Fw: DSM-V Update: Thank you for the calls, keep them coming, and our responses to (embittered or evasive) responses

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PLEASE - make sure you spare a few minutes and give the APA and the individuals clarifying Asperger's Syndrome in the DSM V your input. There are so many children and adults that suffer from Asperger's and without the support and lessons, they will not be able to function well in society. Without the diagnosis, they will be denied any support; therefore, the parents will have to foot the bill, which at times can be very expensive. By not getting the services they need, we as humanity are denying these individuals the care they so desperately need.The emails for the APA and DSM V are at the bottom of this forwarded email.Thank you, Baer ----- Forwarded Message ----- To: amandabaer76@... Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 11:36 AM Subject: DSM-V Update: Thank you for the calls, keep them coming, and our responses to (embittered or evasive) responses

Please forward and post to whomever and wherever you deem it appropriate....

Dear all:

Thank you for the calls and the emails. We are having a positive effect, and with 10 months before the final version of the new DSM is due, we have a chance of reversing the Committee's intentions of significantly reducing the numbers of those who would qualify for a diagnosis. Please keep it up starting Monday morning.

Once again, the New York Times is speculating that the new criteria would qualify only 76% of those currently diagnosed with classic autism, 24% of those currently diagnosed with Asperger's, and 16% of those currently diagnosed with PDD-NOS. This means that:

• Children who do not qualify for a diagnosis under the new revisions will almost certainly be denied special education funding by their cities and states (after all, what school board will spend money on a child with no officialy recognized learning challenge?)

• Many adults on SSI, SSDI, or Disability who barely meet the criteria for these services may not have those services (and health coverage) anymore.

• We risk a possible return to the days of 1993 and prior where negative interpretations of behavioral differences were rather status quo.

The motivations behind these mind-boggling changes, are very much unclear to us. While the autism world in our current void of information is speculating a multitude of possibilities—the most dramatic being improper influence of insurance companies—we would urge people to continue pressing the DSM-V committee with the idea that the current committee members have experience only with the more-challenged end of the spectrum. None have any real experience with the end of the spectrum whose challenges are less physically-visible.

In addition to your talking points, and if you believe that the motivations are in any way fiscal, we urge you to remind the committee of how, in the big picture, the DSM-IV (which expanded spectrum diagnoses) saved us money. When you think of (though cannot estimate) the reduction in anxiety, anger, and depression, that was caused by legions of people finally understanding who they were—that they were wired differently, not rude . . . argue the mind-boggling cost of returning to those levels of anxiety, anger, and depression.

Responses

While in our last update, we conveyed the APA's statement that they were not taking comments at the present time, committee members and other organizations are now starting to respond through either internal or external media. In general you should feel you have every right to respond to these responses. The two most frequently seen tones (followed by our suggestions) are follows:

1. "Well, yes, your child may not qualify for specialized education under the new criteria, but please bear with us. Our hope is that this will improve services for all." They do not go on to explain how this is possible.

1R. Our no-brainer suggestion is to point out how senseless this response is. If they're admitting that fewer will qualify, how does this improve chances of "improving services for all." If your anger is getting the better of you, politely state that their response makes things worse because you feel your intelligence is being insulted.

2. These events are reviving the dormant "competition of suffering." Many people (who likely have some connection to a significantly-challenged fellow spectrumite) across the country in facebook posts, tweets...etc. are proclaiming "Good! Autism needs to be less confusing. These (AS or PDD-NOS) people never should have been brought in to the spectrum equation."

2R. Do not meet their hate with hate. The self-incriminating and emotionally-unhealthy nature of these attacks is the product of their being unable to grasp the complexity of the spectrum, or they are simply overwhelmed and underserved when compared with their needs. Yes, they may simply be bad people, but we won't know that (and we have bad people too). As they invalidate the experiences of others, do not match their ugliness. If you must respond, something appropriate would be akin to "I find it so sad that you would deny help to someone else simply because you still need help (embellish with detail that perhaps pertains to your experiences)." Show them, do not tell them, how ill they were in the moment of writing.

Once again our facebook page is the best place to dig up prior developments. And once again, keep the calls coming. Call the American Psychiatric Association at . They will ask you not to call, but please keep calling. In addition, please email them at dsm5@... and apa@... (apologies: we misspelled the latter in our last correspondence).

Look for a survey from us soon too.

With massive thanks, we are

Yours, y'all,

Carley

Executive Director

GRASP

The Global and Regional Asperger Syndrome Partnership, Inc.

666 Broadway, Suite 825

New York, NY 10012

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Well said, :-)

The emails didn't post probably b/c of the yahoo group's settings...

To protest the DSM-V changes, please keep calling and/or email them

at dsm5 @ psych.org, and apa @ psych.org

Delete the spaces between and you've got the whole email address above for the

dsm5 and apa :-)

Link to the note posted (it's out on facebook):

https://www.facebook.com/notes/grasp/update-on-the-dsm-v-revisions/3337321733269\

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> PLEASE - make sure you spare a few minutes and give the APA and the

individuals clarifying Asperger's Syndrome in the DSM V your input. There are so

many children and adults that suffer from Asperger's and without the support and

lessons, they will not be able to function well in society. Without the

diagnosis, they will be denied any support; therefore, the parents will have to

foot the bill, which at times can be very expensive. By not getting the services

they need, we as humanity are denying these individuals the care they so

desperately need.

