Re: 16 month old possibly has Aspergers

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Hi Sara:

I just asked this question the other day and received a few responses - if you

scroll through the posts, you'll see them. It sounds like eye contact is just an

example of a difficulty a child may have (and maybe most do) but it doesn't

automatically rule out the dx if they meet the other criteria.

Has the doctor at least referred you to an Occupational Therapist, Developmental

Pediatrician or a Neuropysch for further evaluation? If not, I'd request one

ASAP. I'd also ask the doctor about getting an eval done through your state's

Early Childhood Intervention office. I'm not sure if you need a doctor's

referral for that...

Rocking can be a sign of sensory processing difficulties too - some kids with

SPD aren't considered to be " on the spectrum. " That was the first thing we

addressed in my kiddo - I'm now having him evaluated for Asperger syndrome at

age 5 b/c he's still having trouble in school two years later. He smiles, laughs

and makes eye contact too.

We are on a wait list with a Developmental Pediatrician but it's 6-8 months out.

We are in the process of having him evaluated by a psychologist instead b/c

she's supposed to be our local " aspie " expert. It took us about 4 weeks to get

in to see her and she'll need multiple visits to make a dx. The whole process

will take months.

Hope you get the answers you need...

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> Hi, my name is Sara and I have a 16 month old son Colton that possibly has

Aspergers he has almost every single symptom. He has severe motor delays, talks

ok for his age. Has non verbal communication delays. Is very violent with

people. Hand flaps toe walks and rocks constantly. Infact his rocking is so

severe that it is becoming violent and hurts his self. He sat in the playpen and

rockrd against the wall while slamming his head into the wall. And acted like it

didnt phase him at all. When someone outside of his family talks to him and even

with us sometimes he just stares at us like we are retarded when we talk to him.

I have.asked his Dr. about all theae things and she said she would swaer he has

aspergers if it wasnt for the fact that he has great eye contact. My question

now is can someone with aspergers have great eye contact and smile at people?

His dr. said there is no possible way for him to have aspergers because of that.

Please help me.

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Your doctor is mistaken. Get a second opinion.Good luck!tt>  

>> Hi, my name is Sara and I have a 16 month old son Colton that possibly has Aspergers he has almost every single symptom. He has severe motor delays, talks ok for his age. Has non verbal communication delays. Is very violent with people. Hand flaps toe walks and rocks constantly. Infact his rocking is so severe that it is becoming violent and hurts his self. He sat in the playpen and rockrd against the wall while slamming his head into the wall. And acted like it didnt phase him at all. When someone outside of his family talks to him and even with us sometimes he just stares at us like we are retarded when we talk to him. I have.asked his Dr. about all theae things and she said she would swaer he has aspergers if it wasnt for the fact that he has great eye contact. My question now is can someone with aspergers have great eye contact and smile at people? His dr. said there is no possible way for him to have aspergers because of that. Please help me.

>> -- Terri D. Eagen-TorkkoFull-time feminist event planner, freelance editor, 24/7 bonus mom

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Thank you so much for all the replies. I am just very confused because I see that he he is different and he responds to everything in a totally different way then most children. I also have 2 other children and they did not act like this at all. To: autism-aspergers Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 6:39 PM Subject:

Re: 16 month old possibly has Aspergers

Hi Sara:

I just asked this question the other day and received a few responses - if you scroll through the posts, you'll see them. It sounds like eye contact is just an example of a difficulty a child may have (and maybe most do) but it doesn't automatically rule out the dx if they meet the other criteria.

Has the doctor at least referred you to an Occupational Therapist, Developmental Pediatrician or a Neuropysch for further evaluation? If not, I'd request one ASAP. I'd also ask the doctor about getting an eval done through your state's Early Childhood Intervention office. I'm not sure if you need a doctor's referral for that...

Rocking can be a sign of sensory processing difficulties too - some kids with SPD aren't considered to be "on the spectrum." That was the first thing we addressed in my kiddo - I'm now having him evaluated for Asperger syndrome at age 5 b/c he's still having trouble in school two years later. He smiles, laughs and makes eye contact too.

We are on a wait list with a Developmental Pediatrician but it's 6-8 months out. We are in the process of having him evaluated by a psychologist instead b/c she's supposed to be our local "aspie" expert. It took us about 4 weeks to get in to see her and she'll need multiple visits to make a dx. The whole process will take months.

Hope you get the answers you need...

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> Hi, my name is Sara and I have a 16 month old son Colton that possibly has Aspergers he has almost every single symptom. He has severe motor delays, talks ok for his age. Has non verbal communication delays. Is very violent with people. Hand flaps toe walks and rocks constantly. Infact his rocking is so severe that it is becoming violent and hurts his self. He sat in the playpen and rockrd against the wall while slamming his head into the wall. And acted like it didnt phase him at all. When someone outside of his family talks to him and even with us sometimes he just stares at us like we are retarded when we talk to him. I have.asked his Dr. about all theae things and she said she would swaer he has aspergers if it wasnt for the fact that he has great eye contact. My question now is can someone with aspergers have great eye contact and smile at people? His dr. said there is no possible way for him to have aspergers because of that. Please help

me.

