Guest guest Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 My son was chelated at age 3 using the Andy Cutler method with GREAT results. I never added the ALA but did DMSA only for 6 months with very big gains. I consider my son recovered and considered this a big part of his overall recovery. I would like to share the testimony of a man from Serbia that sent me an update of his son’s response to the Cutler protocol. I am a big believer in this protocol. Lori Knowles Dear Mrs Knowles, > > we still cherish the memory of our short, but very meaningful meeting in > Belgrade, June. > It was the moment when our last trace of doubt disappeared about the DMSA > administration. Simply said, you told us what we already strongly believed > in. We left the meeting completely sure that we were about to start with > DMSA therapy. > Unfortunately, the therapy had to wait for another 10 weeks more. At the > very moment we were having a meeting with you, Rastko (now 4 and a half > years old) was developing symptoms of infective mononucleosis. By the time > we returned from our meeting, his glands were swollen badly. Two days > later, the Epstein-Barr virus test showed that Rastko was infected. He > spent the next 8 weeks resting and waiting for recovery. His liver and > spleen were extremely swollen. But, 6 weeks after our meeting with you, > they started to recover back to normal size. > Tests made 8 weeks after the first symptoms showed that there were no > signs of infection in the blood: all figures were back into normal - the > Epstein-Barr factor, liver parameters (ALT, AST, ...), etc. > So we waited for another week and started with the first treatment on July > 28. > We don't want to spend much of your time by going in the details of each > chelation cycle. > So, we'll just point the main facts: > Each cycle starts at every second Friday, 9:00 PM and finishes on Monday, > 5:00 PM. Each dose is administered exactly on 4-hour periods, with no more > than 5 minute tolerance. > First two cycles (the first month) were based on dividing the 100mg > capsule into 6 doses, making the modest 16mg dosage. > After that, the liver tests showed no significant elevation of vital > parameters, so we moved up to 25mg doses. We are still at these doses. > > Finally, our experience: WE ARE AMAZED! > We experience something that we call the " each second Tuesday " phenomenon. > The cycle ends on each second Monday afternoon. The next day, Tuesday, is > always a day to remember. We'll point out the " milestones " of Rastko's > improvement, each of them happening on each second Tuesday, in regular > 14-day periods: > - the first " magic Tuesday " : for the first time, he told his Dad " bye " > when Dad left for office. > - 14 days later, for the first time, he asked " what is that? " . > - 14 days later, for the first time, he started riding his tricycle at > home. The next day he was riding his tricycle for an hour up and down his > street, in the open. > - 14 days later, for the first time, he told a song of 16 lines by heart. > He remembered it by hearing it just for 3 consecutive times. > - 14 days later, for the first time, he wrote something completely on his > own using a crayon and a paper. In a single evening, he filled more than > 20 pages writing names of his favorite games and tv shows: Noddy, > Warcraft, Starcraft, and even the following phrase: 'The incredible world > of DIC'. All in that first single evening. Of course, he wrote his first > words in English, since he really speaks and understands the language. > - 14 days later there was no excessive improvement seen, because there > were traces of a mild flu mixed with DMSA administration symptoms. He was > too 'yeasty'. But, again, the days after the cycle showed improved > communication skills > - 14 days later he simply behaves like a boy, like our son, completely > aware of the surrounding world. He is empathic and witty. Most of all, he > is a happy and content child. > > There are no words that can really explain how we feel. Simply, Dad, Mom, > older brother Luka (13 years old) and Rastko (4,5 years old) are a family, > in the full meaning of that word, for the first time. We do not see the > light at the end of the tunnel: no, we are in the very light. All we pray > for is the light to remain. > > It should be noted that we are the only case in this part of the world > (Serbia and Montenegro) that have experience with DMSA, as far as we know. > We are in contact with a lot of parents of children who could potentially > benefit from DMSA administration. However, these people still have doubts. > > Hoping to return back to you in the future with more good news, we stay > with best regards. > Re: Cutler Protocol--detox mercury and other toxicins Posted by: " Rei " milesfunding@... milesfunding Mon Sep 8, 2008 6:17 am (PDT) Thank you, , , with your encouragement, we are on the mission as we speak --Mercury Free. Sincerely, Rei Branch