>

> The emails for the APA and DSM V are at the bottom of this forwarded email.

>

>

> Thank you,

>

>  

> Baer

>

>

> ----- Forwarded Message -----

> >

> >To: amandabaer76@...

> >Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 11:36 AM

> >Subject: DSM-V Update: Thank you for the calls, keep them coming, and our

responses to (embittered or evasive) responses

> >

> >

> >Please forward and post to whomever and wherever you deem it appropriate....

> > 

> >Dear all:

> > 

> >Thank you for the calls and the emails. We are having a positive effect, and

with 10 months before the final version of the new DSM is due, we have a chance

of reversing the Committee's intentions of significantly reducing the numbers of

those who would qualify for a diagnosis. Please keep it up starting Monday

morning.

> > 

> >Once again, the New York Times is speculating that the new criteria would

qualify only 76% of those currently diagnosed with classic autism, 24% of those

currently diagnosed with Asperger's, and 16% of those currently diagnosed with

PDD-NOS. This means that:

> > 

> >• Children who do not qualify for a diagnosis under the new revisions will

almost certainly be denied special education funding by their cities and states

(after all, what school board will spend money on a child with no officialy

recognized learning challenge?)

> > 

> >• Many adults on SSI, SSDI, or Disability who barely meet the criteria for

these services may not have those services (and health coverage) anymore.

> > 

> >• We risk a possible return to the days of 1993 and prior where negative

interpretations of behavioral differences were rather status quo.

> > 

> >The motivations behind these mind-boggling changes, are very much unclear to

us. While the autism world in our current void of information is speculating a

multitude of possibilities†" the most dramatic being improper influence of

insurance companies†" we would urge people to continue pressing the DSM-V

committee with the idea that the current committee members have experience only

with the more-challenged end of the spectrum. None have any real experience with

the end of the spectrum whose challenges are less physically-visible.

> > 

> >In addition to your talking points, and if you believe that the motivations

are in any way fiscal, we urge you to remind the committee of how, in the big

picture, the DSM-IV (which expanded spectrum diagnoses) saved us money. When you

think of (though cannot estimate) the reduction in anxiety, anger, and

depression, that was caused by legions of people finally understanding who they

were†" that they were wired differently, not rude . . . argue the mind-boggling

cost of returning to those levels of anxiety, anger, and depression.

> > 

> >Responses

> > 

> >While in our last update, we conveyed the APA's statement that they were not

taking comments at the present time, committee members and other organizations

are now starting to respond through either internal or external media. In

general you should feel you have every right to respond to these responses. The

two most frequently seen tones (followed by our suggestions) are follows:

> > 

> >1. " Well, yes, your child may not qualify for specialized education under the

new criteria, but please bear with us. Our hope is that this will improve

services for all. " They do not go on to explain how this is possible.

> > 

> >1R. Our no-brainer suggestion is to point out how senseless this response is.

If they're admitting that fewer will qualify, how does this improve chances of

" improving services for all. " If your anger is getting the better of you,

politely state that their response makes things worse because you feel your

intelligence is being insulted.

> > 

> >2. These events are reviving the dormant " competition of suffering. " Many

people (who likely have some connection to a significantly-challenged fellow

spectrumite) across the country in facebook posts, tweets...etc. are proclaiming

" Good! Autism needs to be less confusing. These (AS or PDD-NOS) people never

should have been brought in to the spectrum equation. "

> > 

> >2R. Do not meet their hate with hate. The self-incriminating and

emotionally-unhealthy nature of these attacks is the product of their being

unable to grasp the complexity of the spectrum, or they are simply overwhelmed

and underserved when compared with their needs. Yes, they may simply be bad

people, but we won't know that (and we have bad people too). As they invalidate

the experiences of others, do not match their ugliness. If you must respond,

something appropriate would be akin to " I find it so sad that you would deny

help to someone else simply because you still need help (embellish with detail

that perhaps pertains to your experiences). " Show them, do not tell them, how

ill they were in the moment of writing. 

> > 

> >Once again our facebook page is the best place to dig up prior developments.

And once again, keep the calls coming. Call the American Psychiatric Association

at . They will ask you not to call, but please keep calling. In

addition, please email them at dsm5@... and apa@... (apologies: we misspelled

the latter in our last correspondence).

> > 

> >Look for a survey from us soon too.

> > 

> >With massive thanks, we are

> > 

> >Yours, y'all,

> > 

> > Carley

> >Executive Director

> > 

> >GRASP

> >The Global and Regional Asperger Syndrome Partnership, Inc.

> >666 Broadway, Suite 825

> >New York, NY 10012

> >p + f = 1.

> >www.grasp.org

> >

> >Help GRASP make a difference. Donate now by clicking the link below:

> >http://www.nycharities.org/donate/charitydonate.asp?ID=2223

> >

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> > Change email address/Manage your subscription / Leave mailing list

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