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Sara, you know your child best - I'd ask the pediatrician for the referral. Try

calling the doc's office and asking about ECI services. You might be able to

goggle it for your state. Hang in there and know that you can always " vent " in

here - I know I do ;-)

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> > Hi, my name is Sara and I have a 16 month old son Colton that possibly has

Aspergers he has almost every single symptom. He has severe motor delays, talks

ok for his age. Has non verbal communication delays. Is very violent with

people. Hand flaps toe walks and rocks constantly. Infact his rocking is so

severe that it is becoming violent and hurts his self. He sat in the playpen and

rockrd against the wall while slamming his head into the wall. And acted like it

didnt phase him at all. When someone outside of his family talks to him and even

with us sometimes he just stares at us like we are retarded when we talk to him.

I have.asked his Dr. about all theae things and she said she would swaer he has

aspergers if it wasnt for the fact that he has great eye contact. My question

now is can someone with aspergers have great eye contact and smile at people?

His dr. said there is no possible way for him to have aspergers because of that.

Please help me.

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Hello,

My son was not flapping at that age, but also banged his head against the wall, spinned in circles,

was aggressive, innner motor non-stop, and eye contact was sometimes good. At 3 years old he was dx with Sensory Processing

Disorder and we were told by O.T. he was not on the Autism Spectrum. OUr Ped. refused to

refer us to Developmental Ped. or Nueropsych becuase he thought it was too young and borderline...

The public school also refused to test. Then agreed to and lost his file once the Psych said yes,

he has social pragmatic language defecits....at 5 we accepted to wait for a bit to mature....and see "how he did."

AT 6 IT GOT WORSE. Now we have psych eval and a dx of PDD-NOS which is

where your son might fall. Aspergers would be "lighter" than PDD-NOS. NO PDD-NOS

kids look the same. You should get a new doctor who will not only encourage you to persue

early intervention, but also accept your request to have him evaluated. Be strong, persistant and

tell them "I want to have my child evaluated for Autism Spectrum" disorders so I can put my mind at rest.

Just get the evaluation and appointment. Your local school may give you the public health department's

phone number as a start.

Here is a website for help:

http://www.autismweb.com/signs.htm

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 5:49 PMSubject: Re: 16 month old possibly has Aspergers

Sara, you know your child best - I'd ask the pediatrician for the referral. Try calling the doc's office and asking about ECI services. You might be able to goggle it for your state. Hang in there and know that you can always "vent" in here - I know I do ;-)> >> > > > Hi, my name is Sara and I have a 16 month old son Colton that possibly has Aspergers he has almost every single symptom. He has severe motor delays, talks ok for his age. Has non verbal communication delays. Is very violent with people. Hand flaps toe walks and rocks constantly. Infact his rocking is so severe that it is becoming violent and hurts his self. He sat in the playpen and rockrd against the wall while slamming his head into the wall. And acted like it didnt phase him at all. When someone outside of his family talks to him and even with us sometimes he just stares at us like we are retarded when we talk to him. I have.asked his Dr. about all theae things and she said she would swaer he has aspergers if it wasnt for the fact that he has great eye contact. My question now is can someone with aspergers have great eye contact and smile at people? His dr. said there is no

possible way for him to have aspergers because of that. Please help me.> >>

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Well thank you so much. I just feel lost in all this because I feel like his Dr. just isnt listening to me. But I have a strong feeling that she just doesnt know what shes talking about. She said his great eye contact is the only reason she doesnt think he has that and I said well i know women who are pregnant with no symptoms at all does that mean they arent pregnant.... no. Everyone is different and not everyone is going to have the same exact thing to the same degree. We go on mon. to see his ped. I am gonna let her know to that I'm tired of sitting here waiting. Cause every time we go to see her she asks me are things better and I tell her NO they are worse and she says well lets watch it. Well what are we watching? And another question I have is, Can aspergers have an effect on growth. My son is 16 months old weighs 20 pounds

and has weighed that for about 4 months now. his head circumference is steadily dropping. It went from the 14th percentile to the 8th then to the 5th and we go on Mon. to check it again. When he was 12 months he had an MRI done and it came back normal. I'm very confused. To: autism-aspergers Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 8:49 PM Subject: Re: 16 month old possibly has Aspergers

Sara, you know your child best - I'd ask the pediatrician for the referral. Try calling the doc's office and asking about ECI services. You might be able to goggle it for your state. Hang in there and know that you can always "vent" in here - I know I do ;-)

