Guest guest Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 Perhaps " Xylitol " - it's also found in a Nasal Wash name brand: Xlear, which now includes Xylitol, saline, and I believe Grapefruit Seed Extract... Seems much cheaper to make one's own. Have heard contradictory info re GSE - some recommend adding a drop of Tea Tree oil in the saline nasal wash instead of GSE... ~Lusana wrote: What is Zynatol? Baker wrote: I have used KT for this purpose and I liked it very much. >I am a longtime fan of the neti pot, but haven't used it >w/ diluted KT. I experience wonderful results using just a warm water >solution of non-iodized salt (I use a generous pinch or two of kosher >salt in about a cup of warm water). Salt is itself anti-bacterial, and >I think the idea behind flushing with salt solution is that it is most >similar to tears and will be least irritating to the nasal cavity while >it cleanses and flushes. Nori, you might want to try adding zylitol to the water also. A zylitol/saline wash is the cutting edge of nasal washes. The recipe I know calls for 1/8 tsp each of salt and xylitol for each 1/2 cup of water. Definitely works with greater efficacy than salt alone. (I've also added zylitol to the KT wash I used.) People should not use warm water from the tap for this process. It should be good clean water, perhaps filtered or bottled. Boil your water and add the salt and zylitol, then let cool. or, could boil 1/2 the water, dissolve the additives, then add the rest as cold water to cool instantly. Anyway, this guarantees no chlorine in the wash, and also, hot water from the water heater has minerals in it that are not good to ingest. That's my understanding, anyway. --V ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 >Perhaps " Xylitol " - it's also found in a Nasal Wash name brand: Xlear, > which now includes Xylitol, saline, and I believe Grapefruit Seed > Extract... > > Seems much cheaper to make one's own. > > Have heard contradictory info re GSE - some recommend adding a drop of > Tea Tree oil in the saline nasal wash instead of GSE... > > ~Lusana Much cheaper to make at home. The GSE in the commercial stuff is there as a preservative as much as any therapeutic value, but GSE is good in the recipe therapeutically. Tea Tree oil would also be ok, but again only a drop of either of these in 1/2 cup to 1 cup of solution. For this purpose I would choose GSE because there would therefore be no concerns about the solution sitting around for a couple weeks or more. --V ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 Thanks! ~L Baker wrote: >Perhaps " Xylitol " - it's also found in a Nasal Wash name brand: Xlear, > which now includes Xylitol, saline, and I believe Grapefruit Seed > Extract... > > Seems much cheaper to make one's own. > > Have heard contradictory info re GSE - some recommend adding a drop of > Tea Tree oil in the saline nasal wash instead of GSE... > > ~Lusana Much cheaper to make at home. The GSE in the commercial stuff is there as a preservative as much as any therapeutic value, but GSE is good in the recipe therapeutically. Tea Tree oil would also be ok, but again only a drop of either of these in 1/2 cup to 1 cup of solution. For this purpose I would choose GSE because there would therefore be no concerns about the solution sitting around for a couple weeks or more. --V ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 , What is mullein? TIA, ~Lusana CMR wrote: Hi Vickie, If you mean Xylitol, you can buy it at Vitaglo.com and it's pretty cheap, as is stevia, which has the same action and is easier to find. Personally, I will stick with mullein for a neti pot - the price beats xylitiol and stevia. Re: Re: Neti Pot, Diluted KT, and Sinus Infections > > >>Did you mean xylitol? >>CMR > > I keep not getting posts from people and only seeing them when they are > quoted by someone else. So if I miss a question asked of me, that's why. > > Zylitol is a sugar alcohol that occurs naturally in fruits and > vegetables. It was first refined and used in Finland 60 years ago, and it > is widely used there (they refine theirs from birch trees). It is yummy > has > no off-taste, and is slightly cooling in the mouth. It is used > spoon-for-spoon like sugar, and looks like white sugar. It has a distinct > bacterial-inhibiting action, which is why it is now being used in natural > toothpastes as the sweetener because it is shown in scientific studies to > reduce tooth decay. It is also being used in ear solutions, especially > for > children, as well as nasal solutions. I have a particular fondness for a > sweetener that is this good for me (I made fudge with it once that was > dynamite-- imagine chewy fudge that is good for your