not good enough to sell as fiber rabbits. They are angora

bunnies. They are tasty, but the $65-75 each is a better price then the meat! I

like the multi use critters! Pets fiber and meat or milk!

Rabbit really does taste like chicken. Not that store bought stuff, but " real "

chicken without the fat. Sometimes you can buy it in a normal store. You can

also mail order it! Odd huh?

> Jennie:

>

> Do you eat the rabbits too? I've never tasted rabbit.

>

> Melody

> http://www.youtube.com/user/eliz7212?feature=mhum

>

> Apr 19, 2011 08:46:53 PM, sproutpeople wrote:

>

> ===========================================

>

> Ops! I hit the send button before I was done! To continue...

>

> I knew I was the odd one out on this group. I thought was quite close

but not quite! I also have food allergies. No gluten, eggs, soy, bovine dairy,

strawberries, cane sugar, and most things in processed foods. I can at least eat

nuts and corn!! :-)

> I grew up on a working farm were we raise most of our veggies and all of out

meat. So I have 17 sheep, 23 goats, assorted poultry, 4 pigs, 40 rabbits, 4

horses ( I have not eaten one yet, but have been tempted some days!) and of

corse 11 cats and a dog. The cows are kept with the neighbors cows at their

farm.

> We process all our own veggies and most of our own meat. Yes that means taking

the baby I fed and played with and butchering him/her into oven ready meat. We

even label the packages with their named so we know who we are eating. If I had

to eat some strange critter off of a store shelf I would not be eating much

meat!

> My horse broke my leg last month and I delivered a lamb this afternoon.

Luckily all the mess missed my cast! The lamb was not positioned right so I had

to go in and straighten out the lamb. He was quite stuck, but both mom and lamb

look like they will be fine.

> Farm life is great but not without it's ups and downs. I would not trade it

for anything! I know very litte about city life, so all your stories give me

something different to think about while waiting for my leg to heal. In between

playing with the baby bunnies that is! They all have their eyes open and are

hopping around now. So cute!

>

>

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

OMG, that sounds like so much fun. I remember (almost 60 years ago), visiting at

my grandfather's farm. Yes, MY GRANDPA OWNED A FARM somewhere in Northport LI, I

think.

My mother had 5 bros and 5 sisters and we'd all go visit at Grandpa's farm. I

remember chickens. There were dogs too.

But the vivid memory I have is that we all slept in this huge room on cots and

blankets on the floor and remember my Aunt Lucy snoring so loud that the next

morning I said to her " you kept me up all night, you were snoring " . She got so

mad at me that she said " And you were chewing " .

What the heck was I chewing? I was maybe 5 years old.

Oh my, the memory just hit me. I actually used to go on a farm.

>

> Okay, tell him you are going to move to Texas. We don't have cows, but we

> do have horses, goats, chickens, guinea pigs & 1 dog. Tell him the goats

> go on a milking stand and he can sit right in front of it. The house next

> door is for sale. You get a cow and I'll provide the eggs. I have 5 ways

> to grind wheat and about 300 lbs of wheat berries, not counting other grains

> like 100 lbs of barley, 50 lbs oat groats, some rye, 7 grain, etc we can

> grind. I have 3 ovens and lots of baking pans.

> Come on down!!!

> Beverly

>

>

> Re: Re: Re: A new sprout lady in your midsts

>

>

> tis Journey I would happily join you on. Someday I'll have my own backyard

> with lots of fresh produce, and maybe a cow or two. Oh by the way, I have a

> new video coming up. I posed a question to Alan. Did he ever think it

> might be possible to move to Pennsylvania and have cows and grow our own

> vegetables??

>

> If you laughed at his windowfarming video, YOU'LL LOVE THIS ONE.

>

> It will be up soon

> Melody

> http://www.youtube.com/user/eliz7212?feature=mhum

>

[Guest guest]

I personally don't eat critters, but I have a lot of respect for those that can

raise and butcher their own.  I think they earn it more so than someone who

lets someone else do the dirty work.  I know I couldn't do it, so I don't eat

meat.  I think if more of us HAD to butcher our own, there would be more

vegetarians in the world!  