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> > Hi, my name is Sara and I have a 16 month old son Colton that possibly has Aspergers he has almost every single symptom. He has severe motor delays, talks ok for his age. Has non verbal communication delays. Is very violent with people. Hand flaps toe walks and rocks constantly. Infact his rocking is so severe that it is becoming violent and hurts his self. He sat in the playpen and rockrd against the wall while slamming his head into the wall. And acted like it didnt phase him at all. When someone outside of his family talks to him and even with us sometimes he just stares at us like we are retarded when we talk to him. I have.asked his Dr. about all theae things and she said she would swaer he has aspergers if it wasnt for the fact that he has great eye contact. My question now is can someone with aspergers have great eye contact and smile at people? His dr. said there is no possible way for him to have aspergers because of that. Please help

me.

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[Guest guest]

Just about everyone we talked to about our son said "why not just

wait and see?"  He was not diagnosed with ADHD until he was 6

because his teacher saw things in him that reminded her of other

kids with ADHD.  His official diagnosis with AS came when he was 10,

and again it was his teacher who suggested we go and have him

re-evaluated.  In both cases I went to his GP and asked for a

referral to a specialist.  I did not ask if he thought it was

needed.  Most Gps know little if anything about ADHD or AS.  Both

can, at least indirectly, affect growth.  A MRI is usfeul for

checking for ADHD or AS only if the technician knows what they are

looking for.  Very few do.

 

Well thank you so much. I just feel lost in all

this because I feel like his Dr. just isnt listening

to me. But I have a strong feeling that she just

doesnt know what shes talking about. She said his

great eye contact is the only reason she doesnt think

he has that and I said well i know women who are

pregnant with no symptoms at all does that mean they

arent pregnant.... no. Everyone is different and not

everyone is going to have the same exact thing to the

same degree. We go on mon. to see his ped. I am gonna

let her know to that I'm tired of sitting here

waiting. Cause every time we go to see her she asks me

are things better and I tell her NO they are worse and

she says well lets watch it. Well what are we

watching? And another question I have is, Can

aspergers have an effect on growth. My son is 16

months old weighs 20 pounds and has weighed that for

about 4 months now. his head circumference is steadily

dropping. It went from the 14th percentile to the 8th

then to the 5th and we go on Mon. to check it again.

When he was 12 months he had an MRI done and it came

back normal. I'm very confused.

From:

To:

autism-aspergers

Sent:

Thursday, January 12, 2012 8:49 PM

Subject:

Re: 16 month old possibly has

Aspergers

 

Sara, you know your child best - I'd ask

the pediatrician for the referral. Try calling

the doc's office and asking about ECI

services. You might be able to goggle it for

your state. Hang in there and know that you

can always "vent" in here - I know I do ;-)

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> >

> > Hi, my name is Sara and I have a 16

month old son Colton that possibly has

Aspergers he has almost every single symptom.

He has severe motor delays, talks ok for his

age. Has non verbal communication delays. Is

very violent with people. Hand flaps toe walks

and rocks constantly. Infact his rocking is so

severe that it is becoming violent and hurts

his self. He sat in the playpen and rockrd

against the wall while slamming his head into

the wall. And acted like it didnt phase him at

all. When someone outside of his family talks

to him and even with us sometimes he just

stares at us like we are retarded when we talk

to him. I have.asked his Dr. about all theae

things and she said she would swaer he has

aspergers if it wasnt for the fact that he has

great eye contact. My question now is can

someone with aspergers have great eye contact

and smile at people? His dr. said there is no

possible way for him to have aspergers because

of that. Please help me.

> >

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[Guest guest]

Huh I'm not aware of any direct link was those types of issues - I think I read

something about a larger head circumference being related to autism sometimes. I

tried looking for some kind of link to that too b/c my son was always in the

90th percentile for height but 25% and 40% in head and weight but I'm not a

doctor and I don't play one on tv, ha - I could be wrong ;-)

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> > > Hi, my name is Sara and I have a 16 month old son Colton that possibly has

Aspergers he has almost every single symptom. He has severe motor delays, talks

ok for his age. Has non verbal communication delays. Is very violent with

people. Hand flaps toe walks and rocks constantly. Infact his rocking is so

severe that it is becoming violent and hurts his self. He sat in the playpen and

rockrd against the wall while slamming his head into the wall. And acted like it

didnt phase him at all. When someone outside of his family talks to him and even

with us sometimes he just stares at us like we are retarded when we talk to him.

I have.asked his Dr. about all theae things and she said she would swaer he has

aspergers if it wasnt for the fact that he has great eye contact. My question

now is can someone with aspergers have great eye contact and smile at people?

His dr. said there is no possible way for him to have aspergers because of that.

Please help me.