teeth). > > It is a low glycemic sweetener with about 30% fewer calories than sugar, > it > is said to be safe for diabetics and other people with blood sugar > problems > as it is not metabolized like sugar. Try Googling zylitol and you'll see. > > HOWEVER! It cannot be used as the sugar/sweetener in brewing KT. It does > not have the glucose/fructose chemistry required. Also, daily intake > above 50 grams (12+ teaspoons) may have a laxative effect (I've never seen > this as I don't eat that much sweet stuff). > > --V > > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ > --A.J. Muste > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 Hi, Mullein is an herb used for respiratory complaints. You just take a teaspoon of it, add it to a cup of water, bring it to a boil, let it steep 5 minutes or so, then strain and cool to body temperature. If you are sick, you can use a plastic squirt bottle instead of a $33 dollar neti pot to irrigate your nasal passages, gargle with it, or drink it. Of course, drinking KT would help a lot, although I would imagine using something as acidic as KT to irrigate your sinuses would not work. Has anyone tried gargling with KT? Did it work? Re: Re: Neti Pot, Diluted KT, and Sinus Infections > > >> >> >>>Did you mean xylitol? >>>CMR >> >> I keep not getting posts from people and only seeing them when they are >> quoted by someone else. So if I miss a question asked of me, that's why. >> >> Zylitol is a sugar alcohol that occurs naturally in fruits and >> vegetables. It was first refined and used in Finland 60 years ago, and it >> is widely used there (they refine theirs from birch trees). It is yummy >> has >> no off-taste, and is slightly cooling in the mouth. It is used >> spoon-for-spoon like sugar, and looks like white sugar. It has a distinct >> bacterial-inhibiting action, which is why it is now being used in natural >> toothpastes as the sweetener because it is shown in scientific studies to >> reduce tooth decay. It is also being used in ear solutions, especially >> for >> children, as well as nasal solutions. I have a particular fondness for a >> sweetener that is this good for me (I made fudge with it once that was >> dynamite-- imagine chewy fudge that is good for your teeth). >> >> It is a low glycemic sweetener with about 30% fewer calories than sugar, >> it >> is said to be safe for diabetics and other people with blood sugar >> problems >> as it is not metabolized like sugar. Try Googling zylitol and you'll see. >> >> HOWEVER! It cannot be used as the sugar/sweetener in brewing KT. It does >> not have the glucose/fructose chemistry required. Also, daily intake >> above 50 grams (12+ teaspoons) may have a laxative effect (I've never >> seen >> this as I don't eat that much sweet stuff). >> >> --V >> >> >> ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ >> --A.J. Muste >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 >Of course, drinking KT would help a lot, although I would imagine using >something as acidic as KT to irrigate your sinuses would not work. Has >anyone tried gargling with KT? Did it work? > > Yes, I mentioned I have used KT for nasal irrigation. It's very intense, with intensely good-feeling results. For me. I would not recommend that anyone do it who isn't attracted to the idea of their own volition. If you think it sounds " ewww " , it probably is, for you. I've just had a cold and it's good to get the reminder to go do this. I did it last year, had the 1 cold all year, and my sinuses stayed pretty good for months and months. On the subject of healing with KT, I have a cat who probably got little if any colostrum because he was the weakest of a litter born to a starved stray cat who ran off rather than nurse her kittens. He's got bad feline acne and is very vulnerable to ear mites, and then secondary infections that cause scabbing and misery through his ears and face. He is a very happy cat, I might add, but just you look at him and it hurts. Anyway, I have tried any number of things, with some successes, including Western veterinary medicines. Most recently I made up a bit of KT vinegar diluted with water, with some zylitol added, and swabbed all the bad places, including the insides of his ears. The infection in his ears is going away, each day is better after 3 treatments. I plan to keep this up and see how it goes. He's now 4 years old but I refuse to give up on getting him well. You pick him up and he hugs you. --V ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 >Of course, drinking KT would help a lot, although I would imagine using >something as acidic as KT to irrigate your sinuses would not work. Has >anyone tried gargling with KT? Did it work? > > Yes, I