Guest guest Posted June 13, 2002 Report Share Posted June 13, 2002 My understanding is if you heat the flax seeds you kill the good omega's you get from flax. Laurie Flaxeed > > > << I have been eating freshly ground flax seed for a long time because I > thought it was good and healthy. Today I came upon the webpage > below and would like to hear your opinions on this artice. > Jim?? I know you grind yours also. > ===== > > Flaxseed meal can be added to any baked or cook dish-breads, muffins, > pancakes, casseroles, etc. You should not eat it raw! Raw flaxseed contains > a toxin called thio-cyanate-a cyanide-like compound. This toxin can be found > in the blood after eating raw flaxseed. Cooking neutralizes this compound, > making it harmless > http://www.coconut-info.com/facts_on_flax.htm > >> > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2002 Report Share Posted June 13, 2002 I have heard that Flaxseed when heated goes ransid. Whenever I had to travel to Houston to get the Flax Seed Oil Capsules from the health food store, it was always in the refrigerator. I would bring a cooler along to keep it cool. And I was told by the health store lady that it was recommended NOT to get the pills warm at all. Gale ^i^ --- " Laurie K. " wrote: > My understanding is if you heat the flax seeds you > kill the good omega's you > get from flax. > Laurie > Flaxeed > > > > > > > > << I have been eating freshly ground flax seed > for a long time because I > > thought it was good and healthy. Today I came > upon the webpage > > below and would like to hear your opinions on > this artice. > > Jim?? I know you grind yours also. > > ===== > > > > Flaxseed meal can be added to any baked or cook > dish-breads, muffins, > > pancakes, casseroles, etc. You should not eat it > raw! Raw flaxseed > contains > > a toxin called thio-cyanate-a cyanide-like > compound. This toxin can be > found > > in the blood after eating raw flaxseed. Cooking > neutralizes this > compound, > > making it harmless > > http://www.coconut-info.com/facts_on_flax.htm > > >> > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with > oxidative therapies, and > other alternative self-help subjects. > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The > things you will find here > are for information and research purposes only. We > are people sharing > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found > here, you do so at your > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common > sense, and the ability to > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining > the list you agree to > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do > not use any ideas found > here without consulting a medical professional, > unless you are a researcher > or health care provider. > > > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW > e-mail to the following > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE > SUBJECT LINE or BODY of > the message! : > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your > subscription to normal mode. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2002 Report Share Posted June 17, 2002 Read the whole article. It's rather long and its very interesting. Says that the oil is not all that good for you. It goes rancid quickly and that's bad. Says the raw oil has a toxin in it. And its best to grind it fresh and cook it. Its the fiber that has the benefits. It says that most of the proclaimed benefits of flax oil are from people trying to sell it. Its on a site that sells coconut oil. Interesting -- worth considering. At 07:02 PM 06-13-02, you wrote: >I have heard that Flaxseed when heated goes ransid. >Whenever I had to travel to Houston to get the Flax >Seed Oil Capsules from the health food store, it was >always in the refrigerator. I would bring a cooler >along to keep it cool. And I was told by the health >store lady that it was recommended NOT to get the >pills warm at all. > >Gale ^i^ >--- " Laurie K. " wrote: > > My understanding is if you heat the flax seeds you > > kill the good omega's you > > get from flax. > > Laurie > > Flaxeed > > > > > > > > > > > > > << I have been eating freshly ground flax seed > > for a long time because I > > > thought it was good and healthy. Today I came > > upon the webpage > > > below and would like to hear your opinions on > > this artice. > > > Jim?? I know you grind yours also. > > > ===== > > > > > > Flaxseed meal can be added to any baked or cook > > dish-breads, muffins, > > > pancakes, casseroles, etc. You should not eat it > > raw! Raw flaxseed > > contains > > > a toxin called thio-cyanate-a cyanide-like > > compound. This toxin can be > > found > > > in the blood after eating raw flaxseed. Cooking > > neutralizes this > > compound, > > > making it harmless > > > http://www.coconut-info.com/facts_on_flax.htm > > > >> > > > > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with > > oxidative therapies, and > > other alternative self-help subjects. > > > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The > > things you will find here > > are for information and research purposes only. We > > are people sharing > > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found > > here, you do so at your > > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common > > sense, and the ability to > > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining > > the list you agree to > > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do > > not use any ideas found > > here without consulting a medical professional, > > unless you are a researcher > > or health care provider. > > > > > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW > > e-mail to the following > > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE > > SUBJECT LINE or BODY of > > the message! : > > > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your > > subscription to normal mode. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2002 Report Share Posted June 17, 2002 ,k The article may be interesting, often a load of crap is. If this isn't cheap, underhanded methods to push coconut oil, I've never seen it. Don't know how they think they can get away with it, every alternative doctor, health care person on the planet knows that flax seed oil is of the highest benefit for human health. And everyone knows it has to be refrigerated, why the horse manure about it going rancid??? and you don't cook flax seed... this whole thing is a mind blower of the first degree. ... Re: Flaxeed Read the whole article. It's rather long and its very interesting. Says that the oil is not all that good for you. It goes rancid quickly and that's bad. Says the raw oil has a toxin in it. And its best to grind it fresh and cook it. Its the fiber that has the benefits. It says that most of the proclaimed benefits of flax oil are from people trying to sell it. Its on a site that sells coconut oil. Interesting -- worth considering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2002 Report Share Posted