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[Guest guest]

Here is the criteria for Asperger's. It's a number's game. He has to meet the criteria. You can have good eye contact and still have Asperger's. In category A below you have to meet at least 2 of the criteria so as long as he meets at least two of the four then her doesn't have to meet they 'eye-to-eye gaze' criteria. The tricky part is that different things can be interpreted different ways so just because you don't think that he doesn't meet something doesn't necessarily mean that he doesn't. I would definitely take him to see someone who specializes in autism if possible. We went to two psychiatrists and were told that my daughter did not have Asperger's. We took her to a nurse practitioner that specializes in Asperger's and she caught it right away. Some behaviors that I thought were just odd things she did actually turned out to meet some of these criteria.

Good Luck!

DSM IV Asperger's Criteria

A. Qualitative impairment in social interaction, as manifested by at least two of the following:

(1) marked impairment in the use of multiple nonverbal behaviors, such as eye-to-eye gaze, facial expression, body postures, and gestures to regulate social interaction

(2) failure to develop peer relationships appropriate to developmental level

(3) a lack of spontaneous seeking to share enjoyment, interests, or achievements with other people (e.g., by a lack of showing, bringing, or pointing out objects of interest to other people)

(4) lack of social or emotional reciprocity

B. Restricted, repetitive, and stereotyped patterns of behavior, interests, and activities, as manifested by at least one of the following:

(1) encompassing preoccupation with one or more stereotyped and restricted patterns of interest that is abnormal either in intensity or focus

(2) apparently inflexible adherence to specific, nonfunctional routines or rituals

(3) stereotyped and repetitive motor mannerisms (e.g., hand or finger flapping or twisting, or complex whole-body movements)

(4) persistent preoccupation with parts of objects

C. The disturbance causes clinically significant impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.

D. There is no clinically significant general delay in language (e.g., single words used by age 2 years, communicative phrases used by age 3 years).

E. There is no clinically significant delay in cognitive development or in the development of age-appropriate self-help skills, adaptive behavior (other than in social interaction), and curiosity about the environment in childhood.

F. Criteria are not met for another specific pervasive developmental disorder or schizophrenia.

-- 16 month old possibly has Aspergers

Hi, my name is Sara and I have a 16 month old son Colton that possibly has Aspergers he has almost every single symptom. He has severe motor delays, talks ok for his age. Has non verbal communication delays. Is very violent with people. Hand flaps toe walks and rocks constantly. Infact his rocking is so severe that it is becoming violent and hurts his self. He sat in the playpen and rockrd against the wall while slamming his head into the wall. And acted like it didnt phase him at all. When someone outside of his family talks to him and even with us sometimes he just stares at us like we are retarded when we talk to him. I have.asked his Dr. about all theae things and she said she would swaer he has aspergers if it wasnt for the fact that he has great eye contact. My question now is can someone with aspergers have great eye contact and smile at people? His dr. said there is no possible way for him to have aspergers because of that. Please help me.

[Guest guest]

I wanted to comment on the head circumference. There is not a link that I know of with Aspergers or Autism but there is another Pervasive Developmental Disorder called Rett's Disorder which one of the diagnositic criteria is normal head circumference at birth but a deceleration of the head growth between ages 5 and 48 months. You might want to ask the doctor to refer you to a developmental ped in order to discuss your concerns more. You could also talk with your insurance and see what the process is to see a different doctor who specializes with developmental issues. I hope that helps.

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> > > Hi, my name is Sara and I have a 16 month old son Colton that possibly has Aspergers he has almost every single symptom. He has severe motor delays, talks ok for his age. Has non verbal communication delays. Is very violent with people. Hand flaps toe walks and rocks constantly. Infact his rocking is so severe that it is becoming violent and hurts his self. He sat in the playpen and rockrd against the wall while slamming his head into the wall. And acted like it didnt phase him at all. When someone outside of his family talks to him and even with us sometimes he just stares at us like we are retarded when we talk to him. I have.asked his Dr. about all theae things and she said she would swaer he has aspergers if it wasnt for the fact that he has great eye contact. My question now is can someone with aspergers have great eye contact and smile at people? His dr. said there is no possible way for him to have aspergers because of that. Please

help me.

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Well he has at least 2 of A and B. And he C,d and E. So I guess I should mention this to his Dr. I really hope she will refer us to someone this time. To: autism-aspergers Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 11:10 PM Subject: Re: 16 month old possibly has Aspergers

Here is the criteria for Asperger's. It's a number's game. He has to meet the criteria. You can have good eye contact and still have Asperger's. In category A below you have to meet at least 2 of the criteria so as long as he meets at least two of the four then her doesn't have to meet they 'eye-to-eye gaze' criteria. The tricky part is that different things can be interpreted different ways so just because you don't think that he doesn't meet something doesn't necessarily mean that he doesn't. I would definitely take him to see someone who specializes in autism if possible. We went to two psychiatrists and were told that my daughter did not have Asperger's. We took her to a nurse practitioner that specializes in Asperger's and she caught it right away. Some behaviors that I thought were just odd things she did actually turned out to meet some of these criteria.