>

> ===========================================

>

> Ops! I hit the send button before I was done! To continue...

>

> I knew I was the odd one out on this group. I thought was quite close

but not quite! I also have food allergies. No gluten, eggs, soy, bovine dairy,

strawberries, cane sugar, and most things in processed foods. I can at least eat

nuts and corn!! :-)

> I grew up on a working farm were we raise most of our veggies and all of out

meat. So I have 17 sheep, 23 goats, assorted poultry, 4 pigs, 40 rabbits, 4

horses ( I have not eaten one yet, but have been tempted some days!) and of

corse 11 cats and a dog. The cows are kept with the neighbors cows at their

farm.

> We process all our own veggies and most of our own meat. Yes that means taking

the baby I fed and played with and butchering him/her into oven ready meat. We

even label the packages with their named so we know who we are eating. If I had

to eat some strange critter off of a store shelf I would not be eating much

meat!

> My horse broke my leg last month and I delivered a lamb this afternoon.

Luckily all the mess missed my cast! The lamb was not positioned right so I had

to go in and straighten out the lamb. He was quite stuck, but both mom and lamb

look like they will be fine.

> Farm life is great but not without it's ups and downs. I would not trade it

for anything! I know very litte about city life, so all your stories give me

something different to think about while waiting for my leg to heal. In between

playing with the baby bunnies that is! They all have their eyes open and are

hopping around now. So cute!

>

>

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Okay, tell him you are going to move to Texas. We don't have cows, but we

do have horses, goats, chickens, guinea pigs & 1 dog. Tell him the goats

go on a milking stand and he can sit right in front of it. The house next

door is for sale. You get a cow and I'll provide the eggs. I have 5 ways

to grind wheat and about 300 lbs of wheat berries, not counting other grains

like 100 lbs of barley, 50 lbs oat groats, some rye, 7 grain, etc we can

grind. I have 3 ovens and lots of baking pans.

Come on down!!!

Beverly

Re: Re: Re: A new sprout lady in your midsts

tis Journey I would happily join you on. Someday I'll have my own backyard

with lots of fresh produce, and maybe a cow or two. Oh by the way, I have a

new video coming up. I posed a question to Alan. Did he ever think it

might be possible to move to Pennsylvania and have cows and grow our own

vegetables??

If you laughed at his windowfarming video, YOU'LL LOVE THIS ONE.

It will be up soon

Melody

http://www.youtube.com/user/eliz7212?feature=mhum

[Guest guest]

Add a very thin layer. With small seeds I tell my students to just 'dust' the

seeds. Larger seeds can go a little deeper. Flower seeds in the wild don't get

covered at all, but you should. It keeps the birds from eating them and helps

keep them from drying out.

ew

Re: Re: A new sprout lady in your midsts

So I put the seeds on the top of the soil, spreading them evenly, the I add one

layer of soil on top of that??

Sound good??

Melody

http://www.youtube.com/user/eliz7212?feature=mhum

Apr 19, 2011 08:22:00 PM, sproutpeople%2540yahoogroups.com wrote:

===========================================

Melody remember when planting seeds to only put as much dirt over them as the

seed is big. If you burry them to deep they can't get threw and don't come up.

You don't have to be exact, just don't dump a whole inch of soil onto a seed the

size of a clover seed!

Yup, I knew

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, nasturtiums are great. They spread out and fill in really great. And the

flowers will look great in you salad.

ew

Re: A new sprout lady in your midsts

Try nasturtiums. They are a nice easy flower that is also edible! Just a bit

spicy less then black pepper but not sweet!