Manager Network Funding, LP 6070 Gateway East, Suite 509 El Paso, TX 79905 Phone: Fax: Cell: LOWER YOUR MORTGAGE PAYMENT ON A 5.5% INTEREST RATE TODAY!! We can't control gas price, but we can help you lower your house payment today. From: Bondy <myrubygirlgmail> Subject: Re: Cutler Protocol--detox mercury and other toxicins To: mb12 valtrex Date: Sunday, September 7, 2008, 11:31 PM There is a woman in the Autism/Mercury group who recovered her 18 year old son. It's an amazing story and there are pictures of him in the photos section of the group. He went from never showering or leaving the house to driving to Vegas, getting his hair cut, wearing clothes, going out on dates and riding a bike in a very short time. All while still eating crappy fast food. Join that group and check out the photos. She's a very nice woman and I'm sure you could message her and ask her questions. It's never too late. > >> My son's hair test reported with very high level of aluminum. How > >> do I get alumimum down? Any suggetions on cookware without > >> aluminum or any alternative cookware to avoid aluminum? > >> Sincerely, > >> > >> Rei > >> *Branch Manager* > >> Network Funding, LP > >> 6070 Gateway East, Suite 509 > >> El Paso, TX 79905 > >> Phone: > >> Fax: > >> Cell: > >> Less in Debt. More in Life. > >> Ask me about debt consolidation loans. > >> > >> > >> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 , we have never started any chelation work, although my son is 10 years old, is it too late for us? This our first hair test and found out he is merucy toxic...So far we give him epsem salt every day, and magnesium sulfate cream every night, will that also help chelation? or this is for something else? I looked up the cutler protocols, learned about DMSA, also noticed many of us in the group discussed bout DMSA, is it the supp we use in cutler protocol? I can't find any more info on the internet about cutler protocol, can you send me more info on that? Thanks a lot., Sincerely, Rei Branch Manager Network Funding, LP 6070 Gateway East, Suite 509 El Paso, TX 79905 Phone: Fax: Cell: Less in Debt. More in Life. Ask me about debt consolidation loans. My son's hair test reported with very high level of aluminum. How do I get alumimum down? Any suggetions on cookware without aluminum or any alternative cookware to avoid aluminum? Sincerely, Rei Branch Manager Network Funding, LP 6070 Gateway East, Suite 509 El Paso, TX 79905 Phone: Fax: Cell: Less in Debt. More in Life. Ask me about debt consolidation loans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 Hi Rei, I don't think its ever too late. Obviously there is a strong tendency for younger kids to heal faster. That just means it will take more time and be a bit more hard work, but you wouldn't even be on this group if you weren't up for more of that. Epsom salts and magnesium sulfate are to assist the body with sulfation. Sulfation is a very important detox system the body relies on every day to try and stay healthy. What happens is a sulfate group is attached to a molecule of something, and this will change the solubility of that molecule and also the way it is metabolised in the body. So the molecule now becomes water soluble and much easier for the body to excrete it. So this is very important, however its not going to solve a chronic metal problem, where the heavy metals are inside the cells and tissue. I'll send you some more specific info on Cutler protocol. Rei wrote: , we have never started any chelation work, although my son is 10 years old, is it too late for us? This our first hair test and found out he is merucy toxic...So far we give him epsem salt every day, and magnesium sulfate cream every night, will that also help chelation? or this is for something else? I looked up the cutler protocols, learned about DMSA, also noticed many of us in the group discussed bout DMSA, is it the supp we use in cutler protocol? I can't find any more info on the internet about cutler protocol, can you send me more info on that? Thanks a lot., Sincerely, Rei Branch Manager Network Funding, LP 6070 Gateway East, Suite 509 El Paso, TX 79905 Phone: Fax: Cell: Less in Debt. More in Life. Ask me about debt consolidation loans. My son's hair test reported with very high level of aluminum. How do I get alumimum down? Any suggetions on cookware without aluminum or any alternative cookware to avoid aluminum? Sincerely, Rei Branch Manager Network Funding, LP 6070 Gateway East, Suite 509 El Paso, TX 79905 Phone: Fax: Cell: Less in Debt. More in Life. Ask me about debt consolidation loans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 There is a woman in the Autism/Mercury group who recovered her 18 year old son. It's an amazing story and there are pictures of him in the photos section of the group. He went from never showering or leaving the house to driving to Vegas, getting his hair cut, wearing clothes, going out on dates and riding a bike in a