Good Luck!

DSM IV Asperger's Criteria

A. Qualitative impairment in social interaction, as manifested by at least two of the following:

(1) marked impairment in the use of multiple nonverbal behaviors, such as eye-to-eye gaze, facial expression, body postures, and gestures to regulate social interaction

(2) failure to develop peer relationships appropriate to developmental level

(3) a lack of spontaneous seeking to share enjoyment, interests, or achievements with other people (e.g., by a lack of showing, bringing, or pointing out objects of interest to other people)

(4) lack of social or emotional reciprocity

B. Restricted, repetitive, and stereotyped patterns of behavior, interests, and activities, as manifested by at least one of the following:

(1) encompassing preoccupation with one or more stereotyped and restricted patterns of interest that is abnormal either in intensity or focus

(2) apparently inflexible adherence to specific, nonfunctional routines or rituals

(3) stereotyped and repetitive motor mannerisms (e.g., hand or finger flapping or twisting, or complex whole-body movements)

(4) persistent preoccupation with parts of objects

C. The disturbance causes clinically significant impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.

D. There is no clinically significant general delay in language (e.g., single words used by age 2 years, communicative phrases used by age 3 years).

E. There is no clinically significant delay in cognitive development or in the development of age-appropriate self-help skills, adaptive behavior (other than in social interaction), and curiosity about the environment in childhood.

F. Criteria are not met for another specific pervasive developmental disorder or schizophrenia.

-- 16 month old possibly has Aspergers

Hi, my name is Sara and I have a 16 month old son Colton that possibly has Aspergers he has almost every single symptom. He has severe motor delays, talks ok for his age. Has non verbal communication delays. Is very violent with people. Hand flaps toe walks and rocks constantly. Infact his rocking is so severe that it is becoming violent and hurts his self. He sat in the playpen and rockrd against the wall while slamming his head into the wall. And acted like it didnt phase him at all. When someone outside of his family talks to him and even with us sometimes he just stares at us like we are retarded when we talk to him. I have.asked his Dr. about all theae things and she said she would swaer he has aspergers if it wasnt for the fact that he has great eye contact. My question now is can someone with aspergers have great eye contact and smile at people? His dr. said there is no possible way for him to have aspergers because of that. Please help

me.

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I'll have to talk to someone about that. Because it was saying that boy usually die not long after birth. And its mostly just a girl disease. Because it effects the X chromosone. I have been wondering though maybe his head is just a totally different problem. Not related to his other issues. And it was saying that they start out normal and get worse. He started out bad to begin with. It's all so confusing. To: "autism-aspergers "

<autism-aspergers > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 12:59 AM Subject: Re: Re: 16 month old possibly has Aspergers

I wanted to comment on the head circumference. There is not a link that I know of with Aspergers or Autism but there is another Pervasive Developmental Disorder called Rett's Disorder which one of the diagnositic criteria is normal head circumference at birth but a deceleration of the head growth between ages 5 and 48 months. You might want to ask the doctor to refer you to a developmental ped in order to discuss your concerns more. You could also talk with your insurance and see what the process is to see a different doctor who specializes with developmental issues. I hope that helps.

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> > > Hi, my name is Sara and I have a 16 month old son Colton that possibly has Aspergers he has almost every single symptom. He has severe motor delays, talks ok for his age. Has non verbal communication delays. Is very violent with people. Hand flaps toe walks and rocks constantly. Infact his rocking is so severe that it is becoming violent and hurts his self. He sat in the playpen and rockrd against the wall while slamming his head into the wall. And acted like it didnt phase him at all. When someone outside of his family talks to him and even with us sometimes he just stares at us like we are retarded when we talk to him. I have.asked his Dr. about all theae things and she said she would swaer he has aspergers if it wasnt for the fact that he has great eye contact. My question now is can someone with aspergers have great eye contact and smile at people? His dr. said there is no possible way for him to have aspergers because of that. Please

help me.

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Well I was reading up on the retts syndrome and I really dont think that is the

issue with colton that is very severe and there have only been 11 boys known

with the disorder that havent died from it. It is almost exclusively a girl

disorder. I am starting to think he might either just be small or its just a

totally different issue in its self.

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>I wanted to comment on the head circumference. There is not a link that I know

of with Aspergers or Autism but there is another Pervasive Developmental

Disorder called Rett's Disorder which one of the diagnositic criteria is normal

head circumference at birth but a deceleration of the head growth between ages 5

and 48 months. You might want to ask the doctor to refer you to a developmental

ped in order to discuss your concerns more. You could also talk with your

insurance and see what the process is to see a different doctor who specializes

with developmental issues. I hope that helps.