Sent from my iPod

On Apr 19, 2011, at 9:43 PM, " Melody " < eliz7212%2540verizon.net > wrote:

> Oh, can't say yet, I haven't bought them. They have this big box in the store

and I have to go and look. Before I buy them, I'll see what kind they offer then

I will come back and post here. You can then say " that's a good one, or ..not

that type "

>

>

> >

> > ===========================================

> >

> > Melody remember when planting seeds to only put as much dirt over them as

the seed is big. If you burry them to deep they can't get threw and don't come

up. You don't have to be exact, just don't dump a whole inch of soil onto a seed

the size of a clover seed!

> >

> > Yup, I knew

> > >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

For a beginner, pansys, violets are good and have a mild taste. Nasturtiums are

great, but a little on the spicy side.

ew

Re: A new sprout lady in your midsts

>

> Try nasturtiums. They are a nice easy flower that is also edible! Just a bit

spicy less then black pepper but not sweet!

>

>

Hi,

Lately, I've been thinking about trying some edible flowers. Not sure I wanna

grow 'em (think I know how get some, tho). I understand they not only liven up a

salad but are also quite nutritious. But, the taste.....which ones should a

beginner eat? Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Don

For the first time EVER - start an online business at ZERO cost!

Send email with subject line " Tell me how! "

fonsh%2540aol.com

[Guest guest]

BTW: there are a lot of weeds growing all a around that are very tasty. When the

young dandelions first blossom, clip their flowers and toss them into you salad.

ew

Re: A new sprout lady in your midsts

>

> Try nasturtiums. They are a nice easy flower that is also edible! Just a bit

spicy less then black pepper but not sweet!

>

>

Hi,

Lately, I've been thinking about trying some edible flowers. Not sure I wanna

grow 'em (think I know how get some, tho). I understand they not only liven up a

salad but are also quite nutritious. But, the taste.....which ones should a

beginner eat? Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Don

For the first time EVER - start an online business at ZERO cost!

Send email with subject line " Tell me how! "

fonsh%2540aol.com

[Guest guest]

Besides, rabbit poop in great fertilizer.

ew

Re: A new sprout lady in your midsts

Yup! But only the ones not good enough to sell as fiber rabbits. They are

angora bunnies. They are tasty, but the $65-75 each is a better price then the

meat! I like the multi use critters! Pets fiber and meat or milk!

Rabbit really does taste like chicken. Not that store bought stuff, but " real "

chicken without the fat. Sometimes you can buy it in a normal store. You can

also mail order it! Odd huh?

On Apr 19, 2011, at 9:32 PM, eliz7212%2540verizon.net wrote:

> Jennie:

>

> Do you eat the rabbits too? I've never tasted rabbit.

>

> Melody

> http://www.youtube.com/user/eliz7212?feature=mhum

>

> Apr 19, 2011 08:46:53 PM, sproutpeople%2540yahoogroups.com wrote:

>

> ===========================================

>

> Ops! I hit the send button before I was done! To continue...

>

> I knew I was the odd one out on this group. I thought was quite close

but not quite! I also have food allergies. No gluten, eggs, soy, bovine dairy,

strawberries, cane sugar, and most things in processed foods. I can at least eat

nuts and corn!! :-)

> I grew up on a working farm were we raise most of our veggies and all of out

meat. So I have 17 sheep, 23 goats, assorted poultry, 4 pigs, 40 rabbits, 4

horses ( I have not eaten one yet, but have been tempted some days!) and of

corse 11 cats and a dog. The cows are kept with the neighbors cows at their

farm.

> We process all our own veggies and most of our own meat. Yes that means

taking the baby I fed and played with and butchering him/her into oven ready

meat. We even label the packages with their named so we know who we are eating.

If I had to eat some strange critter off of a store shelf I would not be eating

much meat!

> My horse broke my leg last month and I delivered a lamb this afternoon.

Luckily all the mess missed my cast! The lamb was not positioned right so I had

to go in and straighten out the lamb. He was quite stuck, but both mom and lamb

look like they will be fine.

> Farm life is great but not without it's ups and downs. I would not trade it

for anything! I know very litte about city life, so all your stories give me

something different to think about while waiting for my leg to heal. In between

playing with the baby bunnies that is! They all have their eyes open and are

hopping around now. So cute!