mentioned I have used KT for nasal irrigation. It's very intense, with intensely good-feeling results. For me. I would not recommend that anyone do it who isn't attracted to the idea of their own volition. If you think it sounds " ewww " , it probably is, for you. I've just had a cold and it's good to get the reminder to go do this. I did it last year, had the 1 cold all year, and my sinuses stayed pretty good for months and months. On the subject of healing with KT, I have a cat who probably got little if any colostrum because he was the weakest of a litter born to a starved stray cat who ran off rather than nurse her kittens. He's got bad feline acne and is very vulnerable to ear mites, and then secondary infections that cause scabbing and misery through his ears and face. He is a very happy cat, I might add, but just you look at him and it hurts. Anyway, I have tried any number of things, with some successes, including Western veterinary medicines. Most recently I made up a bit of KT vinegar diluted with water, with some zylitol added, and swabbed all the bad places, including the insides of his ears. The infection in his ears is going away, each day is better after 3 treatments. I plan to keep this up and see how it goes. He's now 4 years old but I refuse to give up on getting him well. You pick him up and he hugs you. --V ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 >Of course, drinking KT would help a lot, although I would imagine using >something as acidic as KT to irrigate your sinuses would not work. Has >anyone tried gargling with KT? Did it work? > > Yes, I mentioned I have used KT for nasal irrigation. It's very intense, with intensely good-feeling results. For me. I would not recommend that anyone do it who isn't attracted to the idea of their own volition. If you think it sounds " ewww " , it probably is, for you. I've just had a cold and it's good to get the reminder to go do this. I did it last year, had the 1 cold all year, and my sinuses stayed pretty good for months and months. On the subject of healing with KT, I have a cat who probably got little if any colostrum because he was the weakest of a litter born to a starved stray cat who ran off rather than nurse her kittens. He's got bad feline acne and is very vulnerable to ear mites, and then secondary infections that cause scabbing and misery through his ears and face. He is a very happy cat, I might add, but just you look at him and it hurts. Anyway, I have tried any number of things, with some successes, including Western veterinary medicines. Most recently I made up a bit of KT vinegar diluted with water, with some zylitol added, and swabbed all the bad places, including the insides of his ears. The infection in his ears is going away, each day is better after 3 treatments. I plan to keep this up and see how it goes. He's now 4 years old but I refuse to give up on getting him well. You pick him up and he hugs you. --V ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 Well, I used to think " EWWW " on the subject of nasal irrigation, too; until I got a nasty sinus infection that I could not beat. Now I'm a believer in it. CMR Re: Re: Neti Pot, Diluted KT, and Sinus Infections (OT) > > >>Of course, drinking KT would help a lot, although I would imagine using >>something as acidic as KT to irrigate your sinuses would not work. Has >>anyone tried gargling with KT? Did it work? >> >> > > Yes, I mentioned I have used KT for nasal irrigation. It's very intense, > with intensely good-feeling results. For me. I would not recommend that > anyone do it who isn't attracted to the idea of their own volition. If > you > think it sounds " ewww " , it probably is, for you. I've just had a cold and > it's good to get the reminder to go do this. I did it last year, had the > 1 > cold all year, and my sinuses stayed pretty good for months and months. > > On the subject of healing with KT, I have a cat who probably got little if > any colostrum because he was the weakest of a litter born to a starved > stray cat who ran off rather than nurse her kittens. He's got bad feline > acne and is very vulnerable to ear mites, and then secondary infections > that cause scabbing and misery through his ears and face. He is a very > happy cat, I might add, but just you look at him and it hurts. Anyway, I > have tried any number of things, with some successes, including Western > veterinary medicines. Most recently I made up a bit of KT vinegar diluted > with water, with some zylitol added, and swabbed all the bad places, > including the insides of his ears. The infection in his ears is going > away, each day is better after 3 treatments. I plan to keep this up and > see how it goes. He's now 4 years