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>> > > Hi, my name is Sara and I have a 16 month old son Colton that possibly

has Aspergers he has almost every single symptom. He has severe motor delays,

talks ok for his age. Has non verbal communication delays. Is very violent with

people. Hand flaps toe walks and rocks constantly. Infact his rocking is so

severe that it is becoming violent and hurts his self. He sat in the playpen and

rockrd against the wall while slamming his head into the wall. And acted like it

didnt phase him at all. When someone outside of his family talks to him and even

with us sometimes he just stares at us like we are retarded when we talk to him.

I have.asked his Dr. about all theae things and she said she would swaer he has

aspergers if it wasnt for the fact that he has great eye contact. My question

now is can someone with aspergers have great eye contact and smile at people?

His dr. said there is no possible way for him to have aspergers because of that.

Please help me.

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[Guest guest]

Don’t walk, run to another doctor. Get one who is knowledgeable

in the ASD field if you can. Do it for your child’s well being.

P.S. I like your son's name, my 23 month old son is named Colt.

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 10:43 AM Subject: 16 month old possibly has Aspergers

Hi, my name is Sara and I have a 16 month old son Colton that possibly has Aspergers he has almost every single symptom. He has severe motor delays, talks ok for his age. Has non verbal communication delays. Is very violent with people. Hand flaps toe walks and rocks constantly. Infact his rocking is so severe that it is becoming violent and hurts his self. He sat in the playpen and rockrd against the wall while slamming his head into the wall. And acted like it didnt phase him at all. When someone outside of his family talks to him and even with us sometimes he just stares at us like we are retarded when we talk to him. I have.asked his Dr. about all theae things and she said she would swaer he has aspergers if it wasnt for the fact that he has great eye contact. My question now is can someone with aspergers have great eye contact and smile at people? His dr. said there is no possible way for him to have aspergers because of that. Please help me.

[Guest guest]

Lol thank you . I also thought about that name but was kinda weird saying

it... Like it was missing something. Im a huge Colts fan. Im due Jan. 29th and

this one is Peyton.

Its just very hard to find a decent Dr. around my area because we are on

medicaid and I tried to switch his hmo the other day so that I could see this

one dr. that I like and they told me I had to wait til May for open enrollment.

I was furious! I hung up on him and just cried. I feel like no matter what I

do... Im stuck. Im tired of no one listening. I have been trying to get him help

since he was 3 months old. Because he was delayed then. He didnt even learn how

to roll over til he was 7 1/2 months old. That is severely delayed. I know

babies that are that age and trying to walk. And he was just learning to roll.

He was completely stationary til he was about 10 1/2 months old. When he rolled

it would only be 1 time it wasnt like he was trying to roll to where he wanted

to go like other babies. And his dr. tells me that, that is not that bad of a

delay. But it seems pretty bad to me. He just learned to walk the other day.

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>Don’t walk, run to another doctor. Get one who is knowledgeable

>in the ASD field if you can. Do it for your child’s well being. 

>

> 

>

>P.S. I like your son's name, my 23 month old son is named Colt.

> 

>

>

>

>________________________________

>

>To: autism-aspergers

>Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 10:43 AM

>Subject: 16 month old possibly has Aspergers

>

>

> 

>

>Hi, my name is Sara and I have a 16 month old son Colton that possibly has

Aspergers he has almost every single symptom. He has severe motor delays, talks

ok for his age. Has non verbal communication delays. Is very violent with

people. Hand flaps toe walks and rocks constantly. Infact his rocking is so

severe that it is becoming violent and hurts his self. He sat in the playpen and

rockrd against the wall while slamming his head into the wall. And acted like it

didnt phase him at all. When someone outside of his family talks to him and even

with us sometimes he just stares at us like we are retarded when we talk to him.

I have.asked his Dr. about all theae things and she said she would swaer he has

aspergers if it wasnt for the fact that he has great eye contact. My question

now is can someone with aspergers have great eye contact and smile at people?

His dr. said there is no possible way for him to have aspergers because of that.

Please help me.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Your local school district can begin giving him services and therapy if they aren't already. If you aren't yet receiving services, call your school district's early intervention department. Aspergers is so hard to diagnose before the middle to late elementary school years, that I wouldn't be surprised if this drags out longer. I remember that feeling of desperation for someone, ANYONE to validate my concerns, and tell me what the F & *% was wrong with my baby. It took me three years.. three long years. The system is terribly broken for this type of thing, and we are here for you in the mean time. To: autism-aspergers Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 3:12 PM Subject: Re: 16 month old possibly has Aspergers

Lol thank you . I also thought about that name but was kinda weird saying it... Like it was missing something. Im a huge Colts fan. Im due Jan. 29th and this one is Peyton.