>

>

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Add to that list: Carnation petals, Chive flowers, Daisy petals, Daylily petals,

hibiscus petals, honeysuckle petals, lavender flowers, rose petals and sunflower

petals. Caution, make sure that none of these have been sprayed with or fed

poison to dissuade insects.

ew

Re: A new sprout lady in your midsts

Wild flowers or planted ones? I have seen edible flowers in the grocery store

with the fresh herbs. All washed and ready to eat. Can't say I looked close

enough to see what types were offered, just that it was a mix.

Dandelions, nasturtiums, pansies, squash blossoms, borage, marigolds, violas,

calundulas, milkweed, and many others. Just take a bite to see if you like them.

Stay clear of tomatoes, potatoes, deadly nightshade and pepper flowers. Also

avoid sweet pea blossoms and buttercups.

It's past my bedtime so good night!

Sent from my iPod

On Apr 19, 2011, at 9:57 PM, " DonF " < fonsh%2540aol.com > wrote:

>

>

>

> >

> > Try nasturtiums. They are a nice easy flower that is also edible! Just a

bit spicy less then black pepper but not sweet!

> >

> >

> Hi,

>

> Lately, I've been thinking about trying some edible flowers. Not sure I wanna

grow 'em (think I know how get some, tho). I understand they not only liven up a

salad but are also quite nutritious. But, the taste.....which ones should a

beginner eat? Any suggestions?

> Thanks,

> Don

>

> For the first time EVER - start an online business at ZERO cost!

> Send email with subject line " Tell me how! "

> fonsh%2540aol.com

>

>

[Guest guest]

Melody, you need to go to the library and check out his book, " Omnivores

Dilemma " . Then you'll know what that means

ew

Re: Re: A new sprout lady in your midsts

I'm still trying to get over the image that one can raise an animal and then

eat the animal. The guy on tv, Pollen (I think that's his name), he was

on Oprah the other day and he said " you should meet your meat before you eat it "

Amazing.

Melody

http://www.youtube.com/user/eliz7212?feature=mhum

Apr 19, 2011 10:07:33 PM, sproutpeople%2540yahoogroups.com wrote:

===========================================

Yup! But only the ones not good enough to sell as fiber rabbits. They are

angora bunnies. They are tasty, but the $65-75 each is a better price then the

meat! I like the multi use critters! Pets fiber and meat or milk!

Rabbit really does taste like chicken. Not that store bought stuff, but " real "

chicken without the fat. Sometimes you can buy it in a normal store. You can

also mail order it! Odd huh?

On Apr 19, 2011, at 9:32 PM, eliz7212%2540verizon.net wrote:

> Jennie:

>

> Do you eat the rabbits too? I've never tasted rabbit.

>

> Melody

> http://www.youtube.com/user/eliz7212?feature=mhum

>

> Apr 19, 2011 08:46:53 PM, sproutpeople%2540yahoogroups.com wrote:

>

> ===========================================

>

> Ops! I hit the send button before I was done! To continue...

>

> I knew I was the odd one out on this group. I thought was quite close

but not quite! I also have food allergies. No gluten, eggs, soy, bovine dairy,

strawberries, cane sugar, and most things in processed foods. I can at least eat

nuts and corn!! :-)

> I grew up on a working farm were we raise most of our veggies and all of out

meat. So I have 17 sheep, 23 goats, assorted poultry, 4 pigs, 40 rabbits, 4

horses ( I have not eaten one yet, but have been tempted some days!) and of

corse 11 cats and a dog. The cows are kept with the neighbors cows at their

farm.

> We process all our own veggies and most of our own meat. Yes that means

taking the baby I fed and played with and butchering him/her into oven ready

meat. We even label the packages with their named so we know who we are eating.

If I had to eat some strange critter off of a store shelf I would not be eating

much meat!

> My horse broke my leg last month and I delivered a lamb this afternoon.

Luckily all the mess missed my cast! The lamb was not positioned right so I had

to go in and straighten out the lamb. He was quite stuck, but both mom and lamb

look like they will be fine.