June 17, 2002 > Re: Flaxeed > , > The article may be interesting, often a load of crap is. If this isn't cheap, underhanded methods to push coconut oil, I've never seen it. > Don't know how they think they can get away with it, every alternative doctor, health care person on the planet knows that flax seed oil is of the highest benefit for human health. And everyone knows it has to be refrigerated, why the horse manure about it going rancid??? and you don't cook flax seed... this whole thing is a mind blower of the first degree. > ... Actually, both sides have something to offer that's not horses**t. Here is my take on the flax seed and flax oil situation: Nature has given a coating called a hull to protect all nuts and seeds. This coating contains enzyme inhibitors, which prevents the nuts and seeds from spoiling. When the seeds/nuts are exposed for enough time to the right amount of moisture and warmth, the enzyme inhibitors are INactivated, thereby allowing the enzymes to be activated--which allows the seeds/nuts to sprout. It is these enzyme inhibitors in the protective coating that also makes the nuts and seeds rather indigestible for humans. For this reason, people should probably soak their nuts and seeds before eating them. All seeds and nuts, once they are ground up, lose their protective coating (be it a hull, shell, or something similar) that had previously prevented them from spoiling. Once the hard flax seed is broken, the oil in it makes it highly perishable. You can tell this because even if you buy incredibly fresh oil, as a comparison take some flax seeds and grind them yourself. It's likely that the freshly-ground seeds will have a different taste and smell. I grind my own flax seeds in a Braun " coffee " (to me, spice) grinder; and even after a few weeks in the refrigerator, the ground flax seeds smell " off " to me. That " off " characteristic reminds me of most flax oils I've bought, even oils from reputable companies that swear that their oil is fresh. If you factor in transport time of the oil, and the length of time that flax oil is sitting on the shelf, the oil may well be 1 month old--long enough to, by strict standards, start to go rancid. So, in my experience, it IS true that broken flax seeds--and of course the oil, even more so--spoils quickly. Furthermore, remember that the ground up flax seeds, though fresher than the oil, do contain the enzyme inhibitors that are found in the flax hull. Now the question is, of what value are ground up flax seeds? OR the oil, for that matter? Are there some advantages to flax seeds and oil that would still make it useful to use these products, even after 2 or 3 weeks? I think the answer is " yes. " I give my dogs ground up flax seeds with cottage cheese as a cancer preventative. I also occasionally bake with the ground up flax seeds because they attract lots of water and make a fair substitute for the gluten of wheat and other grains if you're using grain flour that does not contain gluten. People tell me they feel better when using flax seed oil. It's all relative: someone with a really crappy diet might find that eating even 2-month-old flax seed oil is quite an improvement over their old diet. Therefore, despite the disadvantages of flax, I think you have to weigh what flax has to offer with how stale it might be. I don't think it's a simple " black and white " answer like " yes--flax is good for you " or " no--flax is bad for you. " Coconut oil is wonderful too. All real foods have their place. It all depends on the individual and his/her circumstance. Regards, Nina Silver, Ph.D. Author, *The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing* Read the intro and order the book at http://www.healingheart-harmonics.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2002 Report Share Posted June 17, 2002 Some brand of Flaxseed Oil have Hexane in them. Lona Been exposed to radiation? Consequences on my health links. http://tahomagirl.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/radiation-survivors --------- Never let your sense of morals get in the way of doing what's right. -- Isaac Asimov -------------------------- : Says the raw oil has a toxin in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2002 Report Share Posted June 18, 2002 << It says that most of the proclaimed benefits of flax oil are from people trying to sell it. >> I subscribe to a forum : flaxseedoil2 started by Cliff Beckwith, who was diagnosed with prostate cancer at age 69, has been using the Budwig protocol (half-cup flaxseed oil and cottage cheese daily) since then, and just celebrated his 80th birthday. I get my oil from Barlean's and they have had personal contact with Dr. Budwig. I also spoke to the woman on their 800 number who said the oil is safe for about a month without refrigeration. Anyone who is interested in using the oil should look into the flaxseed oil forum...it is loaded with information. Incidentally, Barlean's gives a discount to anyone with cancer. The discount is $10 off on every bottle. I don't think they're doing this " just to sell it. " Dorothy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2002 Report Share Posted June 19, 2002 > Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 09:22:27 EDT > From: dbates3809@... > > > >> It says that most of the proclaimed benefits >> of flax oil are from people trying to sell it. >> > > I subscribe to a forum : flaxseedoil2 > started by Cliff Beckwith, who was diagnosed with prostate > cancer at age 69, has been using the Budwig protocol (half- > cup flaxseed oil and cottage cheese daily) since then, and > just celebrated his 80th birthday. Supposedly, there is something about the mixture of flax oil with sulphured proteins (ala cottage cheese) that minimizes the harmful properties and maximizes the beneficial properties. > I get my oil from > Barlean's and they have had personal contact with Dr. Budwig. > I also spoke to the woman on their 800 number who said the oil > is safe for about a month without refrigeration. Anyone who > is interested in using the oil should look into the flaxseed > oil forum...it is loaded with information. Incidentally, > Barlean's gives a discount to anyone with cancer. > The discount is $10 off on every bottle. I don't think > they're doing this " just to sell it. " > Dorothy There is nothing 'sacred' about the commercial health food industry. There is certainly just as much if not *more* fraud where it is concerned as is in the 'regular' commercial food industry, and it would not surprise me one bit that a company would promote something, mislead people, and even lie, just to sell a product. Also, since most people have no idea about the discount (this is the first I've ever heard of it), I highly doubt that very many people take advantage of the discount. This is not meant as an attack on Barleans - I have no information one way or another about them specifically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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