old but I refuse to give up on getting > him well. You pick him up and he hugs you. > > --V > > > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ > --A.J. Muste > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 Well, I used to think " EWWW " on the subject of nasal irrigation, too; until I got a nasty sinus infection that I could not beat. Now I'm a believer in it. CMR Re: Re: Neti Pot, Diluted KT, and Sinus Infections (OT) > > >>Of course, drinking KT would help a lot, although I would imagine using >>something as acidic as KT to irrigate your sinuses would not work. Has >>anyone tried gargling with KT? Did it work? >> >> > > Yes, I mentioned I have used KT for nasal irrigation. It's very intense, > with intensely good-feeling results. For me. I would not recommend that > anyone do it who isn't attracted to the idea of their own volition. If > you > think it sounds " ewww " , it probably is, for you. I've just had a cold and > it's good to get the reminder to go do this. I did it last year, had the > 1 > cold all year, and my sinuses stayed pretty good for months and months. > > On the subject of healing with KT, I have a cat who probably got little if > any colostrum because he was the weakest of a litter born to a starved > stray cat who ran off rather than nurse her kittens. He's got bad feline > acne and is very vulnerable to ear mites, and then secondary infections > that cause scabbing and misery through his ears and face. He is a very > happy cat, I might add, but just you look at him and it hurts. Anyway, I > have tried any number of things, with some successes, including Western > veterinary medicines. Most recently I made up a bit of KT vinegar diluted > with water, with some zylitol added, and swabbed all the bad places, > including the insides of his ears. The infection in his ears is going > away, each day is better after 3 treatments. I plan to keep this up and > see how it goes. He's now 4 years old but I refuse to give up on getting > him well. You pick him up and he hugs you. > > --V > > > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ > --A.J. Muste > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 Well, I used to think " EWWW " on the subject of nasal irrigation, too; until I got a nasty sinus infection that I could not beat. Now I'm a believer in it. CMR Re: Re: Neti Pot, Diluted KT, and Sinus Infections (OT) > > >>Of course, drinking KT would help a lot, although I would imagine using >>something as acidic as KT to irrigate your sinuses would not work. Has >>anyone tried gargling with KT? Did it work? >> >> > > Yes, I mentioned I have used KT for nasal irrigation. It's very intense, > with intensely good-feeling results. For me. I would not recommend that > anyone do it who isn't attracted to the idea of their own volition. If > you > think it sounds " ewww " , it probably is, for you. I've just had a cold and > it's good to get the reminder to go do this. I did it last year, had the > 1 > cold all year, and my sinuses stayed pretty good for months and months. > > On the subject of healing with KT, I have a cat who probably got little if > any colostrum because he was the weakest of a litter born to a starved > stray cat who ran off rather than nurse her kittens. He's got bad feline > acne and is very vulnerable to ear mites, and then secondary infections > that cause scabbing and misery through his ears and face. He is a very > happy cat, I might add, but just you look at him and it hurts. Anyway, I > have tried any number of things, with some successes, including Western > veterinary medicines. Most recently I made up a bit of KT vinegar diluted > with water, with some zylitol added, and swabbed all the bad places, > including the insides of his ears. The infection in his ears is going > away, each day is better after 3 treatments. I plan to keep this up and > see how it goes. He's now 4 years old but I refuse to give up on getting > him well. You pick him up and he hugs you. > > --V > > > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ > --A.J. Muste > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 >Well, I used to think " EWWW " on the subject of nasal irrigation, too; until >I got a nasty sinus infection that I could not beat. Now I'm a believer in >it. >CMR Well there you go. I need to clarify. I did the KT irrigation last night and it had been so long I had to figure it out all over again. 1) use mature but not vinegar KT 2) dilute the KT 3) I added whole-salt and would add zylitol next time, BUT, zylitol needs to be dissolved completely and carefully, otherwise it is scratchy. --V ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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