> Farm life is great but not without it's ups and downs. I would not trade it

for anything! I know very litte about city life, so all your stories give me

something different to think about while waiting for my leg to heal. In between

playing with the baby bunnies that is! They all have their eyes open and are

hopping around now. So cute!

>

>

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have vegan friends so I have no problem with people who don't eat meat! It's

all a matter of choice. Everyone is different that is what makes life so fun!!!

Lots of people can't even have their own animals butchered, much less do it

themselves. Personally I like making sure my dinner has a happy life with lots

of love in it, they taste better when they have had good life! Then again, so do

happy vegetables!!

Daylillys buds are really good! Lightly cook with some olive oil and sea salt

untill soft. They taste a little like soft greenbeans. The roots are also

edible, but are to spicy for me.

>

[Guest guest]

Oh, I know all about dandelions. Years ago, and I mean YEARS , my mother used to

cook them. One day I said " I wonder what these would taste like raw in my

salad " . Well, they were wonderful.

I often buy them around here, but then again, those are not organic.

Melody

http://www.youtube.com/user/eliz7212?feature=mhum

Apr 20, 2011 12:52:00 AM, sproutpeople wrote:

===========================================

BTW: there are a lot of weeds growing all a around that are very tasty. When the

young dandelions first blossom, clip their flowers and toss them into you salad.

ew

Re: A new sprout lady in your midsts

>

> Try nasturtiums. They are a nice easy flower that is also edible! Just a bit

spicy less then black pepper but not sweet!

>

>

Hi,

Lately, I've been thinking about trying some edible flowers. Not sure I wanna

grow 'em (think I know how get some, tho). I understand they not only liven up a

salad but are also quite nutritious. But, the taste.....which ones should a

beginner eat? Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Don

For the first time EVER - start an online business at ZERO cost!

Send email with subject line " Tell me how! "

fonsh%2540aol.com

[Guest guest]

...how do you do the sunflower juice?... B

Re: A new sprout lady in your midsts

Oh, can't say yet, I haven't bought them. They have this big box in the

store and I have to go and look. Before I buy them, I'll see what kind they

offer then I will come back and post here. You can then say " that's a good

one, or ..not that type "

>

> ===========================================

>

> Melody remember when planting seeds to only put as much dirt over them as

> the seed is big. If you burry them to deep they can't get threw and don't

> come up. You don't have to be exact, just don't dump a whole inch of soil

> onto a seed the size of a clover seed!

>

> Yup, I knew

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

I just put a handful of sunflower greens in my Vitamix and buzz it up with a

little water.  I haven't tried it in my Champion, but I am sure that would work

too.

From: Molloy <mailto:jmolloy64%40msn.com<mailto:jmolloy64%40msn.com>>

Subject: Re: A new sprout lady in your midsts

To:

mailto:sproutpeople%40yahoogroups.com<mailto:sproutpeople%40yahoogroups.com>

Date: Tuesday, April 19, 2011, 9:48 PM

This is a great series of 3 videos of how to sprout wheatgrass, peas,

sunflowers, and buckwheat w/ soil in trays. I have the link to the second

below....great info on planting seeds in trays, especially the sunflower

seeds which don't need soil on top of them , and do better weighed down in

early stages.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syS9X6sni98 & feature=related<http://www.youtube.co\

m/watch?v=syS9X6sni98 & feature=related><http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syS9X6sni9\

8 & feature=related<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syS9X6sni98 & feature=related>>

Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 9:43 PM

Subject: Re: A new sprout lady in your midsts

Oh, can't say yet, I haven't bought them. They have this big box in the

store and I have to go and look. Before I buy them, I'll see what kind they

offer then I will come back and post here. You can then say " that's a good

one, or ..not that type "

>

> ===========================================

>

> Melody remember when planting seeds to only put as much dirt over them as

> the seed is big. If you burry them to deep they can't get threw and don't

> come up. You don't have to be exact, just don't dump a whole inch of soil

> onto a seed the size of a clover seed!