very short time. All while still eating crappy fast food. Join that group and check out the photos. She's a very nice woman and I'm sure you could message her and ask her questions. It's never too late. > >> My son's hair test reported with very high level of aluminum. How > >> do I get alumimum down? Any suggetions on cookware without > >> aluminum or any alternative cookware to avoid aluminum? > >> Sincerely, > >> > >> Rei > >> *Branch Manager* > >> Network Funding, LP > >> 6070 Gateway East, Suite 509 > >> El Paso, TX 79905 > >> Phone: > >> Fax: > >> Cell: > >> Less in Debt. More in Life. > >> Ask me about debt consolidation loans. > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 -We didn't access DAN! treatments until our son was nearly 8 yrs old,although he had been on special diets before this. I truly believe that methylation and detoxification are helping our son to recover. I have now got hopes of him coping as he gets older, which we never had before. It is certainly not too late to start allof this at 10. Getting the metals out and any inflammation under control must be considered, but you will be helped by a good DAN! doctor. Any of those you frequently see on the danwebcasts can be trusted to do their level best for your son. Good luck, sue -- In mb12 valtrex , " Bondy " wrote: > > There is a woman in the Autism/Mercury group who recovered her 18 year > old son. It's an amazing story and there are pictures of him in the > photos section of the group. He went from never showering or leaving > the house to driving to Vegas, getting his hair cut, wearing clothes, > going out on dates and riding a bike in a very short time. All while > still eating crappy fast food. > > Join that group and check out the photos. She's a very nice woman and > I'm sure you could message her and ask her questions. It's never too late. > > > > >> My son's hair test reported with very high level of aluminum. How > > >> do I get alumimum down? Any suggetions on cookware without > > >> aluminum or any alternative cookware to avoid aluminum? > > >> Sincerely, > > >> > > >> Rei > > >> *Branch Manager* > > >> Network Funding, LP > > >> 6070 Gateway East, Suite 509 > > >> El Paso, TX 79905 > > >> Phone: > > >> Fax: > > >> Cell: > > >> Less in Debt. More in Life. > > >> Ask me about debt consolidation loans. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 Yes, her name is . > > >> My son's hair test reported with very high level of aluminum. How > > >> do I get alumimum down? Any suggetions on cookware without > > >> aluminum or any alternative cookware to avoid aluminum? > > >> Sincerely, > > >> > > >> Rei > > >> *Branch Manager* > > >> Network Funding, LP > > >> 6070 Gateway East, Suite 509 > > >> El Paso, TX 79905 > > >> Phone: > > >> Fax: > > >> Cell: > > >> Less in Debt. More in Life. > > >> Ask me about debt consolidation loans. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 The photos are titled " bestbirths child 1 " Here is her story that I have saved, because it is SO inspiring: I haven't kept up with this thread but we recovered our son who is now 19 when he was 17-18. We did not fully chelate, probably only got ½ done through the andy cutler method before having to stop to pay for medication for our daughter with uveitis. We chelated 8 months. Here is an update: A few days ago he went to rockfest and had so much fun and came back sunburned from 14 hours in the sun. He has a car, and a job and is in college. He wrote a persuasive speech for his speech class on procrastination. He has other college students that want to roommate with him and they all went looking for apartments by the college but they would not rent to them because it was too many kids in a 3 bedroom so now they are looking for a house to rent. He is brilliant in his job with computers, helps me around the house, and has friends and goes out socially, he gives eye contact and can have conversations now. He interacts with his siblings and his " chore " is to motivate them to do their chores since he is so great at that. Yesterday he told me that while watching my younger son work, he found that he didn't get any work done because he spent the day tattling on other people and annoying them so they couldn't get their chores done. He shows great management skill potential and shows insight into others with his thinking. Prior to chelation, he didn't bathe, didn't leave his room (ocd) and didn't have a conversation beyond " need food " or can you buy me such and such video game. This is the boy that was hardly verbal and relatives told me that setting a goal of driving was too ambitious of a goal to ever set for him. I still do not think we are finished Chelating him. My next step I think should be testing his adrenals and fixing them, and then he might feel like continuing on with chelation again when we can afford it. His sleep clock is off, so that is one gain that has regressed. Please understand that I get