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That's weird; it must be fiction. Our 15 year old autistic grandson pointed. Pat K**************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products.(http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

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That's ridiculous to base a diagnosis on one symptom. I think the reason that not pointing is a sign is because it shows there is no joint attention ie: child is not aware/sharing with others. If I had a dollar for every time my pediatrician told me not to worry about my son's headbanging and how it was normal, I could afford to ire a lawyer to sue his butt for malpractice.:L>)

this person told me that there is no way my 17 month old daughter is autistic because she points and autisitc children do not point. that sounded too much like a box if you know what i mean. it just didnt make sense to say ALL autistic children dont point. and as for her head banging i was told it was a behavior problem and i needed to place her in time out for that and when she stands on the chair holding the back and rocking it that is a perfect opportunity to teach her the lesson that it will hurt when she falls.

i just didnt agree with anything she said. other than that there are some sensory issues with my daughter.sara <sarapolimindspring> wrote:

Pointing is rare in autistic kids. It helps determine whether the child is autistic in the first place.

Sara

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That's weird; it must be fiction. Ou

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Pointing is rare in autistic kids. It helps determine whether the child is autistic in the first place.

Sara

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That's weird; it must be fiction. Our 15 year old autistic grandson pointed. Pat K**************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products.(http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

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pointed too.

Elaine

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That's weird; it must be fiction. Our 15 year old autistic grandson pointed. Pat K**************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products.(http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

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this person told me that there is no way my 17 month old daughter is autistic because she points and autisitc children do not point. that sounded too much like a box if you know what i mean. it just didnt make sense to say ALL autistic children dont point. and as for her head banging i was told it was a behavior problem and i needed to place her in time out for that and when she stands on the chair holding the back and rocking it that is a perfect opportunity to teach her the lesson that it will hurt when she falls. i just didnt agree with anything she said. other than that there are some sensory issues with my daughter.sara wrote: Pointing is rare in autistic kids. It helps determine whether the child is autistic in the first place. Sara Re: fiction That's weird; it must be fiction. Our 15 year old autistic grandson pointed. Pat K**************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products.(http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

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Have you considered any pain in her head such as a headache or migraine? Ive seen some kids headbang also to relieve pain. She may be also getting a rise out of your reaction or others in her life. Just some ideas. MirtaniaSent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 12:20 PMTo: AutismBehaviorProblems Subject: Re: fictionthis person told me that there is no way my 17 month old daughter is autistic because she points and autisitc children do not point. that sounded too much like a box if you know what i mean. it just didnt make sense to say ALL autistic children dont point. and as for her head banging i was told it was a behavior problem and i needed to place her in time out for that and when she stands on the chair holding the back and rocking it that is a perfect opportunity to teach her the lesson that it will hurt when she falls. i just didnt agree with anything she said. other than that there are some sensory issues with my daughter.sara <sarapolimindspring> wrote:Pointing is rare in autistic kids. It helps determine whether the child is autistic in the first place. Sara----- Original Message -----From: pkuenstleraolTo: AutismBehaviorProbl[The entire original message is not included]

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There are 3 basic things a psychologist looks for when diagnosing a child with autism:

1) Pointing...Does your child point to an object and try to engage you into looking at it as well?

2) Eye contact...Does your child look at you or make eye contact with you?

3) Babbling/ talking...By 6 months of age, a baby should be babbling frequently. By 18 months a toddler should be speaking several words (in context), and attempting to formulate simple sentences.

Hope this helps.

Sara

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she will point at a book or other object when asked to eye contact is 50/50, she will look up at you but when you try to talk to her she will not look you in the eyes. that is one of our goals at speech, and they are the ones that noticed it really. she stopped babbaling at around 10 mos and became completely silent until she had tubes placed and began babbaling again at around 14 mos or so she is in speech for delay. at 15 mos old or there abouts was tested to have expressive speech of 5-6 month old and receptive speech of 4-5 month old. she is almost 18 mos now and has had just over 2 mos of speech. she mimics words and will repeat words you say to her. she does not say them on her own or when it is appropriate. she does not use language at all to request things, not even sign which she has picked up as well.

instead, she begins to hollar and bang on the cabinets and fridge when she wants something. if she does not feel well she will pinch, bite, pull hair and scream at the top of her lungs because she does not know any way to signal this.sara wrote: There are 3 basic things a psychologist looks for when diagnosing a child with autism: 1) Pointing...Does your child point to an

object and try to engage you into looking at it as well? 2) Eye contact...Does your child look at you or make eye contact with you? 3) Babbling/ talking...By 6 months of age, a baby should be babbling frequently. By 18 months a toddler should be speaking several words (in context), and attempting to formulate simple sentences. Hope this helps. Sara Re: fiction That's weird; it must be fiction. Our 15 year old autistic grandson pointed. Pat K**************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products.(http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.