>

> Yup, I knew

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

This may be a silly question, but I have to ask anyway!! Why

make a juice out of the sunnys when you can just eat them as is? Is their any

benefit or is it just preference? I assume you juice the grass because it is

chewy but the sunnies are not.

Sent from my iPod

> I just put a handful of sunflower greens in my Vitamix and buzz it up with a

little water. I haven't tried it in my Champion, but I am sure that would work

too.

>

>

>

>

>

> From: Molloy <mailto:jmolloy64%40msn.com<mailto:jmolloy64%40msn.com>>

>

> Subject: Re: A new sprout lady in your midsts

>

> To:

>

> mailto:sproutpeople%40yahoogroups.com<mailto:sproutpeople%40yahoogroups.com>

>

> Date: Tuesday, April 19, 2011, 9:48 PM

>

> This is a great series of 3 videos of how to sprout wheatgrass, peas,

>

> sunflowers, and buckwheat w/ soil in trays. I have the link to the second

>

> below....great info on planting seeds in trays, especially the sunflower

>

> seeds which don't need soil on top of them , and do better weighed down in

>

> early stages.....

>

>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syS9X6sni98 & feature=related<http://www.youtube.co\

m/watch?v=syS9X6sni98 & feature=related><http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syS9X6sni9\

8 & feature=related<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syS9X6sni98 & feature=related>>

>

> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 9:43 PM

>

> Subject: Re: A new sprout lady in your midsts

>

> Oh, can't say yet, I haven't bought them. They have this big box in the

>

> store and I have to go and look. Before I buy them, I'll see what kind they

>

> offer then I will come back and post here. You can then say " that's a good

>

> one, or ..not that type "

>

>

>

> >

>

> > ===========================================

>

> >

>

> > Melody remember when planting seeds to only put as much dirt over them as

>

> > the seed is big. If you burry them to deep they can't get threw and don't

>

> > come up. You don't have to be exact, just don't dump a whole inch of soil

>

> > onto a seed the size of a clover seed!

>

> >

>

> > Yup, I knew

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> >

[Guest guest]

Sorry but with all due respect, that's just silliness. A few generations ago,

most everyone did slaughter their own food and having to do so did not make them

vegetarians. They didn't have the luxury to think of animals as soft cuddly

pets...they were food.

Tina

>

> I personally don't eat critters, but I have a lot of respect for those that

can raise and butcher their own.  I think they earn it more so than someone who

lets someone else do the dirty work.  I know I couldn't do it, so I don't eat

meat.  I think if more of us HAD to butcher our own, there would be more

vegetarians in the world!  

>

>

[Guest guest]

I seriously doubt that we can discount anyone's personal feelings as " silliness "

- they're just feelings - " silliness " is a fairly pejorative/judgmental word.

it would take getting beyond " a few generations ago " to get to everyone

slaughtering their own food. There have been slaughterhouses and butchers since

at least the early 1800's, and possibly before. Particularly in urban

environments.

Whether you can or want to take another's life, all depends on how you were

raised. My chickens are not real bright (I only have 6) but I doubt I could put

them on my dinner table. <G> I don't judge those who do.

Pam

> Sorry but with all due respect, that's just silliness. A few generations ago,

most everyone did slaughter their own food and having to do so did not make them

vegetarians. They didn't have the luxury to think of animals as soft cuddly

pets...they were food.

>

> Tina

>

>

> >

> > I personally don't eat critters, but I have a lot of respect for those that

can raise and butcher their own. I think they earn it more so than someone who

lets someone else do the dirty work. I know I couldn't do it, so I don't eat

meat. I think if more of us HAD to butcher our own, there would be more

vegetarians in the world! Â

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

I will thank you not to call my opinion silly.  Sure, generations ago perhaps

everyone did slaughter their own food, but MY generation didn't, so it is not

part of my universe.  They used to use outhouses, too, but that doesn't mean I

have to.  I am sure if it is something you have grown up used to, then it would

just be part of life, but lets face it-MOST people these days do not raise and

butcher their own meat.  Kudos to those who have the knowledge and ability.  I

personally have a hard time gutting a fish (although I do when I can catch one),

so I know I would have a hard time with a 4 legged animal. 