a lot of people wanting to know what we did so I can't answer every private email as I would like. We did the andy cutler method of chelation with a strong continual rotation of yeast fighters (everything but the kitchen sink) protocol in place while he ate a diet of pizza hut, taco bell, burger king and subway. So, basically you can chelate successfully and eat crap which I find really interesting because I could go from all organic foods and eat crap to afford chelators then go back to all organic, in theory it would work… Most often we would do a 3 day round every 2 weeks for 8 months, taking longer breaks for illness if yeast got out of control but staying on supplements inbetween rounds as well as on rounds using dmsa/ala. Dmsa only for the first month or two. Starting with very low doses, like 12.5mg, dosed every 4 hours dmsa, every 3 with ala. We also had an extreme supplementation protocol (if he needed it, he got it, and he needed a lot because of his symptoms and diet), with high zinc, clo, and amino acids which was inspired by the Pfeiffer protocol. He also needed d-lactate free probiotics. Chelation is so individual. YMMV, your mileage may vary. Each supplement, and there was about 20 different ones, with like probably 100 individual vitamins/minerals/etc. a day or more, maybe 150. It was an amazing amount of pills. Fistfulls of pills. Not everyone will need that much. The vitamin C alone was fourty capsules a day (you give to bowel tolerance). He took 4 caps of C0-Q10 a day, we gave him lots of extra vitamins he needed. The CoQ was for his headaches. You will find the individual supplements your child needs, and test each one individually, so be prepared for that. I can't emphasize enough how financially ready you have to be, and purchase supplements in bulk and own a capsule making machine. Then there are people who do it for much less money and use the basic supplements. I am just saying what it took to recover our son was on the extreme end of cost and amount of supplements. When we begin chelating again, he might not need all that. He eats a much healthier diet now, drinks water, and eats food at home. Ref list of supplements he took (to find your childs dosage and needs search onibasu.com) Vit C as sodium ascorbate (10,000 mg a day) Magnesium chelated Calcium Chelated zinc (54mg 4 times a day which is way over the RDA, FYI) Selenium molybdenum Vit e Cod liver oil Grapeseed extract with phosphodytlcholine We found phosphydyltcholine gave him gains so we switched to lethicin Metzger's research states CLO/Combined with other supplements give gains and we saw this with our son. L Taurine Orthomega Pfeiffer aminos (search Pfeiffer protocol-they gave me their amino list over the phone when I explained my son's gains) P5P Chromium Can't remember all of them sorry Now B-50 L lysine (can't remember why) Gut/yeast Houstons trio with food Custom probiotics away from food Candidase away from food Rotation of 2months of each MCT oil/Uva Ursi/GSE for yeast Super strength oregano away from everything dosed middle of night. Reducing sugar at times, sometimes on round. ALA stirs up yeast so 1 month prior get yeast protocol in place if your Child is yeasty. Reduce sugars prior to ala. Activated charcoal/bentonite clay/to absorb yeast dieoff given l hour after yeast fighters Bad breath/casket breath Silva solution then we switched to a better and more effective solution (andy does not agree with giving silver, so we found something that worked that was different, Chlorophyll) Chlorophyll for bacterial smell For sleep Inositol For migranes Co Q 10 I think he took 100 mgs 4x a day, buy powder from now for $100, cap it yourself in small caps He took 4 small caps a day. On the frequency of dmsa/ala we always used andy's protocol of 3 or 4 hours on the half life depending on what we were giving ala, dmsa, or both together. We would fail the round if we missed a dose and stop the round. I find it shocking and appauling that people would use less frequent dosing…this is pointless in my opinion, displacing mercury and heavy metals rather than chelating them out. I probably have missed some things but this gives a general idea….My son is well now. His chemical sensitivity is gone and he is no longer receiving disability benefits because he said " He is no longer disabled " . He also used to be chemically sensitive and was receiving ssi for that and is no longer. Andy if I ever met you in real life I think I would burst into tears and give you such a big hug. We rearranged our entire lives around the 3 or 4 hour schedules, having multiple people manning phones with multiple cellphone alarms set, with backup plans A through G to make sure he took the doses on time. If I was not home and could not get ahold of someone at home to give him his dose, I immediately turned around and headed home to dose him myself. This happened so many times I can't even count. Even when I pre planned to have