Its just very hard to find a decent Dr. around my area because we are on medicaid and I tried to switch his hmo the other day so that I could see this one dr. that I like and they told me I had to wait til May for open enrollment. I was furious! I hung up on him and just cried. I feel like no matter what I do... Im stuck. Im tired of no one listening. I have been trying to get him help since he was 3 months old. Because he was delayed then. He didnt even learn how to roll over til he was 7 1/2 months old. That is severely delayed. I know babies that are that age and trying to walk. And he was just learning to roll. He was completely stationary til he was about 10 1/2 months old. When he rolled it would only be 1 time it wasnt like he was trying to roll to where he wanted to go like other babies. And his dr. tells me that, that is not that bad of a delay. But it seems pretty bad to me. He just learned to walk the other day.

------------------------------

>Don’t walk, run to another doctor. Get one who is knowledgeable

>in the ASD field if you can. Do it for your child’s well being.

>

>

>

>P.S. I like your son's name, my 23 month old son is named Colt.

>

>

>

>

>________________________________

>

>To: autism-aspergers

>Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 10:43 AM

>Subject: 16 month old possibly has Aspergers

>

>

>

>

>Hi, my name is Sara and I have a 16 month old son Colton that possibly has Aspergers he has almost every single symptom. He has severe motor delays, talks ok for his age. Has non verbal communication delays. Is very violent with people. Hand flaps toe walks and rocks constantly. Infact his rocking is so severe that it is becoming violent and hurts his self. He sat in the playpen and rockrd against the wall while slamming his head into the wall. And acted like it didnt phase him at all. When someone outside of his family talks to him and even with us sometimes he just stares at us like we are retarded when we talk to him. I have.asked his Dr. about all theae things and she said she would swaer he has aspergers if it wasnt for the fact that he has great eye contact. My question now is can someone with aspergers have great eye contact and smile at people? His dr. said there is no possible way for him to have aspergers because of that. Please help me.

>

>

[Guest guest]

sara, does your plan have a developmental pediatrician listed? there are long

waits to get in to see them (6-8 months for ours) but I'd call one that is

listed thru medicaid and see what their process entails.

>

> >Don’t walk, run to another doctor. Get one who is knowledgeable

> >in the ASD field if you can. Do it for your child’s well being. 

> >

> > 

> >

> >P.S. I like your son's name, my 23 month old son is named Colt.

> > 

> >

> >

> >

> >________________________________

> >

> >To: autism-aspergers

> >Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 10:43 AM

> >Subject: 16 month old possibly has Aspergers

> >

> >

> > 

> >

> >Hi, my name is Sara and I have a 16 month old son Colton that possibly has

Aspergers he has almost every single symptom. He has severe motor delays, talks

ok for his age. Has non verbal communication delays. Is very violent with

people. Hand flaps toe walks and rocks constantly. Infact his rocking is so

severe that it is becoming violent and hurts his self. He sat in the playpen and

rockrd against the wall while slamming his head into the wall. And acted like it

didnt phase him at all. When someone outside of his family talks to him and even

with us sometimes he just stares at us like we are retarded when we talk to him.

I have.asked his Dr. about all theae things and she said she would swaer he has

aspergers if it wasnt for the fact that he has great eye contact. My question

now is can someone with aspergers have great eye contact and smile at people?

His dr. said there is no possible way for him to have aspergers because of that.

Please help me.

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Watch out for " instant diagnosis " of any " mental " problem. The DSM is

more to do with insurance than real diagnosis, and has little to do with

actual therapies, and more to do with the doctor getting paid for his time.

Remember that ADD to full Autism is a continuum, with the dividing line

being actual brain damage (from varying causes ranging from toxic

minerals such as mercury and aluminum to physical damage while in utero.

For a free article on " Integrated 4 Part Therapy for autism " go to

http://drbate.com/content.integrated.shtml

To do professional diagnosis testing at home (free) go to

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http://drbate.com/content/alternateTherapies.shtml

For a lot more info on an inexpensive " at home " therapy that is perfect for an

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--

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[Guest guest]

In Arizona you have to be 3 years old to get services but they will start testing at 2 and a half. The state offers early intervention prior to age 3. To: "autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 2:30 PM Subject: Re: 16 month old possibly has Aspergers

Your local school district can begin giving him services and therapy if they aren't already. If you aren't yet receiving services, call your school district's early intervention department. Aspergers is so hard to diagnose before the middle to late elementary school years, that I wouldn't be surprised if this drags out longer. I remember that feeling of desperation for someone, ANYONE to validate my concerns, and tell me what the F & *% was wrong with my baby. It took me three years.. three long years. The system is terribly broken for this type of thing, and we are here for you in the mean time.

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 3:12 PM Subject: Re: 16 month old possibly has Aspergers

Lol thank you . I also thought about that name but was kinda weird saying it... Like it was missing something. Im a huge Colts fan. Im due Jan. 29th and this one is Peyton.