Subject: Re: A new sprout lady in your midsts

To: sproutpeople

Date: Wednesday, April 20, 2011, 12:11 PM

 

Sorry but with all due respect, that's just silliness. A few generations

ago, most everyone did slaughter their own food and having to do so did not make

them vegetarians. They didn't have the luxury to think of animals as soft cuddly

pets...they were food.

Tina

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can raise and butcher their own.  I think they earn it more so than someone

who lets someone else do the dirty work.  I know I couldn't do it, so I don't

eat meat.  I think if more of us HAD to butcher our own, there would be more

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It never ceases to amaze me how people project onto the whole world their own

limited experience. Believe it or not, just because YOU don't doesn't mean NO

ONE does. It is this very attitude that makes me say that vegans/vegetarians can

be very self-righteous.

Tina

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[Guest guest]

, did I ever tell you what happened to me when I went to a local fish

store to buy a nice piece of fish.

I had never gone to this particular one before. So I walk in, and there is a lot

of fish on display,over ice, all various kinds of fillets, whole fish (with

heads still on), all kinds of squid, etc.

So I'm looking at all the fish trying to decide, " do I want a piece of flounder,

do I want a piece of halibut, maybe some shrimp, etc. "

A man comes in, stands next to me, says something in another language to the

fishmonger, the fishmonger bends down (I had no idea there were tanks underneath

all the cases of fish being displayed). The guy next to me bends down, I BEND

DOWN, because everybody was bending down, so why wouldn't nosy Melody bend down

too?

So what am I viewing. All kinds of big fish swimming in tanks. The guy next to

me points to one of the fish, the fishmonger gets the fish out of the tank and

puts it on the wooden slab behind him.

I had absolutely no idea what was going on.

All of a sudden the fishmonger takes a giant mallet and hits the fish over the

head.

I start screaming, accusing the guy of murder and the guy standing calmly next

to me looks at me like I had lost my mind.

I look at the guy and I said " Do you see what he just did, he hit that poor fish

over the head "

Even though we spoke different languages, THEY ALL KNEW WHAT WAS COMING OUT OF

MY MOUTH.

I'm trying to compose myself and the fishmonger continued to hit the fish over

the head until he stopped thrashing about. Then he took a GIANT KNIFE and cut

off the head and I almost fainted.

I ran out of the store, NEVER WENT BACK.

Someone once said that no one thinks of what animals go through because we buy

stuff already killed, prepared, and wrapped.

I had NEVER seen that before in my life and I never went back, so I never saw it

again.

Took me a long time to eat a fish again.

lol

Melody

http://www.youtube.com/user/eliz7212?feature=mhum

Apr 20, 2011 01:14:58 PM, sproutpeople wrote:

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I will thank you not to call my opinion silly.  Sure, generations ago perhaps

everyone did slaughter their own food, but MY generation didn't, so it is not

part of my universe.  They used to use outhouses, too, but that doesn't mean I

have to.  I am sure if it is something you have grown up used to, then it would

just be part of life, but lets face it-MOST people these days do not raise and

butcher their own meat.  Kudos to those who have the knowledge and ability.  I

personally have a hard time gutting a fish (although I do when I can catch one),

so I know I would have a hard time with a 4 legged animal. 

From: frecs7

Subject: Re: A new sprout lady in your midsts

To: sproutpeople

Date: Wednesday, April 20, 2011, 12:11 PM

 

Sorry but with all due respect, that's just silliness. A few generations

ago, most everyone did slaughter their own food and having to do so did not make

them vegetarians. They didn't have the luxury to think of animals as soft cuddly

pets...they were food.