two people home by the phone (my mom or my son's siblings). Plus when my son's sleep schedule was off and he was awake nights and slept days, I dosed him his supplements every four hours at night!!!! Then, he eventually six months into chelation could take his pills himself. Towards the end, he could spend the weekend at a friends and chelate himself and set alarms and be responsible for his own doses. On top of that, when he got better and was awake days instead of nights, my son needed an extra dose of oregano for yeast and the only time to give it was in the middle of the night since it needed to be away from supplements and he took so many. So I woke up in the middle of the night every night during the last 3 months or so to wake him so that he took that. 3 Words..SO WORTH IT!!!!!!!! So Worth it So Worth it When I see my son right now that is all I can say to encourage you new parents to stick around. It is like birthing a new baby, and parenting a newborn, and we all know that takes being up nights, and really.it's a small price to pay for wellness. A new brain is forming, think of it that way. Chelation is a beautiful dance, and the chelator claws out the toxins, and every three or four hours depending on what you are taking, the chelator needs to change dance partners, that is when you give another. Each new dose of chelator claws onto those heavy metals and gracefully dances the toxins out of the body, and this dance takes place with new partners every three/four hours over three days. To miss a dose is to miss the dance partner and drop the mercury and heavy metals (what we call displacement) and stop that dance from happening. That was an analogy from Andy that helped me understand how it works. I don't want to just move mercury all around and displace it, I want to escort it out of the building. It helped me to think of it that way when I was up at night. > > > >> My son's hair test reported with very high level of > aluminum. How > > > >> do I get alumimum down? Any suggetions on cookware without > > > >> aluminum or any alternative cookware to avoid aluminum? > > > >> Sincerely, > > > >> > > > >> Rei > > > >> *Branch Manager* > > > >> Network Funding, LP > > > >> 6070 Gateway East, Suite 509 > > > >> El Paso, TX 79905 > > > >> Phone: > > > >> Fax: > > > >> Cell: > > > >> Less in Debt. More in Life. > > > >> Ask me about debt consolidation loans. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 You just HAVE to see the photos too. I just could not believe it! Talk about inspiring!! > > > > >> My son's hair test reported with very high level of > > aluminum. How > > > > >> do I get alumimum down? Any suggetions on cookware without > > > > >> aluminum or any alternative cookware to avoid aluminum? > > > > >> Sincerely, > > > > >> > > > > >> Rei > > > > >> *Branch Manager* > > > > >> Network Funding, LP > > > > >> 6070 Gateway East, Suite 509 > > > > >> El Paso, TX 79905 > > > > >> Phone: > > > > >> Fax: > > > > >> Cell: > > > > >> Less in Debt. More in Life. > > > > >> Ask me about debt consolidation loans. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 Wow! I'm going to have to check this story out. My non-ASD 16 year old (not for lack of trying to get a dx) regressed badly after his 7th grade boosters and hasn't gone to school in three years, NEVER leaves the house except to see his psychiatrist or therapist, stinks so bad we have to hold our breath when he walks by (he basically lost all ability to function as far as daily skills and remembering to do them or wanting to do them or being able to organize to do them). We're on our third round of the Cutler protocol, and two months into mHBOT and have been doing the recommended supplements from our DAN!, although no diet because he refuses to do that and the changes have been phenomenal..... he is off of an antidepressant, off of Seroquel and no longer taking anything to sleep. He quit playing World of Warcraft 24/7 (Arggghhhhh I hate that game!!!), will eat dinner with us at the same table at the same time, will sit in the same room and watch tv for five minutes or so with us, will play with his little brother and hasn't threatened to kill anybody in four or five months. This alone is more than we hoped for, but to think he could be cruising off to Vegas with clean hair, a clean butt, a girlfriend AND a haircut is beyond my wildest dreams..... > > >> My son's hair test reported with very high level of aluminum. How > > >> do I get alumimum down? Any suggetions on cookware without > > >> aluminum or any alternative cookware to avoid aluminum? > > >> Sincerely, > > >> > > >> Rei > > >> *Branch Manager* > > >> Network Funding, LP > > >> 6070 Gateway East, Suite 509 > > >> El Paso, TX 79905 > > >> Phone: > > >> Fax: > > >> Cell: > > >> Less in Debt. More in Life. > > >> Ask me about debt consolidation loans. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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