Its just very hard to find a decent Dr. around my area because we are on medicaid and I tried to switch his hmo the other day so that I could see this one dr. that I like and they told me I had to wait til May for open enrollment. I was furious! I hung up on him and just cried. I feel like no matter what I do... Im stuck. Im tired of no one listening. I have been trying to get him help since he was 3 months old. Because he was delayed then. He didnt even learn how to roll over til he was 7 1/2 months old. That is severely delayed. I know babies that are that age and trying to walk. And he was just learning to roll. He was completely stationary til he was about 10 1/2 months old. When he rolled it would only be 1 time it wasnt like he was trying to roll to where he wanted to go like other babies. And his dr. tells me that, that is not that bad of a delay. But it seems pretty bad to me. He just learned to walk the other day.

------------------------------

>Don’t walk, run to another doctor. Get one who is knowledgeable

>in the ASD field if you can. Do it for your child’s well being.

>

>

>

>P.S. I like your son's name, my 23 month old son is named Colt.

>

>

>

>

>________________________________

>

>To: autism-aspergers

>Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 10:43 AM

>Subject: 16 month old possibly has Aspergers

>

>

>

>

>Hi, my name is Sara and I have a 16 month old son Colton that possibly has Aspergers he has almost every single symptom. He has severe motor delays, talks ok for his age. Has non verbal communication delays. Is very violent with people. Hand flaps toe walks and rocks constantly. Infact his rocking is so severe that it is becoming violent and hurts his self. He sat in the playpen and rockrd against the wall while slamming his head into the wall. And acted like it didnt phase him at all. When someone outside of his family talks to him and even with us sometimes he just stares at us like we are retarded when we talk to him. I have.asked his Dr. about all theae things and she said she would swaer he has aspergers if it wasnt for the fact that he has great eye contact. My question now is can someone with aspergers have great eye contact and smile at people? His dr. said there is no possible way for him to have aspergers because of that. Please help me.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I meant early intervention. I probably wasn't very clear. I'm not very good at speaking through text.

To: "autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers > Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 10:24 PMSubject: Re: 16 month old possibly has Aspergers

In Arizona you have to be 3 years old to get services but they will start testing at 2 and a half. The state offers early intervention prior to age 3.

To: "autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 2:30 PMSubject: Re: 16 month old possibly has Aspergers

Your local school district can begin giving him services and therapy if they aren't already. If you aren't yet receiving services, call your school district's early intervention department. Aspergers is so hard to diagnose before the middle to late elementary school years, that I wouldn't be surprised if this drags out longer. I remember that feeling of desperation for someone, ANYONE to validate my concerns, and tell me what the F & *% was wrong with my baby. It took me three years.. three long years. The system is terribly broken for this type of thing, and we are here for you in the mean time.

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 3:12 PMSubject: Re: 16 month old possibly has Aspergers

Lol thank you . I also thought about that name but was kinda weird saying it... Like it was missing something. Im a huge Colts fan. Im due Jan. 29th and this one is Peyton. Its just very hard to find a decent Dr. around my area because we are on medicaid and I tried to switch his hmo the other day so that I could see this one dr. that I like and they told me I had to wait til May for open enrollment. I was furious! I hung up on him and just cried. I feel like no matter what I do... Im stuck. Im tired of no one listening. I have been trying to get him help since he was 3 months old. Because he was delayed then. He didnt even learn how to roll over til he was 7 1/2 months old. That is severely delayed. I know babies that are that age and trying to walk. And he was just learning to roll. He was completely stationary til he was about 10 1/2 months old. When he rolled it would only be 1 time it wasnt like he was trying to roll to where

he wanted to go like other babies. And his dr. tells me that, that is not that bad of a delay. But it seems pretty bad to me. He just learned to walk the other day. ------------------------------>Don’t walk, run to another doctor. Get one who is knowledgeable>in the ASD field if you can. Do it for your child’s well being. >> >>P.S. I like your son's name, my 23 month old son is named Colt.> >>>>________________________________> >To: autism-aspergers

>Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 10:43 AM>Subject: 16 month old possibly has Aspergers> >> >>Hi, my name is Sara and I have a 16 month old son Colton that possibly has Aspergers he has almost every single symptom. He has severe motor delays, talks ok for his age. Has non verbal communication delays. Is very violent with people. Hand flaps toe walks and rocks constantly. Infact his rocking is so severe that it is becoming violent and hurts his self. He sat in the playpen and rockrd against the wall while slamming his head into the wall. And acted like it didnt phase him at all. When someone outside of his family talks to him and even with us sometimes he just stares at us like we are retarded when we talk to him. I have.asked his Dr. about all theae things and she said she would swaer he has aspergers if it wasnt for the fact that he has great eye contact. My question now is can

someone with aspergers have great eye contact and smile at people? His dr. said there is no possible way for him to have aspergers because of that. Please help me.>>