Tina

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> I personally don't eat critters, but I have a lot of respect for those that

can raise and butcher their own.  I think they earn it more so than someone

who lets someone else do the dirty work.  I know I couldn't do it, so I don't

eat meat.  I think if more of us HAD to butcher our own, there would be more

vegetarians in the world!  

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That wasn't a " feeling " it was an opinion. Opinions are subject to being

ridiculous or silly or logical. Opinions are subject to the judgment of those

who hear them.

Just because there were slaughterhouses in the 1800's does not mean that

everyone used them. The majority of people still raised and slaughtered their

own food.

Tina

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that can raise and butcher their own. I think they earn it more so than

someone who lets someone else do the dirty work. I know I couldn't do it, so I

don't eat meat. I think if more of us HAD to butcher our own, there would be

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It doesn't matter if it was a feeling or opinion.  The original post didn't

trash anyone for either, nor should a follow up post.  We are grown ups

here-let's act like it.

Subject: Re: A new sprout lady in your midsts

To: sproutpeople

Date: Wednesday, April 20, 2011, 1:50 PM

 

That wasn't a " feeling " it was an opinion. Opinions are subject to being

ridiculous or silly or logical. Opinions are subject to the judgment of those

who hear them.

Just because there were slaughterhouses in the 1800's does not mean that

everyone used them. The majority of people still raised and slaughtered their

own food.

Tina

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that can raise and butcher their own. I think they earn it more so than

someone who lets someone else do the dirty work. I know I couldn't do it, so

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LOL, I can imagine how you felt, Melody!  We used to go to a massive market in

Atlanta where they had rows and rows of tanks and displays of already

slaughtered seafood.  Once, my son was intently squatted down staring at a

particular whole fish that was laying on ice.  My normally quiet son suddenly

pops up and says " hey, mister (to the fishmonger) there is something sticking

out of the mouth of that fish " , as he points furiously.  The monger picks up

the fish in question, and sure enough, there was ANOTHER smaller fish, still

whole and intact, in the mouth of the bigger fish!   I think it was at that

point that I started connecting that much of my food had once had a life!  When

you are raised buying meat and fish packaged up all pretty, it's easy to forget

where it comes from.   I have since learned to fish, but only eat what I can

catch myself, which is only once or twice a year.  Otherwise, I am happy to

" slaughter " my veggies and sprouts,

lol.

From: frecs7

Subject: Re: A new sprout lady in your midsts

To: sproutpeople

Date: Wednesday, April 20, 2011, 12:11 PM

 

Sorry but with all due respect, that's just silliness. A few generations ago,

most everyone did slaughter their own food and having to do so did not make them

vegetarians. They didn't have the luxury to think of animals as soft cuddly

pets...they were food.

Tina

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> I personally don't eat critters, but I have a lot of respect for those that

can raise and butcher their own.  I think they earn it more so than someone

who lets someone else do the dirty work.  I know I couldn't do it, so I don't

eat meat.  I think if more of us HAD to butcher our own, there would be more

vegetarians in the world!  

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Good grief.  I had a feeling YOU would make this about vegetarians being self

righteous.  For your info, I am vegetarian ONLY because I have a kidney problem

that makes it impossible for me to digest animal protein, and it is people like

YOU who pass judgements without having a clue what you are talking about.  If I

could, I would devour barnyard critters at every meal, but I can't, so I have

taken the time to educate myself about ways to nourish my body that are better

for ME.  Again, I will thank YOU not to judge what you don't know about.  The

original post was merely an observation, not a declaration that the world

shouldn't eat meat.  Perhaps pay closer attention before you voice your

unfounded opinion?  I suggest we close this thread without further comment.

Subject: Re: A new sprout lady in your midsts

To: sproutpeople

Date: Wednesday, April 20, 2011, 1:45 PM

 

It never ceases to amaze me how people project onto the whole world their

own limited experience. Believe it or not, just because YOU don't doesn't mean

NO ONE does. It is this very attitude that makes me say that vegans/vegetarians

can be very self-righteous.

Tina

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can raise and butcher their own.  I think they earn it more so than

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