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Does she have sinus issues or frequent colds. I worked recently with a kiddo who

was sick

all the time (mostly lots of mucus discharge from nose). At that time he was

head banging

(probably to briefly relieve pressure). He was evaluated for alergies and also

by a ear,

throat, nose doc. They found he needed his tonsils removed which they did and he

is

rearly sick and hardly ever head bangs any more.

Also, about the pointing, I think this is a confusing questions for parents as

it relates to an

early warning sign of autism. I learned early on that when I asked a parent with

concerns

or a newly diagnosed child if their child points; they often would say yes due

to not fully

understanding what it involves. They would report witnessing their child

pointing while

" playing " Like when flipping through books. The difference though in their child

was that

they were not pointing as an attempt at joint attention as NT do. So a more

important

question would be does your child point as an attempt to direct your attention

to the

object their attention is on. This is the skill that is often lacking in ASD

kiddos. Just my

thoughts. Don't let the " professionals " convince you that you are not the

expert of your

child. I always say, keep asking until you understand and then ask some more.

Kati Gilyeat, MSW, ABA Therapist

> Pointing is rare in autistic kids.  It helps determine whether the child is

autistic in the

first place.

>  

> Sara

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the lady was flipping through the book asking my child where is the apple, where is the banana, where is the cow, etc and my child would point to the book, never to what specifically was asked for, but just point to the book. She has been congested off And on since birth, so i guess cold be. however, she giggles when she does it like she is enjoying it.kgilyeat06 wrote: Does she have sinus issues or frequent colds. I worked recently with a kiddo who was sick

all the time (mostly lots of mucus discharge from nose). At that time he was head banging (probably to briefly relieve pressure). He was evaluated for alergies and also by a ear, throat, nose doc. They found he needed his tonsils removed which they did and he is rearly sick and hardly ever head bangs any more. Also, about the pointing, I think this is a confusing questions for parents as it relates to an early warning sign of autism. I learned early on that when I asked a parent with concerns or a newly diagnosed child if their child points; they often would say yes due to not fully understanding what it involves. They would report witnessing their child pointing while "playing" Like when flipping through books. The difference though in their child was that they were not pointing as an attempt at joint attention as NT do. So a more important question would be does your child point as an attempt to direct your attention to the

object their attention is on. This is the skill that is often lacking in ASD kiddos. Just my thoughts. Don't let the "professionals" convince you that you are not the expert of your child. I always say, keep asking until you understand and then ask some more.Kati Gilyeat, MSW, ABA Therapist> Pointing is rare in autistic kids. It helps

determine whether the child is autistic in the first place.> > Sara> ----- Original Message -----> To: AutismBehaviorProbl> > [The entire original message is not included]>

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My suggestion would be to contact Easter Seals. Ask them if there is a free county based program for diagnosing children with autism or related disabilities. I think the one in our county is called Child Find. The screening process is excellent. They provide free occupational therapy, speech, physical therapy, and preschool for kids 0-3 years old who are delayed for whatever reason. Once your child turns 3, they are eligible to attend a developmental preschool in your school district.

I also have free educational programs on my www.hiyah.net site, your daughter might enjoy to increase her language comprehension.

Sara

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That's weird; it must be fiction. Our 15 year old autistic grandson pointed. Pat K**************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products.(http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

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I'm kinda late into this discussion. But, my son is diagnosed as

autistic. He however, has language, is somewhat social, and has

pointed since he was a baby. But, he doesn't have eye contact and was

language delayed. Anyways, my point is that autistic kids are all so

different and no two are alike. I'm really finding there are few hard

and fast rules to diagnose autism...even going by the standards.

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It's true that kids with autism don't fit into a specific mold. I have two boys with autism and they are like night and day. It depends on the severity of the affliction.

Sara

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I'm kinda late into this discussion. But, my son is diagnosed as autistic. He however, has language, is somewhat social, and has pointed since he was a baby. But, he doesn't have eye contact and was language delayed. Anyways, my point is that autistic kids are all so different and no two are alike. I'm really finding there are few hard and fast rules to diagnose autism...even going by the standards.